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(International Business Times)   Gov. Chris Christie wants you to comment on his fabulous 300 lb. figure   (ibtimes.com) divider line 197
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2013-05-16 11:57:28 AM
The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!
 
2013-05-16 12:02:51 PM
300 pounds...

Is that all, what is he 5 foot 1!
 
2013-05-16 12:27:20 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


I thought on Fark we were supposed to point and laugh at fatties?

/that's a huge biatch

www.matt-thornton.net
 
2013-05-16 01:30:46 PM
>:[
 
2013-05-16 01:33:31 PM
 
2013-05-16 01:34:55 PM
hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.
 
2013-05-16 01:35:01 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy elected President. Lets all point and laugh!!


Fixed that for you....

 
2013-05-16 01:35:23 PM
He has a sort of Classical grace about him, like the Venus of Willendorf.
 
2013-05-16 01:35:24 PM
I won't crap on him for working on it.

I do find surgery to be an extreme option though, I doubt he really tried very hard to lose it by traditional means.
 
2013-05-16 01:36:52 PM

baka-san: 300 pounds...

Is that all, what is he 5 foot 1!


5 foot 11.  There's no way in hell he's 300.  I'd guess at least 350.
 
2013-05-16 01:37:28 PM
I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...
 
2013-05-16 01:37:41 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


welcome to fark?
 
2013-05-16 01:37:46 PM
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2013-05-16 01:37:49 PM
"For me, this is about turning 50 and looking at my children and wanting to be there for him," the governor said. But he admitted that he has yet to see any "great metamorphosis" since his procedure in February.

I have a cousin who used to weigh in at about the 400-pound level, although who knows really, that's just my vague estimate. Recently, my aunt said, "Have you noticed that N has lost 100 pounds?"

I didn't notice a thing. And I don't see the fat cousin very often, so you'd think the difference would be even more noticeable to me. So she's still.....Chris Christie's size.
 
2013-05-16 01:38:14 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


Well if we didn't point and laugh, he'd be as fat and unhealthy as he ever was, so we are actually helping him, and in turn, his future political career.

Which I'm sure you don't have a problem with, being the biggest GOP apologist on Fark.
 
2013-05-16 01:38:53 PM

Rootus: baka-san: 300 pounds...
Is that all, what is he 5 foot 1!
5 foot 11.  There's no way in hell he's 300.  I'd guess at least 350.


Thirding that he's well over 300 pounds.
 
2013-05-16 01:39:08 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I won't crap on him for working on it.

I do find surgery to be an extreme option though, I doubt he really tried very hard to lose it by traditional means.


Typical bootstrappy republican, taking the easy way out.

/kidding, I like Chris "Crisco" Christie
 
2013-05-16 01:39:10 PM

Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...


What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".
 
2013-05-16 01:40:22 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I won't crap on him for working on it.

I do find surgery to be an extreme option though, I doubt he really tried very hard to lose it by traditional means.


I consider that surgery to be self-mutilation and medical malpractice personally, but I seriously considered it at my biggest, because working out (1/2 hour areboic 1/2 weights minimum ) every day and easting a low fat diet for three years hadn;t done a damn thing but help me lose like 3lbs.   Thank god I learned about Low-carb diets when I did
 
2013-05-16 01:42:09 PM
SuperNinjaToad
hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.


Nah, obama was on his knees.
 
2013-05-16 01:42:20 PM

Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...


It's all about how you carry the weight. I have gained about 50 pounds in the past 4 years and really only my face and my gut look any different. My limbs have very little fat.
 
2013-05-16 01:43:00 PM
I saw him on the T.V. last night, he had his trousers pulled up over his belly just under his moobs. a sweet-ass salmon colored collar shiat and black slacks.  sharp as a  tack.

/I tease, but that's what i saw.
//I like the guy.
 
2013-05-16 01:43:57 PM
He looks like someone let the air out of the Michelin man.
 
2013-05-16 01:46:23 PM
Keep it going Gov, you're looking svelte.
 
2013-05-16 01:47:03 PM
Can he haz bucket?
 
2013-05-16 01:47:33 PM

SuperNinjaToad: hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.


According to WaPo, Christie is 5' 11", which makes sense, as he is visibly shorter than the President.

www.powerlineblog.com

By any measure Christie is morbidly obese. Irrespective of his future political goals, he should lose a hundred pounds just to minimize the risk of sudden death.
 
2013-05-16 01:47:38 PM
300 lbs? yeah and that's just his ass.

Seriously though his official bio says he is 5'9". Looking like that the dude must weigh in at at least 400 lbs.
 
2013-05-16 01:47:42 PM

SuperNinjaToad: hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.


If someone is 300 lbs at 6'6" then (s)he is that grossly obese.

Only 6 inches taller than me and almost twice the weight makes him/her a fat person.
 
2013-05-16 01:50:41 PM

crab66: It's all about how you carry the weight. I have gained about 50 pounds in the past 4 years and really only my face and my gut look any different. My limbs have very little fat.


At a recent check-up, the doctor didn't initially believe the weight that the nurse had written down, but I could confirm it was accurate.  The doc shrugged and said "really? you don't look it; you carry it well."  (6'3", 255; going to try to get down to maybe 230, roughly my college weight, in the next year or so.)
 
2013-05-16 01:51:10 PM
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2013-05-16 01:53:10 PM

Stone Meadow: According to WaPo, Christie is 5' 11", which makes sense, as he is visibly shorter than the President.


And he's got a giant farking head.  Ok, part of it is jowls, but still.
 
2013-05-16 01:53:25 PM
Is this the one where he looks at his cell phone and it says "The McRib is Back"? Cause that's fake.
 
2013-05-16 01:54:53 PM

Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...


I think that makes sense. To non-fatties, a fat person is a fat person. The degree of fatness doesn't change the fact that the person is a fatty. People will say "good for you!" and mean it but they are thinking "he/she is still fat". When you go from a fatty to something that appears to a non-fatty suddenly you are being mentally slotted into a different category . Whole different kettle of fish.
 
2013-05-16 01:55:09 PM

Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...


Yes...it is. When I was obese no one noticed my weight loss until I got down into the middle of the 'overweight' range. From there until I dropped into the normal range I got a constant stream of compliments. Watching my obese SiL after her surgery was like this. The first 100 lbs was barely noticeable. The next 50 more so, and the final 50 was amazing.
 
2013-05-16 01:55:24 PM
"It's not as simple as, 'Push yourself away from the table and you'll be fine.'"


Yeah, it is that simple.
 
2013-05-16 01:56:37 PM
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She's more of a drinker, but I'm sure after the bum shock fights she could use some oxy.
 
2013-05-16 01:59:30 PM

Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".


That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.
 
2013-05-16 02:00:12 PM

Bravo Two: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".


Same thing I did the first time: Make sure my proten intake is over 100 gm/day and Drop my carb intake to under 60gm a day not oncluding dietary fiber.   It works like a charm every time for me .  Exercise helps a little, but at least for my metabolism (and given your measurements I'd say we have the same one)  dropping the carbs, leads to lower insulin production, and when your body's glucagon level is higher than its insulin level, it starts making series 2 eicosaniods (micro-hormones) one of which is a signals for the body to burn stored fat.  Once that turns on viola, weight starts dropping almost like magic  (and bcause it is all fat, as opposed to fat, bone and muscle whichall get eaten when you take the restricted calories approach-the weight loss is more dramatically noticeable body-shape wise) .   If you've tried that and it doesn't work  like it used to,  Try adding Chromium Picolinate and Vitamin D supplements to your diet.  Chromium re-sensitizes the body's insulin recpetors meaning you need to make less, and Vitamin d (which according to my doc most adults who work indoors are deficient in) plays a critical role in how effectively your body can use the insulin you produce (so when levels are high enough you need to make less)
 
2013-05-16 02:02:45 PM
You libs will be sorry in 3 years when Chris Christie really sits around the White House.
 
2013-05-16 02:04:09 PM
Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.
 
2013-05-16 02:05:40 PM

Rapmaster2000: You libs will be sorry in 3 years when Chris Christie really sits around the White House.


I hope they reinforce the chairs.
 
2013-05-16 02:05:50 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.


Well technically starving yourself IS a good way to lose weight however the problem is not consistent starvation but rather overcompensating and gorging on food after starving a day or two.

Aside from surgery there is really only one practical way to effectively and safely lose weight that doesn't involve 100% willpower like exercising, etc....

start buying nasty food when you go grocery shopping. Don't buy food you like to eat rather buy food you DON'T like to eat.
 
2013-05-16 02:06:07 PM

liam76: "It's not as simple as, 'Push yourself away from the table and you'll be fine.'"
Yeah, it is that simple.


Almost.
1. Don't be hungry. Eat 3 meals, incl. breakfast. Stop eating when the hunger is gone.
2. Reduce carbs as much as possible.
3. Drink water. Check calories on other beverages! Beer, Coke and orange juice will set you back.
4. Get plenty of sleep.

Those 4 simple rules replace any other tips out there and guarantee a life long healthy weight.

/Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.
 
2013-05-16 02:08:03 PM

Rapmaster2000: You libs will be sorry in 3 years when Chris Christie really sits around the White House.


Never happen unless he runs as an independent.

No way he gets through the GOP faith healer bootcamp/primaries.
 
2013-05-16 02:09:31 PM

instantwin: liam76: "It's not as simple as, 'Push yourself away from the table and you'll be fine.'"
Yeah, it is that simple.

Almost.
1. Don't be hungry. Eat 3 meals, incl. breakfast. Stop eating when the hunger is gone.
2. Reduce carbs as much as possible.
3. Drink water. Check calories on other beverages! Beer, Coke and orange juice will set you back.
4. Get plenty of sleep.

Those 4 simple rules replace any other tips out there and guarantee a life long healthy weight.

/Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.


All those things make it easier, but if you eat the same types of food but eat less you will lose weight.
 
2013-05-16 02:10:39 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Stop buying so much bread. Or put it in the freezer, that way you'd have to put it in the toaster or microwave before you eat it.
 
2013-05-16 02:13:06 PM

Magorn: Bravo Two: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

Same thing I did the first time: Make sure my proten intake is over 100 gm/day and Drop my carb intake to under 60gm a day not oncluding dietary fiber.   It works like a charm every time for me .  Exercise helps a little, but at least for my metabolism (and given your measurements I'd say we have the same one)  dropping the carbs, leads to lower insulin production, and when your body's glucagon level is higher than its insulin level, it starts making series 2 eicosaniods (micro-hormones) one of which is a signals for the body to burn stored fat.  Once that turns on viola, weight starts dropping almost like magic  (and bcause it is all fat, as opposed to fat, bone and muscle whichall get eaten when you take the restricted calories approach-the weight loss is more dramatically noticeable body-shape wise) .   If you've tried that and it doesn't work  like it used to,  Try adding Chromium Picolinate and Vitamin D supplements to your diet.  Chromium re-sensitizes the body's insulin recpetors meaning you need to make less, and Vitamin d (which according to my doc most adults who work indoors are deficient in) plays a critical role in how effectively your body can use ...


Please say that in English.
 
2013-05-16 02:13:21 PM

fireclown


Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question. I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds. I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat. It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice. I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice. Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice? It's making me crazy.


Don't keep any bread in the house. Duh.
 
2013-05-16 02:16:25 PM
His jowls are quivering in a most pleasing fashion.
 
2013-05-16 02:16:25 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Stop buying bread.
 
2013-05-16 02:17:05 PM

liam76: "It's not as simple as, 'Push yourself away from the table and you'll be fine.'"

Yeah, it is that simple.


While it is for some, for many "pushbacks" is simply not effective. Better to change WHAT you eat than to continue eating the shiat that made you fat in the first place...only in lower quantities that leave you feeling hungry and cranky.

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


I couldn't lose the weight until I threw out the bread, pasta, rice and spuds, and switched to a lo-carb, hi-fat diet. To cure the night-time hungries I made sure I got a good slug of fat about half an hour before bed. I've used peanut butter or Ken's Blue Cheese dressing on a celery stick, 2 or 3 dark chocolate kisses...even a tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil. An ounce of ethanol helps, too!
 
2013-05-16 02:17:22 PM

Stone Meadow: SuperNinjaToad: hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.

According to WaPo, Christie is 5' 11", which makes sense, as he is visibly shorter than the President.

[www.powerlineblog.com image 414x500]

By any measure Christie is morbidly obese. Irrespective of his future political goals, he should lose a hundred pounds just to minimize the risk of sudden death.


Dude's got a pretty good chance of just dropping dead from a heart attack or stroke now.
 
2013-05-16 02:18:10 PM
How much of this Chromium Picolinate  does one add to the diet.
 
2013-05-16 02:18:43 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Get rid of the white bread. None in the house.

Have you spoken with a nutrionalist?  It seems you're craving it. Perhaps you can get your diet balanced and help cut down on the cravings?
 
2013-05-16 02:18:48 PM

Bravo Two: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".


eat more. seriously.

you need a minimum of 1500 net calories spread througout the day.

i dropped 65 and have 25 more to go.

drink water or tea (no sugar...though i did use splenda).
protein shake for breakfast (i used muscle milk light or myoplex light) with a fiber bar or something like that.

at lunch and dinner- half my plate was salad and veggies. more than a quarter was a lean protein...non fried, and if i had any carbs it was a very small amount. i usually made the rest veggies and not rice or pasta or bread. if i got a chicken sandwich or a burger it was without cheese and without bread.

i worked out after dinner for 1 to 1.5 hours. i started on an elliptical but have moved to running outside. my goal was burning calories. i can run 6-7 miles now in about 1 hr 5 minutes or so. the rest of the time is some lifting...nothing too heavy. also do abs. little rest between sets. sometimes i even jump rope between sets.

within an hour of the workout, another protein shake. that is usually my 'dessert'.

get an app for your phone or ipod. try loseit! and religously keep track of your calories. i did for a year and lost all that weight. i haven't been as good at it lately and my losing has slowed. lose it helps you track what your minimum net calories for the day should be to safely lose weight.
 
2013-05-16 02:19:21 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Piss on the bread before you go to sleep.  That way if you really want it you'd better be desperate.
 
2013-05-16 02:20:50 PM

Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...


I died my moustache and people asked if I lost weight.  Yes, just like the stupid commercial.

Congratulations on the weight losses.  I know it is not easy and I am glad to know you are trying to take care of yourself and live a longer and healthier life.
 
2013-05-16 02:23:09 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


He got lap band surgery because he's too much of a lazy f*ck to diet and exercise. Let's praise him and put him in charge of all of our spice production.
 
2013-05-16 02:23:40 PM
When I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple of years ago, they had me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Weight was 454 when I was admitted was down to 337 when released. Took me a longtime to lose anymore but am slowly losing again. Hope to be under 300 by labor day. It isn't allways overeating. Sleep apnea will really fark with you.
 
2013-05-16 02:23:49 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


stop buying bread.
 
2013-05-16 02:23:57 PM

kimwim: Magorn: Bravo Two: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

Same thing I did the first time: Make sure my proten intake is over 100 gm/day and Drop my carb intake to under 60gm a day not oncluding dietary fiber.   It works like a charm every time for me .  Exercise helps a little, but at least for my metabolism (and given your measurements I'd say we have the same one)  dropping the carbs, leads to lower insulin production, and when your body's glucagon level is higher than its insulin level, it starts making series 2 eicosaniods (micro-hormones) one of which is a signals for the body to burn stored fat.  Once that turns on viola, weight starts dropping almost like magic  (and bcause it is all fat, as opposed to fat, bone and muscle whichall get eaten when you take the restricted calories approach-the weight loss is more dramatically noticeable body-shape wise) .   If you've tried that and it doesn't work  like it used to,  Try adding Chromium Picolinate and Vitamin D supplements to your diet.  Chromium re-sensitizes the body's insulin recpetors meaning you need to make less, and Vitamin d (which according to my doc most adults who work indoors are deficient in) plays a critical role in how effectively your body ...


Eat Lo carb/High protein and  however the fark much fat you want.   Basically cut out the bread, the buns, the side dishes like rice and pasta and eat all the meat, and bacon and  cheese, and peanut butter you want.  Eat lots of lettuce and high-fiber veggies, and avoid fruits and most sweet stuff.  Drink a fair amount of water to flush your system and take a vitamin D pill once in a while  Savvy?
 
2013-05-16 02:26:40 PM

instantwin: liam76: "It's not as simple as, 'Push yourself away from the table and you'll be fine.'"
Yeah, it is that simple.

Almost.
1. Don't be hungry. Eat 3 meals, incl. breakfast. Stop eating when the hunger is gone.
2. Reduce carbs as much as possible.
3. Drink water. Check calories on other beverages! Beer, Coke and orange juice will set you back.
4. Get plenty of sleep.

Those 4 simple rules replace any other tips out there and guarantee a life long healthy weight.

/Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.


Pretty much this. The real key is to eat slowly and eat until you're not hungry--don't eat until you're full. And get out of the "clean your plate" mindset that your parents probably drilled in to you. Throwing away food isn't a crime and nobody gives a shiat about starving kids in Africa.
 
2013-05-16 02:27:28 PM

kimwim: How much of this Chromium Picolinate  does one add to the diet.


generally the amount that you can buy at any grocery store in the supplement aisle is plenty  (you can also drink more red wine and add more black pepper to your food and supplement it naturally)  CP is very popular among body builders because it also promotes lean muscle growth, so GNC type places stock it, though in higher doses than you need
 
2013-05-16 02:30:20 PM

fat boy: When I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple of years ago, they had me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Weight was 454 when I was admitted was down to 337 when released. Took me a longtime to lose anymore but am slowly losing again. Hope to be under 300 by labor day. It isn't allways overeating. Sleep apnea will really fark with you.


You lost 117 lbs in two weeks?
 
2013-05-16 02:30:45 PM

liam76: /Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.


Do you want to lose weight more slowly and/or do you want to die young of heart disease or a dozen other things? If yes, then by all means don't exercise.

Protip: exercise should not be considered optional by anyone.
 
2013-05-16 02:31:19 PM

Cagey B: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!

He got lap band surgery because he's too much of a lazy f*ck to diet and exercise. Let's praise him and put him in charge of all of our spice production.


Well he could be on the verge of/having problems that make it unsafe for him to be obese the YEARS it would take him to lose that weight naturally. But I'm sure you'd make fun of that too.
 
2013-05-16 02:35:59 PM

Jument: liam76: /Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.

Do you want to lose weight more slowly and/or do you want to die young of heart disease or a dozen other things? If yes, then by all means don't exercise.

Protip: exercise should not be considered optional by anyone.


Yup. Find a routine that you can stick to for the rest of your life and make it happen. You certainly don't have to be a marathoner, but moving about is what your body is supposed to do and not doing that will ensure you have weight issues forever.

Walk, if nothing else. It's good for the head as well.
 
2013-05-16 02:38:44 PM

pedobearapproved: Well he could be on the verge of/having problems that make it unsafe for him to be obese the YEARS it would take him to lose that weight naturally. But I'm sure you'd make fun of that too.


Lap band surgery isn't a magic bullet, it just takes the willpower out of keeping your diet in check.  You can lose weight just as fast without it.
 
2013-05-16 02:38:55 PM

Bravo Two: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".


Make sure your one meal is 8 eggs, not 2 hours at an allyou can eat bar
 
2013-05-16 02:41:26 PM
Lookin good, Fatty!

Actually I have no comment, there didn't appear to be a picture in TFA.
 
2013-05-16 02:42:51 PM
Christie's gonna be HAWT when he gets down to 250lbs. Like that kid in Stand By Me. No joke.
 
2013-05-16 02:43:32 PM

pedobearapproved: Well he could be on the verge of/having problems that make it unsafe for him to be obese the YEARS it would take him to lose that weight naturally.


So he's on the verge of death from obesity? Man, now I really want to vote for him.

pedobearapproved: But I'm sure you'd make fun of that too.


Mostly I'm making fun of the "b-b-but he's getting healthy and he's a hero!" spirit of the original post. If he were to engage in a sustained program of diet and exercise (which I assume he can since he's been entrusted to, y'know, govern a state), thereby proving himself capable of both effort and rational long-term planning, then I'd totally drop the fat jokes. You're free to cry more in the meantime, though.
 
2013-05-16 02:43:52 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: fat boy: When I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple of years ago, they had me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Weight was 454 when I was admitted was down to 337 when released. Took me a longtime to lose anymore but am slowly losing again. Hope to be under 300 by labor day. It isn't allways overeating. Sleep apnea will really fark with you.

You lost 117 lbs in two weeks?


Yes kidneys were shutting down and they were pumping me full of lasix . Seemed like i was peeing constantly. Got me on a bipap and lower dose of lasix and doing much better.
 
2013-05-16 02:46:07 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Greek yogurt before bed? They greek yogurt popsicles which are pretty good or you could blend a shake! Recommended for my son who is always starving and used to get up at night. The protein is supposed to help keep one "full" during the night.  Add it to the meditation/relaxation before bed.
 
2013-05-16 02:46:47 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Do what I did. Put a combination lock on the fridge/pantry that flashes a single digit n at you. Then you have to punch in the first 20 numbers of the Fibonacci sequence mod n. Arduino - is there anything that it can't do?
 
2013-05-16 02:47:00 PM
My Cousin did not make 50, he weighed - well no one knows, but the last time I saw him alive, about a week before he died, I estimated 450 lbs.  His wife was 350 easy and his kid 300 easy.  It was kind of scary.  I was getting fatter than hell myself at the time - My wife told me that I had to lose some weight and with some careful diet adjustments, I lost 100 lbs in a year.

You just cannot imagine the difference - 44" pant to 36" pant being roomy.  XXL t-shirts pushing to XXXL to L, same brand pants and shirts [OK, I still like Carhartt...].  You get your entire life back by making this change - it's really hard to do though, you have to have the motivation to give up the casual snacking, the late night fridge run, the 12 taco bell soft taco lunch, two six packs of beer a day lifestyle.  Move more and destress.

I am cheering Christie on myself, I would LOVE to see a public figure show us how it can be done, and I'm happy he's sharing it with the public, many of whom could lose 50+ lbs.

Heck, I'm pretty much a Democrat and I like CC, he seems like he might actually be real.  I dunno, but I like him so far.
 
2013-05-16 02:49:20 PM

bmwericus: My Cousin did not make 50, he weighed - well no one knows, but the last time I saw him alive, about a week before he died, I estimated 450 lbs.  His wife was 350 easy and his kid 300 easy.  It was kind of scary.  I was getting fatter than hell myself at the time - My wife told me that I had to lose some weight and with some careful diet adjustments, I lost 100 lbs in a year.

You just cannot imagine the difference - 44" pant to 36" pant being roomy.  XXL t-shirts pushing to XXXL to L, same brand pants and shirts [OK, I still like Carhartt...].  You get your entire life back by making this change - it's really hard to do though, you have to have the motivation to give up the casual snacking, the late night fridge run, the 12 taco bell soft taco lunch, two six packs of beer a day lifestyle.  Move more and destress.

I am cheering Christie on myself, I would LOVE to see a public figure show us how it can be done, and I'm happy he's sharing it with the public, many of whom could lose 50+ lbs.

Heck, I'm pretty much a Democrat and I like CC, he seems like he might actually be real.  I dunno, but I like him so far.


Cheers to him but he took the easy way out.  He isn't doing diet and exercise he got his stomach stapled.  I'd like to see a public figure do it the hard way.
 
2013-05-16 02:51:04 PM
How the heck is he only 300 lbs? I'm 5'10"ish (and a big ish at that), weigh 270, and look like two of me could fit in him. According to the BMI, we should look roughly the same in size (olol BMI).

(But hey, more power to him that he's trying to get in shape)
 
2013-05-16 02:51:11 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: fat boy: When I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple of years ago, they had me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Weight was 454 when I was admitted was down to 337 when released. Took me a longtime to lose anymore but am slowly losing again. Hope to be under 300 by labor day. It isn't allways overeating. Sleep apnea will really fark with you.

You lost 117 lbs in two weeks?


Yea, but the alimony payments are killing me.

/thank you. I'm here all week.
 
2013-05-16 02:52:20 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.


Yep. Legions of Ethiopian starvation victims and POW camp victims prove that stopping eating makes you gain weight.
 
2013-05-16 02:53:42 PM

Jument: liam76: /Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.

Do you want to lose weight more slowly and/or do you want to die young of heart disease or a dozen other things? If yes, then by all means don't exercise.

Protip: exercise should not be considered optional by anyone.


That wasn't me who said that,  I agree with you.
 
2013-05-16 02:57:08 PM
Typical conservative.......preach to everyone about hard work and then take the easy route when it comes to their own choices in life.
 
2013-05-16 02:57:12 PM

gweilo8888: The Crepes of Wrath: That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

Yep. Legions of Ethiopian starvation victims and POW camp victims prove that stopping eating makes you gain weight.


Not comparable because the starvation victims cheat: after being hungry for two days, there still is no food in sight.
 
2013-05-16 02:58:22 PM

fat boy: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: fat boy: When I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple of years ago, they had me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Weight was 454 when I was admitted was down to 337 when released. Took me a longtime to lose anymore but am slowly losing again. Hope to be under 300 by labor day. It isn't allways overeating. Sleep apnea will really fark with you.

You lost 117 lbs in two weeks?

Yes kidneys were shutting down and they were pumping me full of lasix . Seemed like i was peeing constantly. Got me on a bipap and lower dose of lasix and doing much better.


You didn't lose weight as much as you sprung a leak.
 
2013-05-16 03:01:53 PM

Bravo Two: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".


What're you drinking? Go nothing water for a month, and you should see results.  My feeling is that people massively underestimate their liquid calorie intake.  Also, there's anecdotal evidence (still, mind you, not too much concrete science) that artificial sweeteners promote fat retention, regardless of low caloric intake.

Avoid all processed foods as well.  (I read Sugar, Salt, Fat and thought it makes a convincing argument on this).  If it's in a box, don't eat it.

Another helper: raw veggies at the start of every meal.  You could try to eat as much mixed raw veggies with no dressing as an initial course.

In short: eat food, not as much, mostly plants.
 
2013-05-16 03:01:59 PM
Weight will be an issue if he runs -  among other things.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Chris_Christie.htm
 
2013-05-16 03:02:29 PM

The Martian Manhandler: fat boy: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: fat boy: When I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple of years ago, they had me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Weight was 454 when I was admitted was down to 337 when released. Took me a longtime to lose anymore but am slowly losing again. Hope to be under 300 by labor day. It isn't allways overeating. Sleep apnea will really fark with you.

You lost 117 lbs in two weeks?

Yes kidneys were shutting down and they were pumping me full of lasix . Seemed like i was peeing constantly. Got me on a bipap and lower dose of lasix and doing much better.

You didn't lose weight as much as you sprung a leak.


Felt like it.
 
2013-05-16 03:03:28 PM

DerAppie: SuperNinjaToad: hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.

If someone is 300 lbs at 6'6" then (s)he is that grossly obese.

Only 6 inches taller than me and almost twice the weight makes him/her a fat person.


I would love to see a picture of what you look like.
 
2013-05-16 03:05:55 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Get rid of the bread.
 
2013-05-16 03:05:59 PM
Marita Oil, if you can find it.
 
2013-05-16 03:07:00 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.


It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.
 
2013-05-16 03:08:31 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: He has a sort of Classical grace about him, like the Venus of Willendorf.


Plus 1.
 
2013-05-16 03:14:26 PM

Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.


Yup.  It takes a few weeks before your body goes into starvation mode. It's virtually impossible unless you're literally eating nothing at all for an extended period of time (a few days).
 
2013-05-16 03:15:15 PM

cryinoutloud: "Have you noticed that N has lost 100 pounds?"


THAT's Racist !!
 
2013-05-16 03:15:40 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


Something I like that seems to be standard for a lot of bodybuilding type articles is to eat protein and fat as your last meal before bed.  Not something heavy of course, but something like a small bit of peanut butter, cottage cheese or protein shake or all three depending on your calories and intake during the day.  Also, most lifters who down a lot of calories have a shake prepared before bed and if they wake up in the middle of the night hungry down that.  So I'd try either of those.  Eat a small amount of healthy fat before bed (1-2Tsp pb) and have something healthy prepared for when you wake.
 
2013-05-16 03:18:06 PM
I'm going to throw my two cents into the weightloss discussion here, but the main thing that worked for me (captain obvious here) is creating a calorie deficit and using an app to track everything you eat throughout the day.  And I do mean EVERYTHING, from the beer to the mints to the "oh look there's an extra cookie leftover from a meeting and I'm gonna NOM NOM NOM it up!"  No supplements, no avoiding certain foods.  Just a calorie deficit.  Now that's not to say I didn't avoid junk food (because that should be common sense), but if I'd been at the gym for an hour that day and then spent another hour at home shoveling snow/mowing the lawn, you can bet I scarffed down some Peanut Butter World.

I'm 5' 9", started at 200 lbs back in September, and lost weight for the same reason Christie did - the guy at the suit store said he couldn't let out my suit pants anymore because they were maxed, and said "I was easily a 38" inseam", although I was wearing 36" pair of shorts at the time.  Definitely depressed me a bit.

38 lbs. later, I'm running my first 5K in June, down to a loose 34" dress pant, and love running into people I haven't seen for awhile.  My end goal is to get to 150 lbs, but I've shifted most of my exercise efforts to weight lifting as opposed to cardio.  162 is a good weight, but I'm still pretty flabby, and am hoping that putting more emphasis into building some muscle will help with a better shape.
 
2013-05-16 03:18:44 PM

Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...


I went from 285 to 185 in about 8 months. My friends we're throwing sandwiches at me. I'm 6'4" though, so I look like a bean pole without the extra girth. Good luck and keep at it; It's worth it.
 
2013-05-16 03:20:38 PM
Here's what I don't get about lapband...You have this surgery (that could have many bad side effects) and then you have to follow this strict diet. Why not just skip the surgery and just do the strict diet with some moderate exercise?
 
2013-05-16 03:20:46 PM

Carn: Cheers to him but he took the easy way out.  He isn't doing diet and exercise he got his stomach stapled.  I'd like to see a public figure do it the hard way.


So, taking a hard problem, after trying the tact that has a 1% long-term success rate, goes in the tact that has a ~25% long-term success rate.

To me, that's pragmatism and following the lead of statistics over following a dogma.  That's something I'd  LIKE to see in more politicians.
 
2013-05-16 03:24:18 PM
Big ass man or a man with a big ass. It's all in how you look at it.
 
2013-05-16 03:25:04 PM

pounddawg: Here's what I don't get about lapband...You have this surgery (that could have many bad side effects) and then you have to follow this strict diet. Why not just skip the surgery and just do the strict diet with some moderate exercise?


The best working theory is that the various techniques do really impact various hunger-producing hormones.

The pragmatic answer?  Because it works.  Because it statistically works better and over a longer term with fewer failures (plenty of failures, mind you, but fewer) than any diet regime going.  Because the stats are so strong that hundreds of insurance plans have started covering it, and they have whole rooms of actuaries on the case.
 
2013-05-16 03:25:54 PM

liam76: Jument: liam76: /Exercise is optional - it's healthy for many reasons, but not needed for reducing weight.

Do you want to lose weight more slowly and/or do you want to die young of heart disease or a dozen other things? If yes, then by all means don't exercise.

Protip: exercise should not be considered optional by anyone.

That wasn't me who said that,  I agree with you.


Oops. Quoting is hard! Sorry...
 
2013-05-16 03:26:04 PM

DirkValentine: fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.

Get rid of the bread.


That is some sound advice right there.
 
2013-05-16 03:26:25 PM
Okay here is where I brag about going from 287 to 185 in 12 months through diet and exercise.
 
2013-05-16 03:27:03 PM

Gadflypaper: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

I went from 285 to 185 in about 8 months. My friends we're throwing sandwiches at me. I'm 6'4" though, so I look like a bean pole without the extra girth. Good luck and keep at it; It's worth it.


Americans have forgotten how normal people look like.  I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this.  A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.
 
2013-05-16 03:27:52 PM

Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.


"starvation mode" is somewhat poorly understood by science but esentially, when you trip it, it's like flipping a switch that makes a car go from getting 20 mpg to one that gets 40.  We generally don't completely breakdown into useable energy all the caloriies we consume.   How mch of what we eat becomes useable body energy can vary based on a huge number of factors including, apparently, the species of bacteria that infests our guts.  To some extent this helps explain why one person can stuff their face to thier heart's content and never gain weight while another east a modest amount of food but still balloons up.  (meaning the next major famine that hits, you skinny biatches are toast and we fatties will be the only ones to make it through alive).   So yes, losing weight by  simply cutting caloric intake can be VERY difficult for some people (a situation that is exacerabted by the fact that easiest way to restrict calories is to eat low-fat foods, but many of the ones comercially availble try to replace the fat taste by boosting the sugar content, which causes insulin to send your body a signal to STORE fat not Burn it.)
 
2013-05-16 03:29:01 PM

TheRameres: I'm going to throw my two cents into the weightloss discussion here, but the main thing that worked for me (captain obvious here) is creating a calorie deficit and using an app to track everything you eat throughout the day.  And I do mean EVERYTHING, from the beer to the mints to the "oh look there's an extra cookie leftover from a meeting and I'm gonna NOM NOM NOM it up!"  No supplements, no avoiding certain foods.  Just a calorie deficit.  Now that's not to say I didn't avoid junk food (because that should be common sense), but if I'd been at the gym for an hour that day and then spent another hour at home shoveling snow/mowing the lawn, you can bet I scarffed down some Peanut Butter World.

I'm 5' 9", started at 200 lbs back in September, and lost weight for the same reason Christie did - the guy at the suit store said he couldn't let out my suit pants anymore because they were maxed, and said "I was easily a 38" inseam", although I was wearing 36" pair of shorts at the time.  Definitely depressed me a bit.

38 lbs. later, I'm running my first 5K in June, down to a loose 34" dress pant, and love running into people I haven't seen for awhile.  My end goal is to get to 150 lbs, but I've shifted most of my exercise efforts to weight lifting as opposed to cardio.  162 is a good weight, but I'm still pretty flabby, and am hoping that putting more emphasis into building some muscle will help with a better shape.


Yeah, same thing here.  Calorie deficit and tracked EVERYTHING using MyFitnessPal.  I'm now back to the weight I was in 2000.

I still have to lose around 20 lbs to get back down to a more healthy weight.  I have a lot of fat in my midsection still.
 
2013-05-16 03:29:58 PM

Magorn: Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.

"starvation mode" is somewhat poorly understood by science but esentially, when you trip it, it's like flipping a switch that makes a car go from getting 20 mpg to one that gets 40.  We generally don't completely breakdown into useable energy all the caloriies we consume.   How mch of what we eat becomes useable body energy can vary based on a huge number of factors including, apparently, the species of bacteria that infests our guts.  To some extent this helps explain why one person can stuff their face to thier heart's content and never gain weight while another east a modest amount of food but still balloons up.  (meaning the next major famine that hits, you skinny biatches are toast and we fatties will be the only ones to make it through alive).   So yes, losing weight by  simply cutting caloric intake can be VERY difficult for some people (a situation that is exacerabted by the fact that easiest way to restrict calories is to eat low-fat foods, but many of the ones comercially availbl ...


No, the easiest way to restrict calories is to not stuff your gullet with so much food...
 
2013-05-16 03:30:38 PM

Lawnchair: Carn: Cheers to him but he took the easy way out.  He isn't doing diet and exercise he got his stomach stapled.  I'd like to see a public figure do it the hard way.

So, taking a hard problem, after trying the tact that has a 1% long-term success rate, goes in the tact that has a ~25% long-term success rate.

To me, that's pragmatism and following the lead of statistics over following a dogma.  That's something I'd  LIKE to see in more politicians.


I'll still give him credit for it regardless.  I know you still have to follow a diet after they do it.
 
2013-05-16 03:31:19 PM

instantwin: Not comparable because the starvation victims cheat: after being hungry for two days, there still is no food in sight.


Which is the real answer. People who "starve" themselves aren't actually starving themselves. They're eating just as much as they always did. If they didn't, they'd lose weight.
 
2013-05-16 03:32:49 PM

Shazam999


Americans have forgotten how normal people look like. I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this. A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.


You should look into this really cool thing called 'context'. It is quite likely that former-fatty was stating how skinny he is compared to how fat he used to be. Just a thought.
 
2013-05-16 03:35:16 PM

Whiskey Pete: Okay here is where I brag about going from 287 to 185 in 12 months through diet and exercise.


Same here.

/ three bloody times
 
2013-05-16 03:35:23 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Shazam999

Americans have forgotten how normal people look like. I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this. A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.


You should look into this really cool thing called 'context'. It is quite likely that former-fatty was stating how skinny he is compared to how fat he used to be. Just a thought.


Nope.  He honestly thought he was getting too skinny, based on his appearance.  Dude still had a 36 waist, which is quite high for his height.
 
2013-05-16 03:42:48 PM

Shazam999


Nope. He honestly thought he was getting too skinny, based on his appearance.


Wow, really?? Maybe be wasn't used to seeing a fun-house-mirror version of himself, but you're right: it sounds like he didn't need to worry about excessive skinniness.
 
2013-05-16 03:43:36 PM

Gadflypaper: Magorn: I can sympathize, when I droped from 370 to 285 in about 3 1/2 months, *I* felt svelte and skinny as hell, and of course those closest to me DID comment extensively about it, but  of course 6'2 and 285 still ain't skiiny.  It's why when i recently droped another 40 I was taken aback by how many people commented on it, and not just friends, but people in line at the bus, check-out clerks, even the guy running the omelelte station at a place I go to brunch about once every six months or so.   To me 40lbs was chump change so barely worth noticing, but the difference between 240 and 280 is, to the outside world, apparently much more noticeable than 370-280...

I went from 285 to 185 in about 8 months. My friends we're throwing sandwiches at me. I'm 6'4" though, so I look like a bean pole without the extra girth. Good luck and keep at it; It's worth it.


The awkward moment was seeing a friend I hadn;t seen in six months and them saying "hey you' look great, you've lost a ton of weight--is everything OK?"   leaving me the opening to tell them about my cancer or somesuch...

and Yeah, for me it's REALLY worth it right now.  In the ten years between my first hundred lbs and the second 40 I picked up a slight touch of Type II 'Beetus  which prompted me to return to Low carbing for a while.   I'm more than a little hopeful that with perscription-strength Vit D Supplementation and being strict about carb intake that this is a temporary condition.   And so far...Doc's giving it a definite-maybe.  Went from a 300 fasting sugar and an 11.9 A1C shortly after diagnosis  to an A1C of 5.5 (depending on who you ask, that's either normal or pre-diabetic)  three months later.   Something she had thought was frankly impossible before I gave it a go.

Currently only I'm taking 1 pill a day (2mg (1/4 of the max dose) of Glimeperide) and just trying to eat right and keep the carbs low. and overall I'm way healthier than I was pre-diagnosis
 
2013-05-16 03:44:16 PM
Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!

4) Remove all easily-obtainable snack bags and boxes from your house. If you want a snack, you can have anything, BUT you must get in your car and drive to the convenience store to get a single snack.

Following these steps will result in very slow, but steady weightloss. Its biggest benefit is that it teaches you to eat in the real world, through portion control, rather than artificial constructs like swearing off entire food classes. Starting a "diet" which you won't use for the rest of your life isn't worth spending even one day on. Low-carb diets work to lose the weight, but everybody eventually starts really craving breads, cookies, brownies, etc, and you gain all the weight back.

I lost 100 pounds following this plan, required no book or special tools, no special foods, and I've kept it off for years now. I eat all the foods I love, and it's easy to continue.
 
2013-05-16 03:48:24 PM

Shazam999: Englebert Slaptyback: Shazam999

Americans have forgotten how normal people look like. I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this. A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.


You should look into this really cool thing called 'context'. It is quite likely that former-fatty was stating how skinny he is compared to how fat he used to be. Just a thought.

Nope.  He honestly thought he was getting too skinny, based on his appearance.  Dude still had a 36 waist, which is quite high for his height.


When you used to wear size52's (as gove Christie and I both did once upon a when) 40 seems pretty damn small to you, much less 36.  And remember, a human male at their healthiest has about a 10% body fat to weight ratio.  (women have a 15% one)  Get to far below that and you are setting yourself up for a whole different set of health problems.  Other than folks like Olympic swimmers and professional Boxers the "washboard abs" look is not only not very achieveable but not healthy long -term
 
2013-05-16 03:49:06 PM

pounddawg: Here's what I don't get about lapband...You have this surgery (that could have many bad side effects) and then you have to follow this strict diet. Why not just skip the surgery and just do the strict diet with some moderate exercise?


Yeah, I don't really understand that.  I have a similar story- I got a small rectal fissure (no homo) a long time ago and it bleeds very rarely.  I finally went to see a proctologist to make sure it wasn't really dangerous.  He told me to take lots of fiber, cut down on soda, and drink more water.  I did this for 2 months and I got tired of the fiber powders and pills, so I went back and we talked surgery.  He told me there was a risk, albeit small, that I would lose control of my sphincter completely, and of course I'd have to continue the fiber and diet changes.  I didn't see an upside so I just make sure to chase my beer with lots of water.  The surgery seemed to be all risk, little reward.

I've seen plenty of really determined fatties beat the band too by drinking calories or basically eating slowly nonstop.  My uncle the anesthesiologist says that lots of people come to see his practice in November so they can "let out" their lap bands (the adjustable ones) so they can eat a lot for the holidays then they come back in January to get it readjusted.  What's the point of that?
 
2013-05-16 03:49:45 PM
CSS time:  I think Christie is a loud, obnoxious dickhead, but I can't snark on him for wanting to lose weight.  I think it's asinine that people in this country make fun of fat people for being fat, then make fun of them when they try to lose weight, either by hitting the gym or having a lap band/gastric bypass.  It's like, make up your goddamn minds, you little shiatheads.  There's this woman at the gym my boyfriend and I go to, and she's probably about 250-260 lbs.  Without fail, every time we'd go, there would be this one asshole making mooing noises at her when she was on the treadmill.  One day my boyfriend got pissed off and went over there and told him if he didn't shut the fark up, he'd be gumming his food.  Now, he is 5'7 and about 150 lbs, so not exactly Schwarzenegger, but the dude was sufficiently worried, so he shut up and left.  Haven't seen him back there since, though that woman is still there, plugging along.  We've seen her often enough that we've noticed she's lost weight, and she looks good.

So yeah, there's plenty to shiat on Christie about, but this isn't one of them.
 
2013-05-16 03:49:52 PM
So here's my experience: Used to be 250lbs and am down to 160 now. I'm 5'7" and went from a 42 to 33 inch waist. Initially I did a very low carb diet and that helped, but what helped me stay on the path once I started putting more carbs into my body as my exercise level increased were substitutions and learning how to cook in various methods in order to keep my taste buds interested. I actually got myself down to 152lbs but it was just too difficult to maintain when I went from walk/jogging to weight lifting. 160lbs seems to be where I'm happy. I never did any super tweaking out on various substances to promote weight loss or anything like that. If it works for you, cool, but for the average person input vs. output is usually the way to go. It's surprising how many people are dishonest with themselves and others when it comes to their eating habits.
 
2013-05-16 03:56:29 PM
Oh and congrats to everyone making the effort to improve their quality of life.
 
2013-05-16 03:59:23 PM
Good for Christie. Would be better to see him lose it more through diet and exercise, but still good for him for finding a way to lose some weight.
 
2013-05-16 04:05:20 PM

pounddawg: Here's what I don't get about lapband...You have this surgery (that could have many bad side effects) and then you have to follow this strict diet. Why not just skip the surgery and just do the strict diet with some moderate exercise?


I had a friend that had weight loss surgery (gastric by pass) after years of yo-yo dieting. To me, the main problem with some people that can't keep weight off is they always "feel" hungry, or at least want to eat. She'd tell me about how often she thought of food, and it wasn't normal or healthy. She knew exactly what she needed to do to be a healthy weight, but the amount of effort it took to stay the course was stressful and... not understandable by people like me, I guess. So she has the surgery, and I was really worried, but so far she's down 100 lbs, and the best part for her is that she no longer stresses about food. The desire to want to eat all the time went away, and some of the stuff she used to love doesn't even temp her anymore. Part of it is because certain foods will make her sick if she eats it, but I really think a lot of it was mental because the joy she used to get from over eating no longer exists for her.

/just my random thoughts
 
2013-05-16 04:05:31 PM

Magorn: When you used to wear size52's (as gove Christie and I both did once upon a when) 40 seems pretty damn small to you, much less 36. And remember, a human male at their healthiest has about a 10% body fat to weight ratio. (women have a 15% one) Get to far below that and you are setting yourself up for a whole different set of health problems. Other than folks like Olympic swimmers and professional Boxers the "washboard abs" look is not only not very achieveable but not healthy long -term


For most guys abs start to show at 12-15% BF.  There's some variability because everyone stores fat different places.  Most people who claim single digit bodyfat are lying, this goes doubly for people claiming numbers like 3-5%, unless they're actually starving.
 
2013-05-16 04:08:46 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


7/10 good effort, many bites you shall have
 
2013-05-16 04:10:03 PM

DerAppie: SuperNinjaToad: hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.

If someone is 300 lbs at 6'6" then (s)he is that grossly obese.

Only 6 inches taller than me and almost twice the weight makes him/her a fat person.


6" 0'   150 lbs.      Some people are like that.................in Ethiopia.
 
2013-05-16 04:11:16 PM

Coco LaFemme: CSS time:  I think Christie is a loud, obnoxious dickhead, but I can't snark on him for wanting to lose weight.  I think it's asinine that people in this country make fun of fat people for being fat, then make fun of them when they try to lose weight, either by hitting the gym or having a lap band/gastric bypass.  It's like, make up your goddamn minds, you little shiatheads.  There's this woman at the gym my boyfriend and I go to, and she's probably about 250-260 lbs.  Without fail, every time we'd go, there would be this one asshole making mooing noises at her when she was on the treadmill.  One day my boyfriend got pissed off and went over there and told him if he didn't shut the fark up, he'd be gumming his food.  Now, he is 5'7 and about 150 lbs, so not exactly Schwarzenegger, but the dude was sufficiently worried, so he shut up and left.  Haven't seen him back there since, though that woman is still there, plugging along.  We've seen her often enough that we've noticed she's lost weight, and she looks good.

So yeah, there's plenty to shiat on Christie about, but this isn't one of them.


As someone who has had people yell "Give it up fatty!" and even throw beer bottles at me while I was running, I thank you.
 
2013-05-16 04:16:24 PM
He's *at least* 375 lbs, at least during Sandy and such. However, I am really sick of the Fatty McFatty shiat with him. I truly don't give a flying fark about anyone's weight. If he's slimming down for politics or for personal reasons...awesome. I wish people didn't do it surgically (only because many of those surgeries are dangerous and have long term probs, like gastric bypass) but again...that's a personal choice.

If I'm going to dislike or mock someone, it's going to be because they're an asshat (Amy & Samy wheee) not because of what they look like, or how they sound. Content of character and all that jazz.

I really don't get the fat hate. I just don't. I have friends who've been overweight their whole lives and the stories I've heard from them...holy shiat. Seriously between all the bullshiat people have put them through their entire lives, plus not feeling as attractive as they should, PLUS living in a society that loathes obesity...if it was easy for them they wouldn't be overweight. I've yet to meet someone who was that didn't struggle with it. It's not like they get any breaks over it.

/used to think fat people were just lazy. Isn't ashamed to admit she was wrong.
 
2013-05-16 04:16:50 PM

liam76: "It's not as simple as, 'Push yourself away from the table and you'll be fine.'"


Yeah, it is that simple.


But it's NOT that simple when your arms are too short and your belly to big.
 
2013-05-16 04:24:08 PM
A thread about being fat! Now there's something farkers can sink their teeth into!
 
2013-05-16 04:25:12 PM
www.powerlineblog.com

Being a big guy (and one who resembles Christie at that), I wondered how tall he was so I could try and estimate his weight.  At my "pushing maximum density weight" I hit 333 lb. at 5'8", and looked about identical to what he does in this pic.  From that I extrapolate he was probably closing in on 375-400.

I don't like his politics or his party, but I say good for him for doing whatever he felt necessary for his health.  More power to him.
 
2013-05-16 04:26:02 PM
there's this thing called fruit and vegetables (the one's other than potatoes)
try them

every time you sit down to your usual serving of eight pounds of pasta
(I'm assuming that's like 6 - 12 times a day)
instead have a couple oranges

it'll help you move your bowels too
 
2013-05-16 04:27:50 PM
I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.
 
2013-05-16 04:28:04 PM

Magorn: Shazam999: Englebert Slaptyback: Shazam999

Americans have forgotten how normal people look like. I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this. A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.


You should look into this really cool thing called 'context'. It is quite likely that former-fatty was stating how skinny he is compared to how fat he used to be. Just a thought.

Nope.  He honestly thought he was getting too skinny, based on his appearance.  Dude still had a 36 waist, which is quite high for his height.

When you used to wear size52's (as gove Christie and I both did once upon a when) 40 seems pretty damn small to you, much less 36.  And remember, a human male at their healthiest has about a 10% body fat to weight ratio.  (women have a 15% one)  Get to far below that and you are setting yourself up for a whole different set of health problems.  Other than folks like Olympic swimmers and professional Boxers the "washboard abs" look is not only not very achieveable but not healthy long -term


Someone needs to tell you what a normal waist size is.  And large waist sizes are very, very correlated with really serious health problems.  Once your waist becomes a certain size, especially for males, you start to store fat interstitially, which is especially dangerous.

Hell, when I used to weigh 165 lbs, my waist size was 30!
 
2013-05-16 04:28:28 PM
I somehow feel this guy can't win.  People complained about his weight.  He fought back for a while, until it finally occurred to him that people were right, and decided to do something about it.  Yet, the media is still criticizing him for it?!  That just seems so unfair.


Anyway...
My weight loss story is rather simple.  There was a time when I had packed on a pretty healthy belly, and tipped the scales much heavier than I ever had before.  I didn't really notice until I saw a picture of me holding my daughter, and she was sitting on my belly.

So, I decided it was time to make some changes.
1.  Instead of a bagel with cream cheeze every morning, a piece of fruit.
2.  Instead of a sammich at lunch, I turned to salad, and sometimes some soup.

In about 6 months I dropped 70lbs.  And all I did was change my eating habits.  The only downside is that my metabolism kicked back in to the degree it was like 20 years ago.  Now I have to eat constantly just to maintain my current weight.  I'm sure that seems backwards and rather to be enveid by some of you, but it's actually not a lot of fun.  I get a little tired of eating so much.  (Yeah, I know "shut up, boo hoo, bla bla bla...")
 
2013-05-16 04:31:46 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.


Age, for one thing.  As you get older your caloric needs drop.  I did a RMR test and I use about 2000 calories/day.  Sounds high?  If I was in my 20s it would be around 2500 cals.

It was a slow weight gain for me.  All you need to do is eat just a little too much and you'll start to pack on the pounds over the years.
 
2013-05-16 04:32:14 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


==================

He got the surgery paid for by government provided health care!  For a condition that is totally preventable!  OMG, socialism!  Where is his sense of personal responsibility!
 
2013-05-16 04:35:42 PM
What a bunch of judgmental losers.
 
2013-05-16 04:41:37 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?


At least in my case, it's hard to say because I started plumping at around 7.  As did both of my parents.  As did three of my grandparents (the other grandma would probably have been without 3-packs-a-day), and at least six of my great-grandparents.  The relatives were a bunch of fatties in the old-country pics from Poland, Scotland, and Belarus as far back as tintype photos go.
 
2013-05-16 04:41:51 PM

bmwericus: My Cousin did not make 50, he weighed - well no one knows, but the last time I saw him alive, about a week before he died, I estimated 450 lbs.  His wife was 350 easy and his kid 300 easy.  It was kind of scary.  I was getting fatter than hell myself at the time - My wife told me that I had to lose some weight and with some careful diet adjustments, I lost 100 lbs in a year.
<snip>
I am cheering Christie on myself, I would LOVE to see a public figure show us how it can be done, and I'm happy he's sharing it with the public, many of whom could lose 50+ lbs.


A friend of mine weighed north of 500 and didn't live to 36.

A few years ago, I drove him to one of the pre-op information seminar/interview things about gastric bypass. He said he wasn't sure about the procedure, because "it's for people who are morbidly obese." I had to pull the car over on the shoulder, because I damn near had an aneurysm when he said that.

/Good on you for dropping the hundo. Seriously.
//Good on Christie for doing what he's gotta do.
 
2013-05-16 04:41:57 PM
Buy one of those replicas of a pound of fat and put it in your fridge. It should sufficiently gross you out every time you feel the pang to eat an entire block of government cheese.
 
2013-05-16 04:43:08 PM

DerAppie: SuperNinjaToad: hmmm maybe after the surgery he is 300ibs but before that I would say he is closer to 400 ibs.
Either way if you're lik 6' 6 300 is NOT that grossly obese..  how tall is Christie anyway? 6' 2" or something? he looks like a big guy. I remember him towering over Obama in one of the pictures.

If someone is 300 lbs at 6'6" then (s)he is that grossly obese.

Only 6 inches taller than me and almost twice the weight makes him/her a fat person.


Just look at all these grossly obese people: https://www.google.com/search?q=6%276+300+lbs&client=firefox-a&hs=msQ & rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HUGVUbjKJ- qSiQKcm4HABA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=920
 
2013-05-16 04:44:37 PM
I'm surprised at how polite most people are being here. Fat threads on fark usually get pretty ugly.
 
2013-05-16 04:47:50 PM

Corn_Fed: Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!


Help me! Four nights ago, I grilled a steak and a baked potato. I saved half of it for the next night. The third night, I'm down to 1/4 of a steak and 1/4 of a baked potato. I'm so hungry and it's hard to cut small pieces of steak and potato into halves again. I'M SO HUNGRY!!!
 
2013-05-16 04:48:26 PM

o'really


I'm surprised at how polite most people are being here. Fat threads on fark usually get pretty ugly.


doc.appoozle.net

Sorry, I'm not very good at being mean.
 
2013-05-16 04:49:42 PM
Hmmm. . . . .

1. Criticize hell out of Christie fir being fat;

2. Never say a word about Obama being a nicotine addict.

Double standard as usual?
 
2013-05-16 04:51:01 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.


Metabolism, genetics, not giving a shiat, not knowing any difference if you've been fat since you're a kid, etc.  Mostly the first two though.
 
2013-05-16 04:51:48 PM

durbnpoisn: The only downside is that my metabolism kicked back in to the degree it was like 20 years ago. Now I have to eat constantly just to maintain my current weight. I'm sure that seems backwards and rather to be enveid by some of you, but it's actually not a lot of fun. I get a little tired of eating so much. (Yeah, I know "shut up, boo hoo, bla bla bla...")


I had eating disorders when I was young, and I screwed my metabolism all up, so I couldn't eat very much without putting on weight. It fixed itself when I got pregnant, and I've been pretty much been able to eat whatever I want since then. I'm about ten pounds lighter than I was in the days when I used to watch every bite I ate.
 
2013-05-16 04:53:15 PM

boyvoyeur: Corn_Fed: Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!

Help me! Four nights ago, I grilled a steak and a baked potato. I saved half of it for the next night. The third night, I'm down to 1/4 of a steak and 1/4 of a baked potato. I'm so hungry and it's hard to cut small pieces of steak and potato into halves again. I'M SO HUNGRY!!!


Zeno's tater.
 
2013-05-16 04:58:06 PM
assets.nydailynews.com

OK, here is a good picture of Obama and Christie together. Obama is 6'1" about 180 pounds. How big is Christie??
 
2013-05-16 05:02:09 PM

humanshrapnel: max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.

Metabolism, genetics, not giving a shiat, not knowing any difference if you've been fat since you're a kid, etc.  Mostly the first two though.


I'll add quitting smoking, having kids, depression and anxiety leading to comfort food eating, and hunger caused by insulin resistance (carb/diabeetus spiral). I doubt most fatties live on fast food. Even when I was 100 pounds overweight and just hitting morbidly obese, there is no way I could eat $20 worth of Taco Bell at a single meal. My skinny husband can eat much more than I can at a single meal. My problem is that I ate more often than he did due to the reasons I listed above, and when I'd try not to, I'd end up fighting epic mental battles with myself. I could sometimes win the battles long enough to lose 20-40 pounds, but I'd always eventually wear down.

It doesn't go on all at once. Average 5 pounds gain a year (up and down, but obviously more up than down) over 20 years = 100 pounds overweight. That was me.
 
2013-05-16 05:05:10 PM

cryinoutloud: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x474]

OK, here is a good picture of Obama and Christie together. Obama is 6'1" about 180 pounds. How big is Christie??


easy money says double it
 
2013-05-16 05:05:46 PM

boyvoyeur: Corn_Fed: Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!

Help me! Four nights ago, I grilled a steak and a baked potato. I saved half of it for the next night. The third night, I'm down to 1/4 of a steak and 1/4 of a baked potato. I'm so hungry and it's hard to cut small pieces of steak and potato into halves again. I'M SO HUNGRY!!!


Yeah, but you gotta admit---you're losing weight fast!
 
2013-05-16 05:08:05 PM

CheetahOlivetti: Coco LaFemme: CSS time:  I think Christie is a loud, obnoxious dickhead, but I can't snark on him for wanting to lose weight.  I think it's asinine that people in this country make fun of fat people for being fat, then make fun of them when they try to lose weight, either by hitting the gym or having a lap band/gastric bypass.  It's like, make up your goddamn minds, you little shiatheads.  There's this woman at the gym my boyfriend and I go to, and she's probably about 250-260 lbs.  Without fail, every time we'd go, there would be this one asshole making mooing noises at her when she was on the treadmill.  One day my boyfriend got pissed off and went over there and told him if he didn't shut the fark up, he'd be gumming his food.  Now, he is 5'7 and about 150 lbs, so not exactly Schwarzenegger, but the dude was sufficiently worried, so he shut up and left.  Haven't seen him back there since, though that woman is still there, plugging along.  We've seen her often enough that we've noticed she's lost weight, and she looks good.

So yeah, there's plenty to shiat on Christie about, but this isn't one of them.

As someone who has had people yell "Give it up fatty!" and even throw beer bottles at me while I was running, I thank you.


That's the one advantage fat guys have at the gym over fat girls.  At my buggest I work out every fricking day, so I got a lot of stares at the gym, and yeah I know at least one of the Moron Testosterone Choir (you know, the liftos who grunt and scream with ever rep) was perparing to say something  snide to me about "wasting my time" (I heard him say it to at least two women previously) because he wanted another turn on the machine I'd just gotten on.  He stopped mid-sentence however as I calmly added about 500lbs of weight to the machine from his last set (about 1K total).  See, that's the thing about getting close to the 400lb mark: the muscles you need just to walk around, much less run are enromous, something people don;t think about when they are just concentrating on your jiggle
 
2013-05-16 05:10:37 PM

Shazam999: Americans have forgotten how normal people look like.  I got into a stupid argument at another forum about this.  A guy who lost a whole bunch of weight but was still clearly around 15-20 lbs too heavy proudly declared how skinny he was, even though it was obvious that he had a bunch of fat on his waist that needed to go.


I've put some of the weight back on, since I've been lazy the last year. But even when I was 185 I could have lost about 20 more pounds of body fat. I really don't have a lot of muscle underneath all this lard. If I actually had muscle mass, I'd ideally be around 210.

I need to start cutting out carbs again; I lost all that weight just by keeping my carbs below 100g per day. Well, actually what I did was cut out refined sugars, starches, and most foods with processed carbs. I didn't even really exercise that much. Too much pizza and sweets the last year or so. :/
 
2013-05-16 05:19:26 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge? I'm 6' and usually weigh in between 180-200 depending on how much I pay attention to how much I eat and work out. When I start pushing up to 200 mark and my pants start getting tight so I start working out more and really watching what I eat. What is it that allows a person to eat themselves into a spherical shape?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some junk food and I can really pack it away. I'm no stranger to a late night $20 trip to Taco Bell, I just don't do it all the time.


For me it was just not caring what I ate, and I ate a lot of fast food. Just sitting around doing nothing also didn't help; I played a lot of WoW when I ballooned. I've always been over weight; I started getting my terrible body shape around age 10-11. Before that I was thin as a rail, and I couldn't put on weight. Most of my life I've been around 230-250. If I go above 220 I start feeling fat and go start trying to get back down to a comfortable size 36 pants. Pizza and beer is my greatest weakness now. :/
 
2013-05-16 05:29:56 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?


One other comment is that it's eminently harder when living with someone else.  My greatest successes were always when I lived alone.  I know that it's 1800 calories and biking at least 30 miles a week for me to hold the line (which is a painfully low BMR).  1900 and I gain weight.  When you live alone, you can count every gram, work out entirely on your own schedule, etc.

When I moved in with my average-midwestern wife, there'd be a pizza show up. She'd eat her half.  I could go and weigh my precise half-cup of brown rice and stirfry.  Or I could eat the other half of the pizza.  Far, far too easy to do the latter.
 
2013-05-16 05:33:03 PM
My god...he's full of stars...
 
2013-05-16 05:34:20 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The guy is trying to get healthy. Lets all point and laugh!!


This. Having lost 90lbs myself I can say that being huge and losing any significant weight is awesome. Congrats christie!
 
2013-05-16 05:43:20 PM

Lawnchair:  half-cup of brown rice and stirfry.


seriously?  that was your dinner?
 
2013-05-16 05:43:25 PM
I'm 5'8" 250lbs and he looks like at least 3 of me. Or maybe I'm just way bigger than I think.
 
2013-05-16 05:44:58 PM
I hate this guy, but good for him doing something to get healthier, even though I'm a bit cynical about his ultimate motives.
 
2013-05-16 05:47:02 PM
Calling Meow said the dog...
 
m00
2013-05-16 05:47:54 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


padlock the fridge
 
2013-05-16 05:48:27 PM
I'd vote for it.

/For the lulz
//The only reason to do anything
 
2013-05-16 05:50:22 PM

max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?


Kids, school, work, and other life obligations that make it hard to control what food you have around, limit how much time you have to work out, etc.
 
2013-05-16 05:51:06 PM

boyvoyeur: Corn_Fed: Simplest way to lose weight AND keep it off (which is much harder than losing it):

1) Keep eating ALL the same foods you've been eating. Swearing off entire food types (bread, pasta, burgers, whatever) won't work in the long-term. You'll eventually just end up craving them...and destroying your diet.

2) Order (or prepare) exactly what you would normally do. BUT...cut each item exactly in half, and just eat the half. (Ex. steak with mashed potatoes, and glass of wine. Eat half the steak, half the potatoes, half the glass of wine). Save the remaining half for next meal.

3) After completing the meal, drink a LARGE glass of water. Drink all of it. This will wash away all residual flavors in your mouth (which cause craving for snacks), and clarify how "full" you truly feel. This step is IMPORTANT!!

Help me! Four nights ago, I grilled a steak and a baked potato. I saved half of it for the next night. The third night, I'm down to 1/4 of a steak and 1/4 of a baked potato. I'm so hungry and it's hard to cut small pieces of steak and potato into halves again. I'M SO HUNGRY!!!


Xeno, that you?
 
m00
2013-05-16 05:52:06 PM

Gadflypaper: I've put some of the weight back on, since I've been lazy the last year. But even when I was 185 I could have lost about 20 more pounds of body fat. I really don't have a lot of muscle underneath all this lard. If I actually had muscle mass, I'd ideally be around 210.

I need to start cutting out carbs again; I lost all that weight just by keeping my carbs below 100g per day. Well, actually what I did was cut out refined sugars, starches, and most foods with processed carbs. I didn't even really exercise that much. Too much pizza and sweets the last year or so. :/


I recently lost about 40lbs. It was weight I had put on during 10 years of "office job." BEST piece of advice I can give is get into an "eating routine." Like, eat the same lunch every day. Have a light dinner. Pick something that tastes good + is healthy. For me, it's grilled chicken & garlic, veggies. As soon as you start making choices when you are hungry, that's when things go bad.
 
2013-05-16 05:53:29 PM
Look fatties, the first 3 days are hard. Suck it up. It gets better.

Try the rubber band trick for the first week or so. Snap it every, single, time, the thought to binge crosses your mind. Not eating, just binging thoughts.

Don't get caught without a decent snack.

Stop making excuses.
 
2013-05-16 05:56:35 PM

Rapmaster2000: You libs will be sorry in 3 years when Chris Christie really sits around the White House.


I'm a lib and I love Christie. I also would have voted for Huntsman if the Repubs weren't so insane that they forced out their best chance of winning.
 
2013-05-16 05:59:44 PM
Lessee:

Entered college at 240
Left Freshman year at 280
Entered Sophomore year at 240 (despite eating 4K calories a day all summer.  Golf course sucks for money and is great for losing weight)
Left sophomore year at 310, because I was getting about 20 hours of sleep a week between school and 2 jobs, and using food to make up for it (to the point of eating an entire family-sized bag of chips and a pint of ice cream as a midnight snack every night for a 4 month stretch).
Entered Junior year at 295
Left junior year at 300
Entered Senior semester at 290
Left senior semester at 300

Currently about 300, despite eating about a third of what I was eating during college (in exchange for not walking at ALL).  Mostly grains with some meat because veggies make me puke.

I recently started riding my bike (to the train) to work, and discovered that 4 years of sitting on your butt eating Tostitos means that you fall off the bike after about a mile.  Since it's about a mile and a half to the train station (and 4 miles to/from the bike shop), this is less useful than I had hoped.
 
2013-05-16 06:00:51 PM

DirkValentine: I would love to see a picture of what you look like.


www.piccer.nl

Faces have been obscured to protect the guilty.

Nutsac_Jim: 6" 0' 150 lbs. Some people are like that.................in Ethiopia.


Almost twice, I'm 73 kilograms which would be 161 lbs. At 150 pounds I'd still be at a BMI of 20.5, which would still be classified as "healthy." But if you'd prefer a more exact figure I'm willing to say that he is roughly 87% heavier.

humanshrapnel: Just look at all these grossly obese people: https://www.google.com/search?q=6%276+300+lbs&client=firefox-a&hs=msQ & rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HUGVUbjKJ- qSiQKcm4HABA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=920


... Let me guess, you are also a person who claims that BMI isn't a good predictor for most people because this one heavy duty athlete you know doesn't fit the curve? Most people who are 300 pounds, even at 6'6" are fat. Deal with it.

/Phelps ate 10.000 calories a day without getting fat so I should be able to do that as well
//Right?
 
2013-05-16 06:01:43 PM
My husband is a big guy. Big fat not big tall. He is 290. There is no way Christie is 300. He must be at least 400.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:03 PM

Ninja Otter: max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?

Kids, school, work, and other life obligations that make it hard to control what food you have around, limit how much time you have to work out, etc.


Horse hockey! Nothing but excuses. Do you not have control over your hands feeding your fat face? How long does it take to do 100 pushups during the day? What 10 minutes? Stop sitting on the throne for so long and you will have that 10 minutes plus, I'm sure.

What you can't drink water, because your life would be soooo dull? Or, is it that your don't have time to go down and pump from the well?

I never let myself get past a certain point, even when injured. Something just clicks in me and I'm making adjustments. Some of us don't understand how you fatties continue past that point. Obviously, there are "medical" exceptions.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:37 PM

Heathen: Lawnchair:  half-cup of brown rice and stirfry.

seriously?  that was your dinner?


Yeah, pretty much.  Again, 1800 kCal was 'hold the line' at my lightest.  Since I was still on the overweight/obese line at my lightest, I was eating less than that. Dieting. 1500ish.  And biking 10 miles or considerably more.  If I wanted to avoid a blackout bonk on the ride (it's happened a couple times... "I'm going to go lie in the grass now"... no bloody fun), I'd eat most of those calories earlier in the day.  So, yeah, a 400-500 calorie dinner around 6 and then absolutely no snacking after.  Also shivering in my room during summer and going to bed at 8:30.

This is dieting.  It is starvation.  There is no other term for 'fewer calories than needed' for months on end than starvation.   It makes my dad's nice sudden pulmonary embolism at 66 seem like a pretty acceptable option.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:51 PM

meyerkev: Lessee:

Entered college at 240
Left Freshman year at 280
Entered Sophomore year at 240 (despite eating 4K calories a day all summer.  Golf course sucks for money and is great for losing weight)
Left sophomore year at 310, because I was getting about 20 hours of sleep a week between school and 2 jobs, and using food to make up for it (to the point of eating an entire family-sized bag of chips and a pint of ice cream as a midnight snack every night for a 4 month stretch).
Entered Junior year at 295
Left junior year at 300
Entered Senior semester at 290
Left senior semester at 300

Currently about 300, despite eating about a third of what I was eating during college (in exchange for not walking at ALL).  Mostly grains with some meat because veggies make me puke.

I recently started riding my bike (to the train) to work, and discovered that 4 years of sitting on your butt eating Tostitos means that you fall off the bike after about a mile.  Since it's about a mile and a half to the train station (and 4 miles to/from the bike shop), this is less useful than I had hoped.


Fiber-poor diet. Fix that.
 
2013-05-16 06:08:40 PM

fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.


My girlfriend had this problem, fixed it with weird lucid dreaming exercises.  Kept a dream book and other things.  Basically it allowed her to wake herself up when it was happening.
 
2013-05-16 06:13:42 PM

DerAppie: DirkValentine: I would love to see a picture of what you look like.

[www.piccer.nl image 200x592]

Faces have been obscured to protect the guilty.

Nutsac_Jim: 6" 0' 150 lbs. Some people are like that.................in Ethiopia.

Almost twice, I'm 73 kilograms which would be 161 lbs. At 150 pounds I'd still be at a BMI of 20.5, which would still be classified as "healthy." But if you'd prefer a more exact figure I'm willing to say that he is roughly 87% heavier.

humanshrapnel: Just look at all these grossly obese people: https://www.google.com/search?q=6%276+300+lbs&client=firefox-a&hs=msQ & rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HUGVUbjKJ- qSiQKcm4HABA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=920

... Let me guess, you are also a person who claims that BMI isn't a good predictor for most people because this one heavy duty athlete you know doesn't fit the curve? Most people who are 300 pounds, even at 6'6" are fat. Deal with it.

/Phelps ate 10.000 calories a day without getting fat so I should be able to do that as well
//Right?


A pole dancer, eh?

I misread that as 6'2/150.  Still, 6'6/320 is not fat.  It's overweight a bit possibly.  My uncles are 6'6 & 6'7 and they are 280/300, and pretty thin.  Not overweightfor sure.

I'm 6'2/240 and while I could lose some weight, I still manage to bike at least 70 miles a week.

LARDO
 
2013-05-16 06:14:12 PM

Ninja Otter: max_pooper: I have a question for you fatties and former fatties: how and why did you let yourself get that huge?

Kids, school, work, and other life obligations that make it hard to control what food you have around, limit how much time you have to work out, etc.


Dad died when I was five and my little mind had no way of coping other than eating. Eventually food became my coping mechanism.

Lost myself in it. Regained control but I had to "grow up" first. (200lbs 6'0 now so a normal dude with a slightly smaller beer belly than many people I went to highschool with lol.)
 
2013-05-16 06:15:37 PM

Magorn: CheetahOlivetti: Coco LaFemme: CSS time:  I think Christie is a loud, obnoxious dickhead, but I can't snark on him for wanting to lose weight.  I think it's asinine that people in this country make fun of fat people for being fat, then make fun of them when they try to lose weight, either by hitting the gym or having a lap band/gastric bypass.  It's like, make up your goddamn minds, you little shiatheads.  There's this woman at the gym my boyfriend and I go to, and she's probably about 250-260 lbs.  Without fail, every time we'd go, there would be this one asshole making mooing noises at her when she was on the treadmill.  One day my boyfriend got pissed off and went over there and told him if he didn't shut the fark up, he'd be gumming his food.  Now, he is 5'7 and about 150 lbs, so not exactly Schwarzenegger, but the dude was sufficiently worried, so he shut up and left.  Haven't seen him back there since, though that woman is still there, plugging along.  We've seen her often enough that we've noticed she's lost weight, and she looks good.

So yeah, there's plenty to shiat on Christie about, but this isn't one of them.

As someone who has had people yell "Give it up fatty!" and even throw beer bottles at me while I was running, I thank you.

That's the one advantage fat guys have at the gym over fat girls.  At my buggest I work out every fricking day, so I got a lot of stares at the gym, and yeah I know at least one of the Moron Testosterone Choir (you know, the liftos who grunt and scream with ever rep) was perparing to say something  snide to me about "wasting my time" (I heard him say it to at least two women previously) because he wanted another turn on the machine I'd just gotten on.  He stopped mid-sentence however as I calmly added about 500lbs of weight to the machine from his last set (about 1K total).  See, that's the thing about getting close to the 400lb mark: the muscles you need just to walk around, much less run are enromous, something people don;t ...


I have to say, as a lifetime scrawny punk, I'm pretty jealous of former fat guys.  It'll take me the rest of my life to build up my legs to anything remotely respectable.  I wish someone would have told 15 year old me to just spend the next decade at around ~350lbs, then drop the weight.  Would have been simpler.

Also, were I not at work I'd be searching for the 'Kegelcizer' picture to accompany your story with a question mark.
 
2013-05-16 06:38:12 PM

DirkValentine: A pole dancer, eh?


Pole dancer? If only I was that limber. I'd lose a bending contest to a rake. That was during a drunken night out in town.

I misread that as 6'2/150. Still, 6'6/320 is not fat. It's overweight a bit possibly. My uncles are 6'6 & 6'7 and they are 280/300, and pretty thin. Not overweight for sure.

I'm 6'2/240 and while I could lose some weight, I still manage to bike at least 70 miles a week.

LARDO


If they are over 220 pounds it had better be a lot of muscle because otherwise they'd be quite comfortably in the obese category.
 
2013-05-16 07:24:15 PM

StoPPeRmobile: What 10 minutes? Stop sitting on the throne for so long and you will have that 10 minutes plus, I'm sure.


Are you seriously so delusional to think 10 minutes of exercise a day is the difference between fat and thin?

Just checked my log, I've done 30+ minutes on an elliptical every day this week, along with various weight machines, etc.

StoPPeRmobile: Obviously, there are "medical" exceptions.


See, here's the thing. We have hormones that trigger hunger. Some don't have strong hunger feelings, to the point they actually *can't* gain weight. I had a friend in high school bemoaning his thinness because he wanted to bulk up some for football, but couldn't. So if the absence of those hormones is such an obstacle to eating, is it that ridiculous to think the difference between many fat people and normalcy is an appetite hormone system that is out of whack? Do you tell smokers who want to quit, and alcoholics, "Geez, just put the cig/bottle down, it's not hard"?
 
2013-05-16 07:24:55 PM

elsuavio: fireclown: Since this is looking like a weight loss/why you're fat thread, I've got a question.  I wake up and eat bread at night, and it's keeping me from dropping the last 15 pounds.  I'm close to awake, but I can't quite seem to not eat.  It isn't like crazy ambien eating, usually two slices of white bread. I've had sleep evaluations, no dice.  I've tried drugs up to ambien, no dice.  Tried changing sleep hours, giving up caffine, literally gone to talk to the Buddhists on the mountaintop for meditation tips, no dice.

Any advice?  It's making me crazy.

My girlfriend had this problem, fixed it with weird lucid dreaming exercises.  Kept a dream book and other things.  Basically it allowed her to wake herself up when it was happening.




Try sugar-free candy instead for a bit.
 
2013-05-16 07:25:34 PM

Cagey B: pedobearapproved: Well he could be on the verge of/having problems that make it unsafe for him to be obese the YEARS it would take him to lose that weight naturally.

So he's on the verge of death from obesity? Man, now I really want to vote for him.


Are you stupid or a troll?  In case you're stupid verge of death is a lot different than is borderline diabetic, which would probably be his #1 concern. I would google it for you and put a link up, but you're probably struggling to think while still being able to use your mouth hole to gasp for air, so I won't cause you any stress.
 
2013-05-16 07:44:55 PM

mactheknife: [www.powerlineblog.com image 414x500]

Being a big guy (and one who resembles Christie at that), I wondered how tall he was so I could try and estimate his weight.  At my "pushing maximum density weight" I hit 333 lb. at 5'8", and looked about identical to what he does in this pic.  From that I extrapolate he was probably closing in on 375-400.

I don't like his politics or his party, but I say good for him for doing whatever he felt necessary for his health.  More power to him.


I'm about the same height (5'11") as Christie and that's a similar build to where I was at the start of this year, which was 394 lbs. I've dropped 70 lbs and 10 BMI points since then, but I'm still a big guy with quite some way to go. Dropping from high 300s to low 300s isn't as dramatic as, say, 250 down to 180.
 
2013-05-16 07:55:15 PM
you have pee hands: Lap band surgery isn't a magic bullet, it just takes the willpower out of keeping your diet in check. You can lose weight just as fast without it.

pounddawg: Here's what I don't get about lapband...You have this surgery (that could have many bad side effects) and then you have to follow this strict diet. Why not just skip the surgery and just do the strict diet with some moderate exercise?


The trick with the lapband is that you eat and completely fill up, to the point of eating more will make you sick, like vomit sick. There is no negative for eating more when you're on a strict diet other than staying fat. I have a friend that did lapband, and before he did it he was going to the gym everyday, eating way better than he ever had and he lost 50lbs in a year. When you're 320 lbs 50 is a lot but it's not enough to end your risk factors and when you slack off for a week or two because life happens and you gain back some weight it can kill your motivation.This guy got the lapband, has thrown down 120 lbs in a year. It's helped every aspect of his life.

You can lose weight as fast without it, if you went biggest loser style. But the chances of keeping it off over time are slim because you have to sustain the actions you were taking to get thin. Fat people have a different metabolism than people who have never been fat. While you or I could eat 2,300 calories and maintain 160 lbs a former fat person might gain weight from that ammount of food.

/I thought there would be more fat people on here, instead there are skinny people who don't seem to even know people that had a struggle with weight.
 
2013-05-16 08:40:32 PM

Ninja Otter: Some don't have strong hunger feelings, to the point they actually *can't* gain weight. I had a friend in high school bemoaning his thinness because he wanted to bulk up some for football, but couldn't. So if the absence of those hormones is such an obstacle to eating


It's not just 'lack of hunger feelings'.  Search out Sims' 1970's Vermont prisoner overfeeding studies.  He had normally-skinny prisoners overeat to study the mechanisms of obesity.  Two of his prisoners were eating 10,000 calories a day (these are prisoners... we know what they're eating and their exercise) who couldn't gain 15% of body mass.  They certainly 'weren't hungry' long before that, but they literally could not gain more weight.

Not to say that hunger hormones aren't a major component.  There are blood tests we can do already that will readily tell you, sight unseen, the difference between a Jared (fat guy keeping his weight down by commendable willpower, even after years) and someone of his exact same build who's never dieted a day in his life.
 
2013-05-16 09:22:35 PM

DerAppie: ... Let me guess, you are also a person who claims that BMI isn't a good predictor for most people because this one heavy duty athlete you know doesn't fit the curve? it doesn't account for muscle mass and was a formula derived no less than 260 years ago when many people suffered malnourishment during their adolescence and as a whole were smaller.  Most people who are 300 pounds, even at 6'6" are fat, which is a completely different term than 'grossly obese' which I mistakenly used in my original claim. Deal with it.


Dealt with.
 
2013-05-16 11:04:45 PM

Magorn: Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.

"starvation mode" is somewhat poorly understood by science but esentially, when you trip it, it's like flipping a switch that makes a car go from getting 20 mpg to one that gets 40.  We generally don't completely breakdown into useable energy all the caloriies we consume.   How mch of what we eat becomes useable body energy can vary based on a huge number of factors including, apparently, the species of bacteria that infests our guts.  To some extent this helps explain why one person can stuff their face to thier heart's content and never gain weight while another east a modest amount of food but still balloons up.  (meaning the next major famine that hits, you skinny biatches are toast and we fatties will be the only ones to make it through alive).   So yes, losing weight by  simply cutting caloric intake can be VERY difficult for some people (a situation that is exacerabted by the fact that easiest way to restrict calories is to eat low-fat foods, but many of the ones comercially availble try to replace the fat taste by boosting the sugar content, which causes insulin to send your body a signal to STORE fat not Burn it.)


None of the condescention there explains the impossibility of 'i work out every day and only eat one small meal'.

The rest of humanity gets thin when they do that. Fat americans just magically lock in at their weight, burn off the meal in the gym, and then defy physics the rest of the day. It is ridiculous.
 
2013-05-16 11:32:51 PM

Smackledorfer: Magorn: Smackledorfer: The Crepes of Wrath: Bravo Two: What's the biggest thing you did to drop that extra 40? I work out now, barely eat a meal a day, and still can't get below 290 at 6'3".

That's your problem right there.  Starving yourself isn't a good way to lose weight.

It isn't the healthiest way, nor it is it the most effective, but it is definitely effective. Frankly I don't believe people who pretend they barely eat anything while working out and still can't shed pounds.  Body's certainly do have a starvation mode, but that mode involves eating itself and, well, starving.  That means you don't get to maintain a fat weight while running a calorie deficit.

As far as the good governor goes, I seem to recall him claiming he was very healthy despite being a lardass so GET OFF HIS BACK a year or so ago.  Now he is losing weight for health reasons? I won't laugh at a fat person trying to lose weight, but I will mock anyone that is 100+ pounds overweight and lies about being healthy.

"starvation mode" is somewhat poorly understood by science but esentially, when you trip it, it's like flipping a switch that makes a car go from getting 20 mpg to one that gets 40.  We generally don't completely breakdown into useable energy all the caloriies we consume.   How mch of what we eat becomes useable body energy can vary based on a huge number of factors including, apparently, the species of bacteria that infests our guts.  To some extent this helps explain why one person can stuff their face to thier heart's content and never gain weight while another east a modest amount of food but still balloons up.  (meaning the next major famine that hits, you skinny biatches are toast and we fatties will be the only ones to make it through alive).   So yes, losing weight by  simply cutting caloric intake can be VERY difficult for some people (a situation that is exacerabted by the fact that easiest way to restrict calories is to eat low-fat foods, but many of the ones comercially availble try to replace the fat taste by boosting the sugar content, which causes insulin to send your body a signal to STORE fat not Burn it.)

None of the condescention there explains the impossibility of 'i work out every day and only eat one small meal'.

The rest of humanity gets thin when they do that. Fat americans just magically lock in at their weight, burn off the meal in the gym, and then defy physics the rest of the day. It is ridiculous.


Fatties who claim to eat a low calorie diet and excercise all the time are liars. The laws of thermodynamics are not violated by the human body.
 
2013-05-16 11:59:05 PM

max_pooper: Fatties who claim to eat a low calorie diet and excercise all the time are liars. The laws of thermodynamics are not violated by the human body.


Here's what I ate yesterday. My diet is quite banana heavy, but it's been doing the job for me.

Breakfast: 1 serving muesli (45 grams), 2 slices wholemeal toast with Marmite, banana, cup of tea (milk, no sugar)
Morning tea: Earl Grey, hot
Lunch: 1 wholemeal wrap, lettuce, mustard, slice of ham, banana, low-fat yogurt, cup of tea
Afternoon tea: Apple, cup of tea
Dinner: 150 grams lean stir-fry pork, 1 1/2 cups stir-fry vegetables, sweet and sour sauce, 1 banana, 1 litre of sparkling water to enjoy through the evening.

Breakfast and lunch are usually the same for me every day. When I'm not having stir-fries, I have a serving of red meat, chicken, or fish (150 grams) + 125 grams mashed potatoes (I use the frozen ones and put them in the microwave), 100 grams of peas with black pepper to taste + 8-10 small brussels sprouts (roasted or sauteed, depending on how I'm cooking the meat). I find the kitchen scales are just as important ast the bathroom scales when it comes to losing weight.

It's a boring diet, but it's filling and, like I said, I've gone from 394 lbs (178.8 kg) to 324 (147 kg) since the start of the year my BMI has gone from 56.4 to 46.4. The last time I had my blood pressure checked it was 125/80. I only get hungry now as meal times approach. I haven't started an exercise programme yet, I'm keeping that in reserve for when my weight loss slows down.
 
2013-05-17 11:50:06 AM
Want to know the secret to loosing weight?  Come here..Ill tell ya, Believe it or not, its been around for about 50 years............Weight Watchers. Now before you start laughing at me because I am a guy who is doing a "chick diet" I wil tell you that I have lost 36lbs in 17 weeks.  Their smartphone app makes tracking and all of the other parts of the program a breeze. Of course I do cardio (exercise bike for 35minutes with a target heart rate of 140) 3 times a week which also helps.  I have to tell you that they make it so easy that if an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.  The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification. There is none of this  no carb, high fat can only eat certain colored veggies stuff.  You can have anything you want, even beer.  However, you have to stay within your daily / weekly points budget and they teach you how to do it.  Its not easy, especially the first few weeks, but if I can do it, anyone can
 
2013-05-17 11:55:35 AM

emt92339: Want to know the secret to loosing weight?  Come here..Ill tell ya, Believe it or not, its been around for about 50 years............Weight Watchers. Now before you start laughing at me because I am a guy who is doing a "chick diet" I wil tell you that I have lost 36lbs in 17 weeks.  Their smartphone app makes tracking and all of the other parts of the program a breeze. Of course I do cardio (exercise bike for 35minutes with a target heart rate of 140) 3 times a week which also helps.  I have to tell you that they make it so easy that if an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.  The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification. There is none of this  no carb, high fat can only eat certain colored veggies stuff.  You can have anything you want, even beer.  However, you have to stay within your daily / weekly points budget and they teach you how to do it.  Its not easy, especially the first few weeks, but if I can do it, anyone can


Laugh at you because of a "chick" diet? No.

Laugh at you because you are paying them to teach you the things a single book could have given you (or even a couple of internet articles), and the rest of their point system is you paying them to avoid doing the only slightly more difficult math of looking at calorie counts yourself?

Also, the system of not eating too much and doing moderate exercise is one hell of a lot older than fifty years.  farking hilarious you present the staying power of weight watchers as evidence that it is good :D
 
2013-05-17 12:09:37 PM

Smackledorfer: Laugh at you because you are paying them to teach you the things a single book could have given you (or even a couple of internet articles), and the rest of their point system is you paying them to avoid doing the only slightly more difficult math of looking at calorie counts yourself?


You don't pay for the knowledge on Weight Watchers.  Nothing that isn't public domain.

You pay for someone to pretend like they care.  The support group and accountability aspect.

Nobody but you will notice whether you're 20 pounds up or down.  Politeness says they won't say anything for a long time after that.  A few people will brag on Facebook, but that's a bore and a quick way to the ignore button.  And, with a lot of haters, when you're still fat, "I've lost 20 pounds" is immediately rejoined with "why would you brag when you need to lose another 80".

It's not just a 'chick' thing to need to tell somebody... ANYBODY... that you've done X when it's been a struggle for you and nobody else gives a poop.  So, you pay somebody to care.  Somebody besides yourself to write it down in a little chart.  It works for a lot of people.
 
2013-05-17 12:29:42 PM

Lawnchair: You don't pay for the knowledge on Weight Watchers.  Nothing that isn't public domain.


He specifically said he does.

emt92339: The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification.


Lawnchair: It works for a lot of people.


Fine, you are paying for friends who aren't assholes and can give you a high-five when you accomplish something?

Because you ought to be looking for that outside of WW anyways.
 
2013-05-17 03:01:30 PM

Smackledorfer: emt92339: Want to know the secret to loosing weight?  Come here..Ill tell ya, Believe it or not, its been around for about 50 years............Weight Watchers. Now before you start laughing at me because I am a guy who is doing a "chick diet" I wil tell you that I have lost 36lbs in 17 weeks.  Their smartphone app makes tracking and all of the other parts of the program a breeze. Of course I do cardio (exercise bike for 35minutes with a target heart rate of 140) 3 times a week which also helps.  I have to tell you that they make it so easy that if an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.  The biggest thing they teach is basic behavior modification. There is none of this  no carb, high fat can only eat certain colored veggies stuff.  You can have anything you want, even beer.  However, you have to stay within your daily / weekly points budget and they teach you how to do it.  Its not easy, especially the first few weeks, but if I can do it, anyone can

Laugh at you because of a "chick" diet? No.

Laugh at you because you are paying them to teach you the things a single book could have given you (or even a couple of internet articles), and the rest of their point system is you paying them to avoid doing the only slightly more difficult math of looking at calorie counts yourself?

Also, the system of not eating too much and doing moderate exercise is one hell of a lot older than fifty years.  farking hilarious you present the staying power of weight watchers as evidence that it is good :D


Wow the bitterness is strong with this one.  However I am not going to feed the trolls today.
 
2013-05-17 03:06:15 PM

emt92339: Wow the bitterness is strong with this one.  However I am not going to feed the trolls today.


I'm curious, is there any way in which I could disagree with your points about why weight watchers is so great without you considering me a bitter troll?

I may have been heavy on the snark, but you were equally heavy on the kool-aid, imo.
 
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