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(Daily Dot)   Disney backs down after furor erupted over making Brave princess older and sexier, leaving her young, wild and...um, hey Disney execs, why don't you have a seat over there?   (dailydot.com) divider line 126
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2013-05-16 08:08:34 AM  
The new one still had a fat face.
 
2013-05-16 08:12:02 AM  
Tough call, independent female or cleavage
 
2013-05-16 08:14:37 AM  
Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.
 
2013-05-16 08:15:15 AM  

Cheron: Tough call, independent female or cleavage


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-05-16 08:18:26 AM  
Merida looks hot anyway in the movie. Disney just slutted her up in the later drawings.
 
2013-05-16 08:18:54 AM  
HURRAY!
 
2013-05-16 08:19:23 AM  
But are they working on a Merida / Ariel short where they scissor?
 
2013-05-16 08:26:19 AM  
That article actually contained the phrase "princesses of color."
 
2013-05-16 08:27:41 AM  
I've said it a thousand times, and I'll say it a thousand more:

www.behindthehype.com

"You have to wear the purity rings, because that's how we can sell sex to little girls. Ha-ha. You see, if we make the posters of little girls reaching for your junk, then you have to wear the purity rings, or else Disney company looks bad. Ha-ha."

/this is merely Disney's MO
 
2013-05-16 08:32:17 AM  

jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.


The first person to complain was the writer/director of the film, so that makes sense.
 
2013-05-16 08:33:41 AM  

Milo Minderbinder: That article actually contained the phrase "princesses of color."


I almost spat my coffee out when I read that.
 
2013-05-16 08:46:47 AM  

Milo Minderbinder: That article actually contained the phrase "princesses of color."


We're through the looking glass here, people!
 
2013-05-16 08:47:08 AM  

jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.


Yep
 
2013-05-16 08:48:25 AM  

jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.


Gotta start somewhere

/Rally 'round Merida with a pocket full of shells!
 
2013-05-16 08:55:16 AM  
Slutty Merida looks like she serves The Lord of Light
 
2013-05-16 08:55:23 AM  

jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.


I've often wondered why, if everyone is so goddamn wonderful, capable, and empowered, that the people who have an issue with this don't start their own movie studio and make movies exactly how they want. It's what men would do.
 
2013-05-16 09:02:03 AM  
Tarting up a beloved children's cartoon character is a dangerous game.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-16 09:05:38 AM  

WhippingBoy: It's what men would do.


BINGO.
 
2013-05-16 09:05:40 AM  
I'm confused as to why this would be such a big deal.  Tomboys, as they get older, often come into their own and reconcile their feminine side with their "boyish" tendencies.  Hell, most I've known use their feminine wiles to get men to underestimate them, and then kick their ass at basketball or something.

Part of Merida's deal was that when she married, it would be for love and not politics.  She didn't oppose the idea itself, just that she wanted to live her own life.  Why does that mean she has to remain sexless forever?
 
2013-05-16 09:07:11 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Tarting up a beloved children's cartoon character is a dangerous game.

[i.imgur.com image 261x254]


Even more so when the actress playing the part is 14.

/go have a seat over there.
 
2013-05-16 09:08:25 AM  
:rolleyes: Yeah lets make everyone care a little less about this stinker of a movie than they already did by injecting yet more preachy messages into its marketing.
 
2013-05-16 09:10:14 AM  

WhippingBoy: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

I've often wondered why, if everyone is so goddamn wonderful, capable, and empowered, that the people who have an issue with this don't start their own movie studio and make movies exactly how they want. It's what men would do.


Probably because they're not.  It's another Hollywood fairytale.
 
2013-05-16 09:11:44 AM  

Shadowknight: I'm confused as to why this would be such a big deal.  Tomboys, as they get older, often come into their own and reconcile their feminine side with their "boyish" tendencies.  Hell, most I've known use their feminine wiles to get men to underestimate them, and then kick their ass at basketball or something.

Part of Merida's deal was that when she married, it would be for love and not politics.  She didn't oppose the idea itself, just that she wanted to live her own life.  Why does that mean she has to remain sexless forever?



She never was "sexless."  It's that she wasn't the perfect Barbie-ish princess with the tiny waist, perfect hair, and glittery ball-gown. She was drawn as a role model that was imperfect, knew it, and was happy with being who she was instead of someone else's idea of what she should be.
 
2013-05-16 09:12:06 AM  

give me doughnuts: Even more so when the actress playing the part is 14.

/go have a seat over there.


No need to exaggerate. She's 15 now.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-16 09:14:26 AM  
Public reaction to the changes Disney was making:

media.sdreader.com
 
2013-05-16 09:14:41 AM  
They're going to tramp up Dory instead.
 
2013-05-16 09:17:50 AM  

Wellon Dowd: give me doughnuts: Even more so when the actress playing the part is 14.

/go have a seat over there.

No need to exaggerate. She's 15 now.

[i.imgur.com image 525x492]


/already "having a seat over there"
 
2013-05-16 09:18:40 AM  

give me doughnuts: Wellon Dowd: give me doughnuts: Even more so when the actress playing the part is 14.

/go have a seat over there.

No need to exaggerate. She's 15 now.

[i.imgur.com image 525x492]

/already "having a seat over there"


Save some room for me.
 
2013-05-16 09:24:51 AM  

jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.


As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.
 
2013-05-16 09:30:15 AM  

bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.


As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?
 
2013-05-16 09:36:00 AM  

WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?


Of course I do- and at home, we don't watch them (really, we don't have time).  That doesn't mean she doesn't know about them or like them, though.  She's in preschool and in dance, so it's impossible to keep the other girls in there from showing or telling her about stuff.  And she stays with her grandparents for 4 weeks each summer, and she and my mom watch those movies.  Am I supposed to put her in a vacuum?  The point isn't to keep her ignorant, it's to teach her about stuff.
 
2013-05-16 09:37:26 AM  
What is even the difference between those two pictures? In one of them she is holding a bow?
 
2013-05-16 09:38:22 AM  

WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?


I don't even have kids, and I know that this is unrealistic. Are you going to keep your child at home 24/7? No outside information of any kind? No exposure to other children, other people?
 
2013-05-16 09:40:22 AM  

bborchar: WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?

Of course I do- and at home, we don't watch them (really, we don't have time).  That doesn't mean she doesn't know about them or like them, though.  She's in preschool and in dance, so it's impossible to keep the other girls in there from showing or telling her about stuff.  And she stays with her grandparents for 4 weeks each summer, and she and my mom watch those movies.  Am I supposed to put her in a vacuum?  The point isn't to keep her ignorant, it's to teach her about stuff.


Instead of making excuses, you should be teaching her yourself, not expecting that Disney change their IP so that you don't have to parent. She's going to be exposed to a lot worse things than a Disney Princess.
 
2013-05-16 09:45:26 AM  

WhippingBoy: bborchar: WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?

Of course I do- and at home, we don't watch them (really, we don't have time).  That doesn't mean she doesn't know about them or like them, though.  She's in preschool and in dance, so it's impossible to keep the other girls in there from showing or telling her about stuff.  And she stays with her grandparents for 4 weeks each summer, and she and my mom watch those movies.  Am I supposed to put her in a vacuum?  The point isn't to keep her ignorant, it's to teach her about stuff.

Instead of making excuses, you should be teaching her yourself, not expecting that Disney change their IP so that you don't have to parent. She's going to be exposed to a lot worse things than a Disney Princess.


Okay, you explain reason to a 4 year old and see how you fare.  And I wasn't expecting Disney to change anything- I was expecting them to keep the character the same instead of sexing a young girl up.  If you don't understand that, then I'm not sure why you are here.
 
2013-05-16 09:46:41 AM  

give me doughnuts: WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?

I don't even have kids, and I know that this is unrealistic. Are you going to keep your child at home 24/7? No outside information of any kind? No exposure to other children, other people?


All I'm saying is that if you don't like what Disney is selling, don't buy it.
 
2013-05-16 09:53:52 AM  

WhippingBoy: bborchar: WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?

Of course I do- and at home, we don't watch them (really, we don't have time).  That doesn't mean she doesn't know about them or like them, though.  She's in preschool and in dance, so it's impossible to keep the other girls in there from showing or telling her about stuff.  And she stays with her grandparents for 4 weeks each summer, and she and my mom watch those movies.  Am I supposed to put her in a vacuum?  The point isn't to keep her ignorant, it's to teach her about stuff.

Instead of making excuses, you should be teaching her yourself, not expecting that Disney change their IP so that you don't have to parent. She's going to be exposed to a lot worse things than a Disney Princess.


notsureifserious.jpg

At the risk of feeding a troll.....I don't think you're barking up the right tree here. I don't see excuses, I see a parent that's actually doing their job by talking to her kid and putting things into context. Nowhere in the post does is say OMG DISNEY OUTRAGE GTFO OR I'LL SUE or whatever - she's talking to her daughter, giving her choices, and teaching her that her self-worth isn't based on her looks or her ability to attract men. That's a really, really, really good thing.
 
2013-05-16 09:55:11 AM  

bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.


As someone who thinks a lot of things feminists take issue with are a joke, I agree with you on this. Princesses are crappy role models, and if I had a daughter I would definitely try to encourage her to look up to someone who is good at something other than just looking pretty.
 
2013-05-16 09:56:05 AM  

Welfare Peanut Butter: WhippingBoy: bborchar: WhippingBoy: bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.

As a mother of a 4 year old daughter, don't you get to choose which movies your daughter watches?
Isn't it your job (not Disney's) to teach your daughter not to depend on anyone other than themselves, etc.?

Of course I do- and at home, we don't watch them (really, we don't have time).  That doesn't mean she doesn't know about them or like them, though.  She's in preschool and in dance, so it's impossible to keep the other girls in there from showing or telling her about stuff.  And she stays with her grandparents for 4 weeks each summer, and she and my mom watch those movies.  Am I supposed to put her in a vacuum?  The point isn't to keep her ignorant, it's to teach her about stuff.

Instead of making excuses, you should be teaching her yourself, not expecting that Disney change their IP so that you don't have to parent. She's going to be exposed to a lot worse things than a Disney Princess.

notsureifserious.jpg

At the risk of feeding a troll.....I don't think you're barking up the right ...


Fair enough. I guess I read it as "I personally find these changes objectionable, so I expect them to cater to my desires". More coffee for me is required, it would seem.
 
2013-05-16 09:59:14 AM  

Shadowknight: I'm confused as to why this would be such a big deal.  Tomboys, as they get older, often come into their own and reconcile their feminine side with their "boyish" tendencies.  Hell, most I've known use their feminine wiles to get men to underestimate them, and then kick their ass at basketball or something.

Part of Merida's deal was that when she married, it would be for love and not politics.  She didn't oppose the idea itself, just that she wanted to live her own life.  Why does that mean she has to remain sexless forever?


you know how i can tell you're a guy?
 
2013-05-16 10:01:44 AM  

jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.


no, this is why
 
2013-05-16 10:02:13 AM  

Hoboclown: What is even the difference between those two pictures? In one of them she is holding a bow?


Yeah. Can someone explain what is so objectionable about this? I'm just not seeing much of a difference.
 
2013-05-16 10:06:38 AM  

bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.


As the father of a 4-year-old daughter, I entirely agree.
 
2013-05-16 10:10:32 AM  

WhippingBoy: Hoboclown: What is even the difference between those two pictures? In one of them she is holding a bow?

Yeah. Can someone explain what is so objectionable about this? I'm just not seeing much of a difference.


To put it simply, they took a character famous for not being another generic Disney princess and they changed her to look more like a generic Disney princess. No, it's not worthy of "Outrage!" but it was a stupid decision.
 
2013-05-16 10:12:35 AM  
I'm curious, why is it a raging issue for girls role models about things like this, but there is never a come around for male role models, in the same way?

Aladdin wasn't a great one. A liar and a cheat and a thug? Hyper accentuated pecks and musculature, perfect hair, magical buddies? Lion king teaching me that I could get lost and be adopted by a creepy older pair of dudes? Etc.
 
2013-05-16 10:12:46 AM  

bborchar: jackrazz: Some people have way too much time on their hands.  All of the things to be justifiably outraged about, and they pick a cartoon?

This is why "feminism" is considered to be such a derogatory term by so many people.

As the mother of a 4 year old daughter who is starting to notice these things, I care.  Girls need more role models of the "Smart and talented" type instead of the "Pretty and Thin" type, and it's hard to find those.  At first, my daughter didn't like Merida because she WASN'T pretty or sang, but now she likes that Merida can shoot arrows and ride horses.  And I don't consider it "feminism"- it's giving little girls something else to care about other than looks and pleasing men.  They also need to learn not to depend on anyone other than themselves, because how many women get stuck in bad relationships?  If you don't feel this is worth your time, then move on- but it IS important to people with young daughters.


Yeah, pretty much THIS.  I'm the father of a 4 year old girl, and Brave is currently her favorite movie.  Makes the wife cry every time we watch it, too, because she knows that the 4 year old and her will probably get into it just like the character & her mom do.  Ah well, such is life.

I think the biggest issue is that people were finally happy to have a Disney princess that wasn't all about finding a prince and getting married.  The tired formula has the story end as soon as the girl finds her man, as if that's the solution to everything in life.  It's unrealistic & if you're being honest, sends a really dangerous message to little girls.

To then take that breath of fresh air that was Merida, and cut a huge wet fart in it, pissed off a lot of parents of young girls that are trying to do the right thing.  Glad Disney backed off.
 
2013-05-16 10:13:51 AM  

kroonermanblack: I'm curious, why is it a raging issue for girls role models about things like this, but there is never a come around for male role models, in the same way?

Aladdin wasn't a great one. A liar and a cheat and a thug? Hyper accentuated pecks and musculature, perfect hair, magical buddies? Lion king teaching me that I could get lost and be adopted by a creepy older pair of dudes? Etc.


Because double standard.

...more to come later
 
2013-05-16 10:14:25 AM  

kroonermanblack: I'm curious, why is it a raging issue for girls role models about things like this, but there is never a come around for male role models, in the same way?

Aladdin wasn't a great one. A liar and a cheat and a thug? Hyper accentuated pecks and musculature, perfect hair, magical buddies? Lion king teaching me that I could get lost and be adopted by a creepy older pair of dudes? Etc.


Because men don't model their lives based on what they see in animated cartoons.
 
2013-05-16 10:15:48 AM  

browntimmy: WhippingBoy: Hoboclown: What is even the difference between those two pictures? In one of them she is holding a bow?

Yeah. Can someone explain what is so objectionable about this? I'm just not seeing much of a difference.

To put it simply, they took a character famous for not being another generic Disney princess and they changed her to look more like a generic Disney princess. No, it's not worthy of "Outrage!" but it was a stupid decision.


But *how* did they change her? I'm just not seeing that much of a difference. Are there better examples of the "new" character than what's in the article?
 
2013-05-16 10:19:08 AM  

SubBass49: kroonermanblack: I'm curious, why is it a raging issue for girls role models about things like this, but there is never a come around for male role models, in the same way?

Aladdin wasn't a great one. A liar and a cheat and a thug? Hyper accentuated pecks and musculature, perfect hair, magical buddies? Lion king teaching me that I could get lost and be adopted by a creepy older pair of dudes? Etc.

Because double standard.

...more to come later


Guys being in power for so long gave us the decision-making power in the places that matter, such as studios & board rooms.  With that reign of power came the impression that we were invincible (men as a whole).  Therefore no one really seems to express any outrage when males in kids films are portrayed as flawed heroes.  Your point about Aladdin & the Lion King.  I would also add Flynn from Tangled (liar & thief, objectified male), the spoiled rotten prince from Princess & the Frog (douchebag, rich & lazy), etc.  Sure, in the story the woman always redeems the male figure, but maybe that's part of the reason girls think they can "change" a loser guy if they just stick with him.

/all complete conjecture BTW
 
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