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2013-05-16 05:02:09 PM

humanshrapnel: max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.

Metabolism, genetics, not giving a shiat, not knowing any difference if you've been fat since you're a kid, etc.  Mostly the first two though.


I'll add quitting smoking, having kids, depression and anxiety leading to comfort food eating, and hunger caused by insulin resistance (carb/diabeetus spiral). I doubt most fatties live on fast food. Even when I was 100 pounds overweight and just hitting morbidly obese, there is no way I could eat $20 worth of Taco Bell at a single meal. My skinny husband can eat much more than I can at a single meal. My problem is that I ate more often than he did due to the reasons I listed above, and when I'd try not to, I'd end up fighting epic mental battles with myself. I could sometimes win the battles long enough to lose 20-40 pounds, but I'd always eventually wear down.

It doesn't go on all at once. Average 5 pounds gain a year (up and down, but obviously more up than down) over 20 years = 100 pounds overweight. That was me.
 
2013-05-16 05:05:10 PM

cryinoutloud: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x474]

OK, here is a good picture of Obama and Christie together. Obama is 6'1" about 180 pounds. How big is Christie??


easy money says double it
 
2013-05-16 05:05:46 PM

boyvoyeur: Corn_Fed: Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!

Help me! Four nights ago, I grilled a steak and a baked potato. I saved half of it for the next night. The third night, I'm down to 1/4 of a steak and 1/4 of a baked potato. I'm so hungry and it's hard to cut small pieces of steak and potato into halves again. I'M SO HUNGRY!!!


Yeah, but you gotta admit---you're losing weight fast!
 
2013-05-16 05:08:05 PM

CheetahOlivetti: Coco LaFemme: CSS time:  I think Christie is a loud, obnoxious dickhead, but I can't snark on him for wanting to lose weight.  I think it's asinine that people in this country make fun of fat people for being fat, then make fun of them when they try to lose weight, either by hitting the gym or having a lap band/gastric bypass.  It's like, make up your goddamn minds, you little shiatheads.  There's this woman at the gym my boyfriend and I go to, and she's probably about 250-260 lbs.  Without fail, every time we'd go, there would be this one asshole making mooing noises at her when she was on the treadmill.  One day my boyfriend got pissed off and went over there and told him if he didn't shut the fark up, he'd be gumming his food.  Now, he is 5'7 and about 150 lbs, so not exactly Schwarzenegger, but the dude was sufficiently worried, so he shut up and left.  Haven't seen him back there since, though that woman is still there, plugging along.  We've seen her often enough that we've noticed she's lost weight, and she looks good.

So yeah, there's plenty to shiat on Christie about, but this isn't one of them.

As someone who has had people yell "Give it up fatty!" and even throw beer bottles at me while I was running, I thank you.


That's the one advantage fat guys have at the gym over fat girls.  At my buggest I work out every fricking day, so I got a lot of stares at the gym, and yeah I know at least one of the Moron Testosterone Choir (you know, the liftos who grunt and scream with ever rep) was perparing to say something  snide to me about "wasting my time" (I heard him say it to at least two women previously) because he wanted another turn on the machine I'd just gotten on.  He stopped mid-sentence however as I calmly added about 500lbs of weight to the machine from his last set (about 1K total).  See, that's the thing about getting close to the 400lb mark: the muscles you need just to walk around, much less run are enromous, something people don;t think about when they are just concentrating on your jiggle
 
2013-05-16 05:10:37 PM

Shazam999: Americans have forgotten how normal people look like.  I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this.  A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.


I've put some of the weight back on, since I've been lazy the last year. But even when I was 185 I could have lost about 20 more pounds of body fat. I really don't have a lot of muscle underneath all this lard. If I actually had muscle mass, I'd ideally be around 210.

I need to start cutting out carbs again; I lost all that weight just by keeping my carbs below 100g per day. Well, actually what I did was cut out refined sugars, starches, and most foods with processed carbs. I didn't even really exercise that much. Too much pizza and sweets the last year or so. :/
 
2013-05-16 05:19:26 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.


For me it was just not caring what I ate, and I ate a lot of fast food. Just sitting around doing nothing also didn't help; I played a lot of WoW when I ballooned. I've always been over weight; I started getting my terrible body shape around age 10-11. Before that I was thin as a rail, and I couldn't put on weight. Most of my life I've been around 230-250. If I go above 220 I start feeling fat and go start trying to get back down to a comfortable size 36 pants. Pizza and beer is my greatest weakness now. :/
 
2013-05-16 05:29:56 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?


One other comment is that it's eminently harder when living with someone else.  My greatest successes were always when I lived alone.  I know that it's 1800 calories and biking at least 30 miles a week for me to hold the line (which is a painfully low BMR).  1900 and I gain weight.  When you live alone, you can count every gram, work out entirely on your own schedule, etc.

When I moved in with my average-midwestern wife, there'd be a pizza show up. She'd eat her half.  I could go and weigh my precise half-cup of brown rice and stirfry.  Or I could eat the other half of the pizza.  Far, far too easy to do the latter.
 
2013-05-16 05:33:03 PM
My god...he's full of stars...
 
2013-05-16 05:34:20 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


This. Having lost 90lbs myself I can say that being huge and losing any significant weight is awesome. Congrats christie!
 
2013-05-16 05:43:20 PM

Lawnchair:  half-cup of brown rice and stirfry.


seriously?  that was your dinner?
 
2013-05-16 05:43:25 PM
I'm 5'8" 250lbs and he looks like at least 3 of me. Or maybe I'm just way bigger than I think.
 
2013-05-16 05:44:58 PM
I hate this guy, but good for him doing something to get healthier, even though I'm a bit cynical about his ultimate motives.
 
2013-05-16 05:47:02 PM
Calling Meow said the dog...
 
m00
2013-05-16 05:47:54 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


padlock the fridge
 
2013-05-16 05:48:27 PM
I'd vote for it.

/For the lulz
//The only reason to do anything
 
2013-05-16 05:50:22 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?


Kids, school, work, and other life obligations that make it hard to control what food you have around, limit how much time you have to work out, etc.
 
2013-05-16 05:51:06 PM

boyvoyeur: Corn_Fed: Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!

Help me! Four nights ago, I grilled a steak and a baked potato. I saved half of it for the next night. The third night, I'm down to 1/4 of a steak and 1/4 of a baked potato. I'm so hungry and it's hard to cut small pieces of steak and potato into halves again. I'M SO HUNGRY!!!


Xeno, that you?
 
m00
2013-05-16 05:52:06 PM

Gadflypaper: I've put some of the weight back on, since I've been lazy the last year. But even when I was 185 I could have lost about 20 more pounds of body fat. I really don't have a lot of muscle underneath all this lard. If I actually had muscle mass, I'd ideally be around 210.

I need to start cutting out carbs again; I lost all that weight just by keeping my carbs below 100g per day. Well, actually what I did was cut out refined sugars, starches, and most foods with processed carbs. I didn't even really exercise that much. Too much pizza and sweets the last year or so. :/


I recently lost about 40lbs. It was weight I had put on during 10 years of "office job." BEST piece of advice I can give is get into an "eating routine." Like, eat the same lunch every day. Have a light dinner. Pick something that tastes good + is healthy. For me, it's grilled chicken & garlic, veggies. As soon as you start making choices when you are hungry, that's when things go bad.
 
2013-05-16 05:53:29 PM
Look fatties, the first 3 days are hard. Suck it up. It gets better.

Try the rubber band trick for the first week or so. Snap it every, single, time, the thought to binge crosses your mind. Not eating, just binging thoughts.

Don't get caught without a decent snack.

Stop making excuses.
 
2013-05-16 05:56:35 PM

Rapmaster2000: You libs will be sorry in 3 years when Chris Christie really sits around the White House.


I'm a lib and I love Christie. I also would have voted for Huntsman if the Repubs weren't so insane that they forced out their best chance of winning.
 
2013-05-16 05:59:44 PM
Lessee:

Entered college at 240
Left Freshman year at 280
Entered Sophomore year at 240 (despite eating 4K calories a day all summer.  Golf course sucks for money and is great for losing weight)
Left sophomore year at 310, because I was getting about 20 hours of sleep a week between school and 2 jobs, and using food to make up for it (to the point of eating an entire family-sized bag of chips and a pint of ice cream as a midnight snack every night for a 4 month stretch).
Entered Junior year at 295
Left junior year at 300
Entered Senior semester at 290
Left senior semester at 300

Currently about 300, despite eating about a third of what I was eating during college (in exchange for not walking at ALL).  Mostly grains with some meat because veggies make me puke.

I recently started riding my bike (to the train) to work, and discovered that 4 years of sitting on your butt eating Tostitos means that you fall off the bike after about a mile.  Since it's about a mile and a half to the train station (and 4 miles to/from the bike shop), this is less useful than I had hoped.
 
2013-05-16 06:00:51 PM

DirkValentine: I would love to see a picture of what you look like.


www.piccer.nl

Faces have been obscured to protect the guilty.

Nutsac_Jim: 6" 0' 150 lbs. Some people are like that.................in Ethiopia.


Almost twice, I'm 73 kilograms which would be 161 lbs. At 150 pounds I'd still be at a BMI of 20.5, which would still be classified as "healthy." But if you'd prefer a more exact figure I'm willing to say that he is roughly 87% heavier.

humanshrapnel: Just look at all these grossly obese people: https://www.google.com/search?q=6%276+300+lbs&client=firefox-a&hs=msQ & rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HUGVUbjKJ- qSiQKcm4HABA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=920


... Let me guess, you are also a person who claims that BMI isn't a good predictor for most people because this one heavy duty athlete you know doesn't fit the curve? Most people who are 300 pounds, even at 6'6" are fat. Deal with it.

/Phelps ate 10.000 calories a day without getting fat so I should be able to do that as well
//Right?
 
2013-05-16 06:01:43 PM
My husband is a big guy. Big fat not big tall. He is 290. There is no way Christie is 300. He must be at least 400.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:03 PM

Ninja Otter: max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?

Kids, school, work, and other life obligations that make it hard to control what food you have around, limit how much time you have to work out, etc.


Horse hockey! Nothing but excuses. Do you not have control over your hands feeding your fat face? How long does it take to do 100 pushups during the day? What 10 minutes? Stop sitting on the throne for so long and you will have that 10 minutes plus, I'm sure.

What you can't drink water, because your life would be soooo dull? Or, is it that your don't have time to go down and pump from the well?

I never let myself get past a certain point, even when injured. Something just clicks in me and I'm making adjustments. Some of us don't understand how you fatties continue past that point. Obviously, there are "medical" exceptions.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:37 PM

Heathen: Lawnchair:  half-cup of brown rice and stirfry.

seriously?  that was your dinner?


Yeah, pretty much.  Again, 1800 kCal was 'hold the line' at my lightest.  Since I was still on the overweight/obese line at my lightest, I was eating less than that. Dieting. 1500ish.  And biking 10 miles or considerably more.  If I wanted to avoid a blackout bonk on the ride (it's happened a couple times... "I'm going to go lie in the grass now"... no bloody fun), I'd eat most of those calories earlier in the day.  So, yeah, a 400-500 calorie dinner around 6 and then absolutely no snacking after.  Also shivering in my room during summer and going to bed at 8:30.

This is dieting.  It is starvation.  There is no other term for 'fewer calories than needed' for months on end than starvation.   It makes my dad's nice sudden pulmonary embolism at 66 seem like a pretty acceptable option.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:51 PM

meyerkev: Lessee:

Entered college at 240
Left Freshman year at 280
Entered Sophomore year at 240 (despite eating 4K calories a day all summer.  Golf course sucks for money and is great for losing weight)
Left sophomore year at 310, because I was getting about 20 hours of sleep a week between school and 2 jobs, and using food to make up for it (to the point of eating an entire family-sized bag of chips and a pint of ice cream as a midnight snack every night for a 4 month stretch).
Entered Junior year at 295
Left junior year at 300
Entered Senior semester at 290
Left senior semester at 300

Currently about 300, despite eating about a third of what I was eating during college (in exchange for not walking at ALL).  Mostly grains with some meat because veggies make me puke.

I recently started riding my bike (to the train) to work, and discovered that 4 years of sitting on your butt eating Tostitos means that you fall off the bike after about a mile.  Since it's about a mile and a half to the train station (and 4 miles to/from the bike shop), this is less useful than I had hoped.


Fiber-poor diet. Fix that.
 
2013-05-16 06:08:40 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


My girlfriend had this problem, fixed it with weird lucid dreaming exercises.  Kept a dream book and other things.  Basically it allowed her to wake herself up when it was happening.
 
2013-05-16 06:13:42 PM

DerAppie: DirkValentine: I would love to see a picture of what you look like.

[www.piccer.nl image 200x592]

Faces have been obscured to protect the guilty.

Nutsac_Jim: 6" 0' 150 lbs. Some people are like that.................in Ethiopia.

Almost twice, I'm 73 kilograms which would be 161 lbs. At 150 pounds I'd still be at a BMI of 20.5, which would still be classified as "healthy." But if you'd prefer a more exact figure I'm willing to say that he is roughly 87% heavier.

humanshrapnel: Just look at all these grossly obese people: https://www.google.com/search?q=6%276+300+lbs&client=firefox-a&hs=msQ & rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HUGVUbjKJ- qSiQKcm4HABA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=920

... Let me guess, you are also a person who claims that BMI isn't a good predictor for most people because this one heavy duty athlete you know doesn't fit the curve? Most people who are 300 pounds, even at 6'6" are fat. Deal with it.

/Phelps ate 10.000 calories a day without getting fat so I should be able to do that as well
//Right?


A pole dancer, eh?

I misread that as 6'2/150.  Still, 6'6/320 is not fat.  It's overweight a bit possibly.  My uncles are 6'6 & 6'7 and they are 280/300, and pretty thin.  Not overweightfor sure.

I'm 6'2/240 and while I could lose some weight, I still manage to bike at least 70 miles a week.

LARDO
 
2013-05-16 06:14:12 PM

Ninja Otter: max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?

Kids, school, work, and other life obligations that make it hard to control what food you have around, limit how much time you have to work out, etc.


Dad died when I was five and my little mind had no way of coping other than eating. Eventually food became my coping mechanism.

Lost myself in it. Regained control but I had to "grow up" first. (200lbs 6'0 now so a normal dude with a slightly smaller beer belly than many people I went to highschool with lol.)
 
2013-05-16 06:15:37 PM

Magorn: CheetahOlivetti: Coco LaFemme: CSS time:  I think Christie is a loud, obnoxious dickhead, but I can't snark on him for wanting to lose weight.  I think it's asinine that people in this country make fun of fat people for being fat, then make fun of them when they try to lose weight, either by hitting the gym or having a lap band/gastric bypass.  It's like, make up your goddamn minds, you little shiatheads.  There's this woman at the gym my boyfriend and I go to, and she's probably about 250-260 lbs.  Without fail, every time we'd go, there would be this one asshole making mooing noises at her when she was on the treadmill.  One day my boyfriend got pissed off and went over there and told him if he didn't shut the fark up, he'd be gumming his food.  Now, he is 5'7 and about 150 lbs, so not exactly Schwarzenegger, but the dude was sufficiently worried, so he shut up and left.  Haven't seen him back there since, though that woman is still there, plugging along.  We've seen her often enough that we've noticed she's lost weight, and she looks good.

So yeah, there's plenty to shiat on Christie about, but this isn't one of them.

As someone who has had people yell "Give it up fatty!" and even throw beer bottles at me while I was running, I thank you.

That's the one advantage fat guys have at the gym over fat girls.  At my buggest I work out every fricking day, so I got a lot of stares at the gym, and yeah I know at least one of the Moron Testosterone Choir (you know, the liftos who grunt and scream with ever rep) was perparing to say something  snide to me about "wasting my time" (I heard him say it to at least two women previously) because he wanted another turn on the machine I'd just gotten on.  He stopped mid-sentence however as I calmly added about 500lbs of weight to the machine from his last set (about 1K total).  See, that's the thing about getting close to the 400lb mark: the muscles you need just to walk around, much less run are enromous, something people don;t ...


I have to say, as a lifetime scrawny punk, I'm pretty jealous of former fat guys.  It'll take me the rest of my life to build up my legs to anything remotely respectable.  I wish someone would have told 15 year old me to just spend the next decade at around ~350lbs, then drop the weight.  Would have been simpler.

Also, were I not at work I'd be searching for the 'Kegelcizer' picture to accompany your story with a question mark.
 
2013-05-16 06:38:12 PM

DirkValentine: A pole dancer, eh?


Pole dancer? If only I was that limber. I'd lose a bending contest to a rake. That was during a drunken night out in town.

I misread that as 6'2/150. Still, 6'6/320 is not fat. It's overweight a bit possibly. My uncles are 6'6 & 6'7 and they are 280/300, and pretty thin. Not overweight for sure.

I'm 6'2/240 and while I could lose some weight, I still manage to bike at least 70 miles a week.

LARDO


If they are over 220 pounds it had better be a lot of muscle because otherwise they'd be quite comfortably in the obese category.
 
2013-05-16 07:24:15 PM

StoPPeRmobile: What 10 minutes? Stop sitting on the throne for so long and you will have that 10 minutes plus, I'm sure.


Are you seriously so delusional to think 10 minutes of exercise a day is the difference between fat and thin?

Just checked my log, I've done 30+ minutes on an elliptical every day this week, along with various weight machines, etc.

StoPPeRmobile: Obviously, there are "medical" exceptions.


See, here's the thing. We have hormones that trigger hunger. Some don't have strong hunger feelings, to the point they actually *can't* gain weight. I had a friend in high school bemoaning his thinness because he wanted to bulk up some for football, but couldn't. So if the absence of those hormones is such an obstacle to eating, is it that ridiculous to think the difference between many fat people and normalcy is an appetite hormone system that is out of whack? Do you tell smokers who want to quit, and alcoholics, "Geez, just put the cig/bottle down, it's not hard"?
 
2013-05-16 07:24:55 PM

elsuavio: fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.

My girlfriend had this problem, fixed it with weird lucid dreaming exercises.  Kept a dream book and other things.  Basically it allowed her to wake herself up when it was happening.




Try sugar-free candy instead for a bit.
 
2013-05-16 07:25:34 PM

Cagey B: pedobearapproved: Well he could be on the verge of/having problems that make it unsafe for him to be obese the YEARS it would take him to lose that weight naturally.

So he's on the verge of death from obesity? Man, now I really want to vote for him.


Are you stupid or a troll?  In case you're stupid verge of death is a lot different than is borderline diabetic, which would probably be his #1 concern. I would google it for you and put a link up, but you're probably struggling to think while still being able to use your mouth hole to gasp for air, so I won't cause you any stress.
 
2013-05-16 07:44:55 PM

mactheknife: [www.powerlineblog.com image 414x500]

Being a big guy (and one who resembles Christie at that), I wondered how tall he was so I could try and estimate his weight.  At my "pushing maximum density weight" I hit 333 lb. at 5'8", and looked about identical to what he does in this pic.  From that I extrapolate he was probably closing in on 375-400.

I don't like his politics or his party, but I say good for him for doing whatever he felt necessary for his health.  More power to him.


I'm about the same height (5'11") as Christie and that's a similar build to where I was at the start of this year, which was 394 lbs. I've dropped 70 lbs and 10 BMI points since then, but I'm still a big guy with quite some way to go. Dropping from high 300s to low 300s isn't as dramatic as, say, 250 down to 180.
 
2013-05-16 07:55:15 PM
you have pee hands: Lap band surgery isn't a magic bullet, it just takes the willpower out of keeping your diet in check. You can lose weight just as fast without it.

pounddawg: Here's what I don't get about lapband...You have this surgery (that could have many bad side effects) and then you have to follow this strict diet. Why not just skip the surgery and just do the strict diet with some moderate exercise?


The trick with the lapband is that you eat and completely fill up, to the point of eating more will make you sick, like vomit sick. There is no negative for eating more when you're on a strict diet other than staying fat. I have a friend that did lapband, and before he did it he was going to the gym everyday, eating way better than he ever had and he lost 50lbs in a year. When you're 320 lbs 50 is a lot but it's not enough to end your risk factors and when you slack off for a week or two because life happens and you gain back some weight it can kill your motivation.This guy got the lapband, has thrown down 120 lbs in a year. It's helped every aspect of his life.

You can lose weight as fast without it, if you went biggest loser style. But the chances of keeping it off over time are slim because you have to sustain the actions you were taking to get thin. Fat people have a different metabolism than people who have never been fat. While you or I could eat 2,300 calories and maintain 160 lbs a former fat person might gain weight from that ammount of food.

/I thought there would be more fat people on here, instead there are skinny people who don't seem to even know people that had a struggle with weight.
 
2013-05-16 08:40:32 PM

Ninja Otter: Some don't have strong hunger feelings, to the point they actually *can't* gain weight. I had a friend in high school bemoaning his thinness because he wanted to bulk up some for football, but couldn't. So if the absence of those hormones is such an obstacle to eating


It's not just 'lack of hunger feelings'.  Search out Sims' 1970's Vermont prisoner overfeeding studies.  He had normally-skinny prisoners overeat to study the mechanisms of obesity.  Two of his prisoners were eating 10,000 calories a day (these are prisoners... we know what they're eating and their exercise) who couldn't gain 15% of body mass.  They certainly 'weren't hungry' long before that, but they literally could not gain more weight.

Not to say that hunger hormones aren't a major component.  There are blood tests we can do already that will readily tell you, sight unseen, the difference between a Jared (fat guy keeping his weight down by commendable willpower, even after years) and someone of his exact same build who's never dieted a day in his life.
 
2013-05-16 09:22:35 PM

DerAppie: ... Let me guess, you are also a person who claims that BMI isn't a good predictor for most people because this one heavy duty athlete you know doesn't fit the curve? it doesn't account for muscle mass and was a formula derived no less than 260 years ago when many people suffered malnourishment during their adolescence and as a whole were smaller.  Most people who are 300 pounds, even at 6'6" are fat, which is a completely different term than 'grossly obese' which I mistakenly used in my original claim. Deal with it.


Dealt with.
 
2013-05-16 11:04:45 PM

Magorn: Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.

"starvation mode" is somewhat poorly understood by science but esentially, when you trip it, it's like flipping a switch that makes a car go from getting 20 mpg to one that gets 40.  We generally don't completely breakdown into useable energy all the caloriies we consume.   How mch of what we eat becomes useable body energy can vary based on a huge number of factors including, apparently, the species of bacteria that infests our guts.  To some extent this helps explain why one person can stuff their face to thier heart's content and never gain weight while another east a modest amount of food but still balloons up.  (meaning the next major famine that hits, you skinny biatches are toast and we fatties will be the only ones to make it through alive).   So yes, losing weight by  simply cutting caloric intake can be VERY difficult for some people (a situation that is exacerabted by the fact that easiest way to restrict calories is to eat low-fat foods, but many of the ones comercially availble try to replace the fat taste by boosting the sugar content, which causes insulin to send your body a signal to STORE fat not Burn it.)


None of the condescention there explains the impossibility of 'i work out every day and only eat one small meal'.

The rest of humanity gets thin when they do that. Fat americans just magically lock in at their weight, burn off the meal in the gym, and then defy physics the rest of the day. It is ridiculous.
 
2013-05-16 11:32:51 PM

Smackledorfer: Magorn: Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.

"starvation mode" is somewhat poorly understood by science but esentially, when you trip it, it's like flipping a switch that makes a car go from getting 20 mpg to one that gets 40.  We generally don't completely breakdown into useable energy all the caloriies we consume.   How mch of what we eat becomes useable body energy can vary based on a huge number of factors including, apparently, the species of bacteria that infests our guts.  To some extent this helps explain why one person can stuff their face to thier heart's content and never gain weight while another east a modest amount of food but still balloons up.  (meaning the next major famine that hits, you skinny biatches are toast and we fatties will be the only ones to make it through alive).   So yes, losing weight by  simply cutting caloric intake can be VERY difficult for some people (a situation that is exacerabted by the fact that easiest way to restrict calories is to eat low-fat foods, but many of the ones comercially availble try to replace the fat taste by boosting the sugar content, which causes insulin to send your body a signal to STORE fat not Burn it.)

None of the condescention there explains the impossibility of 'i work out every day and only eat one small meal'.

The rest of humanity gets thin when they do that. Fat americans just magically lock in at their weight, burn off the meal in the gym, and then defy physics the rest of the day. It is ridiculous.


Fatties who claim to eat a low calorie diet and excercise all the time are liars. The laws of thermodynamics are not violated by the human body.
 
2013-05-16 11:59:05 PM

max_pooper: Fatties who claim to eat a low calorie diet and excercise all the time are liars. The laws of thermodynamics are not violated by the human body.


Here's what I ate yesterday. My diet is quite banana heavy, but it's been doing the job for me.

Breakfast: 1 serving muesli (45 grams), 2 slices wholemeal toast with Marmite, banana, cup of tea (milk, no sugar)
Morning tea: Earl Grey, hot
Lunch: 1 wholemeal wrap, lettuce, mustard, slice of ham, banana, low-fat yogurt, cup of tea
Afternoon tea: Apple, cup of tea
Dinner: 150 grams lean stir-fry pork, 1 1/2 cups stir-fry vegetables, sweet and sour sauce, 1 banana, 1 litre of sparkling water to enjoy through the evening.

Breakfast and lunch are usually the same for me every day. When I'm not having stir-fries, I have a serving of red meat, chicken, or fish (150 grams) + 125 grams mashed potatoes (I use the frozen ones and put them in the microwave), 100 grams of peas with black pepper to taste + 8-10 small brussels sprouts (roasted or sauteed, depending on how I'm cooking the meat). I find the kitchen scales are just as important ast the bathroom scales when it comes to losing weight.

It's a boring diet, but it's filling and, like I said, I've gone from 394 lbs (178.8 kg) to 324 (147 kg) since the start of the year my BMI has gone from 56.4 to 46.4. The last time I had my blood pressure checked it was 125/80. I only get hungry now as meal times approach. I haven't started an exercise programme yet, I'm keeping that in reserve for when my weight loss slows down.
 
2013-05-17 11:50:06 AM
Want to know the secret to loosing weight?  Come here..Ill tell ya, Believe it or not, its been around for about 50 years............Weight Watchers. Now before you start laughing at me because I am a guy who is doing a "chick diet" I wil tell you that I have lost 36lbs in 17 weeks.  Their smartphone app makes tracking and all of the other parts of the program a breeze. Of course I do cardio (exercise bike for 35minutes with a target heart rate of 140) 3 times a week which also helps.  I have to tell you that they make it so easy that if an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.  The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification. There is none of this  no carb, high fat can only eat certain colored veggies stuff.  You can have anything you want, even beer.  However, you have to stay within your daily / weekly points budget and they teach you how to do it.  Its not easy, especially the first few weeks, but if I can do it, anyone can
 
2013-05-17 11:55:35 AM

emt92339: Want to know the secret to loosing weight?  Come here..Ill tell ya, Believe it or not, its been around for about 50 years............Weight Watchers. Now before you start laughing at me because I am a guy who is doing a "chick diet" I wil tell you that I have lost 36lbs in 17 weeks.  Their smartphone app makes tracking and all of the other parts of the program a breeze. Of course I do cardio (exercise bike for 35minutes with a target heart rate of 140) 3 times a week which also helps.  I have to tell you that they make it so easy that if an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.  The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification. There is none of this  no carb, high fat can only eat certain colored veggies stuff.  You can have anything you want, even beer.  However, you have to stay within your daily / weekly points budget and they teach you how to do it.  Its not easy, especially the first few weeks, but if I can do it, anyone can


Laugh at you because of a "chick" diet? No.

Laugh at you because you are paying them to teach you the things a single book could have given you (or even a couple of internet articles), and the rest of their point system is you paying them to avoid doing the only slightly more difficult math of looking at calorie counts yourself?

Also, the system of not eating too much and doing moderate exercise is one hell of a lot older than fifty years.  farking hilarious you present the staying power of weight watchers as evidence that it is good :D
 
2013-05-17 12:09:37 PM

Smackledorfer: Laugh at you because you are paying them to teach you the things a single book could have given you (or even a couple of internet articles), and the rest of their point system is you paying them to avoid doing the only slightly more difficult math of looking at calorie counts yourself?


You don't pay for the knowledge on Weight Watchers.  Nothing that isn't public domain.

You pay for someone to pretend like they care.  The support group and accountability aspect.

Nobody but you will notice whether you're 20 pounds up or down.  Politeness says they won't say anything for a long time after that.  A few people will brag on Facebook, but that's a bore and a quick way to the ignore button.  And, with a lot of haters, when you're still fat, "I've lost 20 pounds" is immediately rejoined with "why would you brag when you need to lose another 80".

It's not just a 'chick' thing to need to tell somebody... ANYBODY... that you've done X when it's been a struggle for you and nobody else gives a poop.  So, you pay somebody to care.  Somebody besides yourself to write it down in a little chart.  It works for a lot of people.
 
2013-05-17 12:29:42 PM

Lawnchair: You don't pay for the knowledge on Weight Watchers.  Nothing that isn't public domain.


He specifically said he does.

emt92339: The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification.


Lawnchair: It works for a lot of people.


Fine, you are paying for friends who aren't assholes and can give you a high-five when you accomplish something?

Because you ought to be looking for that outside of WW anyways.
 
2013-05-17 03:01:30 PM

Smackledorfer: emt92339: Want to know the secret to loosing weight?  Come here..Ill tell ya, Believe it or not, its been around for about 50 years............Weight Watchers. Now before you start laughing at me because I am a guy who is doing a "chick diet" I wil tell you that I have lost 36lbs in 17 weeks.  Their smartphone app makes tracking and all of the other parts of the program a breeze. Of course I do cardio (exercise bike for 35minutes with a target heart rate of 140) 3 times a week which also helps.  I have to tell you that they make it so easy that if an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.  The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification. There is none of this  no carb, high fat can only eat certain colored veggies stuff.  You can have anything you want, even beer.  However, you have to stay within your daily / weekly points budget and they teach you how to do it.  Its not easy, especially the first few weeks, but if I can do it, anyone can

Laugh at you because of a "chick" diet? No.

Laugh at you because you are paying them to teach you the things a single book could have given you (or even a couple of internet articles), and the rest of their point system is you paying them to avoid doing the only slightly more difficult math of looking at calorie counts yourself?

Also, the system of not eating too much and doing moderate exercise is one hell of a lot older than fifty years.  farking hilarious you present the staying power of weight watchers as evidence that it is good :D


Wow the bitterness is strong with this one.  However I am not going to feed the trolls today.
 
2013-05-17 03:06:15 PM

emt92339: Wow the bitterness is strong with this one.  However I am not going to feed the trolls today.


I'm curious, is there any way in which I could disagree with your points about why weight watchers is so great without you considering me a bitter troll?

I may have been heavy on the snark, but you were equally heavy on the kool-aid, imo.
 
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