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2013-05-16 08:20:31 AM  
While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.
 
2013-05-16 08:33:05 AM  
This is a lighthouse.  Your call.
 
2013-05-16 08:43:31 AM  

Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.


Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.
 
2013-05-16 08:43:36 AM  
Ramming Speed!
 
2013-05-16 08:44:00 AM  

Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.


I think it was because the CO didn't standard rules of right of way, but Im not an expert at all things nautical though I have piloted my share of canoes.

I guess that would make me ready to serve in the Canadian navy.
 
2013-05-16 08:45:33 AM  
Helm! 108!

Helm 108,

/Obscure?
//I think not.
 
2013-05-16 08:45:49 AM  
userserve-ak.last.fm
"Huh huh, huh huh, they said 'areola'."
 
2013-05-16 08:46:44 AM  

INeedAName: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

I think it was because the CO didn't standard rules of right of way, but Im not an expert at all things nautical though I have piloted my share of canoes.

I guess that would make me ready to serve in the Canadian navy.


He understood the rules.  He was overwhelmed.

I feel for the guy.
 
2013-05-16 08:47:25 AM  
I asked in a thread once why there were so many collisions at sea when it seems like the rule is pretty straightforward. The consensus of Navy Farkers is that there are a lot of stupid people in the world and that sometimes they get to drive the boat.
 
2013-05-16 08:47:33 AM  
Idiots hotdogging in their "fast" cars between lumbering trucks on the interstates usually result in the same thing.
 
2013-05-16 08:47:34 AM  

Arkanaut: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.


Her ass was in that movie, too, I believe. Seagal got 4th billing.
 
2013-05-16 08:48:20 AM  

INeedAName: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

I think it was because the CO didn't standard rules of right of way, but Im not an expert at all things nautical though I have piloted my share of canoes.

I guess that would make me ready to serve in the Canadian navy.


You could always take command of one of our submarines. You know - those who tend to catch fire before we've even taken delivery from England.
 
2013-05-16 08:49:14 AM  
"We've been hit. Port side"

Yeah, that's what happened, dickheads.
 
2013-05-16 08:51:04 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: I asked in a thread once why there were so many collisions at sea when it seems like the rule is pretty straightforward. The consensus of Navy Farkers is that there are a lot of stupid people in the world and that sometimes they get to drive the boat.


Martin isn't stupid.  I'd love to know why he turned to port, but it's not really appropriate to ask him under these circumstances.  We weren't exactly friends when we were department heads together on LABOON...
 
2013-05-16 08:51:10 AM  
They are called Rules of the Road precisely to avoid these sorts of unfortunate events.  Had the captain followed The Rules, the collision would have most certainly been avoided.
 
2013-05-16 08:51:21 AM  
Disagreements aren't unheard of. A lower ranking officer has a duty to inform his/her commander of dissent, with deference to the rank. Under periods of high stress, the intensity of the disagreement is overlooked....unless the ranking officer is a complete twat about it.

That said, they did have at least one CIWS and a 5"-54 at their disposal. Fecking CIWS could've chewed the bow off that tanker....OK so there's the ensuing oil cleanup. Don't judge me.
 
2013-05-16 08:55:14 AM  

fappomatic: Disagreements aren't unheard of. A lower ranking officer has a duty to inform his/her commander of dissent, with deference to the rank. Under periods of high stress, the intensity of the disagreement is overlooked....unless the ranking officer is a complete twat about it.

That said, they did have at least one CIWS and a 5"-54 at their disposal. Fecking CIWS could've chewed the bow off that tanker....OK so there's the ensuing oil cleanup. Don't judge me.


I like the cut of your jib!!!
 
2013-05-16 08:56:41 AM  
The making of a future Carnival Cruise ship captain.

The whole thing is a bit of a "WTF are you doing?"
 
2013-05-16 08:56:47 AM  
The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.
 
2013-05-16 08:58:27 AM  
One ping only...
 
2013-05-16 08:58:30 AM  
Wasn't there a picture from a helicopter in the area at the time that captured the first near-miss? Or am I thinking of a different collision.
 
2013-05-16 08:59:02 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.


So much fail in so few words.
 
2013-05-16 09:02:45 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.


They saved him when the island flipped over, and he just stayed on the boat.
 
2013-05-16 09:04:24 AM  
Guess it's a little late to send him his Christmas present...

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-16 09:05:31 AM  

Christian Bale: Arkanaut: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.

Her ass was in that movie, too, I believe. Seagal got 4th billing.


5th billing bro....don't forget about Gary Busey.
 
2013-05-16 09:06:34 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.


Impressively racist. Did you forget to log into an alt before you vomited that stupidity into your keyboard?
 
2013-05-16 09:09:35 AM  

doyner: INeedAName: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

I think it was because the CO didn't standard rules of right of way, but Im not an expert at all things nautical though I have piloted my share of canoes.

I guess that would make me ready to serve in the Canadian navy.

He understood the rules.  He was overwhelmed.

I feel for the guy.


I don't. When he accepted the promotion, he accepted the responsibility to stay cool. If he wasn't up for it, there were plenty of other officers looking for a command and who were passed over to give him this one.
 
2013-05-16 09:09:50 AM  

P8ntfotch: Helm! 108!

Helm 108,

/Obscure?
//I think not.


Every time I hear the number 108, that scene flashes in my mind's eye.
 
2013-05-16 09:12:22 AM  

ficklefkrfark: Christian Bale: Arkanaut: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.

Her ass was in that movie, too, I believe. Seagal got 4th billing.

5th billing bro....don't forget about Gary Busey.


6th.  Tommy Lee Jones.
 
2013-05-16 09:12:30 AM  

Christian Bale: Arkanaut: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.

Her ass was in that movie, too, I believe. Seagal got 4th billing.


Gary Busey and Gary Busey's teeth were 5th and 6th.
 
2013-05-16 09:12:35 AM  
I was surprised that they called contacts "this guy". Granted I was only a PO2 (Operations Specialist) but I never heard such unprofessional and confused directions in all my time in and through my many times through the busiest sea lane in the world.
 
2013-05-16 09:13:17 AM  

ThunderPelvis: AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.

Impressively racist. Did you forget to log into an alt before you vomited that stupidity into your keyboard?


Why is it racist? I don't have anything against the Guamese. If they want to come to America and make a better life for themselves, I'm all for it, as long as they aren't sneaking in like other minority groups do.
 
2013-05-16 09:13:19 AM  

kendelrio: Fecking CIWS could've chewed the bow off that tanker.


O RLY? Perhaps you should take a look at the size of a supertanker first? A couple of point blank rounds from the Iowa might open a hole big enough for a destroyer to get through in the time required, if the turret happened to be pointed the right way and loaded. Maybe. Supertankers are BIG and no little CIWS is going to make an appreciable hole before ammo is depleted.
 
2013-05-16 09:14:08 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.


You better believe they'll be taking his green card now!  Unless he had an anchor baby, of course.
 
2013-05-16 09:14:23 AM  

ficklefkrfark: Christian Bale: Arkanaut: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.

Her ass was in that movie, too, I believe. Seagal got 4th billing.

5th billing bro....don't forget about Gary Busey.


Don't forget Tommy Lee Jones.... so 6th?
 
2013-05-16 09:14:47 AM  
Next thing you know they'll be expanding those programs to Puerto Ricans.
 
2013-05-16 09:14:50 AM  

ficklefkrfark: Christian Bale: Arkanaut: Pocket Ninja: While I'll admit that most of my experience in naval procedures comes from playing Battleship and watching Steven Seagal fight off the attackers in Under Siege, I'll say that I'm a little surprised that there seemed to be so much disagreement/arguing between the captain and...that other guy, the one driving the boat. I hope that's not normal.

Wait, Steven Seagal was in Under Siege?

//starring Erika Eleniak and Erika Eleniak's boobs.

Her ass was in that movie, too, I believe. Seagal got 4th billing.

5th billing bro....don't forget about Gary Busey.


No so fast dude, wasn't that the one with Tommy Lee Jones?
 
2013-05-16 09:15:33 AM  
Cmdr. Arriola?

What a boob.
 
2013-05-16 09:15:54 AM  

FLMountainMan: AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.

You better believe they'll be taking his green card now!  Unless he had an anchor baby, of course.


LOL.
cdn.9laughs.com
 
2013-05-16 09:17:14 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: I asked in a thread once why there were so many collisions at sea when it seems like the rule is pretty straightforward. The consensus of Navy Farkers is that there are a lot of stupid people in the world and that sometimes they get to drive the boat.


The best free entertainment you can get in New England is to get yourself a cooler and a lawn chair and set up at a local boat ramp.  Lakes and ponds are good but the real high-test fun is any number of municipal ones for the Ocean.

It equally combines the idiocy demonstrated on the high seas with morons behind the wheel and an equal dose of just having too much money and being out of the house on a nice warm day where they're entitled to their fun, all detractors be damned.

I'll watch that for hours on end.  It never gets old.
 
2013-05-16 09:17:41 AM  
Anyone want to explain what should have happened here?
 
2013-05-16 09:17:55 AM  
Richard Widmark: "If HE fires one, I'll fire one..."

James MacArthur: "Firing one!!!!!!"

Sydney Poitier: "No, you IDIOT!!!!"
 
2013-05-16 09:18:23 AM  

Eps05: You could always take command of one of our submarines. You know - those who tend to catch fire before we've even taken delivery from England.


Well, that's what you get for purchasing used pre-atomic submarines from someone who doesn't even give you their full name.
 
2013-05-16 09:19:14 AM  

pho75: Anyone want to explain what should have happened here?


Captain should have ordered a turn to starboard, which would have prevented the collision.
 
2013-05-16 09:20:42 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.


So the U.S. finally cut Guam loose? Huh.
 
2013-05-16 09:21:08 AM  

pho75: Anyone want to explain what should have happened here?


Captain should've listened to his first mate (the guy with the slight Southern accent)
 
2013-05-16 09:22:01 AM  

Albert911emt: AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.

So the U.S. finally cut Guam loose? Huh.


It was in danger of sinking after it capsized; we did what we had to do.
 
2013-05-16 09:22:17 AM  

CheatCommando: I don't. When he accepted the promotion, he accepted the responsibility to stay cool. If he wasn't up for it, there were plenty of other officers looking for a command and who were passed over to give him this one.


Empathy, not sympathy.
 
2013-05-16 09:23:19 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: I asked in a thread once why there were so many collisions at sea when it seems like the rule is pretty straightforward. The consensus of Navy Farkers is that there are a lot of stupid people in the world and that sometimes they get to drive the boat.


The rules say who should take action to prevent a collision, but they don't generally specify what action should be taken.
 
2013-05-16 09:25:23 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: ThunderPelvis: AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.

Impressively racist. Did you forget to log into an alt before you vomited that stupidity into your keyboard?

Why is it racist? I don't have anything against the Guamese. If they want to come to America and make a better life for themselves, I'm all for it, as long as they aren't sneaking in like other minority groups do.


FLMountainMan: AverageAmericanGuy: The Captain was from Guam. Probably in one of those accelerated citizenship programs the military's got running.

You better believe they'll be taking his green card now!  Unless he had an anchor baby, of course.


This just in: Guam is a territory of the United States, making its population citizens of the USA.
 
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