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(WTSP)   The girl who was going to go to jail for felony science after blowing up a soda bottle with household products on school grounds will now not go to jail, thanks to Farkers and the rest of the internets   (wtsp.com) divider line 145
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2013-05-15 06:17:14 PM
Good.
 
2013-05-15 06:23:41 PM

SilentStrider: Good.


That
 
2013-05-15 06:24:49 PM
FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE
 
2013-05-15 06:25:24 PM
So we are sucking our own dicks over something we had no hand in like reddit?
 
2013-05-15 06:25:31 PM
Wasn't ever sure I believed her story, but frankly it was incredibly stupid to even think about arresting her. At most it should have been an in school punishment. Didn't even merit a suspension imo. It's a farking mixture of household chemicals and aluminum foil.
 
2013-05-15 06:25:48 PM

Infernalist: SilentStrider: Good.

That


These.
 
2013-05-15 06:26:54 PM
Are Americans typically so afraid of everything that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?
 
2013-05-15 06:27:12 PM
In an ideal world, she'd have spent a couple of afternoons helping the science teacher as a lesson to never do stuff like that unsupervised by her teachers.

Still, since this is Florida and she's black,  and she hasn't been arrested and charged with terrorism and conspiracy to commit murder, I have to call this a victory.
 
2013-05-15 06:28:09 PM
Yeah farkers, you totally had something to do with this.
 
2013-05-15 06:28:51 PM
Florida tag got blown tha fark up!
 
2013-05-15 06:29:00 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Are Americans typically so afraid of everything that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?


No, but lawyers are so present in America you have to crucify anyone who has any fun or you will become legally liable for millions of dollars in damages when buthurt fark-faces sue over non-issues. See: Any Lawsuit Since 1995.
 
2013-05-15 06:29:15 PM
Still will probably fark up her future.

There was a story here a little while ago about a woman who got her nursing degree but was refused a nursing license in Illinois because when she was 13 she got into an argument at school and the police were called and they arrested her. She was released to her parents and no charges were ever brought against her because she all she did was argue with a teacher, but that arrest prevented her from getting a nursing licensee.
 
2013-05-15 06:29:40 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Are Americans typically so afraid of everything that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?


Americans as a whole?   No.

Some dumbasses, which include most school administrators?  Yes.
 
2013-05-15 06:30:04 PM
api.ning.com

Grumpy cat smiles on the---oh wait, he's still frowning.
 
2013-05-15 06:30:48 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Are Americans typically so afraid of everything being sued into oblivion that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?


Yes.
 
2013-05-15 06:30:55 PM
They wonder why America lags behind the rest of the worlds in sciences and engineering, yet they don't want the kids to experiment on anything.

Of course the cost of education is another problem holding back potential science majors. Why spend 7~8 years in college for an engineering degree when you can make the same amount of money or more by getting a 4-year business administration or finance degree.
 
2013-05-15 06:32:38 PM
It's just sad that now kids can't be kids anymore.  I'm in my mid thirties, and would now end up in Guantanamo for some of the stupid crap I did.  Soda bottle bombs, egging cars, toilet papering houses, stealing signs.....

/nothing with permanent damage
//harmless clean fun and foolery
 
2013-05-15 06:34:13 PM
"She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?
 
2013-05-15 06:34:41 PM

redmid17: It's a farking mixture of household chemicals and aluminum foil.


Actually you can blow stuff up real good with some pretty mundane chemistry.

What this incident weighs on is (AFAIK) that she was using a small plastic bottle, which doesn't have the size or pressure tolerances of something malicious. It sounds like she made a bleach bomb, which builds up pressurized hydrogen gas. Using a stronger container would make this mundane reaction very destructive.
 
2013-05-15 06:35:30 PM
Teenager does something moderately dumb and illegal.  (At least as much as a bomb can be described as "moderate").

Gets diversion in lieu of jail.

If she doesn't screw up again, her life doesn't get screwed up for good.

This is fair.
 
2013-05-15 06:37:08 PM

Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE


In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.
 
2013-05-15 06:37:25 PM

ongbok: Still will probably fark up her future.

There was a story here a little while ago about a woman who got her nursing degree but was refused a nursing license in Illinois because when she was 13 she got into an argument at school and the police were called and they arrested her. She was released to her parents and no charges were ever brought against her because she all she did was argue with a teacher, but that arrest prevented her from getting a nursing licensee.


It sounds like this girl has chops, she should just get a bio degree and work in research.  If you are good at that, nobody gives a shiat what you did in your past
 
2013-05-15 06:38:16 PM

YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE

In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.


Not using chrome, need FF due to work, you are useless to me.

/I'll still be nice, because thats what we do, but that doesn't help me at all.
 
2013-05-15 06:38:49 PM

degenerate-afro: They wonder why America lags behind the rest of the worlds in sciences and engineering, yet they don't want the kids to experiment on anything.

Of course the cost of education is another problem holding back potential science majors. Why spend 7~8 years in college for an engineering degree when you can make the same amount of money or more by getting a 4-year business administration or finance degree.


Yes, not wanting kids to mix known dangerous chemicals in chemistry class clearly shows how the USA doesn't want kids to become a scientist. Did you even think what you were typing as you typed?
 
2013-05-15 06:39:59 PM
I miss when my chem teacher took us out to the parking lot and fired off a real cannon.
 
2013-05-15 06:41:33 PM
Silly citizen, you were engaged in an activity not permitted by The Corporation. Now go back to the mall.
 
2013-05-15 06:42:26 PM

Coolfusis: Infernalist: SilentStrider: Good.

That

These.


Those.
 
2013-05-15 06:42:38 PM

doglover: I miss when my chem teacher took us out to the parking lot and fired off a real cannon.


How did you avoid becoming a mass murderer?
 
2013-05-15 06:43:41 PM

ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?


The Bill Gates kind?
 
2013-05-15 06:43:42 PM
Too bad she's still subject to the Zero Intelligence Tolerance Policy of the school.  She merely escaped criminal prosecution.
 
2013-05-15 06:44:11 PM
She should be left to rot in jail! It is a well established fact that curiosity disrupts the status quo. Bad for business, you know.
 
2013-05-15 06:46:09 PM

degenerate-afro: They wonder why America lags behind the rest of the worlds in sciences and engineering, yet they don't want the kids to experiment on anything.

Of course the cost of education is another problem holding back potential science majors. Why spend 7~8 years in college for an engineering degree when you can make the same amount of money or more by getting a 4-year business administration or finance degree.


Jesus are they getting their masters and phd at the same time as their bachelors? Even the dimmest kids I knew who got engineering degrees (obviously relative) took 5.5 years at most to get that piece of paper. Most finished in 4.5-5.
 
2013-05-15 06:46:32 PM
I'm enjoying watching the internet flex its muscles. Fricking powerful things we are doing, based on nothing more than the threat of bad publicity.
 
2013-05-15 06:47:31 PM

Shadow Blasko: YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE

In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.

Not using chrome, need FF due to work, you are useless to me.

/I'll still be nice, because thats what we do, but that doesn't help me at all.


That's even easier, get FlashBlock.
 
2013-05-15 06:49:53 PM

Outrageous Muff: So we are sucking our own dicks over something we had no hand in like reddit?


Yeah. But to be fair we are so much more talented at it here on fark.
 
2013-05-15 06:51:10 PM
From other stories I read, she saw how to make this bomb (and it's called a bomb) on the internet, and decided to make and set it off before school, on school grounds.  She knew what she was doing, and had a pretty good idea of what would most likely happen when that went off.  Did she deserve to be arrested?  Fark no.  Some time in detention/suspension?  Yeah, most likely.  If a piece of shrapnel from that bottle had taken out one of her friend's eyes, or even one of hers, that school would have been sued into oblivion, probably by her parents for not supervising her well enough.

It's not worth farking her entire life over, but it deserved some sort of punishment.
 
2013-05-15 06:52:08 PM
So I read the original story. She was a minor but her name and Facebook picture was released by the media on the original story. I thought that was a no-no?
 
2013-05-15 06:53:46 PM

YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: YodaBlues: Shadow Blasko: FARKING AUTOPLAY VIDEO WITH NO MUTE OPTION DIE DIE DIE DIE

In Chrome: Settings --->Advanced --->Content Settings --->Plugins --> Select 'Click to play'

/your welcome.

Not using chrome, need FF due to work, you are useless to me.

/I'll still be nice, because thats what we do, but that doesn't help me at all.

That's even easier, get FlashBlock.


I have noscript and flashblock, and both show to be enabled and functioning. Not sure how this one made it through.

/Maybe I clicked when I didn't think I did, but that would be pretty odd.
 
2013-05-15 06:54:26 PM
She's stupid and deserved suspension.  Not arrest, not expulsion.

Her "science project" was something she'd never done before and only saw on youtube and was performed near a bunch of even less informed people.  That alone makes it worth punishing.

BUT, it wasn't some benign reaction, one of the key ingredients was drain cleaner.  Anyone want to guess what would have happened if the reaction products had gotten on someone's skin or in their eyes.

One of the first things I learned to do when trying experiments like this was to be as far away from people as I could be AFTER at least doing basic research about the chemicals involved.  At a minimum, reading the label would have clued her into possible bad things that might happen.

Hey, I'm working with something that alone can cause blindness and serious chemical burns, I should be careful.  Since I'm using this product in  reaction, I should be double careful in case something even worse is possible.

What the hell kind of science student does shiat like this, in places like this?

I honestly understand your garage, backyard, secluded section of the park, the desert, the everglades, etc..  But I don't understand at school with people all around.
 
2013-05-15 06:54:26 PM
Now she needs to get unexpelled, and hopefully get accepted to university far, far away from the racist farkhole she had the misfortune to be born in.
 
2013-05-15 06:54:54 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Are Americans typically so afraid of everything that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?


No.  It's a side effect of the push for equality.  Because all people are created equally and judging people based on things like beliefs or attitudes or judging people with beliefs or attitudes is wrong, all crimes are equal in the perfectly equal justice system.

ergo: a bomb is a bomb is a bomb and ignorance/incompetence is not an excuse etc etc etc

so it's a stupid, perverted-altruism response, not a fear response

that being said, your ethnocentrism is forgiven.
 
2013-05-15 06:55:55 PM

ArcadianRefugee: "She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," one teen said.

What kind of honor student is so daft as to mix chemicals together "just to see what happens"?


The best kind.
 
2013-05-15 06:56:02 PM

UsikFark: redmid17: It's a farking mixture of household chemicals and aluminum foil.

Actually you can blow stuff up real good with some pretty mundane chemistry.

What this incident weighs on is (AFAIK) that she was using a small plastic bottle, which doesn't have the size or pressure tolerances of something malicious. It sounds like she made a bleach bomb, which builds up pressurized hydrogen gas. Using a stronger container would make this mundane reaction very destructive.


shiat, you don't even need to blow people up to kill them dead by mixing household chemicals.  You can make damn deadly gas by mixing bleach and ammonia.
 
2013-05-15 06:56:41 PM
School officials = Brain-impaired paranoid morons
State Attorney = Slimy politician trying to impress everyone how tough on crime he is.

Worthless wastes of good oxygen.
 
2013-05-15 06:56:52 PM
You know, I'm pretty sure this was an experiment we did in 6th grade (11-12 year olds), using tiny little bottles. There was a chemical, then a layer of something - I think it was cotton - that would slowly dissolve, then some aluminum foil. We observed the first couple go 'POP' then left the rest in the back of the classroom, and for the rest of the week we'd get tiny random explosions (we had different amounts of the cotton as well as aluminum). I don't remember all of the details, because explosions!!! But, yeah....

(this was also in Florida, btw)
 
2013-05-15 06:57:11 PM

"Kiera's not totally out of the woods, however, as she and one of her parents signed an agreement to successfully complete a Department of Juvenile Justice Diversion Program. Once she completes the program, she will be formally cleared of all charges."


Jeebus so they cannot just let this go but instead they offer her parents an agreement where the girl has to attend a program? I'm glad she will not be charged but the D.A. should just let the whole matter rest. And hopefully that agreement that was signed does clear her of any criminal record including the arrest. Hope the girl's lawyer was that good.

 
2013-05-15 06:57:56 PM

pedrop357: I honestly understand your garage, backyard, secluded section of the park, the desert, the everglades, etc.. But I don't understand at school with people all around.


Another rule of thumb might be:  Don't do science experiments anywhere you wouldn't rub one out, and don't do them around people who aren't expecting it and possibly ready for what might happen at the end.
 
2013-05-15 07:00:49 PM
If you're going to make Works Bombs, you do it at home in your yard or out in the middle of nowhere at night.  You don't do it right before school on school grounds.  Any honors student should be able to tell you that.
 
2013-05-15 07:01:29 PM

SN1987a goes boom: UsikFark: redmid17: It's a farking mixture of household chemicals and aluminum foil.

Actually you can blow stuff up real good with some pretty mundane chemistry.

What this incident weighs on is (AFAIK) that she was using a small plastic bottle, which doesn't have the size or pressure tolerances of something malicious. It sounds like she made a bleach bomb, which builds up pressurized hydrogen gas. Using a stronger container would make this mundane reaction very destructive.

shiat, you don't even need to blow people up to kill them dead by mixing household chemicals.  You can make damn deadly gas by mixing bleach and ammonia.


I'm sure people would be completely defending her if she had inadvertently released chlorine gas in the hallways because she wanted to see what would happen.  Mixing drain cleaner and aluminum foil isn't much better.
 
2013-05-15 07:01:59 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Are Americans typically so afraid of everything that a vinegar and baking soda volcano will make them wet their pants?


Yes.

The Republican ladies where my wife works were talking about the need for strong anti pressure cooker legislation.  She told them she'd gone to a yard sale the other day, and saw a couple of old men buying two pressure cookers.  Their reaction "OMG.  What did they look like?"

She was tempted to go all Mooslim on their sorry asses, but... office politics.
 
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