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2013-05-16 01:20:02 PM
15 votes:

xanadian: Isn't Pope Francis still living in that apartment or whatever the hell it's called?  Or did he finally move into the papal digs?


Pope Francis is staying in the communal residence, with the rest of the staff. This is his apartment:
msnbcmedia.msn.com

And this is his personal office:
news.bbcimg.co.uk

He'll still use the grandiose Papal residence for meeting dignitaries, but he said he'd much rather live with the people he serves, eat in the cafeteria and be able to cook for himself in the kitchen.

/looks like he *is* practicing what he preaches.
2013-05-16 01:24:14 PM
7 votes:

PsyLord: I hope he didn't piss off too many people.  Better go check on the armor plating of his pope-mobile.


The current Pope doesn't use the pope mobile.

It appears that many of the people here blame the current Pope for the past Pope's failures

/not religious
2013-05-16 01:23:23 PM
6 votes:
Seriously, I'm not a Catholic, but I'm quickly becoming a huge Pope Francis fan. If he doesn't get himself killed I think he might to a whole lot of good in the world.

/How did he become pope?
2013-05-16 01:21:20 PM
6 votes:
To be fair he has been renouncing the trappings of wealth over and over since he's been elected....
2013-05-16 01:21:05 PM
6 votes:
Here's the BBC article about his living quarters: "Pope Francis shuns grand apartment for two rooms"
2013-05-16 01:12:53 PM
6 votes:
I'm having a real hard time getting angry about this sentiment.  Methinks he was talking to the Catholic leadership as much as he was talking to the leaders of the global financial system.
2013-05-16 01:36:20 PM
5 votes:

degenerate-afro: PsyLord: I hope he didn't piss off too many people.  Better go check on the armor plating of his pope-mobile.

The current Pope doesn't use the pope mobile.

It appears that many of the people here blame the current Pope for the past Pope's failures

/not religious


Some people around here are going to hate on him no matter what he says or does. Kind of like a reverse tea party/obama thing.
2013-05-16 01:35:57 PM
5 votes:

johnny_vegas: phenn: Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.

priests don't take vows of poverty...that is probably why you didn't see it.

/now chastity.......


As a former altar boy, I can assure you the vow of chastity is a load of crap.

/Ducks and runs

Snark aside, I really like Francis version 1.0. As a non-Christian, I can respect that the guy walks the walk as best he can. I don't blame the current pope for having all the gold stuff, land, and art from the Renaissance as long as he is promoting it for public use (like museums and digitizing archives - both of which are currently happening). The fact that the church is treating the stuff as an insight into history rather than as a necessity for day to day operations speaks volumes. Personally, I hope the current Pontiff puts in 30-40 years on the throne because the church NEEDS it.
2013-05-16 01:30:18 PM
5 votes:
So many people either trolling, or unaware of what Francis has been upto.

I'm a huge critic of anyone who believes in religion, especially the organized kind. But Francis is at least attempting to do something different, including giving away his money, doing away with the extravagence of the Papal quarters, and FTA it *seems* like he was ranting at the church as well as the proverbial moneylenders.

Still not going to condone the Catholic Church or their actions (or inactions) but at least this guy is trying to do something different.
2013-05-16 01:20:25 PM
5 votes:
Sort of reminds me of liberal politicians and hollywood stars.
2013-05-16 01:09:27 PM
5 votes:
Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.
2013-05-16 02:17:30 PM
3 votes:

Capo Del Bandito: OH WAIT! He's been dishing out money, shunning the traditional crap so far and calling out the church.


None of those are anything more than gestures. Though I'm sure he'll be renowned throughout history for "calling out" things.

Capo Del Bandito: As with physical structural changes, you don't just knock down the wall and start building in whatever order.


"Man, you don't go actually changing things! What's wrong with you?"

This is theater. Theater that for whatever reason people love to eat up. More power to you I guess if you're into WWE: The Pope, but this congratulatory attitude people have about him is completely unwarranted by any actual accomplishments.
2013-05-16 01:45:55 PM
3 votes:
It's been said before, but priests don't have a vow of poverty, neither does the Pope.  Religious orders tend to, but it doesn't mean what you think it means.  A vow of poverty is a vow to not 'own' anything significant, but rather to live at the charity of others through the community you are a part of.  A Jesuit with a vow of poverty doesn't own his car, he uses a car owned by the Jesuits.  A Jesuit with a vow of poverty doesn't own property, he lives on property owned by the Jesuits.  etc. etc.  Even clothes and stuff tend to be provided by the order, rather than something you save for and own.  Same with retirement etc.

Second, for those of you who can't get over the shoes thing, seriously, if you can't behave like an adult in conversation, perhaps you shouldn't take part in it.  The ONLY friggen difference between the shoes Benedict wore, and the shoes Francis wears  is the color.  Red dyed leather is no more expensive than brown dyed leather, and they all come from a cobbler at the Vatican whose job is to make shoes for people at the Vatican.  You could argue it fits in the whole eliminating a culture of money thing because it is supporting a local trades person practicing the family art, and eliminating any branding or corporate culture associated with the clothing.
2013-05-16 01:44:31 PM
3 votes:
Oh bullshiate subby.

The Catholic Church isn't out buying art work and gold plated Mercedes and hasn't for ages. Stop blaming the Pope for things he had nothing to do with.

At least he is actively practicing what he preaches by continuing to live in a small apartment instead of the Vatican apartments reserved for the whoever is the Pope.

And no I'm not a Catholic - just a practicing agnostic who is sick of Farkers' religious bigotry.
2013-05-16 01:41:31 PM
3 votes:

xanadian: Isn't Pope Francis still living in that apartment or whatever the hell it's called?  Or did he finally move into the papal digs?


No, he still is living like an average guy. Subby is just an uneducated moron troll atheist, like any other.
2013-05-16 01:29:07 PM
3 votes:
Subby may be thinking of the last Pope.
2013-05-16 01:22:05 PM
3 votes:

KatjaMouse: I thought he rejected the fancy shoes and some of the more formal vestments.


And he got rid of the gold throne.
2013-05-16 01:20:35 PM
3 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: FTA: blasting the "cult of money" that he says is tyrannizing the poor and turning humans into expendable consumer goods.

It's different when the catholic church does it, because they're selling seats in heaven.

He can talk about crap like this all he wants, but as long as the catholic church is the most opulent and decadent institution on earth it's just hypocrisy.


Was the a joke? Or have you never heard of Dubai? Or just about any corporation? They are all may times more opulent then the church.
2013-05-16 01:13:39 PM
3 votes:
FTA: blasting the "cult of money" that he says is tyrannizing the poor and turning humans into expendable consumer goods.

It's different when the catholic church does it, because they're selling seats in heaven.

He can talk about crap like this all he wants, but as long as the catholic church is the most opulent and decadent institution on earth it's just hypocrisy.
2013-05-16 01:11:15 PM
3 votes:
The speech was good but I guess since it's coming from someone people on Fark don't like we should just dismiss it.
2013-05-16 04:02:30 PM
2 votes:
Subby, the pope doesn't actually own those precious paitings or the golden toilet anymore than Obama owns the whitehouse or air force one. And its still okay for Obama to talk about economic disparity even though he's temporarily in nice diggs that go with the office.
2013-05-16 02:08:12 PM
2 votes:

Speef: I will believe that he's not an evil hypocrite when he auctions off his gold-plated nation-state that was built from the proceeds of centuries of fleecing and oppressing the poor, and uses the proceeds to help the poor.

Building more churches to "help" by improving revenues does not count.


Oh good! More ignorance to blast:

He can't just give away the historic relics and the like. Even IF they were his to sell off, I don't know who would buy it, it'd be better in a museum most of it I'd imagine.

But hey, you can completely ignore the fact he gives away his money pretty damn freely, and doesn't do the indulgence bit as far as can be seen.
2013-05-16 02:05:05 PM
2 votes:

Cagey B: This Pope is definitely a master of the symbolic gesture. No doubt about it. Let me know when anything remotely resembling a structural change in the Catholic Church occurs.


Oh yeah. He definitely seems to not be following up on what he's been pr-OH WAIT! He's been dishing out money, shunning the traditional crap so far and calling out the church.

Yeah he's definitely not trying to change anything.

As with physical structural changes, you don't just knock down the wall and start building in whatever order.

Damn normal people and their inability to grasp the larger scale.
2013-05-16 01:55:42 PM
2 votes:
The One True TheDavid

The point of that passage isn't that money is inherently evil, and that all followers must do what he instructed that one guy to do.  The point is that following all the rules (which if you actually posted the whole story you'd be able to see) isn't enough.  The point is that being a follower of Christ means following God's call for you and not being so attached to anything that you can't sacrifice it in service of God.  Christ does point out that money is a tough one to let go of, but doesn't say you have to be poor.

There are other instances of the wealthy being faithful followers and using their wealth in service (ex. Joseph of Aramathea (sp?), a wealthy follower who provided the tomb), or wealth being used to honor God being okay (the poor woman spending 300 days wages on expensive oil to anoint Christ's feet).
2013-05-16 01:51:04 PM
2 votes:
Maybe you should try doing some basic research into your subject before you start shooting your mouth off about him, mmkay?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis
2013-05-16 01:45:07 PM
2 votes:

MrSteve007: Here's the BBC article about his living quarters: "Pope Francis shuns grand apartment for two rooms"


You can't expect liberals to know how to read. Anything that doesn't fit their personal bigotry is simply rejected as impossible.
2013-05-16 01:29:10 PM
2 votes:

johnny_vegas: phenn: Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.

priests don't take vows of poverty...that is probably why you didn't see it.

/now chastity.......


Yep, the overall Catholic church has no vow of poverty - however the sect that Pope Francis is a Jesuit, which does vow poverty and service.
2013-05-16 01:29:05 PM
2 votes:

MrSteve007: xanadian: Isn't Pope Francis still living in that apartment or whatever the hell it's called?  Or did he finally move into the papal digs?

Pope Francis is staying in the communal residence, with the rest of the staff. This is his apartment:
[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x401]

And this is his personal office:
[news.bbcimg.co.uk image 464x261]

He'll still use the grandiose Papal residence for meeting dignitaries, but he said he'd much rather live with the people he serves, eat in the cafeteria and be able to cook for himself in the kitchen.

/looks like he *is* practicing what he preaches.


I'd have to agree with you, he's been going against the grain on a lot of things since being elected and I love it cause he's pissing off traditionalist Catholics in the church...
2013-05-16 01:22:05 PM
2 votes:

phenn: Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.


priests don't take vows of poverty...that is probably why you didn't see it.

/now chastity.......
2013-05-16 01:21:21 PM
2 votes:
Awesome.

his message needs to fall on every ear.

If you're religious then you know that's not your money in the first place, it's Gods money & everything you achieve is through his grace.
2013-05-16 01:16:40 PM
2 votes:
I thought he rejected the fancy shoes and some of the more formal vestments.
2013-05-16 01:13:44 PM
2 votes:
This coming from one the wealthiest organizations on the planet.  Really...

/practice what you preach
2013-05-16 12:20:54 PM
2 votes:
Isn't Pope Francis still living in that apartment or whatever the hell it's called?  Or did he finally move into the papal digs?
2013-05-16 05:46:44 PM
1 votes:

degenerate-afro: PsyLord: I hope he didn't piss off too many people.  Better go check on the armor plating of his pope-mobile.

The current Pope doesn't use the pope mobile.

It appears that many of the people here blame the current Pope for the past Pope's failures

/not religious


THIS
2013-05-16 04:57:38 PM
1 votes:

mjones73: MrSteve007: xanadian: Isn't Pope Francis still living in that apartment or whatever the hell it's called?  Or did he finally move into the papal digs?

Pope Francis is staying in the communal residence, with the rest of the staff. This is his apartment:
[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x401]

And this is his personal office:
[news.bbcimg.co.uk image 464x261]

He'll still use the grandiose Papal residence for meeting dignitaries, but he said he'd much rather live with the people he serves, eat in the cafeteria and be able to cook for himself in the kitchen.

/looks like he *is* practicing what he preaches.

I'd have to agree with you, he's been going against the grain on a lot of things since being elected and I love it cause he's pissing off traditionalist Catholics in the church...


Speaking as an actual traditional Catholic, that is completely false. We like the guy, too. He's orthodox in faith and practice and merciful to those who are in need of it. That's what traditional Catholicism IS.
2013-05-16 04:05:40 PM
1 votes:
Does anyone else see the possibility that the old pope, Ratzenhammer, might have stood down so's he could put someone like the new pope, Senor Salt-of-the-earth, up as a face? He moves back into the papal shindigs and starts the holy wars. A pretty neat set-up, as Pope Frannie will take the heat, a variant on Cheney's move to power. And a good reason that Francis ain't using the grand ballroom (Ya think pedo is a lower-caste activity?), to direct the papal missives.

/conspiracy, I tells ya!

CSB: My ex Ma-in-law grew up in the Salvation Army, where being overtly rich is a sin. They didn't tithe, they kept the tithe and gave everything else to the church. She became a hospice nurse, then retired to the ocean. When time came to get her in assisted living, we cleared out the house and put it up for sale. Her bedroom was spartan, a single bed and end table, a chest of drawers, and a table with prayer things. Nothing else, the other two bedrooms were storage spaces for craft stuff. Noone held her to it, it was the way she preferred. /end CSB

/Maybe Pope Fran, being Franciscan (I wonder how he picked his name?), liked that kind of thing.
2013-05-16 02:17:37 PM
1 votes:

Gonz: hobberwickey: Seriously, I'm not a Catholic, but I'm quickly becoming a huge Pope Francis fan. If he doesn't get himself killed I think he might to a whole lot of good in the world.

/How did he become pope?

Yeah, I'm another non-Catholic who's on the Frankie bandwagon. Part of me wonders if the College of Cardinals collectively woke up a day or two after the conclave and said "Holy shiat! We just elected a Jesuit who's apparently serious about being a Jesuit! Can... can we have a do-over?"

The guy's not going to fix everything that's wrong with the church. He's only one man, and he's only got one lifetime. But he has the potential to do a world of good.


Actually according to the Archbishop of Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, they elected him because of supernatural signs experienced during the conclave.

Personally, I don't trust the guy.  And the more I hear, the less I trust him, because he is making himself out to be exactly what I think a Pope should be.

"We got us a saying where I'm from..."
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2013-05-16 02:16:48 PM
1 votes:

Capo Del Bandito: I've got 50 down with a guy at work that Franky has an 'accident' or 'sudden case of the dying' before the year is out.

I hope he donates to the poor what was supposed to be Vatican bonuses again. That'll almost synch it.


No one will kill him off. It's all just marketing. A rebranding of the church to make it popular again.
2013-05-16 02:11:26 PM
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: Oh bullshiate subby.

The Catholic Church isn't out buying art work and gold plated Mercedes and hasn't for ages. Stop blaming the Pope for things he had nothing to do with.

At least he is actively practicing what he preaches by continuing to live in a small apartment instead of the Vatican apartments reserved for the whoever is the Pope.

And no I'm not a Catholic - just a practicing agnostic who is sick of Farkers' religious bigotry.


I'm not going to say that there isn't a strong anti-religious streak on Fark; for a lot of atheists, this is one of the few places they can vent, as often they are surrounded by family or coworkers or bosses that they just can't talk about stuff like that in front of because so many people take it so personally.

You have to admit that a powerful leader such as the pope telling the people of Africa that condoms cause AIDS does real and true harm to people. Then we have the child sex scandals.

It's enough that people begin to question the "net good" that the Catholic church does in feeding the hungry, etc, as most Atheists do not believe that "saving souls" is a tick in the positive.,
2013-05-16 02:10:37 PM
1 votes:
douchebag/hater:And no I'm not a Catholic - just a practicing agnostic who is sick of Farkers' religious bigotry.

How the heck are you a practicing agnostic?  What do you practice?  Shrugging?
2013-05-16 02:07:34 PM
1 votes:

foxy_canuck: It's been said before, but priests don't have a vow of poverty, neither does the Pope.  Religious orders tend to, but it doesn't mean what you think it means.  A vow of poverty is a vow to not 'own' anything significant, but rather to live at the charity of others through the community you are a part of.  A Jesuit with a vow of poverty doesn't own his car, he uses a car owned by the Jesuits.  A Jesuit with a vow of poverty doesn't own property, he lives on property owned by the Jesuits.  etc. etc.  Even clothes and stuff tend to be provided by the order, rather than something you save for and own.  Same with retirement etc.

Second, for those of you who can't get over the shoes thing, seriously, if you can't behave like an adult in conversation, perhaps you shouldn't take part in it.  The ONLY friggen difference between the shoes Benedict wore, and the shoes Francis wears  is the color.  Red dyed leather is no more expensive than brown dyed leather, and they all come from a cobbler at the Vatican whose job is to make shoes for people at the Vatican.  You could argue it fits in the whole eliminating a culture of money thing because it is supporting a local trades person practicing the family art, and eliminating any branding or corporate culture associated with the clothing.


Seems to me the pope is doing just that. I don't think he owns much of anything. Everything he has is basically on loan from the vatican. Hes even turned down a lot of the fancier stuff. If he got excommunicated from the church tomorrow he would basically be a homeless person.
2013-05-16 02:05:05 PM
1 votes:
I will believe that he's not an evil hypocrite when he auctions off his gold-plated nation-state that was built from the proceeds of centuries of fleecing and oppressing the poor, and uses the proceeds to help the poor.

Building more churches to "help" by improving revenues does not count.
2013-05-16 02:05:04 PM
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: Oh bullshiate subby.

The Catholic Church isn't out buying art work and gold plated Mercedes and hasn't for ages. Stop blaming the Pope for things he had nothing to do with.

At least he is actively practicing what he preaches by continuing to live in a small apartment instead of the Vatican apartments reserved for the whoever is the Pope.

And no I'm not a Catholic - just a practicing agnostic who is sick of Farkers' religious bigotry.


Came here to say this. There's no love lost between me and organized religions period, but within the context of what a "good Catholic" ought to be according to their own doctrine, this guy seems like the genuine article. Too bad for them that he was too humble to accept the papacy the first time round.
2013-05-16 01:59:16 PM
1 votes:

Igor Jakovsky: Some people around here are going to hate on him no matter what he says or does. Kind of like a reverse tea party/obama thing.


Look at it this way:

EA is in the process of finding a new CEO. Are you going to run right out and buy SimCity as soon as he takes office, or are you going to wait a bit to see if he or she can correct the problems? Surely you won't blame him or her for the issues there that you see right now, but instead you'll give it time until you see something that is definitely their responsibility.

I'm an atheist, but I understand how much this guy influences the actions and attitudes of people around the globe. I hope he's either progressive and stops denouncing gay people and condoms, or else he is as bad as the last guy and says things so stupid that people leave the church and discover a new morality for themselves that is actually beneficial to their fellow man.

Same with EA - I hope that either they straighten things out and release good games again, or their business practices are so bad that the company fails and their licenses get sold to other companies that will do things better.
2013-05-16 01:54:28 PM
1 votes:

hobberwickey: Seriously, I'm not a Catholic, but I'm quickly becoming a huge Pope Francis fan. If he doesn't get himself killed I think he might to a whole lot of good in the world.

/How did he become pope?


Yeah, I'm another non-Catholic who's on the Frankie bandwagon. Part of me wonders if the College of Cardinals collectively woke up a day or two after the conclave and said "Holy shiat! We just elected a Jesuit who's apparently serious about being a Jesuit! Can... can we have a do-over?"

The guy's not going to fix everything that's wrong with the church. He's only one man, and he's only got one lifetime. But he has the potential to do a world of good.
2013-05-16 01:45:36 PM
1 votes:

Bullseyed: xanadian: Isn't Pope Francis still living in that apartment or whatever the hell it's called?  Or did he finally move into the papal digs?

No, he still is living like an average guy. Subby is just an uneducated moron troll atheist, like any other.


I like the bit where he called up his formerly local newspaper back in South America to cancel his subscription. The person on the other end of the phone couldn't believe it was Franky.
2013-05-16 01:43:24 PM
1 votes:

johnny_vegas: phenn: Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.

priests don't take vows of poverty...that is probably why you didn't see it.

/now chastity.......


Depends what order of priest. Some do, some don't.
2013-05-16 01:42:38 PM
1 votes:

phenn: Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.


Depends on their order.
2013-05-16 01:38:46 PM
1 votes:

NightOwl2255: No, he didn't get rid of it. You think he sold it and gave the money to the dioceses that are filling for bankruptcy protection so they don't have to pay the kids that were molested?


Alright, alright, he's not using it.  Better? You know what I meant, you just want to biatch.
2013-05-16 01:37:47 PM
1 votes:

hobberwickey: /How did he become pope?


Cardinal 1: Everyone's been riding up our asses to elect either a black pope of someone from South America.
Cardinal 2: Well, why don't we elect that one guy in Africa? He's super Catholic and may carry on Bendict's papacy.
Cardinal 1: Nah, he may try to bring back the inquisition.
Cardinal 3: Who's in Latin America?
Cardinal 2: This guy in Argentina looks decent. And he's supported authoritarian politics in the past so he'd totally be okay with business as usual.
Cardinal 1: And he's white! Bring the guy in!
2013-05-16 01:35:08 PM
1 votes:

Thisbymaster: Was the a joke? Or have you never heard of Dubai? Or just about any corporation? They are all may times more opulent then the church.


I've never seen a CEO sitting on a golden throne weighed down with golden jewelry in a massive cathedral. Talking about the virtues of poverty, no less. If the pope just rode around in his expensive popemobile blasting gregorian chants and lived in a mansion it wouldn't be quite so bad.

MrSteve007: looks like he *is* practicing what he preaches.


He makes a good figurehead for such a greedy organization, but it doesn't change anything about the organization itself. The catholic church has always been concerned with material gain and power over everything else. I don't think he could possibly change it now, without destroying the entire thing first and starting fresh.
2013-05-16 01:27:58 PM
1 votes:

hobberwickey: Seriously, I'm not a Catholic, but I'm quickly becoming a huge Pope Francis fan. If he doesn't get himself killed I think he might to a whole lot of good in the world.

/How did he become pope?


THIS!
2013-05-16 01:25:28 PM
1 votes:

hobberwickey: Seriously, I'm not a Catholic, but I'm quickly becoming a huge Pope Francis fan. If he doesn't get himself killed I think he might to a whole lot of good in the world.

/How did he become pope?


me too.
2013-05-16 01:24:23 PM
1 votes:

phenn: Subby earns a slow clap for ridiculousness of the church. I was raised Catholic (much against my will) and was always told the clergy must take a vow of poverty. I've never seen any evidence to suggest they actually honor it.

With my sincere apologies to practicing Catholics, I despise the church and their hypocrisy.


We're all hypocrites.
2013-05-16 01:21:52 PM
1 votes:
The Pope wears RED shoes, submitter.
2013-05-16 01:21:20 PM
1 votes:
I think he was talking about all these money grubbing kids suing for being molested. Ungrateful little bastards! Don't they know what an honor it is to be picked to be one of the special altar boys?
2013-05-16 01:20:18 PM
1 votes:
He's not wrong, but yeah, maybe tone down the Liberace stylings.
2013-05-16 01:12:41 PM
1 votes:
Right on, Francis.
 
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