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2013-05-15 08:22:44 PM  
Stern can suck a dick.
 
2013-05-15 08:29:36 PM  
Dear Mr. Stern, I always figured you were a turd, but thanks for going above and beyond. I really am impressed.
 
2013-05-15 09:06:42 PM  
Actually, the Kings are an asset

/the f*cking Maloofs are the problem
//and I'm betting they refuse to sell to the Sacramento group
///they want two things: all the money they can get, and to say "f*ck you" to Sacramento
 
2013-05-15 09:48:01 PM  
The NBA has a fine business model... You say want a team? And that you're willing to record amounts for both a franchise and relocation fee? Sorry. We don't want that. We just want to sell local even if they miss every deadline and have a significantly lower bid. Oh, and we know you have an actual approved arena deal, but we'll bet on the city who has a *plan* and is being sued by their own citizens. Why do I think most of the NBA owners had someone else make their money for them?

/F--k Stern
//Unleash the anti-trust lawyers
 
2013-05-15 09:52:27 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Actually, the Kings are an asset

/the f*cking Maloofs are the problem
//and I'm betting they refuse to sell to the Sacramento group
///they want two things: all the money they can get, and to say "f*ck you" to Sacramento


The Magoofs are cokeheaded playboys who tried living the fast life with the Kings and the Palms Casino in Las Vegas. They sold their liquor distributorship (which was the sole reason they are rich to begin with) and lost the Palms, so now all they have are the Kings, minus a $73 million loan that they owe the City of Sacramento. They probably wouldn't sell the team, except that they cannot afford to be competitive any longer in the NBA. Complete farking idiots.

I expect that Sacramento will prevail, although negotiations will get nastier before the team is actually sold.
 
2013-05-15 09:55:12 PM  

GleeUnit: Stern can suck a dick.


whither_apophis: Dear Mr. Stern, I always figured you were a turd, but thanks for going above and beyond. I really am impressed.


Kell Hound: /F--k Stern  //Unleash the anti-trust lawyers


Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.
 
2013-05-15 09:55:20 PM  
Can someone explain the drawback to the NBA putting an expansion team in Seattle? Why does Stern seem so dead-set against it? Aside from being a chucklefark, that is.

/fark Stern
 
2013-05-15 10:01:19 PM  
I'm afraid most of the locals here are going to miss the forest for the trees by simply focusing on NOT getting the Sonics back (for now). This entire fiasco should have been more of a national story because, eliminating the two specific cities involved, it showed exactly why professional sports can be a farking joke.

The NBA, as you recall, had a lockout recently, where naturally, the league is going to argue that "competitive fairness" and "overall financial health" among all the teams is of the utmost importance, so you blame the players and roll back labor costs. 11th hour negotiations and bargaining during this mess included the Sacramento group offering to forego their rightful share of revenue sharing for future seasons, which Hansen reportedly was willing to match. If there was an ounce of ethics in the league office, BOTH parties would've been slapped for even suggesting such a thing and it would have moved off the table as nonsense and for their own good.

But, that didn't happen. That right there is all you need to know about David Stern and current cabal of owners.
 
2013-05-15 10:02:14 PM  

The correct answer is...: GleeUnit: Stern can suck a dick.

whither_apophis: Dear Mr. Stern, I always figured you were a turd, but thanks for going above and beyond. I really am impressed.

Kell Hound: /F--k Stern  //Unleash the anti-trust lawyers

Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.


lol seattle hate
 
2013-05-15 10:19:14 PM  
Let the lawsuits begin.
 
2013-05-15 10:29:12 PM  
The NBA makes it official: f*ck you, Seattle.


Well, I mean, the Kings aren't going to be successful in two or three years with arguably the best young draft pick since LeBron James, but that's another story.
 
2013-05-15 10:29:18 PM  

AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate


I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.


Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.
 
2013-05-15 10:34:44 PM  
FARK STERN! We know he hates Seattle. All of the owners have all flip-floped on the reasons why a team should stay where it is. They certainly didn't feel this way when that chuckle fark moved the Sonics to oaklahoma.

This isn't the first time that this has happened to Seattle. Way back in the '60's, we had oue first pro baseball team. The Seattle Pilots. After their first season, a young Bud Selig bought the team. "Oh, I'll keep them here. Trust me." he said.
The very next season they moved to Milwaukee and were renamed the Brewers.
Seattle sued the MLB, and we got the Mariners as an expansion team.

/OKC=Originally King County
//It can't be said enough FARK STERN!!
 
2013-05-15 10:36:00 PM  

The correct answer is...: AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate

I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.


There's already a lawsuit over the public financing of the arena

/tons of popcorn are yet to be eaten over this story
 
2013-05-15 10:36:25 PM  

The correct answer is...: Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.


More than that, I was under the impression that Stern/NBA is contractually obligated at this point to deliver the Seattle group a team within a couple years. So if it isn't Sacramento, someone else is going on the chopping block.
 
2013-05-15 10:40:55 PM  

Killer Cars: I'm afraid most of the locals here are going to miss the forest for the trees by simply focusing on NOT getting the Sonics back (for now). This entire fiasco should have been more of a national story because, eliminating the two specific cities involved, it showed exactly why professional sports can be a farking joke.

The NBA, as you recall, had a lockout recently, where naturally, the league is going to argue that "competitive fairness" and "overall financial health" among all the teams is of the utmost importance, so you blame the players and roll back labor costs. 11th hour negotiations and bargaining during this mess included the Sacramento group offering to forego their rightful share of revenue sharing for future seasons, which Hansen reportedly was willing to match. If there was an ounce of ethics in the league office, BOTH parties would've been slapped for even suggesting such a thing and it would have moved off the table as nonsense and for their own good.

But, that didn't happen. That right there is all you need to know about David Stern and current cabal of owners.


At the end of the day, this is really about (mostly) privately financed arenae not being part of the NBA business model.

'Nuff said, really. Small market teams like Milwaukee will now NOT be able to point to Seattle and say: 'Hey, those socialist farker up there did it, why should the taxpayers bend over here?'.
 
2013-05-15 10:45:26 PM  

Kell Hound: The NBA has a fine business model... You say want a team? And that you're willing to record amounts for both a franchise and relocation fee? Sorry. We don't want that. We just want to sell local even if they miss every deadline and have a significantly lower bid. Oh, and we know you have an actual approved arena deal, but we'll bet on the city who has a *plan* and is being sued by their own citizens. Why do I think most of the NBA owners had someone else make their money for them?

/F--k Stern
//Unleash the anti-trust lawyers


Maybe if your sorry-ass city would have stepped up in 2008 you wouldn't be whining today
 
2013-05-15 10:47:58 PM  

MFAWG: Killer Cars: I'm afraid most of the locals here are going to miss the forest for the trees by simply focusing on NOT getting the Sonics back (for now). This entire fiasco should have been more of a national story because, eliminating the two specific cities involved, it showed exactly why professional sports can be a farking joke.

The NBA, as you recall, had a lockout recently, where naturally, the league is going to argue that "competitive fairness" and "overall financial health" among all the teams is of the utmost importance, so you blame the players and roll back labor costs. 11th hour negotiations and bargaining during this mess included the Sacramento group offering to forego their rightful share of revenue sharing for future seasons, which Hansen reportedly was willing to match. If there was an ounce of ethics in the league office, BOTH parties would've been slapped for even suggesting such a thing and it would have moved off the table as nonsense and for their own good.

But, that didn't happen. That right there is all you need to know about David Stern and current cabal of owners.

At the end of the day, this is really about (mostly) privately financed arenae not being part of the NBA business model.

'Nuff said, really. Small market teams like Milwaukee will now NOT be able to point to Seattle and say: 'Hey, those socialist farker up there did it, why should the taxpayers bend over here?'.


This. Now the NBA can point to Sacramento and threaten with Seattle for cities that are reluctant to play ball on ponying up arena dough
 
2013-05-15 10:49:04 PM  

MFAWG: Killer Cars: I'm afraid most of the locals here are going to miss the forest for the trees by simply focusing on NOT getting the Sonics back (for now). This entire fiasco should have been more of a national story because, eliminating the two specific cities involved, it showed exactly why professional sports can be a farking joke.

The NBA, as you recall, had a lockout recently, where naturally, the league is going to argue that "competitive fairness" and "overall financial health" among all the teams is of the utmost importance, so you blame the players and roll back labor costs. 11th hour negotiations and bargaining during this mess included the Sacramento group offering to forego their rightful share of revenue sharing for future seasons, which Hansen reportedly was willing to match. If there was an ounce of ethics in the league office, BOTH parties would've been slapped for even suggesting such a thing and it would have moved off the table as nonsense and for their own good.

But, that didn't happen. That right there is all you need to know about David Stern and current cabal of owners.

At the end of the day, this is really about (mostly) privately financed arenae not being part of the NBA business model.

'Nuff said, really. Small market teams like Milwaukee will now NOT be able to point to Seattle and say: 'Hey, those socialist farker up there did it, why should the taxpayers bend over here?'.


Pretty much; Stern wants no part of "privately financed arenas" b/c this = Cities saying "Fark you! Pay your own way!"
 
2013-05-15 10:52:33 PM  
The most interesting part is that the fear of a privately financed arena was so great that all but 8 owners effectively voted to devalue an NBA team by trying to force the Maloofs to sell to a lower (but local) bidder.

But since this is the league that put the OKC owner in charge of the relocation committee this should come as no surprise. I'd still be interested in finding out who the 8 voters were. (Cuban? Most likely. Golden State's owner? Would make sense. And of course Maloofs makes 3.)
 
2013-05-15 10:52:34 PM  
For the record, I love sports, but I completely hate the arena financing aspect. All sports arenas should be 100% privately financed, period. Except for maybe Green Bay, for obvious reasons. But that's it.
 
2013-05-15 10:54:24 PM  

dogboy360: FARK STERN! We know he hates Seattle. All of the owners have all flip-floped on the reasons why a team should stay where it is. They certainly didn't feel this way when that chuckle fark moved the Sonics to oaklahoma.

This isn't the first time that this has happened to Seattle. Way back in the '60's, we had oue first pro baseball team. The Seattle Pilots. After their first season, a young Bud Selig bought the team. "Oh, I'll keep them here. Trust me." he said.
The very next season they moved to Milwaukee and were renamed the Brewers.
Seattle sued the MLB, and we got the Mariners as an expansion team.

/OKC=Originally King County
//It can't be said enough FARK STERN!!


If it's any consolation, we'll gladly give you the Bucks. They're regarded as an afterthought here unless they're REALLY good (see: 2001).
 
2013-05-15 11:00:29 PM  
Not that I am a huge basketball fan, but I remember when the Seattle Super Sonics mascot was The Wheedle.

/Yes, get off my lawn.
 
2013-05-15 11:02:15 PM  
I hope Stern gets cancer.
 
2013-05-15 11:05:08 PM  

NotEric: The most interesting part is that the fear of a privately financed arena was so great that all but 8 owners effectively voted to devalue an NBA team by trying to force the Maloofs to sell to a lower (but local) bidder.

But since this is the league that put the OKC owner in charge of the relocation committee this should come as no surprise. I'd still be interested in finding out who the 8 voters were. (Cuban? Most likely. Golden State's owner? Would make sense. And of course Maloofs makes 3.)


I don't think they devalued it at all. I think The correct answer is... is correct, and that $73 million loan will become part of the offer, Voila; offer matched and topped

/this of course assumes the loan forgiveness wasn't already part of the offer
//who knows what KJ has promised at this point
 
2013-05-15 11:10:26 PM  

puffy999: The NBA makes it official: f*ck you, Seattle.


Well, I mean, the Kings aren't going to be successful in two or three years with arguably the best young draft pick since LeBron James, but that's another story.


Well, there's a good chance the lottery gets rigged to hook up the new owners with a nice pick, like Benson got for buying the Hornets/Pelicans. Not sure they'll get a guaranteed star, but no one is, really. Sure, everyone says they knew certain players would be stars...but those same people also said a bunch of other No. 1s were guaranteed stars.
 
2013-05-15 11:11:07 PM  

The correct answer is...: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Actually, the Kings are an asset

/the f*cking Maloofs are the problem
//and I'm betting they refuse to sell to the Sacramento group
///they want two things: all the money they can get, and to say "f*ck you" to Sacramento

The Magoofs are cokeheaded playboys who tried living the fast life with the Kings and the Palms Casino in Las Vegas. They sold their liquor distributorship (which was the sole reason they are rich to begin with) and lost the Palms, so now all they have are the Kings, minus a $73 million loan that they owe the City of Sacramento. They probably wouldn't sell the team, except that they cannot afford to be competitive any longer in the NBA. Complete farking idiots.

I expect that Sacramento will prevail, although negotiations will get nastier before the team is actually sold.


As long as the end result is them going, so be it.
The two brothers that are more well known-Gavin and Joe-strike me as mouthpeices. George, the one who ran the Palm,IIRC, is the real power. He even had the great "it's not over" quote today after the vote. I get the vibe that he wants to really stick it to the city, that he had shot down the last arena deal they had in place. Deadspin had a really intersting collection of articles on how crummy the Maloofs are as human beings.
Really, as long as the end result is them being out of the league, the league wins in the long run.

Oh, and the "backup plan" the Seattle group supposidly had with the Maloofs was a joke and a nightmare rolled into one.
 
2013-05-15 11:11:35 PM  
Seattle people, this wasn't about you. Your anger at Stern is misplaced. This is about the Maloofs and public arena subsides. If Seattle had put public money up for an arena the Sonics never would've left. This way the NBA keeps the relocation threat real and gets the Maloofs out of the league without burning a market.

Rumor is Seattle is all but guaranteed an expansion team with the new tv contract, or another owner might be willing to take the big payday and cash out. The Hansen/Ballmer group's relationship with the Maloofs almost ruined that.
 
2013-05-15 11:15:27 PM  
They already rejected Samueli's bid to put them in Anaheim, why do you think that they'd accept this one for Seattle?
 
2013-05-15 11:18:59 PM  
Anyone that would leave Seattle for Oklahoma is a farking moran.

//If the planet needed an enema, tube -> OKC.
 
2013-05-15 11:21:29 PM  

Your_Huckleberry: As long as the end result is them going, so be it.
The two brothers that are more well known-Gavin and Joe-strike me as mouthpeices. George, the one who ran the Palm,IIRC, is the real power. He even had the great "it's not over" quote today after the vote. I get the vibe that he wants to really stick it to the city, that he had shot down the last arena deal they had in place. Deadspin had a really intersting collection of articles on how crummy the Maloofs are as human beings.
Really, as long as the end result is them being out of the league, the league wins in the long run.

Oh, and the "backup plan" the Seattle group supposidly had with the Maloofs was a joke and a nightmare rolled into one.


This

/George strikes me as an absolute asshole who's bitter about the loss of their financial empire and wants to hurt someone to get even. A tiny minded, mean-spirited bully who's not getting his way
//f*cking idiots wouldn't have diddly if it wasn't for Daddy
 
2013-05-15 11:40:45 PM  

MFAWG: At the end of the day, this is really about (mostly) privately financed arenae not being part of the NBA business model.


Agreed. The fact that two competing prospective ownership groups could publicly negotiate themselves into submitting proposals which puts them at a distinct competitive disadvantage with the rest of the league, and only have the rest of the league lick their chops at say "...go on...", not very long after the game is held hostage so we could be fed a line of bullshiat about the sanctity of league-wide competitive fairness was the icing on the cake.
 
2013-05-15 11:49:10 PM  

dogboy360: This isn't the first time that this has happened to Seattle. Way back in the '60's, we had oue first pro baseball team. The Seattle Pilots. After their first season, a young Bud Selig bought the team. "Oh, I'll keep them here. Trust me." he said.
The very next season they moved to Milwaukee and were renamed the Brewers.
Seattle sued the MLB, and we got the Mariners as an expansion team.



?! dafuq? Not to drag this whole discussion off topic but do you have a cite for Selig saying the Pilots would stay in Seattle? The whole point of him buying a team was to bring it to Milwaukee after the Braves skipped town in 1965. Anyone who thought Bud Selig would operate a baseball team anywhere outside of Milwaukee was an idiot. It just so happened that the Pilots' ownership was a bunch of chucklefarks who were in completely over their heads and should never have been awarded a team in the first place. They got the team sent to bankruptcy court. Once a business goes into bankruptcy, all bets are off as to what happens next. In that case, what happened next is that the judge decided that Selig's money was green enough and approved the sale, and off they went to County Stadium.

It's too bad we didn't have ESPN back then to cover spring training in 1970. The daily soap opera coming out of there would have been must-see TV.
 
2013-05-15 11:50:53 PM  

The correct answer is...: GleeUnit: Stern can suck a dick.

whither_apophis: Dear Mr. Stern, I always figured you were a turd, but thanks for going above and beyond. I really am impressed.

Kell Hound: /F--k Stern  //Unleash the anti-trust lawyers

Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.


I'm not mad the owners voted no to the move, it was Stern's "I'll keep this short, I got a game in OKC" comment. He just revealed his true level of classlessness.
 
2013-05-15 11:58:03 PM  

NotEric: The most interesting part is that the fear of a privately financed arena was so great that all but 8 owners effectively voted to devalue an NBA team by trying to force the Maloofs to sell to a lower (but local) bidder.

But since this is the league that put the OKC owner in charge of the relocation committee this should come as no surprise. I'd still be interested in finding out who the 8 voters were. (Cuban? Most likely. Golden State's owner? Would make sense. And of course Maloofs makes 3.)


Paul Allen
 
2013-05-16 12:07:13 AM  
I feel bad for Seattle basketball fans who will continue to be used by the NBA like a cheap whore.
 
2013-05-16 12:12:26 AM  
Clay Bennett must feel like Palpatine when Anakin turned on Mace.

That said, I'm not sure how much this has to do with private/public funding and how much with preventing half the NBA being parked in LA/NY/South Florida within ten years.
 
2013-05-16 12:19:56 AM  

The correct answer is...: AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate

I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.


You *do* realize that Sacramento had advance notice, and the fans in Seattle found out the day the ink was dry on the contract, right? Big difference.

If H/B chooses to pursue a lawsuit, they will win handsomely in court, yet forever be blacklisted from having a franchise in Seattle. Decisions, decisions.
 
2013-05-16 12:23:59 AM  
Screw David Stern.  I am a fan of a completely different NBA team and have no dog in this.  Stern is just a farking scumbag.

And those who laugh at Seattle for losing their team and claim those fans didn't stand up to fight for the Sonics can all die a fiery death.
 
2013-05-16 12:43:54 AM  

IntertubeUser: Anyone that would leave Seattle for Oklahoma is a farking moran.

//If the planet needed an enema, tube -> OKC.


OKC fan base might disagree
 
2013-05-16 12:58:32 AM  

whither_apophis: Dear Mr. Stern, I always figured you were a turd, but thanks for going above and beyond. I really am impressed.


I think it's pretty cool they didn't steal Sacramento's team, they love the Kings there. I know Seattle wants and deserves a team but stealing one from a good fanbase is farked, it would almost as screwy as OKC stealing the Sonics in the first place. Go get Milwaukee's or Charlotte's team, those towns don't give a fark.
 
2013-05-16 01:07:03 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: The correct answer is...: AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate

I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.

You *do* realize that Sacramento had advance notice, and the fans in Seattle found out the day the ink was dry on the contract, right? Big difference.

If H/B chooses to pursue a lawsuit, they will win handsomely in court, yet forever be blacklisted from having a franchise in Seattle. Decisions, decisions.


Incorrect. Sac had three months notice only because some daughter of an agent leaked the deal on twitter. Seattle had half a year to put an ownership group together and buy the team. The only bidders where Bennet and Ellison. Bennet gave a year of "good faith" effort to put an arena together, so he won the bid even though his bid was lower.

The fact is Seattle played chicken with the NBA and lost. I wished they had won. Public subsidies for arenas need to stop.
 
2013-05-16 01:11:37 AM  

The correct answer is...: The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed


I'm not paying one red cent for Predetermined Thugball.  If worse comes to worst, I'll leave this city first.
 
2013-05-16 01:17:17 AM  

buckeyebrain: The correct answer is...: The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed

I'm not paying one red cent for Predetermined Thugball.  If worse comes to worst, I'll leave this city first.


Come up here in the hills

/close enough to point and laugh
//far enough away not to pay
 
2013-05-16 01:19:19 AM  
People still call the NBA "thug ball"? It must suck to be a racist that thinks it's still 2002.
 
2013-05-16 01:42:46 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: buckeyebrain: The correct answer is...: The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed

I'm not paying one red cent for Predetermined Thugball.  If worse comes to worst, I'll leave this city first.

Come up here in the hills

/close enough to point and laugh
//far enough away not to pay


I love 'dem hills. Used to head up toward your neck of the woods for Christmas trees when I was a kid.
 
2013-05-16 01:46:43 AM  

dd12: Your Average Witty Fark User: The correct answer is...: AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate

I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.

You *do* realize that Sacramento had advance notice, and the fans in Seattle found out the day the ink was dry on the contract, right? Big difference.

If H/B chooses to pursue a lawsuit, they will win handsomely in court, yet forever be blacklisted from having a franchise in Seattle. Decisions, decisions.

Incorrect. Sac had three months notice only because some daughter of an agent leaked the deal on twitter. Seattle had half a year to put an ownership group together and buy the team. The only bidders where Bennet and Ellison. Bennet gave a year of "good faith" effort to put an arena together, so he won the bid even though his bid was lower.

The fact is Seattle played chicken with the NBA and lost. I wished they had won. Public subsidies for arenas need to stop.


No No No, Howard Schultz sold to Clay Bennett and his group without any real warning, then gave a press conference saying that they had every intention to keep the team in Seattle, while maintaining a mailing address in OKC.  Liars.
 
2013-05-16 02:02:04 AM  

dd12: Your Average Witty Fark User: The correct answer is...: AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate

I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.

You *do* realize that Sacramento had advance notice, and the fans in Seattle found out the day the ink was dry on the contract, right? Big difference.

If H/B chooses to pursue a lawsuit, they will win handsomely in court, yet forever be blacklisted from having a franchise in Seattle. Decisions, decisions.

Incorrect. Sac had three months notice only because some daughter of an agent leaked the deal on twitter. Seattle had half a year to put an ownership group together and buy the team. The only bidders where Bennet and Ellison. Bennet gave a year of "good faith" effort to put an arena together, so he won the bid even though his bid was lower.

The fact is Seattle played chicken with the NBA and lost. I wished they had won. Public subsidies for arenas need to stop.


Bzzzzzt.

Don Pardo, can you tell him now what he didn't win?


When the Supersonics originally left, they didn't find out until the sale was finalized to OKC, which Stern refused to re-allow competitive bids for because Contract.

Both Seattle and Sacramento had the same amount of time to scramble a team from the Maloofs (who are headed for Bankruptcy, probably, anyway). Seattle made the *better* offer, and Stern basically hung up on them.
 
2013-05-16 02:05:48 AM  

GleeUnit: Stern can suck a dick.


he does.   see clay in okc
 
2013-05-16 02:14:04 AM  

TheZorker: dd12: Your Average Witty Fark User: The correct answer is...: AirGee: The correct answer is...: Ahh, let the butthurt flow freely, Seattle. You've earned it.

lol seattle hate

I don't hate Seattle; actually I have a good deal of sympathy for them. I think it was a raw deal when the Sonics left for OKC, but the fact of the matter is their fans did not mobilize and defend their asset like the Sacramento community did, and that's partly why Sacramento kept their team and Seattle didn't.

Lost Thought 00: Let the lawsuits begin.

Yup. Here's how I think it will go down: The Kings were given a $73 million loan by the City of Sacramento several years ago, and little if any principal has been retired on that loan. The Magoofs will wind up getting that loan forgiven as a condition of selling to the Sacramento group; that should make the Sacramento offer equal, if not a bit better, than the Seattle group's last offer. The good taxpayers of Sacramento will be screwed, and will take it to court, but that's big city politics for ya. So long as the Magoofs wind up out of the picture, all else is good.

You *do* realize that Sacramento had advance notice, and the fans in Seattle found out the day the ink was dry on the contract, right? Big difference.

If H/B chooses to pursue a lawsuit, they will win handsomely in court, yet forever be blacklisted from having a franchise in Seattle. Decisions, decisions.

Incorrect. Sac had three months notice only because some daughter of an agent leaked the deal on twitter. Seattle had half a year to put an ownership group together and buy the team. The only bidders where Bennet and Ellison. Bennet gave a year of "good faith" effort to put an arena together, so he won the bid even though his bid was lower.

The fact is Seattle played chicken with the NBA and lost. I wished they had won. Public subsidies for arenas need to stop.

Bzzzzzt.

Don Pardo, can you tell him now what he didn't win?


When the Supersonics originally left, they didn't f ...


Wrong. Schultz was shopping the team for months, no local ownership group put in an offer, so he went with Bennett.

It wasn't a bidding war for the kings. H/B had an agreement together without any notification, or even acknowledging the team was for sale. A Sacramento group was put together in three months and matched the offer. The NBA decided to not move the team, not to not sell to Seattle. That is an important distinction here. Anyone that thinks the NBA doesn't want a team in the 11th largest TV market is crazy. They will get a team within the next 2 years.
 
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