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2013-05-15 08:46:35 PM  
Next up: giving kids detention for accidentally leaving a round in their locked vehicles after hunting instead of treating them like would-be school shooters.
 
2013-05-15 08:48:21 PM  

TheGogmagog: Spanky McStupid: Coolfusis: Infernalist: SilentStrider: Good.

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Myriad
 
2013-05-15 08:49:49 PM  

Pangit: So I read the original story. She was a minor but her name and Facebook picture was released by the media on the original story. I thought that was a no-no?


Not if her parents say, "Please, give our just cause free publicity."
 
2013-05-15 08:50:00 PM  

super_grass: Next up: giving kids detention for accidentally leaving a round magazine of clips in their locked vehicles after hunting instead of treating them like would-be school shooters.


FTFY
 
2013-05-15 08:53:21 PM  
My son went through juvenile diversion.  It involved picking up trash from the local park for a few hours.
 
2013-05-15 08:56:03 PM  

Bondith: MelGoesOnTour: 10-2-1 this gal has had problems in the past which her parents will never acknowledge being how she's a perfect angel. 20-2-1 she'll be popping out a little Sh'n'ai'ia in the next couple of years.

/also, that's not how you express odds.


Yeah, you're right about that, I guess.  But what can I say other than I hope I got my point across, one way or another.

/trust me that despite how you interpreted what I said, it's NOT the case that I'm being racist.
//I'm a half-breed myself.  You have no idea.  So go on being perfect and all.
 
2013-05-15 09:07:46 PM  
By the way, she wasn't going to jail for anything. The police arrested her on a charge based on her actions, which is what they do. Once the evidence was reviewed, the prosecutor declined in pressing charges. Stop acting like the internet saved her from prison.
 
2013-05-15 09:10:28 PM  

Pangit: So I read the original story. She was a minor but her name and Facebook picture was released by the media on the original story. I thought that was a no-no?


Yup and her name and picture was included in this article and others. I hope this doesn't affect her abilty to get into college and get a job after she gets googled.
 
2013-05-15 09:11:49 PM  

Gyrfalcon: gweilo8888: nipner: I never said that she shouldn't have been suspended for a few days...  My point is that kids now are going to JAIL ferchristssake....  They are getting permanent arrest records now, for stuff that used to be handled by schools/parents.  It's ridiculous.  "Back in my day" the cops or other parents who caught us would call our parents and take us home, or schools would punish you with suspension/detention.  This girl does not need to be in alternative school and a scared-straight program for one farking mistake.

/hate that you make me sound old...

You equated the "harmless fun" of your youth with the dangerous shiat she pulled. Either you were intentionally trolling, you were way off base with your assessment of what she did, or your "harmless fun" wasn't actually harmless. Your pick.

No, the difference is the permanent arrest record. We can go around and around all day about whether this girl's soda-bottle bomb was or was not any different from our homemade napalm; but what makes it very different today is that if/when we got in trouble 40 years ago, even if we got expelled or arrested, it did not ruin our entire lives. Assuming there was no malicious intent, we got to acknowledge our rank stupidity and carry on with our life.

Nowadays, your arrest record is not only permanent, it can destroy your life EVEN IF there is no malice, and even if nobody was hurt, and even if everyone involved agrees they initially overreacted. A felony arrest can prevent you from getting financial aid for college, or even being accepted into college; it can prevent you from being hired for many types of jobs, especially if it involves money or security; it can permanently impact your credit rating and make it difficult to rent a house, buy a car, qualify for a bank loan, etc. That is pretty heavy baggage for an honors student who did something silly because she was a kid and didn't realize what would happen.

Now, there are people who will say "Well, she should hav ...


You, sir, just posted the most stupid "explaining it all away" piece of shiat I've ever heard.

I expect you to do well in the political field one of these days.
 
2013-05-15 09:14:40 PM  
Anyone notice the mugshot roundup next to the article?  Full of hotties.
  www.wtsp.com
Bathe her and bring her to my chambers

/keep the warpaint
//hot
///Likes the raised eyebrow
 
2013-05-15 09:20:26 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: By the way, she wasn't going to jail for anything. The police arrested her on a charge based on her actions, which is what they do. Once the evidence was reviewed, the prosecutor declined in pressing charges. Stop acting like the internet saved her from prison.


THIS.

Thank you.
 
2013-05-15 09:23:54 PM  

doglover: I miss when my chem teacher took us out to the parking lot and fired off a real cannon.


A chunk of sodium in a beaker of water.
 
2013-05-15 09:24:39 PM  
Funny a friend of mine got booted out of Bartow high for having a disassembled paintball marker in the trunk of his car. He was returning it to the store, however drug sniffing dogs went off and picked his car when it was his neighbors, he still got expelled.
/he never had less then an A+ and never missed a day in school - it ruined his changes of a decent college and commited suicide
//she blew up shiat on campus man, they clearly didnt want bad publicity for how shiatty of a school district they really are
 
2013-05-15 09:32:44 PM  

doglover: I miss when my chem teacher took us out to the parking lot and fired off a real cannon.


My chem/physics teacher was my favorite teacher in high school. He used to do fun experiments using chemical reactions. He also actually taught rather than just giving handouts like some of my teachers did. When we graduated we bought him a zippo with his initials engraved on it and a couple of packs of swisher sweets as a gift. Swishers were his brand.

/csb
 
2013-05-15 09:37:16 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Kome: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The ones who may be a bit reckless but aren't afraid to experiment in order to learn. I'm almost 30 now and I get paid to do things just to see what happens. But with robots instead of chemicals.

Come on, man!  Doing it in your own backyard or the local woods is one thing---but AT FARKIN' SCHOOL?!  No. She shouldn't get a pass.  I mean, she SHOULD be taught a real lesson here.  Sounds like her folks aren't instilling common sense into her, either.


Uhm, why not AT FARKING SCHOOL?    We used to do experiments much more interesting than this on the sprawling school grounds where I went to highschool.  Middle of football field first thing in the morning is a great place to conduct little experiments whose outcome is uncertain.
 
2013-05-15 09:43:42 PM  

patchvonbraun: MelGoesOnTour: Kome: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The ones who may be a bit reckless but aren't afraid to experiment in order to learn. I'm almost 30 now and I get paid to do things just to see what happens. But with robots instead of chemicals.

Come on, man!  Doing it in your own backyard or the local woods is one thing---but AT FARKIN' SCHOOL?!  No. She shouldn't get a pass.  I mean, she SHOULD be taught a real lesson here.  Sounds like her folks aren't instilling common sense into her, either.

Uhm, why not AT FARKING SCHOOL?    We used to do experiments much more interesting than this on the sprawling school grounds where I went to highschool.  Middle of football field first thing in the morning is a great place to conduct little experiments whose outcome is uncertain.


I'll give you 1+ for trolling.
 
2013-05-15 09:59:00 PM  
She was going to jail for screwing up a chemistry lab?

weknowmemes.com
 
2013-05-15 09:59:02 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: patchvonbraun: MelGoesOnTour: Kome: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The ones who may be a bit reckless but aren't afraid to experiment in order to learn. I'm almost 30 now and I get paid to do things just to see what happens. But with robots instead of chemicals.

Come on, man!  Doing it in your own backyard or the local woods is one thing---but AT FARKIN' SCHOOL?!  No. She shouldn't get a pass.  I mean, she SHOULD be taught a real lesson here.  Sounds like her folks aren't instilling common sense into her, either.

Uhm, why not AT FARKING SCHOOL?    We used to do experiments much more interesting than this on the sprawling school grounds where I went to highschool.  Middle of football field first thing in the morning is a great place to conduct little experiments whose outcome is uncertain.

I'll give you 1+ for trolling.


"There are reports of unscheduled, out-of-curriculum learning in sector 17.  We're sending in a suppression squad".
 
2013-05-15 10:09:37 PM  

patchvonbraun: Uhm, why not AT FARKING SCHOOL? We used to do experiments much more interesting than this on the sprawling school grounds where I went to highschool. Middle of football field first thing in the morning is a great place to conduct little experiments whose outcome is uncertain


MelGoesOnTour: I'll give you 1+ for trolling.


I don't think patchvonbraun was trolling. I mean, I understand the obvious answer, which is "you shouldn't build bombs at school", but I think his question is deeper than that: Questions of "causing fear and panic" aside, where might be a safer place for the kid to conduct this experiment?

From the sound of it, she did this experiment in a parking lot, away from other students and property, in such a way that no one was ever in danger. She followed the same safety precautions any adult would have followed. She in no way intended to place anyone in danger, and in fact, she made sure that others would not be in danger. This might also be why she chose to do this at school, rather than at her home - suppose she lived in an apartment complex, or in a neighborhood with lots of cars and people around.

Now, you can't just say, "it's okay to set off bombs made from household chemicals at school", but you can't punish her the same way you would a couple of dumbasses that decided to perform this same experiment in the bathroom between classes or the girls' locker room right after gym.
 
2013-05-15 10:30:46 PM  

YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE

In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.


Thank you!

I just bought a Chromebook. I don"t have a lot of experience with Chrome and haven't had a chance to look into stupid auto play settings.
 
2013-05-15 10:34:48 PM  
People who think mixing chemicals unsupervised on school grounds with others present is just kids being kids must be the luckiest people ever to have avoided the pants on head stupid Darwin contests of their own youth.

This is most certainly at the very least expulsion worthy, and this girl is the dumbest "honor student' I've ever heard of.
 
2013-05-15 10:36:51 PM  

FunkOut: Is anyone outraged that she shouldn't be doing this because this it's a boy thing to mess around with exploding experiments and girls are supposed just to be interested in science that involves medicine pie and plants sandwich engineering?


FTFY. But seriously science geek girls were always the best.
 
2013-05-15 10:39:13 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?


yourtubes
 
2013-05-15 10:57:43 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Kome: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The ones who may be a bit reckless but aren't afraid to experiment in order to learn. I'm almost 30 now and I get paid to do things just to see what happens. But with robots instead of chemicals.

Come on, man!  Doing it in your own backyard or the local woods is one thing---but AT FARKIN' SCHOOL?!  No. She shouldn't get a pass.  I mean, she SHOULD be taught a real lesson here.  Sounds like her folks aren't instilling common sense into her, either.


I knew a kid who did that inchemistry class, injured another student, melted my windbreaker, and got suspended.

He's a lawyer now.
 
2013-05-15 11:06:30 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Are Americans typically so afraid of everything that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?


Oh, it's not just an American thing my friend. Go on-line and order some powdered aluminium or some potassium permanganate and see how far the RCMP crawls up your ass.
 
2013-05-15 11:07:55 PM  

Jocundry: YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE

In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.

Thank you!

I just bought a Chromebook. I don"t have a lot of experience with Chrome and haven't had a chance to look into stupid auto play settings.


How is that Chromebook. I have thought about buying my stepmother one, her computer is almost 10 years old and is on its last leg. She is 78 and has been using XP for the last 13 years. Would I be better off just buying her a new computer and just loading XP on it?
 
2013-05-15 11:08:05 PM  

Gyrfalcon: No, the difference is the permanent arrest record. We can go around and around all day about whether this girl's soda-bottle bomb was or was not any different from our homemade napalm; but what makes it very different today is that if/when we got in trouble 40 years ago, even if we got expelled or arrested, it did not ruin our entire lives. Assuming there was no malicious intent, we got to acknowledge our rank stupidity and carry on with our life.


My high school prank was very similar to hers.  When discovered prematurely, it resulted in a *major* police presence, almost certainly worse than what happened at Wilmot's school. They figured out it was me very quickly. I spoke to the cops for an hour and that was that. Never heard about it again.

I truly cannot figure out what has happened to this country.

ObDon'tWantToLiveOnThisPlanet
 
2013-05-15 11:14:31 PM  

Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE


Flashblock?
 
2013-05-15 11:15:32 PM  
Nephew went to same same school. One of the top high schools in the country. But it's florida so yeah shiat gets wierd.
 
2013-05-15 11:25:16 PM  

Dimensio: doglover: I miss when my chem teacher took us out to the parking lot and fired off a real cannon.

How did you avoid becoming a mass murderer?


You're making a pretty big assumption there, Dimensio.
 
2013-05-15 11:30:21 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: You, sir, just posted the most stupid "explaining it all away" piece of shiat I've ever heard.

I expect you to do well in the political field one of these days.


Interesting, considering I explained nothing.

Also, I'm a ma'am, and you've allegedly been here long enough to know that.
 
2013-05-15 11:37:24 PM  
I'd still prefer law of criminal intent over law of internet popularity contest.  But I suspect that a politicized law enforcement of Get Those Arrest and Incarceration Numbers Up has done away with the intent to actually protect people by enforcing reasonable laws.
 
2013-05-15 11:38:16 PM  
Late to the party on this one but the words household chemicals is a little concerning to anyone that knows much of anything about household chemicals. Was it bleach and ammonia? Was it meant to hurt or kill other students? Or are we talking baking soda and vinegar? There's just too broad a range with the term household chemicals.
 
2013-05-15 11:59:32 PM  

doglover: I miss when my chem teacher took us out to the parking lot and fired off a real cannon.


When I was a kid, a local fire chief would come to the elementary school once a year to talk about fire and safety hazards. To keep it interesting, he would demonstrate how various household items would catch fire and/or explode under certain conditions. There were always one or two really great explosions involved, and as a kid these things really got your attention.
 
2013-05-16 01:18:10 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: You know how I can tell you're not from around these parts?


All the words are spelled correctly?  (I keed, I keed)

MelGoesOnTour: /trust me that despite how you interpreted what I said, it's NOT the case that I'm being racist.


I wasn't trying to imply that you personally were racist, just everyone else in Florida, and clearly I fouled that up thoroughly.

//I'm a half-breed myself. You have no idea. So go on being perfect and all.

I think I'll just stop trying to lecture you on how people of colour are treated in the state where you live.
 
Xai
2013-05-16 02:53:37 AM  
Science is severely frowned upon, in the USA.

Having your factory explode, having no insurance and killing 15 people is completely fine.
 
2013-05-16 03:34:19 AM  

HeartBurnKid: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The best kind.


Double times this.
 
2013-05-16 04:36:17 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: HeartBurnKid: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The best kind.

Double times this.


QFT.  I went to Caltech, and a sizeable minority of the US students were basically miscreants and oddballs who'd had difficulty fitting into the public school system.
 
2013-05-16 06:23:47 AM  
Science + Internets + race card = FARK LULZ
 
2013-05-16 06:25:33 AM  

YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE

In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.


Thanks, you are a god among men!

/Really need to look at all the settings
 
2013-05-16 07:40:20 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Maybe I clicked when I didn't think I did, but that would be pretty odd


more odd than insulting someone who was trying to help you ?
 
2013-05-16 09:58:50 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: Bondith: MelGoesOnTour: 10-2-1 this gal has had problems in the past which her parents will never acknowledge being how she's a perfect angel. 20-2-1 she'll be popping out a little Sh'n'ai'ia in the next couple of years.

/also, that's not how you express odds.

Yeah, you're right about that, I guess.  But what can I say other than I hope I got my point across, one way or another.

/trust me that despite how you interpreted what I said, it's NOT the case that I'm being racist.
//I'm a half-breed myself.  You have no idea.  So go on being perfect and all.


Its usually the racists that spend all day arguing with the internet that they aren't racists. Racist.
 
2013-05-16 01:37:22 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Bondith: MelGoesOnTour: 10-2-1 this gal has had problems in the past which her parents will never acknowledge being how she's a perfect angel. 20-2-1 she'll be popping out a little Sh'n'ai'ia in the next couple of years.

/also, that's not how you express odds.

Yeah, you're right about that, I guess.  But what can I say other than I hope I got my point across, one way or another.

/trust me that despite how you interpreted what I said, it's NOT the case that I'm being racist.
//I'm a half-breed myself.  You have no idea.  So go on being perfect and all.


PROTIP: "I'm not racist but..." is a sure sign that you're racist.

/and yeah, what you said was incredibly racist
//whether you're a "half-breed" or not
 
2013-05-16 08:14:59 PM  

Xai: Science is severely frowned upon, in the USA.

Having your factory explode, having no insurance and killing 15 people is completely fine.


Science is not frowned upon.  Having your factor explode is frowned upon.  Having the bare minimum insurance coverage is also frowned upon.

Acting as though this was some innocent little science project and everyone criticizing/punishing her is just anti-science is idiotic.
She basically brought chemicals from home to mix at school near other people based entirely on youtube videos.  She apparently didn't bother to even find out what might happen if the reaction got into someone's eyes (SEVERE eye injury, possible blindness), their skin (burns), or their throat/lungs (coughing, bleeding if a lot of gas is inhaled).

I loved mixing stuff up and seeing what it would do.  I never considered doing it in or near common areas at my school (or anywhere else where people would be around).  I never mixed things up based on nothing more than a newsgroup or prodigy/compuserve post.  At the barest of minimums, I assumed that the worst chemical in the bunch was the baseline for bad things that might happen.

If she had decided to bring a bottle of ammonia and another of bleach and mix them because she saw it on youtube, would we still be acting like the administrators were completely wrong?  I mean, what's the harm in deploying a cloud of chlorine gas around a bunch of people?
 
2013-05-16 08:16:36 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: HeartBurnKid: ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?

The best kind.

Double times this.


I love it when "honor students" mix chemicals together based on nothing more than youtube videos.  Doubly so when they do it in public or occupied places.

It super rad.
 
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