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2013-05-16 11:46:58 AM
Link isn't working for me.
 
2013-05-16 11:53:34 AM
 
2013-05-16 11:54:55 AM
I guess a working website ain't one of them.
 
2013-05-16 12:29:23 PM

TheHighlandHowler: me neither, but don't waste your time.

http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/101238/10-Star-Trek-Technologies -T hat-are-Almost-Here#slide12


Don't waste your time with that, either.  Deslidefied
 
2013-05-16 12:31:23 PM
Also, don't forget transparent aluminum which is actually already here.
 
2013-05-16 01:44:16 PM
That was incredibly dumb.
 
2013-05-16 01:49:56 PM
Well that was farking stupid. Maybe 3 of those things are anywhere close to being practical or even possible.
 
2013-05-16 01:53:13 PM
When I saw that #1 was the Warp Drive, I stopped.  Seriously, almost there with the Warp Drive?  The article writer is a double dumb-@ss.
 
2013-05-16 01:57:11 PM
Is Fark getting paid to post a bunch of Star Trek links?
 
2013-05-16 02:00:34 PM

timujin: Also, don't forget transparent aluminum which is actually already here.


Hadn't seen that. Cool.
 
2013-05-16 02:09:41 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-16 02:11:00 PM
Star Trek triple play in the Geek tab, complete.
 
2013-05-16 02:15:34 PM
Unlike any of the items in the slideshow, the CommBadge is only a couple months from shipping.
 
2013-05-16 02:20:22 PM
I assume "she's gonna blow" refers to the article, or the fact that it's a slideshow.
 
2013-05-16 02:20:50 PM
I always liked that bulky Space:1999 commlock...  Not much different than a cell phone with video conf capability..
 
2013-05-16 02:21:22 PM
Having your atoms scrambled in one location and reassembled elsewhere

would be nice, but that's not how transporters work.
 
2013-05-16 02:23:57 PM
11.) Control panels whose normal failure mode is spray sparks everywhere but otherwise continue functioning.
12.) Computers which explode when presented with a paradox.
 
2013-05-16 02:31:12 PM
I got to the part where he said Google Glass is like LaForge's VISOR and stopped. Grade-A stupid right there.
 
2013-05-16 02:35:15 PM
I can't believe they didn't mention IPads. Frikin' IPad is a direct ripoff of the PADD devices they use in StarFleet.

Yet another reason I HATE Abrams Trek. They don't even TRY to extrapolate any technology. Just a goddam, empty headed shoot 'em up movie....
 
2013-05-16 02:37:11 PM

DamnYankees: Link isn't working for me.


That's Ok. Warp drives, Holodecks, transporters and sentient androids are not almost here anyway.

/where the hell are my green slave girls damnit?
 
2013-05-16 02:40:30 PM
Once easily washable holodecks become available innovation will come to a stand still
 
2013-05-16 02:48:06 PM

PsyLord: When I saw that #1 was the Warp Drive, I stopped.  Seriously, almost there with the Warp Drive?  The article writer is a double dumb-@ss.


Could happen 500 years from now after lots of painstaking incremental research. Could happen tomorrow in some RA's lab. A warp drive is the kind of thing that can be discovered by sheer dumb luck.
 
2013-05-16 02:48:29 PM

mark12A: I can't believe they didn't mention IPads. Frikin' IPad is a direct ripoff of the PADD devices they use in StarFleet.

Yet another reason I HATE Abrams Trek. They don't even TRY to extrapolate any technology. Just a goddam, empty headed shoot 'em up movie....


Yup, Gene made sure to get cutting edge science advisors to work for him coming up with the gadgets.  Hell, most people don't realize that at the time Worf or Picard would tell the computer to play them some Klingon Opera or flute music, the idea of storing music on computers that you could call up at will was science fiction.  The first commercial electronic music player was from Audible.com in '97, TNG had characters calling up whatever they wanted back in 1987.

Hell, TOS had floppy disks back in the 60's when they wouldn't become actual computer storage devices until the 90's (talking about 3.5's here).
 
2013-05-16 02:52:36 PM

ShawnDoc: That was incredibly dumb.


Is that sarcasm or are you really saying that?  If you are serious, I'm curious as to what you are referring as dumb, specifically.

There were some seriously common items on the web page, plus, having a slideshow with an ad in the middle was annoying so I can definitely see what you mean there, but if you mean the science, could you explain more as to why it's dumb?

Thanks.
 
2013-05-16 02:52:49 PM

fluffy2097: DamnYankees: Link isn't working for me.

That's Ok. Warp drives, Holodecks, transporters and sentient androids are not almost here anyway.

/where the hell are my green slave girls damnit?


I know! Forget flying cars, where are the green Yvonne Craig's?
 
2013-05-16 02:56:12 PM

metallion: I always liked that bulky Space:1999 commlock...  Not much different than a cell phone with video conf capability..


I used to make a pretend one of those with LEGO blocks when I was a kid.

/ Still in love with Helena...
 
2013-05-16 02:58:01 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: PsyLord: When I saw that #1 was the Warp Drive, I stopped.  Seriously, almost there with the Warp Drive?  The article writer is a double dumb-@ss.

Could happen 500 years from now after lots of painstaking incremental research. Could happen tomorrow in some RA's lab. A warp drive is the kind of thing that can be discovered by sheer dumb luck.


Well, there is a *theoretical* warp drive that the math works out for. The problems are

A) It requires an exotic form of matter that we're *NOT SURE EXISTS YET*.

B) It requires the mass-energy of the voyager probe. (This is an improvement: The initial one required the mass-energy *of Jupiter*)

C) It kind of kills everything in front of it when you stop it (massive gamma ray burst). So you'd have to (if you could ever actually build and fuel one) sort of.. point it *parallel* to your intended destination, stop a ways out, then putter in at sublight speeds.
 
2013-05-16 02:58:09 PM

MFAWG: I know! Forget flying cars, where are the green Yvonne Craig's?


Hell, I'll settle for a beautiful young yeoman even.

/TOS uniforms were the best uniforms
//Those skirts...
 
2013-05-16 02:58:13 PM
How close are we to black women telephone operators?
 
2013-05-16 03:00:46 PM

Felgraf: B) It requires the mass-energy of the voyager probe. (This is an improvement: The initial one required the mass-energy *of Jupiter*)


You should be clear.  "mass-energy" means "if I was to take all the energy in the amount of matter used in the voyager probe, and were to extract ALL of it. Not some, not most, not 99.999% ALL of it, into pure energy."

The mass-energy of the voyager probe would have an explosive power much greater then a thermonuclear bomb if released at once.
 
2013-05-16 03:01:34 PM
24.media.tumblr.com


/ I'll be in my holo-bunk
 
2013-05-16 03:03:31 PM

MFAWG: fluffy2097: DamnYankees: Link isn't working for me.

That's Ok. Warp drives, Holodecks, transporters and sentient androids are not almost here anyway.

/where the hell are my green slave girls damnit?

I know! Forget flying cars, where are the green Yvonne Craig's?


Y'all can have the green chicks (even a green Batgirl). I'll take Alice Eve in her regulation Star Fleet undies.

Based on that scene though (and the one with Rachel Nichols in the first one {I totally changed my mind about the green chicks!}), it looks as if bra technology doesn't get any better in the next couple of hundred years.
 
2013-05-16 03:05:07 PM
1. Take scientific discovery that kinda sounds sorta like something in star trek

2. Extrapolate wildly about how it might be used in the future

3. Ta-daa! Shiatty slideshow
 
2013-05-16 03:07:30 PM

fluffy2097: Felgraf: B) It requires the mass-energy of the voyager probe. (This is an improvement: The initial one required the mass-energy *of Jupiter*)

You should be clear.  "mass-energy" means "if I was to take all the energy in the amount of matter used in the voyager probe, and were to extract ALL of it. Not some, not most, not 99.999% ALL of it, into pure energy."

The mass-energy of the voyager probe would have an explosive power much greater then a thermonuclear bomb if released at once.


That was what I meant.  As in, last I checked, the energy requirement to power/utilize an alcubierre drive is,in theory, MVoyagerc2 U.

Which is still better than the initial calculations of mJUPITERc2
Plus the whole "Requires exotic matter we are not sure currently exists."
 
2013-05-16 03:07:37 PM

roughridersfan: metallion: I always liked that bulky Space:1999 commlock...  Not much different than a cell phone with video conf capability..

I used to make a pretend one of those with LEGO blocks when I was a kid.

/ Still in love with Helena...


Me too... Both counts.   Especially Season 2 Helena...  and Maya...  ahhhhh....

Had blue legos, and the clear ones for the screen...  Couldn't build a beltloop for it worth a fark... :)
 
2013-05-16 03:08:17 PM

fluffy2097: DamnYankees: Link isn't working for me.

That's Ok. Warp drives, Holodecks, transporters and sentient androids are not almost here anyway.

/where the hell are my green slave girls damnit?


Holodecks: You might want to check out some stuff my friend Adrian has been up to. I met him back in 2005-2007. I can link to his twitter. Watch some of the video links he has on there. Pretty neat shiat. Adrian Bulzacki
 
2013-05-16 03:08:47 PM
No way is teleporting more than a quantum particle "almost here." And even if it was, I'd never do it. No one stops to think that the people in Star Trek die every time they use a teleporter, and are replaced with an exact copy of themselves at the other end.
 
2013-05-16 03:11:08 PM

Celerian: fluffy2097: DamnYankees: Link isn't working for me.

That's Ok. Warp drives, Holodecks, transporters and sentient androids are not almost here anyway.

/where the hell are my green slave girls damnit?

Holodecks: You might want to check out some stuff my friend Adrian has been up to. I met him back in 2005-2007. I can link to his twitter. Watch some of the video links he has on there. Pretty neat shiat. Adrian Bulzacki


Also: Adrian at TED speaking about "Monotizing the Holodeck"
 
2013-05-16 03:12:53 PM
Getting a kick since the fiancé and I just watched Encounter at Farpoint last night. Had a cool moment when I looked at what Doctor Crusher was holding, and then realized I was watching the show on the same damn thing (iPad).

It's like watching West Wing also. You watch the show and go, "Wow, humans will never change" while simultaneously going, "Yup, we settled that one already."
 
2013-05-16 03:13:05 PM

WhoGAS: Is that sarcasm or are you really saying that? If you are serious, I'm curious as to what you are referring as dumb, specifically.


Nothing on that list is "almost here".  For the most part they're comparing Star Trek technologies to things that only superficially resemble them.  Yes, projecting a video on a human shaped piece of glass means that full range 3D holograms that can manipulate matter like in Star Trek are just around the corner!  Using Quantum Entanglement to transmit a tiny amount of data across 3' of open space means teleporting a human being miles away and through through obstructions is just around the corner.

Stupid.
 
2013-05-16 03:14:30 PM
Ah damnit I have an extraneous U in the first equation. That's a typo, please ignore.
 
2013-05-16 03:14:38 PM
Let's not forget the ion-drive space craft. From Spock's Brain to reality.
 
2013-05-16 03:15:47 PM

Tommy Moo: No way is teleporting more than a quantum particle "almost here." And even if it was, I'd never do it. No one stops to think that the people in Star Trek die every time they use a teleporter, and are replaced with an exact copy of themselves at the other end.


There was a story in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine in either '79 or early '80, about teleport technology.  Can't remember the name.

It opens with the inventer of the technology watching people getting in and out of the transports.  She meets a young boy who has teleported everywhere, and she has a couple of flashbacks.

One is creating the technology, and two, is how to solve the fact that it's not truly teleport tech as much as it is copy tech.  When you teleport, your dna/body stats are read, and then you are electrocuted with enough voltage to turn you to ash, and the data is transmitted to the destination, where you are rebuilt.

She is afraid that if she teleports, she'll lose her soul.

It ends up with the kid picking her up, and tossing her into the teleporter, and when she rematerilizes, she realizes that it isn't that bad.

It's been a long time since I read that, but it was a fun read.
 
2013-05-16 03:17:34 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: PsyLord: When I saw that #1 was the Warp Drive, I stopped.  Seriously, almost there with the Warp Drive?  The article writer is a double dumb-@ss.

Could happen 500 years from now after lots of painstaking incremental research. Could happen tomorrow in some RA's lab. A warp drive is the kind of thing that can be discovered by sheer dumb luck.


Yeah, I hate to be anywhere close when he accidentally the whole thing and nukes the world since according to the latest ideas, when the warp bubble collapses, it obliterates all matter in front of it.
 
2013-05-16 03:18:10 PM
Warp Drive, teleporters, are not only not almost here, they violate the laws of physics as we know them. Just because something might be possible maybe with an almost infinite amount of energy or some kind of new physics that has not been discovered does not mean that it is "almost here".
 
2013-05-16 03:20:07 PM

ShawnDoc: WhoGAS: Is that sarcasm or are you really saying that? If you are serious, I'm curious as to what you are referring as dumb, specifically.

Nothing on that list is "almost here".  For the most part they're comparing Star Trek technologies to things that only superficially resemble them.  Yes, projecting a video on a human shaped piece of glass means that full range 3D holograms that can manipulate matter like in Star Trek are just around the corner!  Using Quantum Entanglement to transmit a tiny amount of data across 3' of open space means teleporting a human being miles away and through through obstructions is just around the corner.

Stupid.


Ahhh.  Okay.  I see you take offense at the assumption of "almost here" meaning "few years/within our lifetime".

I didn't take it that way myself.  I assumed "almost here" on a more geological time scale where 150 years is pretty much no time at all.

I can see your point.
 
2013-05-16 03:25:51 PM
Every time I walk up to an automatic door without slowing down and it opens for me, I think of those scenes of Kirk walking around the Enterprise.
 
2013-05-16 03:35:44 PM
I just wish automatic doors would make that cool sound.. :)
 
2013-05-16 03:41:47 PM

WhoGAS: I didn't take it that way myself. I assumed "almost here" on a more geological time scale where 150 years is pretty much no time at all.


What do you do for a living, that when someone says something is "almost here", you think of a amount of time greater than your lifespan?
 
2013-05-16 03:47:10 PM

Edymnion: mark12A: I can't believe they didn't mention IPads. Frikin' IPad is a direct ripoff of the PADD devices they use in StarFleet.

Yet another reason I HATE Abrams Trek. They don't even TRY to extrapolate any technology. Just a goddam, empty headed shoot 'em up movie....

Yup, Gene made sure to get cutting edge science advisors to work for him coming up with the gadgets.  Hell, most people don't realize that at the time Worf or Picard would tell the computer to play them some Klingon Opera or flute music, the idea of storing music on computers that you could call up at will was science fiction.  The first commercial electronic music player was from Audible.com in '97, TNG had characters calling up whatever they wanted back in 1987.

Hell, TOS had floppy disks back in the 60's when they wouldn't become actual computer storage devices until the 90's (talking about 3.5's here).


Gene also made Star Trek incredibly boring.  Which is why he was removed from any meaningful role after the first movie.
 
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