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(WTOP)   How much money are the Obamas worth? Well, it's somewhere between $1.8 million and $5.8 million. Oh, you'd like him to be more specific? Well, who are you to ask questions of our liege?   (wtop.com) divider line 239
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2013-05-16 08:11:11 AM
Who cares?
 
2013-05-16 08:14:27 AM

Dust: Who cares?


Perennially butthurt right wingers
 
2013-05-16 08:14:35 AM
The jealousy is dripping off of you, subby.

Conservatives hate a self-made man.
 
2013-05-16 08:23:52 AM
They sound uppity.
 
2013-05-16 08:25:03 AM
Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.
 
2013-05-16 08:25:54 AM
Smells like another scandal to me! Why does Obama keep racking up all these scandals?

/scandal
 
DAR
2013-05-16 08:27:21 AM
"you people don't need to know"..........k/dar
 
2013-05-16 08:30:41 AM
Dust: Who cares?

You're right subby, your headline is stupid.
 
2013-05-16 08:41:43 AM
He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.
 
2013-05-16 08:42:48 AM
If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.
 
2013-05-16 08:47:16 AM
They wouldn't have dared to ask this of Romney.  Who has that much lost in his couch cushions.
 
2013-05-16 08:55:00 AM

kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.


Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy. That's why they have no patience for people like George Soros who call for "tax reform" and yet CHOOSE not to donate all their extra money to the IRS. You know that you're allowed to do that, right? If you feel like the government should have more money or that your taxes aren't high enough, you can give all your extra money to the IRS. Hell, they'll need it pay bail with all these investigations going on. But what does it say when a man like Soros wants all of US to pay more, but he's not willing to give any more in the first place? It says HYPOCRITE.

And Al Gore. Don't even get me started on Al Gore and all his environmentalists goons. These people want us to live in the dark ages and not have electricity and worship Mother Earth, which they call Gaya, no surprise there, and yet they live in their 20,000 square foot mansions and jet all over the world in their jet planes burning oil just for the heck of it. "Do as I say, not as I do," that's the mantra. Well, you know what that says? HYPOCRITE. That's what.

And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to know, they'd lament. And on and on. And now Obama can shroud his untold millions under the veil of "paperwork" and "required disclosure?" Does that seem like anything to you? It does to me, and I'll tell you what that is: HYPOCRISY.
 
2013-05-16 08:58:29 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Truman
 
2013-05-16 08:59:00 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Some, like Obama, didn't start out that way but by the time they run for office everyone is. I don't begrudge the very wealthy. What I have a problem people born to wealth run for office. The problem is with is when they run for president saying they know what it is like to struggle and understand the job market. No they do not.
 
2013-05-16 08:59:51 AM

jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.


You're not even trying anymore.
 
2013-05-16 09:06:35 AM

YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.


You say this like he was ever trying to begin with.
 
2013-05-16 09:06:42 AM
The same people outraged by this were also outraged that anyoned dared to ask Romney to disclose his tax returns.
 
2013-05-16 09:11:59 AM
And he still manages to not shiat all over the 47%.  It's like America is actually composed of different types of people!
 
2013-05-16 09:25:05 AM
$5.8 million?  Mitt Romney makes that much money in an afternoon spent sitting around the pool.  That's why we need to have someone successful in the White House instead of these seven figure loser wannabes.
 
2013-05-16 09:39:34 AM

YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.


Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.
 
2013-05-16 09:44:50 AM

jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.


How are you doing these days?
 
2013-05-16 09:56:26 AM
We could ask the IRS how much Obama is worth, but since Obama single handedly runs the IRS, he can keep that stuff secret.
 
2013-05-16 09:57:13 AM
Long form worth certificate.
 
2013-05-16 10:02:35 AM

Pocket Ninja: Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy.


You are a gentleman and a fine human being. In a just world you would be wealthy. Your mother should receive letters instructing her to love you more.
 
2013-05-16 10:11:13 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-16 10:11:22 AM

hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?


I don't think you want to know.  He seems rather unhinged and sad.  It's like that morning when a boy wakes up to be a man, and the first thing he realizes is that his hands are too big to play with his Polly Pocket playset.
 
2013-05-16 10:14:52 AM

PreMortem: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Truman


Grant
 
2013-05-16 10:16:13 AM
The high side of that is stupidly low.
 
2013-05-16 10:16:42 AM
A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000
 
2013-05-16 10:17:25 AM
oh look how he took advantage of tax loopholes to give money to his kids without paying taxes.

These 1%ers are out of control.
 
2013-05-16 10:18:52 AM

hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?


Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.
 
2013-05-16 10:19:12 AM
Because most investments do not have a firm fixed price attached to them until they are liquidated, and thus are difficult to asses.

that said, he is worth an order of magnitude less than either Boehner or McConnel
 
2013-05-16 10:19:26 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: PreMortem: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Truman

Grant


Nixon
Lincoln
Polk
Harrison
 
2013-05-16 10:19:41 AM
Worse than Watergate.
 
2013-05-16 10:20:11 AM
why is it seem  that only the right refers to Obama as "dear leader" or "our liege".  What kind of complex do they have, anyway?
 
2013-05-16 10:20:45 AM
But how does that sit within the blah demographic?
 
2013-05-16 10:21:40 AM

jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.


STAHP.

If you aren't even going to try, don't bother typing at all.
 
2013-05-16 10:21:58 AM

ManateeGag: why is it seem  that only the right refers to Obama as "dear leader" or "our liege".  What kind of complex do they have, anyway?


Cuz socialfartbungerism, silly. And Commuspunkmeierism too.
 
2013-05-16 10:22:14 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Truman died poor.
 
2013-05-16 10:22:23 AM

Dust: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

You say this like he was ever trying to begin with.


jwp has always been trying.  Very, very trying.
 
2013-05-16 10:22:44 AM
 Democrats that have a little money are elitist. Where as Republicans with money are just hard working patriots.


This is a new and exciting attack by the right.
 
2013-05-16 10:23:43 AM

jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.


We appreciate the effort. Stay strong, brother.
 
2013-05-16 10:25:36 AM

Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000


They're not alone either -- EVERY US politician reports their assets this way.  Since most of those assets fluctuate in value over time, they mostly just report an asset class (real estate, stocks, etc), which in turn are categorized into an approximate range of values.  To try to gin up "controversy" over this is just naive.
 
2013-05-16 10:26:31 AM

crab66: Democrats that have a little money are elitist. Where as Republicans with money are just hard working patriotsjob creators


This is a new and exciting attack by the right.


FTFY
 
2013-05-16 10:27:34 AM

Arkanaut: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000

They're not alone either -- EVERY US politician reports their assets this way.  Since most of those assets fluctuate in value over time, they mostly just report an asset class (real estate, stocks, etc), which in turn are categorized into an approximate range of values.  To try to gin up "controversy" over this is just naive

routing operating procedure for the GOP.


FTFY
 
2013-05-16 10:27:42 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: oh look how he took advantage of tax loopholes to give money to his kids without paying taxes.

These 1%ers are out of control.


$5.8 mil is about half the threshold for the top the 1%.
 
2013-05-16 10:28:14 AM

coeyagi: Arkanaut: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000

They're not alone either -- EVERY US politician reports their assets this way.  Since most of those assets fluctuate in value over time, they mostly just report an asset class (real estate, stocks, etc), which in turn are categorized into an approximate range of values.  To try to gin up "controversy" over this is just naive routine operating procedure for the GOP.


FTFY


FTFM
 
2013-05-16 10:31:27 AM

Dust: Who cares?


I concur. But I particularly like how the idea of him being worth 6 million is somehow something problematic, when you remember that the last two guys the Republicans put forwards were worth about six to twenty times as much.
 
2013-05-16 10:35:18 AM
The only reason to go into politics is money and power.  Otherwise, what's the point?
 
2013-05-16 10:36:37 AM

coeyagi: coeyagi: Arkanaut: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000

They're not alone either -- EVERY US politician reports their assets this way.  Since most of those assets fluctuate in value over time, they mostly just report an asset class (real estate, stocks, etc), which in turn are categorized into an approximate range of values.  To try to gin up "controversy" over this is just naive routine operating procedure for the GOP.


FTFY

FTFM


I was going to say, the GOP isn't routing anyone outside of the South these days.
 
2013-05-16 10:36:57 AM
I see the derposphere is tee-ing up their next "scandal".  Welcome to life with conservatives when they've finally resigned themselves to the fact that the Dem won re-election.
 
2013-05-16 10:37:06 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Harry Truman.
 
2013-05-16 10:37:16 AM
I have a certain amount of money saved for retirement. I don't have to share that amount with anyone. My salary is not public. You can find out the approximate worth of my home from public records, but not how much I have put into it.

Obama's salary is public, as are properties. But his savings? He also doesn't have to share that amount with anyone. Nor do I have any expectations he needs to do so.

Suffice it to say that after Obama leaves office he will basically be set for life with the lecture and book circuit.
 
2013-05-16 10:37:52 AM
For those who haven't looked at the actual article, it mentions Benghazi within three sentences.
 
2013-05-16 10:37:59 AM

Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000



Boehner could take a few classes in vote-selling from Senator Turtleman:

Net worth: From $9,946,049 to $44,667,000 (ranked 10th in Senate)
Assets: 41 totaling $9,946,049 to $44,667,000
Transactions: 23 totaling $227,024 to $830,000

This from a man who's all but outright said his taking bribes counts as free speech. There's a reason we have the term, "as stupid as a Kentucky voter."
 
2013-05-16 10:38:05 AM

RexTalionis: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Harry Truman.


He was part of the social elite. That's how he became President.
 
2013-05-16 10:41:43 AM

ManateeGag: why is it seem  that only the right refers to Obama as "dear leader" or "our liege".  What kind of complex do they have, anyway?


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-05-16 10:47:30 AM

bdub77: I have a certain amount of money saved for retirement. I don't have to share that amount with anyone. My salary is not public. You can find out the approximate worth of my home from public records, but not how much I have put into it.

Obama's salary is public, as are properties. But his savings? He also doesn't have to share that amount with anyone. Nor do I have any expectations he needs to do so.

Suffice it to say that after Obama leaves office he will basically be set for sentenced to life with the lecture and book circuit.


FTFY
 
2013-05-16 10:48:48 AM

Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000



The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.
 
2013-05-16 10:49:28 AM
He didn't make that.
 
2013-05-16 10:50:00 AM
WTF?  Aren't there like 10 straight years of tax returns on public record for the Obama's?

That's some fine butthurt you got going on there, subby.
 
2013-05-16 10:51:11 AM

JunkyJu: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000


The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.


It's not "look over there." It's "Why does this matter for Obama and not for anyone else?" It's not a scandal that Obama's rich. He wrote books, practiced law, was a seantor, and  is the farking President. Why does it matter?
 
2013-05-16 10:52:46 AM
Ok, so he's worth somewhere between 18 and 58 mil.

I... don't know what that's supposed to imply or prove, but yeah.  He's a wealthy man.  Am I supposed to be upset or something?  Where is this going?  And what happened to my pants?
 
2013-05-16 10:53:39 AM

jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.


Well, considering there is literally nothing treasonous that he could be tried over, that actually makes quite a bit of sense.
 
2013-05-16 10:53:59 AM
It's too easy to get people who don't pay attention to statistics riled up with a couple of numbers.  It's like every time the unemployment report comes out someone will point out the "REAL" unemployment rate, even though that's a number tracked by the same agency.  Or a couple of years ago during the debt ceiling kerfuffle Grover Norquist was going on about how the White House debt reduction proposals were obviously trying to inflate the numbers and trick the American people because their proposals were for debt reduction over 10 years, failing to mention that EVERY budget measure talks about projected effects over 10 years, because that's how the CBO works.
 
2013-05-16 10:54:34 AM
Who cares?
 
2013-05-16 10:55:34 AM

JunkyJu: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000


The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.


Unless you want to be outraged 544 more times (435 Reps, 100 Senators, 9 SCOTUS justices, V/POTUS), this isn't a scandal. If you want to keep your blood pressure down a bit, narrow your focus to the longer-termed folks who came in with net worths under a million and haven't produced much (like a book), yet are somehow now worth many millions.

There's fewer of those, and far more "there" there to get outraged about.

Pointing out that a guy who wrote 2 best- and long-selling books while also making ~$150-200k salaries in the last 7ish years is now worth over a million isn't really an insight into anything other than Obama being pretty good at capitalism.
 
2013-05-16 10:56:03 AM

JunkyJu: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000

The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.


Defense?  What is there to defend?
 
2013-05-16 10:57:15 AM

mrshowrules: Who cares?


I kind of agree.  I don't really care how much politicians are worth in dollars.  But, if they are going to force them to report it, they should require it to be meaningful.  Not, "I am worth somewhere between zero and all the dollars."
 
2013-05-16 10:57:28 AM
Pocket Ninja:   And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to know, they'd lament. And on and on. And now Obama can shroud his untold millions under the veil of "paperwork" and "required disclosure?" Does that seem like anything to you? It does to me, and I'll tell you what that is:HYPOCRISY.

It's worse than just hypocrisy.

Don't you think it's suspicious the government gives such a wide range of possible values for his ill-gotten wealth?  I mean, 1.8 to 5.8 million dollars?  Let's just assume the real figure is the average, which is... *counts on fingers* about six million dollars.

What job did 0bama have before stealing the Presidency?  He proudly brags that he was a community organizer.  How much does a community organizer make?  Enough that he can pocket a nest egg of six million dollars?  Riiiiigggght.

I wonder what other kind of job involves wandering the mean streets of the ghetto, interacting with lots of people in dark alleyways and deserted street corners, and making a lot of money with shady transactions.  Yeahhhh.  That's what the lamestream driveby in-the-tank liberal media won't tell you.
 
2013-05-16 10:57:46 AM

JunkyJu: The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.


Much like the "That uppity ni....well, that is, what I meant to say was, socialist thinks he's better than you!" charge has become the GOP standard. Is there any evidence to any GOP charge aside from "Well, I mean...just look at him, you know he did it!"?
 
2013-05-16 10:58:55 AM
How much more specificity is required?  In that range the Obamas are definitely rich, but not rich enough to light cigars with thousand dollar bills.

I guess the idea is to equate this to Mitt's refusal to release his tax returns when he ran for prez, but that will only play the intellectually ingenuous people who would never have anything but a negative impression of Obama in the first place.
 
2013-05-16 10:59:43 AM

DubyaHater: The only reason to go into politics is money and power.  Otherwise, what's the point?


Lately, anyone running for office is just a bored rich guy.
 
2013-05-16 11:01:05 AM

PreMortem: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Truman


Carter
 
2013-05-16 11:01:42 AM
I don't seem to remember getting an itemized list of the Bush assets.  Why does shiat like this only matter when a Dem is in office?
 
2013-05-16 11:02:47 AM

theknuckler_33: JunkyJu: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000

The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.

Defense?  What is there to defend?


That a ni-*bong* has a little money. Must be a scandal.
 
2013-05-16 11:05:35 AM
Subby want to maybe let us know how much money is donated to political campaigns and by whom? I think that might be more relevant than knowing precisely how many millions out politicians personally have.
 
2013-05-16 11:07:01 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


When he was running for office? Clinton. People have already mentioned Truman.

I've heard that FDR was a man of modest means.
 
2013-05-16 11:08:30 AM
i1282.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-16 11:10:22 AM

Bloody William: JunkyJu: Dr Dreidel: A leading Federal politician worth between $1.8 and $5.8 million, you say?

How about John Boehner?

Net Worth: From $1,787,113 to $5,455,000 (only good enough to be ranked 85th in House)
Assets: 104 totaling $1,787,113 to $5,455,000
Transactions: 69 totaling $521,059 to $2,040,000


The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.

It's not "look over there." It's "Why does this matter for Obama and not for anyone else?" It's not a scandal that Obama's rich. He wrote books, practiced law, was a seantor, and  is the farking President. Why does it matter?


Err, $1.8-5.8m in assets is not rich. It was 100 years ago, but inflation and economic growth put it pretty much in the upper middle class now: Less that $6m means you are still in the 99%, not the 1% (and let alone part of the really rich):

http://wealthymatters.com/2012/05/30/what-makes-you-well-off-in-amer ic a/
 
2013-05-16 11:11:13 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: theknuckler_33: JunkyJu: The "Look over there!" defense is becoming the standard.

Defense?  What is there to defend?

That a ni-*bong* has a little money. Must be a scandal.


That's reverse racism!

*runs!*
 
2013-05-16 11:16:40 AM

jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.


You do know Obamacare covers that, right?
 
2013-05-16 11:20:03 AM
the black man has made some money by writing books... all by himself!

i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-16 11:20:10 AM
Only $1.8-5.8 mil?  Do you want some more porridge?

theunconventionalconservative.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-16 11:27:31 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
 
2013-05-16 11:29:54 AM

pueblonative: jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.

You do know Obamacare covers that, right?


It might even offset the psych costs of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
 
2013-05-16 11:30:42 AM

jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.


That's covered under Obamacare you know...
 
2013-05-16 11:31:59 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Jose Mujica .

Of course you'll have to go to Uruguay for him to be your president.
 
2013-05-16 11:33:01 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho


Didn't he make his bones as a wrestling and porn star? I'd say he was firmly in both the social and financial elites.
 
2013-05-16 11:33:46 AM
Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.
 
2013-05-16 11:34:01 AM

YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.

That's covered under Obamacare you know...


YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.

That's covered under Obamacare you know...


What about the alcoholism treatment? I ask not just for jwp, but for other farkers who need such help.
 
2013-05-16 11:34:14 AM
Make way for Obama-Has-Money-Gate!
 
2013-05-16 11:35:04 AM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


Actually get an answer and the conservatards scream anyway, apparently.
 
2013-05-16 11:36:08 AM
No wonder his housing plans took so long to work. He's still paying 5.625% on his mortgage! I don't trust anyone who doesn't know enough to refi at today's rates. IMPEACH.
 
2013-05-16 11:39:05 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Make way for Obama-Has-Money-Gate!hazi

 
2013-05-16 11:45:17 AM
Put the IRS on it. They can find out for you. They don't car what you do with the information when you get it either.
 
2013-05-16 11:47:07 AM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


You mean after Obama made public 10 years of tax returns?
 
2013-05-16 11:47:29 AM

EngineerAU: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Jose Mujica .

Of course you'll have to go to Uruguay for him to be your president.


I love that guy.

No.  Seriously.  I'm not making a Uruguay joke.  Any president that gives away all his money, lives in a hut with his wife and occasionally rides his bike to work is okay in my book.
 
2013-05-16 11:47:33 AM
Wait, you're saying that a guy with a $400,000 a year job and two best-selling books is RICH?

That's it, I'm never voting for him again.
 
2013-05-16 11:48:57 AM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


Republicans whine about how it's none of our business.

Unless, of course, it's a Democrat. Then there's wailing and gnashing of teeth from conservitards.

Keep farking that chicken, baby - you know it wants it.
 
2013-05-16 11:49:42 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Truman.
 
2013-05-16 11:53:16 AM
It's not like he had a major interest in a firm, placed his assets in a supposedly "blind" trust, and proceeded to give them billions of unquestioned, uncompetetive contracts in two war zones.
 
2013-05-16 11:55:31 AM
Pocket Ninja:
Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy. That's why they have no patience for people like George Soros who call for "tax reform" and yet CHOOSE not to donate all their extra money to the IRS. You know that you're allowed to do that, right? If you feel like the government should have more money or that your taxes aren't high enough, you can give all your extra money to the IRS.

First of all, Republican may be a proper noun, but "right" is not.

Secondly, "If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy"I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic there, so I'll leave it alone.

Finally, name me one economist who's said that simply writing a check to the government is a good idea.  Republicans are bizarre in the notion that the liberal wealthy will be suckered with the notion that "If you love taxes so much, why don't you just write a check?" with the goofy notion that if this happens, the GOP will have all the money and Democrats will be broke.  And then the GOP can do whatever they want because liberals have also gotten rid of all of their guns, too.

But seriously, though, name me ONE economist who's said that will help.  I know that Neil Cavuto tells people "If you feel so guilty about being rich..." but that's proof that he doesn't think that it will help.
 
2013-05-16 11:57:31 AM

Diogenes: And he still manages to not shiat all over the 47%.  It's like America is actually composed of different types of people!


You mean the imaginary 47% of people who don't pay their taxes?  Ugh...that talking point will never go away.
 
2013-05-16 11:58:18 AM
How ever much it is, I'm willing to bet he got it honestly. On the other hand, how much is Glenn Beck worth these days? Or Ann Coulter?
 
2013-05-16 12:00:17 PM

vygramul: Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.

Republicans whine about how it's none of our business.

Unless, of course, it's a Democrat. Then there's wailing and gnashing of teeth from conservitards.

Keep farking that chicken, baby - you know it wants it.


Where do you see the wailing and gnashing of teeth?

If someone points out the hypocrisy of the Left, then that's considered wailing and gnashing of teeth, chicken farking, and all the rest of the standard muck?  Go it.
 
2013-05-16 12:00:25 PM
And the tally of people who can shut their mouths increases by one.
 
2013-05-16 12:00:59 PM

Parthenogenetic: Pocket Ninja:   And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to know, they'd lament. And on and on. And now Obama can shroud his untold millions under the veil of "paperwork" and "required disclosure?" Does that seem like anything to you? It does to me, and I'll tell you what that is:HYPOCRISY.

It's worse than just hypocrisy.

Don't you think it's suspicious the government gives such a wide range of possible values for his ill-gotten wealth?  I mean, 1.8 to 5.8 million dollars?  Let's just assume the real figure is the average, which is... *counts on fingers* about six million dollars.

What job did 0bama have before stealing the Presidency?  He proudly brags that he was a community organizer.  How much does a community organizer make?  Enough that he can pocket a nest egg of six million dollars?  Riiiiigggght.

I wonder what other kind of job involves wandering the mean streets of the ghetto, interacting with lots of people in dark alleyways and deserted street corners, and making a lot of money with shady transactions.  Yeahhhh.  That's what the lamestream driveby in-the-tank liberal media won't tell you.


The ObamaS. She is an Attorney. He wrote a bestseller. He makes 400K a year with free room and board.

By comparison: Dubya and cronies forced the taxpayers of Tarrant county, TX to buy him a shiny new baseball stadium, even though the former one wasn't very old. He and his cronies took the land around it through eminent domain. Dubya put in 100K (which was supposedly given to him) to buy the Rangers,  and walked away with 14.9 million bucks. See the difference?
 
2013-05-16 12:02:01 PM

ManateeGag: why is it seem  that only the right refers to Obama as "dear leader" or "our liege".  What kind of complex do they have, anyway?


It's as though the majority of Americans voted for something else, and political allies on both a state and federal level appointed him in an extra-democratic manner.

Okay, I'm being silly.  Silly silly silly.
 
2013-05-16 12:04:25 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Dust: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

You say this like he was ever trying to begin with.

jwp has always been trying.  Very, very trying.


Just look at how many bites he got. Those of who know what the ignore button is for would appreciate it if everyone would quit quoting morons without a single coherent thought to contribute.
 
2013-05-16 12:07:22 PM
He would have a lot more money  but he wasn't in congress long enough to take advantage of all the insider trading opportunities available to its members.
 
2013-05-16 12:08:50 PM
Find me a single Senator on or  below the poverty line
 
2013-05-16 12:09:05 PM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


I'm totally fine with you asking. Ask away. The information has been reported.

When you point at that information and say "SEE? SEE?" when he isn't worth more than any other high-profile politician on a national level (and much less than many), that's when you start to sound like a whiny, deranged farkwit.
 
2013-05-16 12:09:20 PM

the_foo: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Dust: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

You say this like he was ever trying to begin with.

jwp has always been trying.  Very, very trying.

Just look at how many bites he got. Those of who know what the ignore button is for would appreciate it if everyone would quit quoting morons without a single coherent thought to contribute.



"You're not trying" is not a "bite".

REALLY, THAT'S JUST RACIST AND YOU ONLY SAID THAT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS BLAH AND AND AND STUDY IT OUT YOU BASTID!!!!11!!

is a bite

For those of us who use the ignore feature, there's a setting so that you will never see them if they are quoted.  You could use that.
 
2013-05-16 12:10:03 PM
"a 30-year mortgage on their Chicago home, at an interest rate of 5.625 percent"

If Obama cannot even refinance his home how can he be expected to run the economy?!? Let's impeach him!
 
2013-05-16 12:12:51 PM

moothemagiccow: Find me a single Senator on or  below the poverty line


That's a logical impossibility. Besides, what would be the point? Don't we generally want people who are capable of running their own lives successfully to be in charge of running the country?
 
2013-05-16 12:13:50 PM

FooDog: "a 30-year mortgage on their Chicago home, at an interest rate of 5.625 percent"

If Obama cannot even refinance his home how can he be expected to run the economy?!? Let's impeach him!


Heh, that stood out to me as well.  Dude needs a better mortgage.
 
2013-05-16 12:13:56 PM

Danger Mouse: Where do you see the wailing and gnashing of teeth?

If someone points out the hypocrisy of the Left, then that's considered wailing and gnashing of teeth, chicken farking, and all the rest of the standard muck?  Go it.


It's the same complaining Romney got. If it's hypocritical to defend, so, too, is it hypocritical to complain.

But you keep right on farking that chicken.
 
2013-05-16 12:15:48 PM

jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.


Do you really think he will tried for anything? Are you seriously that stupid? Jeez look at who I'm asking. For that one must commit a crime and no one has yet been able to provide evidence of any actual wrongdoing.
 
2013-05-16 12:16:15 PM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


That's not what I recall from John Kerry's Presidential campaign.

Next time we have a Democratic Presidential candidate who inherited $100m+ and then said that rich people are already paying too much in taxes, let me know.
 
2013-05-16 12:16:23 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Say, has anyone mentioned Truman yet?
 
2013-05-16 12:17:07 PM
The GOP did this shiat in Clinton's 2nd term.....the petulant hypocritical shills will not stop the witch hunt.  Party above Country.
 
2013-05-16 12:17:43 PM
I find it ridiculous that the leader of the free world is paying a 5.625% interest rate on a 30 year mortgage.
 
2013-05-16 12:18:17 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.

That's covered under Obamacare you know...

YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.

That's covered under Obamacare you know...

What about the alcoholism treatment? I ask not just for jwp, but for other farkers who need such help.


Well, since I don't drink that comment is way off. AND, obamacare isn't and won't do anything for me. I worked my ass off for decades so they call me privileged and what I paid in to the system is for lazy bastards liberals who refused to get off their asses.
 
2013-05-16 12:18:51 PM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


Way to boil down the argument to potato, Forrest.

Derp, Forrest, Derp!
 
2013-05-16 12:19:26 PM

jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.


Go Infection!
 
2013-05-16 12:20:02 PM

Lost Thought 00: Because most investments do not have a firm fixed price attached to them until they are liquidated, and thus are difficult to asses.

that said, he is worth an order of magnitude less than either Boehner or McConnel


Came here to say this.

Obama said what his assets were.   He had disclosed many years of tax returns.     His finances are about as open as they could conceivably could be.

/Truth be known,  Obama's stuff is probably worth far more than currently advertised if only because when it does come time to sell them they would have belonged to a former president.     And indeed his greatest financial asset is not on any ledger book: it is that he is president.  That will allow him to collect many millions after he leaves the White House as has every president since Ford who pioneered this.

//Funny how conservative seem to forget the simplest things about economics in these rants.   Who does not know that the dollar value of something is not really determined until it is sold?
 
2013-05-16 12:20:45 PM
Surely, he plans on depositing all excess wealth directly into the EBT accounts of the huddled masses. Surely.
 
2013-05-16 12:21:11 PM

Yes please: I find it ridiculous that the leader of the free world is paying a 5.625% interest rate on a 30 year mortgage.


If he re-fis, even if his rate is high-3's, he automatically got a sweetheart deal from his cronies in the banking industry.

// better question: if he's worth so much, why not just pay off the note with some of the cash he has laying around?
// I know there are reasons not to do this, but not being a homeowner, I'm not intimately familiar with them
 
2013-05-16 12:21:55 PM

YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.

That's covered under Obamacare you know...


I now find myself against Obamacare.
 
2013-05-16 12:23:28 PM

ScaryBottles: Go Infection!


This is why there's a "Funny!" button.
 
2013-05-16 12:23:36 PM
He could buy a 4 BR house in Outer Richmond district of San Francisco for 1.8 Million. For 6 million he be a  could buy the same house in Pacific Heights.
 
2013-05-16 12:24:21 PM

ScaryBottles: Do you really think he will tried for anything? Are you seriously that stupid? Jeez look at who I'm asking. For that one must commit a crime and no one has yet been able to provide evidence of any actual wrongdoing.


look man it's no big deal, he just wants to see the president lynched
 
2013-05-16 12:27:55 PM
Go with the high end and say it is $5.8 million. Is that an obscene net worth for the leader of our country? Some moron who got drafted by the Raiders was paid $26 million before flunking out of the NFL and retiring at the age of 24.
 
2013-05-16 12:32:33 PM
George W Bush is worth $35 million.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-05-16 12:34:59 PM

DarwiOdrade: George W Bush is worth $35 million.

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Impressive. Now, imagine what he could have been worth had he not pissed away millions on poorly-run business ventures.
 
2013-05-16 12:36:51 PM

BMulligan: DarwiOdrade: George W Bush is worth $35 million.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

Impressive. Now, imagine what he could have been worth had he not pissed away millions on poorly-run business ventures.


Are you talking about the Iraq war?
 
2013-05-16 12:38:18 PM

jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.


I Laffed Out Loud'ed. Maybe then he can finally git him some but-but-butt-bush?

jehovahs witness protection: hillbillypharmacist: jehovahs witness protection: YodaBlues: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

You're not even trying anymore.

Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

How are you doing these days?

Fighting infection now but getting a lil better. My right arm and leg aren't working very well, so it takes me longer to make snarky comments these days.


Get well soon, you crazy Farker.
 
2013-05-16 12:38:32 PM

jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.


That's a pretty twisted fantasy.
 
2013-05-16 12:41:58 PM

DarwiOdrade: BMulligan: DarwiOdrade: George W Bush is worth $35 million.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

Impressive. Now, imagine what he could have been worth had he not pissed away millions on poorly-run business ventures.

Are you talking about the Iraq war?


Are you kidding? How do you think he paid for Jenna's wedding? If she'd demanded two more hot entrees, he would have had to invade Belgium to pay for it.
 
2013-05-16 12:42:16 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Truman.  Left the White House driving his own car in relative poverty.
 
2013-05-16 12:43:27 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


My goodness, I can't believe no one has mentioned Truman yet!
 
2013-05-16 12:43:37 PM

coeyagi: Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.

Way to boil down the argument to potato, Forrest.

Derp, Forrest, Derp!


You forgot to call me a racist and you didn't even make a chicken comment.

I have a sad.
 
2013-05-16 12:44:24 PM

Mugato: Smells like another scandal to me! Why does Obama keep racking up all these scandals?

/scandal


the real scandal is the President should refinance his house....at 5.6% mortgage..in this market he could do much better.
 
2013-05-16 12:45:47 PM

Danger Mouse: If someone points out the hypocrisy of the Left, then that's considered wailing and gnashing of teeth, chicken farking, and all the rest of the standard muck?  Go it.


You didn't point out any hypocrisy at all. Your thinking that it was hypocrisy is the wailing and gnashing of teeth, chicken farking, etc.
 
2013-05-16 12:49:50 PM

Danger Mouse: coeyagi: Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.

Way to boil down the argument to potato, Forrest.

Derp, Forrest, Derp!

You forgot to call me a racist and you didn't even make a chicken comment.

I have a sad.


How about "climb down off that cross"?  Would that make you feel better that you are reinforcing at least one stereotype that you conservaclowns have dutifully earned?
 
2013-05-16 12:54:40 PM
They released their tax returns.  That's more than I can say for some politicians.
 
2013-05-16 12:56:28 PM
I'll give you twenty gold pieces for the female, she looks strong; but the male is of no use to me.
 
2013-05-16 12:58:04 PM

jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.


In all seriousness, what would it take for a sitting President to be tried, convicted, and sentenced to pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison? If Obama held a new conference, got up to the podium, announced "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am going to murder an orphan child", then pulled out a 9mm and a baby and shot it in the head.....maybe?
 
2013-05-16 12:59:50 PM

kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.


graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-05-16 01:01:22 PM

jayhawk88: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

In all seriousness, what would it take for a sitting President to be tried, convicted, and sentenced to pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison? If Obama held a new conference, got up to the podium, announced "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am going to murder an orphan child", then pulled out a 9mm and a baby and shot it in the head.....maybe?


Rpublicans would just complain that Obama wasn't doing enough to decrease the number of orphans.
 
2013-05-16 01:01:45 PM

SN1987a goes boom: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Truman died poor.


t2.gstatic.com
RIP
 
2013-05-16 01:03:01 PM

Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.

Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy.


You're talkin'  about the party of Larry Craig and David "Diaperboy" Vitter? Bwahaahaa! The party of "Family values Newt", Michele "I married a ghey" Bachmann, John "bangin my friend's wife" Ensign? That party?? The party of Mark Foley and drug-addict Rush doesn't like hypocrisy? Well, I'll be. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
2013-05-16 01:04:25 PM
The Obamas are priceless.

It's too bad there aren't more Americans (real Americans who actually care for everyone) like them.
 
2013-05-16 01:07:00 PM

Musikslayer: Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.

Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy.

You're talkin'  about the party of Larry Craig and David "Diaperboy" Vitter? Bwahaahaa! The party of "Family values Newt", Michele "I married a ghey" Bachmann, John "bangin my friend's wife" Ensign? That party?? The party of Mark Foley and drug-addict Rush doesn't like hypocrisy? Well, I'll be. Thanks for clearing that up.


Not familiar with  Pocket Ninja, I take it?

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2013-05-16 01:12:40 PM

jayhawk88: jehovahs witness protection: He's going to need that money for smokes and baggy pants male hookers in the federal prison.

In all seriousness, what would it take for a sitting President to be tried, convicted, and sentenced to pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison? If Obama held a new conference, got up to the podium, announced "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am going to murder an orphan child", then pulled out a 9mm and a baby and shot it in the head.....maybe?


Nah.  It would be defended as a ham-handed though perfectly legitimate fifth trimester abortion, and yet  another example of why nobody should be allowed to own a gun.

Republicans would ridicule the choice of a 9mm as proof that 0bammy is a pansy.
 
2013-05-16 01:16:40 PM
the only time I care about how much someone makes is when they complain about how low their taxes are, while simultaneously earning percentage points in Arruba and Switzerland.
 
2013-05-16 01:23:48 PM

Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.

Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy. That's why they have no patience for people like George Soros who call for "tax reform" and yet CHOOSE not to donate all their extra money to the IRS. You know that you're allowed to do that, right? If you feel like the government should have more money or that your taxes aren't high enough, you can give all your extra money to the IRS. Hell, they'll need it pay bail with all these investigations going on. But what does it say when a man like Soros wants all of US to pay more, but he's not willing to give any more in the first place? It says HYPOCRITE.

And Al Gore. Don't even get me started on Al Gore and all his environmentalists goons. These people want us to live in the dark ages and not have electricity and worship Mother Earth, which they call Gaya, no surprise there, and yet they live in their 20,000 square foot mansions and jet all over the world in their jet planes burning oil just for the heck of it. "Do as I say, not as I do," that's the mantra. Well, you know what that says? HYPOCRITE. That's what.

And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to know, they'd lame ...


This is weapons-grade stupid.

As has been pointed out, Obama did reveal his assets.  Those assets, like most assets, cannot have an accurate dollar value assigned to them unless they are sold.

As for Mitt Romney's taxes, Obama did reveal his tax returns for the years he wished Mitt Romney to reveal.  Indeed the person who started this release your tax return meme was Mitt's father who was clear that no one who could not do so should allowed into high office.  Indeed, the amount of grief that Romney took over not releasing those forms makes it clear that there was something in them beyond "more of the same."   I would advice both parties to not let any candidate any platform who can't do it.

As for Soros.  Well duh he does not pay more taxes then he has to.    This is just as dumb as liberal who get high and mighty when they learned Ayn Rand collected entitlements she thought the government should not be giving out.   Neither is/was a hypocrite because of it. (And yes, I did say just that in a Fark thread on that very issue.)    One lives with the system as it is now.  One does not volunteer to put oneself at a disadvantage over those with different ideologies.    I am sure Soros will pay those taxes if they are imposed as he suggests.

Al Gore has never said that people should not fly on planes.  Indeed if you speak around the world it is a practical necessity.   Nor has he ever said one can't live in a big house.  Though it might be pointed out, that house also contains offices for businesses.   He also pays the higher rates to get clean energy that he says that those who can afford it should and done the energy-saving measures he suggests people do.

And if you say that Al Gore says we should live in the dark ages then you are nothing more than a liar.  Nor do the vast majority of environmentalists suggest that we worship "Mother Earth" or Gaia.

Heck, you you even know what Gaia is supposed to be about?  Or the scientists who support or oppose it say?  Give a hint, even the most anti-Gaia scientists will tell you about man-made climate change.  See for example: Peter Ward's The Medea Hypothesis.
 
2013-05-16 01:29:32 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: This is weapons-grade stupid.


That's the joke.
 
2013-05-16 01:34:01 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: This is weapons-grade stupid.


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Here are  TheMysteriousStrangerMusikslayer, and a few of their friends at the last Fark party.
 
2013-05-16 01:41:55 PM
I'm more interested in what Boehner is invested in.  That information would be a lot more useful.
 
2013-05-16 01:50:35 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: This is weapons-grade stupid.


i887.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-16 01:50:37 PM

PreMortem: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Truman


Clinton, Nixon, Grant, etc...

A lot of them become wealthy afterward, but plenty come from modest means.
 
2013-05-16 01:52:55 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.

Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy. That's why they have no patience for people like George Soros who call for "tax reform" and yet CHOOSE not to donate all their extra money to the IRS. You know that you're allowed to do that, right? If you feel like the government should have more money or that your taxes aren't high enough, you can give all your extra money to the IRS. Hell, they'll need it pay bail with all these investigations going on. But what does it say when a man like Soros wants all of US to pay more, but he's not willing to give any more in the first place? It says HYPOCRITE.

And Al Gore. Don't even get me started on Al Gore and all his environmentalists goons. These people want us to live in the dark ages and not have electricity and worship Mother Earth, which they call Gaya, no surprise there, and yet they live in their 20,000 square foot mansions and jet all over the world in their jet planes burning oil just for the heck of it. "Do as I say, not as I do," that's the mantra. Well, you know what that says? HYPOCRITE. That's what.

And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to kno ...


chestofbooks.com
 
2013-05-16 01:53:48 PM

bdub77: RexTalionis: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Harry Truman.

He was part of the social elite. That's how he became President.


You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2013-05-16 01:54:42 PM
Subby's still butthurt over President Obama knowing how many houses he has, I see.

/GOP: the only party that refers to President Obama by regal titles
 
2013-05-16 01:54:55 PM
That's it, Obama just lost my vote in the next election.
 
2013-05-16 01:57:37 PM

fsbilly: bdub77: RexTalionis: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Harry Truman.

He was part of the social elite. That's how he became President.

You have no idea what you're talking about.


I don't know - the United States Senate seems like it might be a good place to run into the social elite.
 
2013-05-16 02:09:05 PM
Jesus Christ, people on here still don't know who Pocket Ninja is?  Even worse, you spend time on here and can't spot satire?  Pull your heads out of your asses, people!

Personally, I'm appalled that two highly-successful lawyers, one of whom has two bestselling books and over a decade at the highest echelons of government service, in the most powerful and wealthy nation on earth has some serious bucks in the bank.  Appalled!

For the record, retards, that too was not meant to be taken seriously!
 
2013-05-16 02:11:56 PM
What is this relevant to?
 
2013-05-16 02:11:59 PM

Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.


Actually a better comparison would be the treatment Kerry got in 2004. He was richer than Romney was when he ran.
 
2013-05-16 02:15:10 PM

Citrate1007: What is this relevant to?


The Plutocracy that Reagan and company created that has systematically turned our society into a two-tired system where the poor work their entire lives to make the rich richer?
 
2013-05-16 02:21:52 PM
You know, Obama has released his tax returns going back something like 15 years now. Before that his income probably wasn't all that much, and they didn't have a lot of tangible assets at that point. If you want to know how much he's made over that period of time, you could probably figure it out without too much trouble. The real question on his net worth is simply "hasn't had his house appraised recently". Not really a big deal.
 
2013-05-16 02:23:48 PM

Citrate1007: What is this relevant to?


Whether you vote for him in the next election or not, duh.
 
2013-05-16 02:25:05 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.


Wow, you're literally calling for a black man to be lynched.  I think the infection has gone to your head.
 
2013-05-16 02:27:27 PM
Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.  If this was Bush it would be "How dare he hide everything, what is he keeping form us, he must be getting kick backs from Halliburton".  Obama? "Whats the big deal?".

I do not think this is the end of the world, but shouldn't we know what the leader of our country is worth?  look at the alternative such as in China where the leaders hoard BILLIONS of dollars for themselves and their families.  Easiest way to prevent that and keep politics from getting dirtier?  Public disclosure.  And I think most people here would agree that in general public disclosure is a great idea.

In some way I get it, you see your guy shiat upon for stupid reasons day and night and the reaction is to over-defend him.  But can common sense needs to prevail at some point.  A good idea does not cease to be a good idea simply because it goes against your party.  Your guy is not always right.  And criticism often has some valid base to it.

/Sorry for rant, I have just noticed that I spend a lot less time on Fark solely because the comments are so predictable and unintelligent (in the critical thinking sense).
 
2013-05-16 02:27:28 PM

elchip: jehovahs witness protection: Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

Wow, you're literally calling for a black man to be lynched.  I think the infection has gone to your head.


Why would you say that? His head contains no vital organs.
 
2013-05-16 02:32:08 PM

UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.  If this was Bush it would be "How dare he hide everything, what is he keeping form us, he must be getting kick backs from Halliburton".  Obama? "Whats the big deal?".

I do not think this is the end of the world, but shouldn't we know what the leader of our country is worth?  look at the alternative such as in China where the leaders hoard BILLIONS of dollars for themselves and their families.  Easiest way to prevent that and keep politics from getting dirtier?  Public disclosure.  And I think most people here would agree that in general public disclosure is a great idea.

In some way I get it, you see your guy shiat upon for stupid reasons day and night and the reaction is to over-defend him.  But can common sense needs to prevail at some point.  A good idea does not cease to be a good idea simply because it goes against your party.  Your guy is not always right.  And criticism often has some valid base to it.

/Sorry for rant, I have just noticed that I spend a lot less time on Fark solely because the comments are so predictable and unintelligent (in the critical thinking sense).


Ok, so you've said that hiding BILLIONS is bad.  You've learned today, dear patriot, that Obama has no more than 5.8 million in net wealth.  Why don't you make it easier on us and just draw some arbitraty "outrage point" by which you can villify Obama for having a certain amount of wealth?
 
2013-05-16 02:32:59 PM

UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.


You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?
 
2013-05-16 02:35:44 PM

UNHbeta19: I do not think this is the end of the world, but shouldn't we know what the leader of our country is worth? look at the alternative such as in China where the leaders hoard BILLIONS of dollars for themselves and their families. Easiest way to prevent that and keep politics from getting dirtier? Public disclosure. And I think most people here would agree that in general public disclosure is a great idea.


Yes, it was a great idea to make Obama disclose his wealth. Which he did. Which is what the article is about.
 
2013-05-16 02:43:20 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Suffice it to say that after Obama leaves office he will basically be sentenced to life


on what charge. please, I'm begging you.  What do you believe the President has done to justify him being sent to prison for life?
 
2013-05-16 02:43:50 PM

BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?


Kind of the point.  It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...
 
2013-05-16 02:50:06 PM

UNHbeta19: Kind of the point.  It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...


Caught sayof?
 
2013-05-16 02:50:27 PM

thurstonxhowell: UNHbeta19: I do not think this is the end of the world, but shouldn't we know what the leader of our country is worth? look at the alternative such as in China where the leaders hoard BILLIONS of dollars for themselves and their families. Easiest way to prevent that and keep politics from getting dirtier? Public disclosure. And I think most people here would agree that in general public disclosure is a great idea.

Yes, it was a great idea to make Obama disclose his wealth. Which he did. Which is what the article is about.


And I do get that, which is why I do not think this is a big deal (my personal opinion is that if a complicated hedge fund can be marked to market everyday, our elected officials should be able to disclose a single, accurate number each year...not checking boxes for approximate value of each asset making true valuations almost impossible).

My main point is read the first 5 comments.  They are all pointless, shallow, bringing nothing to the table, simply defending Obama.  They do not defend the the status quo or anything on merit, just saying that it isn't a big deal because people must be jealous.  However, replace "Boehner" for "Obama" and the first 5 comments would be exact opposite... which shows that it is not about the fairness/unfairness of the issue, but rather the letter after the name.  No critical assessment of the issue, no debate as to what our elected officials owe us as a public, no real anything but useless garbage...my only point
 
2013-05-16 02:51:24 PM

bdub77: Obama's salary is public, as are properties. But his savings? He also doesn't have to share that amount with anyone. Nor do I have any expectations he needs to do so.


I don't mind making politicians do this, as it is supposed to be a check against conflicts of interest.  The problem is that nobody in the media ever does a damn useful thing with the information.  if a guy goes into congress worth half a million, works in congress for 10 years (where you know his salary mind you), and his final disclosure form says he's worth $15 million, you'd think someone might raise an eyebrow.
 
2013-05-16 02:52:30 PM

UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...


So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass
 
2013-05-16 02:54:05 PM
coeyagi:

Ok, so you've said that hiding BILLIONS is bad.  You've learned today, dear patriot, that Obama has no more than 5.8 million in net wealth.  Why don't you make it easier on us and just draw some arbitraty "outrage point" by which you can villify Obama for having a certain amount of wealth?

All billions started as millions.  And honestly $1 of ill-gotten wealth as a result of a public position (any public position) is too much.  And honestly I do not care what Obama is worth.  His wife was a successful lawyer and he is a best selling author.  Of course he will have money.  that is not the issue.  It is people like you that jump to his defense when he isn't even attacked or questioned.  We get it you like him.  Not every time somebody questions him is it a personal attack on you.
 
2013-05-16 02:55:01 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.


Andrew Johnson?

Grant? Truman?
 
2013-05-16 02:55:05 PM

UNHbeta19: Not every time somebody questions him is it a personal attack on you.


But why question him at all, if, as you've said, there is no reason to at all?
 
2013-05-16 02:59:35 PM

coeyagi: UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...

So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass


Not sure what your exact point is.  No reasonable person expects Obama to fill out a different form then all other presidents (in fact it would be illegal I would imagine).  However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Read the first 5 comments and tell me that they provide, in any way, any sort of insightful or meaningful thought.  It is defending Obama when he has not been attacked, it is simply ridiculous.  My original point was that coming into these discussions you KNOW that that will be the Weenerss, which is depressing for a site that I actually used to see some interesting points and discussion.
 
2013-05-16 03:01:29 PM

LasersHurt: UNHbeta19: Not every time somebody questions him is it a personal attack on you.

But why question him at all, if, as you've said, there is no reason to at all?


Read the article.  Not once was he ever questioned.  It is simply stating that he released this document...which he is required to.  Nothing more.  Yet again proving my point... defending Obama when nobody is questioning him at all.
 
2013-05-16 03:02:25 PM

UNHbeta19: coeyagi:

Ok, so you've said that hiding BILLIONS is bad.  You've learned today, dear patriot, that Obama has no more than 5.8 million in net wealth.  Why don't you make it easier on us and just draw some arbitraty "outrage point" by which you can villify Obama for having a certain amount of wealth?

All billions started as millions.  And honestly $1 of ill-gotten wealth as a result of a public position (any public position) is too much.  And honestly I do not care what Obama is worth.  His wife was a successful lawyer and he is a best selling author.  Of course he will have money.  that is not the issue.  It is people like you that jump to his defense when he isn't even attacked or questioned.  We get it you like him.  Not every time somebody questions him is it a personal attack on you.


I don't even know where to start with this word salad.  Seriously, I don't know, it has no point or cohesiveness.

Well, let's start with the assertion that he wasn't attacked.  Strawman. He was.  Subby, at the very least, did.  Read the f*cking headline.  Or drool, I don't care which.  I bet the latter because it's obvious he was attacked.

Ill-gotten wealth?  How the f*ck would this form alleviate the desire to know if it was ill-gotten? You're just flinging diarrhea around the thread, bro.
 
2013-05-16 03:03:22 PM

UNHbeta19: LasersHurt: UNHbeta19: Not every time somebody questions him is it a personal attack on you.

But why question him at all, if, as you've said, there is no reason to at all?

Read the article.  Not once was he ever questioned.  It is simply stating that he released this document...which he is required to.  Nothing more.  Yet again proving my point... defending Obama when nobody is questioning him at all.


Sometimes, on Fark.com, people discuss more than just the text of the article at hand, including the headline used, or the general sentiments of various users who weigh in during the thread.
 
2013-05-16 03:04:11 PM

UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...

So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass

Not sure what your exact point is.  No reasonable person expects Obama to fill out a different form then all other presidents (in fact it would be illegal I would imagine).  However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Read the first 5 comments and tell me that they provide, in any way, any sort of insightful or meaningful thought.  It is defending Obama when he has not been attacked, it is simply ridiculous.  My original point was that coming into these discussions you KNOW that that will be the Weenerss, which is depressing for a site that I actually used to see some interesting points and discussion.


First five comments?

1.  Who cares?
2.  Perennially butthurt right wingers
3.  The jealousy is dripping off of you, subby.
Conservatives hate a self-made man.
4.  They sound uppity.
5.  Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Wow, you're right.  Those are some outrageous statements!

You should go back to just lurking.  I think you might be wrapped a bit too tight to comment.
 
2013-05-16 03:04:21 PM

UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...

So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass

Not sure what your exact point is.  No reasonable person expects Obama to fill out a different form then all other presidents (in fact it would be illegal I would imagine).  However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Read the first 5 comments and tell me that they provide, in any way, any sort of insightful or meaningful thought.  It is defending Obama when he has not been attacked, it is simply ridiculous.  My original point was that coming into these discussions you KNOW that that will be the Weenerss, which is depressing for a site that I actually used to see some interesting points and discussion.


If your whole assertion is that we are defending him instead of looking at the process, I agree. But who f*cking started it?  The article and subby, god damnit.  Why don't you go after them?  They're the bullsh*t artists trolling all of us.

Oh, no, couldn't do that, wouldn't fit with your hidden Independent™ agenda, would it?
 
2013-05-16 03:05:02 PM

UNHbeta19: However, replace "Boehner" for "Obama" and the first 5 comments would be exact opposite... which shows that it is not about the fairness/unfairness of the issue, but rather the letter after the name.


People in this thread have pointed out that Boehner did the same type of calculation and is in the same ballpark in wealth. Very few people gave a shiat. I certainly didn't.
 
2013-05-16 03:05:50 PM

coeyagi: UNHbeta19: coeyagi:

Ok, so you've said that hiding BILLIONS is bad.  You've learned today, dear patriot, that Obama has no more than 5.8 million in net wealth.  Why don't you make it easier on us and just draw some arbitraty "outrage point" by which you can villify Obama for having a certain amount of wealth?

All billions started as millions.  And honestly $1 of ill-gotten wealth as a result of a public position (any public position) is too much.  And honestly I do not care what Obama is worth.  His wife was a successful lawyer and he is a best selling author.  Of course he will have money.  that is not the issue.  It is people like you that jump to his defense when he isn't even attacked or questioned.  We get it you like him.  Not every time somebody questions him is it a personal attack on you.

I don't even know where to start with this word salad.  Seriously, I don't know, it has no point or cohesiveness.

Well, let's start with the assertion that he wasn't attacked.  Strawman. He was.  Subby, at the very least, did.  Read the f*cking headline.  Or drool, I don't care which.  I bet the latter because it's obvious he was attacked.

Ill-gotten wealth?  How the f*ck would this form alleviate the desire to know if it was ill-gotten? You're just flinging diarrhea around the thread, bro.


You are right I am actually a barely literate Mongoloid that happened to find a computer.  Does that deep place within you that tingles whenever you interpret the slightest slight towards Obama feel better now?  I certainly hope so
 
2013-05-16 03:08:35 PM

coeyagi: UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...

So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass

Not sure what your exact point is.  No reasonable person expects Obama to fill out a different form then all other presidents (in fact it would be illegal I would imagine).  However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Read the first 5 comments and tell me that they provide, in any way, any sort of insightful or meaningful thought.  It is defending Obama when he has not been attacked, it is simply ridiculous.  My original point was that coming into these discussions you KNOW that that will be the Weenerss, which is depressing for a site that I actually used to see some interesting points and discussion.

If your whole assertion is that we are defending him instead of looking at the process, I agree. But who f*cking started it?  The article and subby, god damnit.  Why don't you go after them?  They're the bullsh*t artists tr ...


again the article didn't say anything negative?  So all these comments are simply based upon a single headline?  And I am the uneducated idiot here?
 
2013-05-16 03:11:51 PM
i1125.photobucket.com
FARK looks strangely familiar of late...

/Drew must be running a click drive.
//This site has been dead as hell these last few weeks.
 
2013-05-16 03:13:32 PM
Tor_Eckman:

First five comments?

1.  Who cares?
2.  Perennially butthurt right wingers
3.  The jealousy is dripping off of you, subby.
Conservatives hate a self-made man.
4.  They sound uppity.
5.  Name a President that wasn't part of ...


My point was that they contributed nothing.
1.  Would be exact opposite if it was anybody with an (R)
2.  Pretty clear this person didn't read the article just jumping into the defense without having a clue as to what is going on
3-4: Just meaningless
5.  this one is actually a good point and kind of addresses an issue, not necessarily the one brought up, but one that our country really should think about for a bit (oh and Andrew Jackson would probably meet the criteria  although he had a lot of regional power due to his military service, so even he is debatable...)
 
2013-05-16 03:15:41 PM

UNHbeta19: You are right I am actually a barely literate Mongoloid that happened to find a computer. Does that deep place within you that tingles whenever you interpret the slightest slight towards Obama feel better now? I certainly hope so

www.morethings.com

 
2013-05-16 03:17:16 PM

UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...

So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass

Not sure what your exact point is.  No reasonable person expects Obama to fill out a different form then all other presidents (in fact it would be illegal I would imagine).  However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Read the first 5 comments and tell me that they provide, in any way, any sort of insightful or meaningful thought.  It is defending Obama when he has not been attacked, it is simply ridiculous.  My original point was that coming into these discussions you KNOW that that will be the Weenerss, which is depressing for a site that I actually used to see some interesting points and discussion.

If your whole assertion is that we are defending him instead of looking at the process, I agree. But who f*cking started it?  The article and subby, god damnit.  Why don't you go after them?  They're the bullsh*t a ...


You are if you defend by proxy (by not highlighting the fact) that a) the GOP and other cons have spend 5 f*cking years doing nothing but ripping on the President instead of their f*cking job and b) we get bombarded by sh*t headlines like this all the time, so we rip on subby and the other mongoloids who subscribe to that characterization.

Why don't you go after the instigators?  You have an agenda, you have no interest in root cause analysis so f*cking admit it and stop wasting our time.
 
2013-05-16 03:18:36 PM
dinch:
haha, that is pretty accurate ...although I can only dream of hair like that
 
2013-05-16 03:19:52 PM

UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: coeyagi: UNHbeta19: BMulligan: UNHbeta19: Goddamn it.  It is comments in articles like this that really make me hate Fark (after 11 years of lurking or reading).  Before you even look in the comments you can tell it is going to just be full of apologists because it is Obama.

You do realize that the net worth of our elected public servants has been reported in this exact manner for years and years now, right? And that no one ever complained about it before, regardless of the president's party? And that you're a pathetic farkwit?

Kind of the point.   It has been reported in a 1950's fashion (check a box for where your asset value falls into) when we could have much more precise.  And people have complained.  And again proving my point about unintelligent, most basic possible thinking in these types of threads...

So, what you're saying is.... Obama should rewrite the form that he has to fill out?

Most basic possible thinking hits a home run!

//feel free to call the cops on me for just figuratively raping your ass

Not sure what your exact point is.  No reasonable person expects Obama to fill out a different form then all other presidents (in fact it would be illegal I would imagine).  However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Read the first 5 comments and tell me that they provide, in any way, any sort of insightful or meaningful thought.  It is defending Obama when he has not been attacked, it is simply ridiculous.  My original point was that coming into these discussions you KNOW that that will be the Weenerss, which is depressing for a site that I actually used to see some interesting points and discussion.

If your whole assertion is that we are defending him instead of looking at the process, I agree. But who f*cking started it?  The article and subby, god damnit.  Why don't you go after them?  They're the bullsh*t a ...


Of all the "classic" trolling styles, I find this one - the unholy love child of willful obtuseness and concern trolling - to be perhaps the most tedious.
 
2013-05-16 03:22:31 PM
Pretty paltry NW considering other presidents... But begrudging some people what they've earned can be an important component of bitter nostalgia.
 
2013-05-16 03:28:20 PM
coeyagi:

You are if you defend by proxy (by not highlighting the fact) that a) the GOP and other cons have spend 5 f*cking years doing nothing but ripping on the President instead of their f*cking job and b) we get bombarded by sh*t headlines like this all the time, so we rip on subby and the other mongoloids who subscribe to that characterization.

Why don't you go after the instigators?  You have an agenda, you have no interest in root cause analysis so f*cking admit it and stop wasting our time.


Agree with a) on many many levels....but this is not one of those cases.  As for b) again this would not have been an issue if it was reversed, so it is not disingenuous headlines that bother people but attacks on Obama
 
2013-05-16 03:28:58 PM

coeyagi: You have an agenda, you have no interest in root cause analysis so f*cking admit it and stop wasting our time.


Ctrl-F4, bro.
 
2013-05-16 03:37:32 PM
So... Was there a point to this link beyond blatant trolling?

I thought not.

Dear modmins,
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-16 03:40:29 PM

UNHbeta19: Tor_Eckman:

First five comments?

1.  Who cares?
2.  Perennially butthurt right wingers
3.  The jealousy is dripping off of you, subby.
Conservatives hate a self-made man.
4.  They sound uppity.
5.  Name a President that wasn't part of ...

My point was that they contributed nothing.
1.  Would be exact opposite if it was anybody with an (R)
2.  Pretty clear this person didn't read the article just jumping into the defense without having a clue as to what is going on
3-4: Just meaningless
5.  this one is actually a good point and kind of addresses an issue, not necessarily the one brought up, but one that our country really should think about for a bit (oh and Andrew Jackson would probably meet the criteria  although he had a lot of regional power due to his military service, so even he is debatable...)


I don't know if you need the "Welcome to Fark" pic or the "Well Bye" pic.

If you are outraged by posts that "contribute nothing" (in your expert, esteemed opinion) I don't know wtf you are doing here.  Maybe you should try /r/conservative.  Might be more to your liking.

Frankly, this thread was over after the very Boobies.  The rest is just masturbation.  Or in your case, manufactured outrage.
 
2013-05-16 03:41:47 PM

UNHbeta19: However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"


Any submission that is headlined with "who are you to ask questions of our liege", that isn't literally about a tyrant persecuting his opponents is not designed for interesting discussion.
 
2013-05-16 03:43:58 PM
Do these farkwads know just how many Americans fall into that range? Around 2 million!

Big deal. STFU, he's in office for another couple years. Get over it already.
 
2013-05-16 03:44:12 PM

ManRay: Danger Mouse: Romeny runs for office and every day you hear about his wealth, how much money he has, and rumors are spread about his tax returns.

Actually ask what a sitting President is worth and the libtards scream.

Actually a better comparison would be the treatment Kerry got in 2004. He was richer than Romney was when he ran.


You mean making fun of Purple Heart Veterans and attacking his wife for being a wealthy heiress?
 
2013-05-16 03:44:25 PM
Come to think of it I've never seen Obama's birth certificate either!

What is he hiding?!
 
2013-05-16 03:44:31 PM
Tor_Eckman:
I don't know if you need the "Welcome to Fark" pic or the "Well Bye" pic.

If you are outraged by posts that "contribute nothing" (in your expert, esteemed opinion) I don't know wtf you are doing here.  Maybe you should try /r/conservative.  Might be more to your liking.

Frankly, this thread was over after the very Boobies.  The rest is just masturbation.  Or in your case, manufactured outrage.


How apropos that you recommend the "Welcome to Fark" Pic and get filter pwned in the same post....
 
2013-05-16 03:47:03 PM
UNHbeta19: drip drivel


What the fark is that all about?

I sense dusty alt
 
2013-05-16 03:50:10 PM

BSABSVR: UNHbeta19: However shouldn't this article illicit more of a discussion of whether it is an effective process, rather then making it "OBAMA GOOD, WHY YOU HATE OBAMA? YOU STUPID"

Any submission that is headlined with "who are you to ask questions of our liege", that isn't literally about a tyrant persecuting his opponents is not designed for interesting discussion.


And no, I'm not outraged that Jon Boehner is using the same method.  Financial disclosures always have ranges.
 
2013-05-16 03:51:20 PM

UNHbeta19: Tor_Eckman:
I don't know if you need the "Welcome to Fark" pic or the "Well Bye" pic.

If you are outraged by posts that "contribute nothing" (in your expert, esteemed opinion) I don't know wtf you are doing here.  Maybe you should try /r/conservative.  Might be more to your liking.

Frankly, this thread was over after the very Boobies.  The rest is just masturbation.  Or in your case, manufactured outrage.

How apropos that you recommend the "Welcome to Fark" Pic and get filter pwned in the same post....


You've been around for 11 years and you don't know the meaning of the "Welcome to Fark" pic.

Interesting.
 
2013-05-16 03:52:31 PM

Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.

Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy. That's why they have no patience for people like George Soros who call for "tax reform" and yet CHOOSE not to donate all their extra money to the IRS. You know that you're allowed to do that, right? If you feel like the government should have more money or that your taxes aren't high enough, you can give all your extra money to the IRS. Hell, they'll need it pay bail with all these investigations going on. But what does it say when a man like Soros wants all of US to pay more, but he's not willing to give any more in the first place? It says HYPOCRITE.

And Al Gore. Don't even get me started on Al Gore and all his environmentalists goons. These people want us to live in the dark ages and not have electricity and worship Mother Earth, which they call Gaya, no surprise there, and yet they live in their 20,000 square foot mansions and jet all over the world in their jet planes burning oil just for the heck of it. "Do as I say, not as I do," that's the mantra. Well, you know what that says? HYPOCRITE. That's what.

And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to know, they'd lame ...


You're about to tip over your high-chair.
 
2013-05-16 03:54:25 PM
It's going to be great in the next Presidential election when the Republican Candidate releases:

His/Her (who am I kidding?) birth certificate
His long form birth certificate
Last 10 years of his Tax forms
His health records

----------------------------------------------
Then they would be just barely as open as the "imperial" President.  It would say alot about the candidate's character if he didn't release these records, we know how much that means to conservatives.

Now since he would surely loose votes for being hypocritical he will also release:

All of his school transcripts.
His net worth.



/The conservatives would not only be silent about wanting any of this information released they would fight the traitor liberals tooth and nail to prevent releasing even what Obama has already released.
 
2013-05-16 03:55:11 PM
who cares? Is there a cut-off where we throw him out of the White House or something? Because that would sure impact every future election ever.
 
2013-05-16 03:57:27 PM
Foundling:

fishhook.jpg


(seriously, are you ALL that gullible?  Have you never been to FARK before?)
 
2013-05-16 03:57:32 PM

Tor_Eckman: UNHbeta19: Tor_Eckman:
I don't know if you need the "Welcome to Fark" pic or the "Well Bye" pic.

If you are outraged by posts that "contribute nothing" (in your expert, esteemed opinion) I don't know wtf you are doing here.  Maybe you should try /r/conservative.  Might be more to your liking.

Frankly, this thread was over after the very Boobies.  The rest is just masturbation.  Or in your case, manufactured outrage.

How apropos that you recommend the "Welcome to Fark" Pic and get filter pwned in the same post....

You've been around for 11 years and you don't know the meaning of the "Welcome to Fark" pic.

Interesting.


I understand it perfectly...not sure where you got the idea I didn't...
 
2013-05-16 04:03:08 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Foundling:

fishhook.jpg


(seriously, are you ALL that gullible?  Have you never been to FARK before?)


It's pretty damned funny, really.
 
2013-05-16 04:07:55 PM

BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Foundling:

fishhook.jpg


(seriously, are you ALL that gullible?  Have you never been to FARK before?)

It's pretty damned funny, really.


It really is, and I don't know why I'm always so surprised by it.
 
2013-05-16 04:19:02 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Foundling:

fishhook.jpg


(seriously, are you ALL that gullible?  Have you never been to FARK before?)

It's pretty damned funny, really.

It really is, and I don't know why I'm always so surprised by it.


Seeing  Pocket Ninja get bites in a thread always makes me smile.  Same with  spentmiles.
 
2013-05-16 04:22:27 PM
I don't seem to remember getting an itemized list of the Clinton assets.  Why does shiat like this only matter when a Republican is in office?
 
2013-05-16 04:26:49 PM

BMulligan: elchip: jehovahs witness protection: Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

Wow, you're literally calling for a black man to be lynched.  I think the infection has gone to your head.

Why would you say that? His head contains no vital organs.


Wow. The the most intelligent president since Carter is teh dum?
 
2013-05-16 04:29:58 PM

Foundling: Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: If you'd like him to be more specific, you should petition your representatives in the federal government to revise the disclosure forms to require more specificity. Of course, they won't, because then THEY would have to be more specific as well. But that is probably still Obama's fault somehow.

Look, buddy. If there's one thing the Right can't stand, it's hypocrisy. That's why they have no patience for people like George Soros who call for "tax reform" and yet CHOOSE not to donate all their extra money to the IRS. You know that you're allowed to do that, right? If you feel like the government should have more money or that your taxes aren't high enough, you can give all your extra money to the IRS. Hell, they'll need it pay bail with all these investigations going on. But what does it say when a man like Soros wants all of US to pay more, but he's not willing to give any more in the first place? It says HYPOCRITE.

And Al Gore. Don't even get me started on Al Gore and all his environmentalists goons. These people want us to live in the dark ages and not have electricity and worship Mother Earth, which they call Gaya, no surprise there, and yet they live in their 20,000 square foot mansions and jet all over the world in their jet planes burning oil just for the heck of it. "Do as I say, not as I do," that's the mantra. Well, you know what that says? HYPOCRITE. That's what.

And so here we are with Obama's taxes. What was it that liberals were wetting their pants over during the 2012 election? What was that, again? Oh, that's right -- Mitt Romney's taxes. His net worth. They wanted to know everything about him, every little worker he fired and every little corporation he chopped up and every little show horse he purchased for his wife. Tell us more, tell us more, they kept screaming. I've told you what I have to, he'd intone. Not enough, not enough, they'd whimper. I'm following the law, he'd say. We don't care about the law, we want to know, they'd lame ...

You're about to tip over your high-chair.


Check your sarcasm meter, chief.
 
2013-05-16 04:31:25 PM

Katolu: BMulligan: elchip: jehovahs witness protection: Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

Wow, you're literally calling for a black man to be lynched.  I think the infection has gone to your head.

Why would you say that? His head contains no vital organs.

Wow. The the most intelligent president since Carter is teh dum?


jehovahs witness protection is the most intelligent president since Carter? Who knew?
 
2013-05-16 04:38:36 PM
I heard the inside Benghazi job cost somewhere between $0 and $4 million.
 
2013-05-16 04:39:42 PM

BMulligan: Katolu: BMulligan: elchip: jehovahs witness protection: Well, I would go farther and mention the gallows, but the senate will never allow barry to be tried for treason.

Wow, you're literally calling for a black man to be lynched.  I think the infection has gone to your head.

Why would you say that? His head contains no vital organs.

Wow. The the most intelligent president since Carter is teh dum?

jehovahs witness protection is the most intelligent president since Carter? Who knew?


It's supposed to be a secret!
 
2013-05-16 05:46:07 PM

TalenLee: Dust: Who cares?

I concur. But I particularly like how the idea of him being worth 6 million is somehow something problematic, when you remember that the last two guys the Republicans put forwards were worth about six to twenty times as much.


Yeah but those guys were heroic job creators, while Obama got his money from ghostwriting books with Bin Laden, kickbacks from obamaphones, and the ever lucrative terrorist fist bump industry.
 
2013-05-16 05:52:49 PM

BMulligan: fsbilly: bdub77: RexTalionis: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Harry Truman.

He was part of the social elite. That's how he became President.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't know - the United States Senate seems like it might be a good place to run into the social elite.


So is valeting cars. Know what I mean?
 
2013-05-16 07:06:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_net_ w orth

With the exception of Truman, Obama is the "poor"-est president since the Great Depression and in the bottom half of all 44 presidents.  But he's black, so it's completely different.
 
2013-05-16 08:52:56 PM

dookdookdook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_net_ w orth

With the exception of Truman, Obama is the "poor"-est president since the Great Depression and in the bottom half of all 44 presidents.  But he's black, so it's completely different.


So we should feel bad for him because he's the poorest millionaire?
 
2013-05-16 09:21:20 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: So we should feel bad for him because he's the poorest millionaire?


No, it means we shouldn't listen to right wing faux outrage trying to portray Obama as the richest rich guy since Richie Rich.
 
2013-05-16 11:51:24 PM
This is what you're going with now?  Really?  We're back to "he's an out of touch elitist rich guy?"  This from the people that are still crying over the fact that Mitt Romney isn't President?  Really?  And you wonder why sane people don't give a shiat what you think?
 
2013-05-17 12:19:11 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: PreMortem: PC LOAD LETTER: Name a President that wasn't part of the elite, either socially or financially.

Truman

Grant


A VP and a 4 star general were not part of the elite? I am not talking about when they were young. I mean by the time they were in power. Andy Jackson was hobnobbing with society when he ran for President, and he had arguably the humblest roots of any President. You become the elite, THEN you get in the seat.
 
2013-05-17 03:02:48 AM
So it's comparable to his four or five most recent predecessors?
 
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