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(Daily Mail)   David "Homewrecker" Petraeus strongly objected to the White House version of Benghazi, monogamy   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 84
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2013-05-16 09:32:55 AM
Infidelity is unimportant! Unless of course it can benefit your side politically.
 
2013-05-16 09:33:10 AM
Hot potato
Hot potato
 
2013-05-16 09:33:11 AM
We in the White House were only going by what we told the CIA to tell us.
 
2013-05-16 09:34:01 AM
darn you subby. you made me laugh. infidelity is bad and you should feel bad.
 
2013-05-16 09:35:42 AM
Because they didn't make the direct connection to Cairo...

'No mention of the cable to Cairo, either?' Petraeus wrote after receiving Morell's edited version, developed after an intense back-and-forth among Obama administration officials.

'Frankly, I'd just as soon not use this, then.'


Classic case of a misleading headline and burying the lede.
 
2013-05-16 09:38:27 AM
All of these politics links spilling onto the main page today is like seeing someone take a dump onto The Scream: a reckless waste of effort and only mildly arousing.
 
2013-05-16 09:38:53 AM
Clearly they set him up with floozies to discredit him.  How deep does the conspiracy go!?
 
2013-05-16 09:39:02 AM

JerseyTim: Because they didn't make the direct connection to Cairo...

'No mention of the cable to Cairo, either?' Petraeus wrote after receiving Morell's edited version, developed after an intense back-and-forth among Obama administration officials.

'Frankly, I'd just as soon not use this, then.'

Classic case of a misleading headline and burying the lede.


I've read it twice, and the only thing I see that got buried was Petraeus wiener.
 
2013-05-16 09:39:55 AM
Is Subby Petraeus' wife? Why so bitter?
 
2013-05-16 09:43:19 AM
Benghazi was a plot by high level liberals to discredit Obama after years of tricking them into voting for him.
 
2013-05-16 09:44:08 AM

Hoboclown: Is Subby Petraeus' wife? Why so bitter?


cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2013-05-16 09:44:29 AM
This administration is too open, if anything, they should have used a bunch of DNC or yahoo email accounts for all the Benghazi stuff, then lost all the records, backups, and/or accidentally destroyed the hard drives and servers.
 
2013-05-16 09:44:29 AM
[IsBenghaziAScandalYet.jpg]
 
2013-05-16 09:44:35 AM
So they might have had limited intelligence of something about to happen which they failed to act upon? Let's do the time warp again....
 
2013-05-16 09:46:04 AM

Hoboclown: Is Subby Petraeus' wife? Why so bitter?


Subby isn't bitter, just desperately looking for some distraction from difficult facts.
 
2013-05-16 09:50:22 AM
Nice to get the blatant ad hominem attack out of the way right in the headline.  Well done.
 
2013-05-16 09:51:06 AM

sxacho: This administration is too open, if anything, they should have used a bunch of DNC or yahoo email accounts for all the Benghazi stuff, then lost all the records, backups, and/or accidentally destroyed the hard drives and servers.


Please don't consider yourself a Democrat.  Or a Republican, for that matter.
 
2013-05-16 09:51:15 AM
Wait, this isn't supposed to be a scandle. It's all supposed to be made up by the Republicans!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE SCREWING UP THE FARK NARRATIVE!!!
 
2013-05-16 09:51:28 AM
Pardon me for opening this can of worms.  But I really do not exactly understand what happened in Benghazi.  This is what I think I get about what happened.

-  A bunch of people stormed the US embassy and 4 people got killed.
-  Lots of people started asking questions about how something like that could happen.
-  The US gov't (whatever branch) officially declared that the whole incident was a riot, that got out of control, and was directly related to what was going on in Egypt.  This turned out to not be true at all.
-  There were possible security breaches and warnings that should not have been ignored.
-  There was a military team in the area that could have helped but they were told to go elsewhere, because they couldn't do both operations at once.

I think I've got this right.  But I also think I can't possibly have it right if people are still blabbing on about it.
If anyone has some clearer insight on the points I just listed here, then please clarify.
 
2013-05-16 09:56:10 AM

durbnpoisn: Pardon me for opening this can of worms.  But I really do not exactly understand what happened in Benghazi.


There was terrorist attack. People died. There was confusion on who did it and that confusion was broadcast on Sunday talk shows. Then Darrell Issa is trying to use the deaths of four Americans to raise his power level in the Republican party in hopes of being Speaker one day.
 
2013-05-16 09:56:39 AM

FLMountainMan: sxacho: This administration is too open, if anything, they should have used a bunch of DNC or yahoo email accounts for all the Benghazi stuff, then lost all the records, backups, and/or accidentally destroyed the hard drives and servers.

Please don't consider yourself a Democrat.  Or a Republican, for that matter.


OK, since you asked nicely.
 
2013-05-16 09:59:35 AM
Between 1982 and 1986, there were 36 suicide attacks in Lebanon directed against American, French and Israelis forces by 41 individuals, killing 659. [34] Hezbollah denies involvement in any attack, though it has been accused of some or all of these attacks: [132][133][134]

The 1982-1983 Tyre headquarters bombings The April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing (by the Islamic Jihad Organization), [135]

The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing (by the Islamic Jihad Organization), that killed 241 U.S. marines, 58 French paratroopers and 6 civilians at the US and French barracks in Beirut [136]

A spate of attacks on IDF troops and SLA militiamen in southern Lebanon. [34]

Hijacking of TWA Flight 847 in 1985, [136]

The Lebanon hostage crisis from 1982 to 1992. [137]

_--------------_


The Iran-Contra affair (Persian: ﺍﯾﺮﺍﻥ-ﮐﻨﺘﺮﺍ, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate, Contragate or the Iran-Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that came to light in November 1986. During the Reagan administration, senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, the subject of an arms embargo. [1]
 
2013-05-16 10:04:21 AM

Lawyers With Nukes: Wait, this isn't supposed to be a scandle. It's all supposed to be made up by the Republicans!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE SCREWING UP THE FARK NARRATIVE!!!


It's still not a scandal
 
2013-05-16 10:05:47 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-16 10:08:21 AM

Outrageous Muff: durbnpoisn: Pardon me for opening this can of worms.  But I really do not exactly understand what happened in Benghazi.

There was terrorist attack. People died. There was confusion on who did it and that confusion was broadcast on Sunday talk shows. Then Darrell Issa is trying to use the deaths of four Americans to raise his power level in the Republican party in hopes of being Speaker one day.


I seriously hope it's not as simple as that.  That's just farked up.
 
2013-05-16 10:11:30 AM

durbnpoisn: I seriously hope it's not as simple as that.  That's just farked up.


It is that simple. Plus it's attempt to convince Hillary Clinton not to run in 2016, but mostly to make Darrell Issa more powerful.
 
2013-05-16 10:20:04 AM

Outrageous Muff: durbnpoisn: I seriously hope it's not as simple as that.  That's just farked up.

It is that simple. Plus it's attempt to convince Hillary Clinton not to run in 2016, but mostly to make Darrell Issa more powerful.


Correct me if I'm wrong: Issa represents Duke Cunningham's old district?
 
2013-05-16 10:25:25 AM
I don't know why, but I really kind of wonder what politics would have been like back in the middle ages when 'killing the messenger' wasn't just a pithy saying.  Diplomacy with people we hate has always been a tough issue.  Pretty much every single consulate in places that don't like us requests more security and gets threats.  Over the years a lot of diplomats have been killed.  Not sure what to say about it, other than I still don't see the supposed scandal.
 
2013-05-16 10:28:18 AM

berylman: So they might have had limited intelligence of something about to happen which they failed to act upon? Let's do the time warp again....


Wasn't the same thing said by libbies/proggies about 9/11?

Just asking questions here....
 
2013-05-16 10:31:32 AM
So Petraeus was upset they weren't tying it MORE strongly to the Cairo protests? The Cairo protests that Republicans are upset the talking points mentioned?

And this is deepening the scandal?
 
2013-05-16 10:31:32 AM

21-7-b: Between 1982 and 1986, there were 36 suicide attacks in Lebanon directed against American, French and Israelis forces by 41 individuals, killing 659. [34] Hezbollah denies involvement in any attack, though it has been accused of some or all of these attacks: [132][133][134]

The 1982-1983 Tyre headquarters bombings The April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing (by the Islamic Jihad Organization), [135]

The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing (by the Islamic Jihad Organization), that killed 241 U.S. marines, 58 French paratroopers and 6 civilians at the US and French barracks in Beirut [136]

A spate of attacks on IDF troops and SLA militiamen in southern Lebanon. [34]

Hijacking of TWA Flight 847 in 1985, [136]

The Lebanon hostage crisis from 1982 to 1992. [137]

_--------------_


The Iran-Contra affair (Persian: ﺍﯾﺮﺍﻥ-ﮐﻨﺘﺮﺍ, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate, Contragate or the Iran-Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that came to light in November 1986. During the Reagan administration, senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, the subject of an arms embargo. [1]


??? You DO have a point with all this (including the pretentiousness in the last paragraph), right?
 
2013-05-16 10:34:50 AM
So... Libbies/proggies condemned the Republican obsession with Oval Office blowjobs but use the same ad hominem argument against the Republicans when it suits them? Oh, wait, it's about hypocrisy, right? Careful kids, this could get meta very quickly.
 
2013-05-16 10:37:39 AM
Oh, heavens! One bureaucrat objected to the ass-covering talking points of another bureaucrat, because they were pointing fingers of blame at one another. INPEACH!

/Seriously, this is standard SOP in crisis communications. It's not a scandal, it's not illegal, it's just how the process works. Google "talking points" to learn more.
 
2013-05-16 10:38:25 AM
"Petraeus strongly objected to the White House version of [...] monogamy"

Even he wishes for the days of Clinton as president...
 
2013-05-16 10:44:18 AM

mbillips: Oh, heavens! One bureaucrat objected to the ass-covering talking points of another bureaucrat, because they were pointing fingers of blame at one another. INPEACH!

/Seriously, this is standard SOP in crisis communications. It's not a scandal, it's not illegal, it's just how the process works. Google "talking points" to learn more.


They've somehow managed to convince themselves that this cost RMoney the election, when in fact his loss was really never in doubt.
 
2013-05-16 10:46:00 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: So... Libbies/proggies condemned the Republican obsession with Oval Office blowjobs but use the same ad hominem argument against the Republicans when it suits them? Oh, wait, it's about hypocrisy, right? Careful kids, this could get meta very quickly.


I don't remember anyone condemning Ken Starr, just laughing at him at what a giant waste of time and resources it was to investigate a stained blue dress and a cigar.

Tell me again, what is the scandal around Benghazi? It's just manufactured outrage.
 
2013-05-16 10:46:31 AM
with all the butthurt that someone made a joke about monogamy here I think the real question is where is all the right wing outrage of infidelity that was right out in front for Clinton?
 
2013-05-16 10:46:35 AM
So it's a scandal now?
 
2013-05-16 10:50:28 AM
But that wasn't sex sex.
 
2013-05-16 10:54:52 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: So... Libbies/proggies condemned the Republican obsession with Oval Office blowjobs but use the same ad hominem argument against the Republicans when it suits them?


Patraeus is not a politician. He had been mentioned as possibly running for office as a Republican, but otherwise his politics are a mystery. And lots of people of all political stripes make jokes about Clinton's straying, we just don't think it (or lying about it to try to save him and his family from embarrassment) was an impeachable offense.
 
2013-05-16 10:55:04 AM

jjorsett: Hoboclown: Is Subby Petraeus' wife? Why so bitter?

Subby isn't bitter, just desperately looking for some distraction from difficult facts.


What facts are so difficult? Here's the "scandal," as I can gather it between the episodes of hyperventilating and frothing at the mouth from the people who think it's a scandal.

1. The Libyan consulate was attacked, after the CIA warned there was going to be a demonstration about that jerkoff Mohammed video. Other embassies were besieged by demonstrators on the same topic. The attack started a fire, and the ambassador and somebody else died of smoke inhalation.
2. A couple hours later, some more people at the consulate were killed in a mortar attack. There was some back and forth about sending in Delta Force in that interim, which was nixed by the military because the tactical picture was too fuzzy, and they didn't have transport available on that short notice.
3. The administration's PR wienies staffed talking points about what happened, decided to downplay calling it an Al Qaeda attack because they really didn't know who did it, and kept in the part about a demonstration because that wasn't totally clear, either. Susan Rice went on the teevee and read the approved talking points.
4. Turns out those talking points weren't completely accurate about the causes of the attack, which became clear because the administration got and released more detailed after-action reports.
5. Regardless of the talking points, the people who were killed would have been killed regardless of the reasonable decisions that were made in response to the expected anti-video demonstrations, because the threat ACTUALLY was an unanticipated Al Qaeda attack.
6. This is bigger than Watergate and Iran-Contra COMBINED, because putting out incorrect talking points about a fairly routine terrorist incident is, like, a major felony.

Is this the scandal? That the administration's PR people confused the picture in order to cover the administration's ass and then cleared it up when they got better information?
 
2013-05-16 10:55:57 AM
From 2002 to 2008, there were 13 attacks on US consulates and embassys in the mid east that resulted in American deaths.  The Yeman consulate was attacked TWICE.  Why were they not investigated?  Oh yea thats right, a white guy was president.
 
2013-05-16 10:56:12 AM
Stupid/'trying to hard to cool/edgy' headline subby.
 
2013-05-16 10:58:43 AM
plancksconstant.org

So, it wasn't caused by riots over The Innocence Of Muslims (movie)?  Did they let the director out of jail, then?

/yes, that was actually the narrative for a few days.  There was some CYA goin' on.
 
2013-05-16 10:59:38 AM

Cymbal: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: So... Libbies/proggies condemned the Republican obsession with Oval Office blowjobs but use the same ad hominem argument against the Republicans when it suits them? Oh, wait, it's about hypocrisy, right? Careful kids, this could get meta very quickly.

I don't remember anyone condemning Ken Starr, just laughing at him at what a giant waste of time and resources it was to investigate a stained blue dress and a cigar.

Tell me again, what is the scandal around Benghazi? It's just manufactured outrage.


pretty soon there'll be so many "investigations" going on, some politician is going to have to work - a sad day indeed.  Pffft
Oh yeah Ken there?  Last I heard, $32million - no indictments - money well spent I guess.  .  .
 
2013-05-16 11:03:33 AM

Cymbal: I don't remember anyone condemning Ken Starr,


Really?
 
2013-05-16 11:11:43 AM

KyngNothing: So Petraeus was upset they weren't tying it MORE strongly to the Cairo protests? The Cairo protests that Republicans are upset the talking points mentioned?

And this is deepening the scandal?


they haven't thought their cunning plan all the way through.
 
2013-05-16 11:11:51 AM

fireclown: Did they let the director out of jail, then?


He went to jail for violating his parole. And why would you think there was any CYA going on when it can easily be explained by the CIA requesting that certain information wasn't revealed.
 
2013-05-16 11:21:55 AM
The lack of pics in this thread of the Other Women from the Pertraeus affair is a scandal!
 
2013-05-16 11:26:24 AM
There's intelligence, and then there's military intelligence.
 
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