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2013-05-15 04:21:29 PM
9 votes:
Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.
2013-05-15 04:10:38 PM
8 votes:
If he winds up getting evicted, he should go all forgetful old man and find a way to "accidentally" burn the place to the ground.
2013-05-15 04:21:21 PM
6 votes:
So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.
2013-05-15 04:26:52 PM
5 votes:

Babwa Wawa: I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.


Except she seems to have secretly and illegally transferred the house into her name, which is why she can even do this at all.
2013-05-15 04:19:37 PM
5 votes:
Worst. Daughter. Ever.
2013-05-15 04:18:51 PM
5 votes:
4chan, you have a new mission.

Go.
2013-05-15 06:18:55 PM
4 votes:

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


This. More details are needed. Given how common that scenario is,  I'd consider it a valid possibility.

A dear, dear friend of mine is going through that right now, and the poor old lady has already been scammed, beaten by home invaders, robbed, had a bad fall and worse. She can't understand why her grandkids are trying to get her out of her house despite the fact that the neighborhood has seriously deteriorated around her, her family all live far, far away and she really can't care for herself anymore, plus she refuses to go to a facility. And my friend, her brother and their respective spouses refuse to have her go to one, especially since their grandfather died in a VA hospital when they were small.

So my poor friend has her grandmother 'visiting for the summer' in her upstairs guestroom now and has been painstakingly converting her basement into as close a replica of the little ranch house as she can manage. I've been helping her photograph, pack, move and replace pieces of furniture, knick-knacks and all sorts of things from the house five hours away to her downstairs (we're going in sections,) my husband and friend's husband have installed a chair lift, LED-backed false windows tuned to the natural light, all the ADA-compliance bells and whistles, and friend's little daughter, who is four, has been 'keeping Gam-Gam company' while the adults do this. We got her a little pay-as-you-go cellphone and if Gam-Gam needs an adult, the little girl can text and get one of us from downstairs in seconds while protecting the old lady's dignity.

Friend's brother and his wife live too far away to really help, but they've been sending money and Skyping with Gam-Gam whenever we have a task that needs all four adults, like moving in the head and footboards the old lady is used to and assembling them around the nice adjustable hospital-bed so it's more functional but still as pretty. (Good lord, did that take a butt-load of work! We had to essentially design a new frame that went under and around the hospital bed, but still held the head and footboards up with the strength needed for an older lady to lean against them when needed. The husbands welded it together out of pipes, angle iron and scraps from the junkyard, then we ladies bolted on connectors that matched the antique bed's rails so the head and footies go on right where they'd be with the original bed, Rust-Oleum'd the whole shebang flat brown to blend in against the floor and only THEN could we move it in in three sections and assemble the whole shebang. It was epic and the boys say we'll totally put it up on Instructables as soon as they do up better CAD drawings.)

My friend's father, who is estranged from his mother and kind of a dickbag, thinks friend is nuts for putting all this effort into making a comfortable, sanity-and-dignity-preserving abode for the old lady. It hasn't cost her more than a few thousand dollars and since she's already a work-from-home mom whose daughter is very bright, it's really not SO bad to take the responsibility on, but friend really did not take her ass-pocket dad's remarks well.

So she let the four-year-old 'take reffence pictures' of Grandpa's house with a digital camera "so I can make my basement look right when you're old." Preschoolers are surprisingly good at a point well made.

My gift to the dear old lady, who has been unbelievably kind to my friend and I since we were little girls, is having season-appropriate transparencies made of the view from her house's windows and installing them with magnets behind the glass of the LED-backed false windows, so the basement even looks that much more like her home, and I've also built a fake fireplace that slots into her old woodstove so it will still seem real. In her more lucid moments, she's said that she loves us all for bringing her home to her now that it's getting so hard to keep up, but when her mind wanders, it's like she can't imagine she's anyplace else but the home she and her late husband had since the Forties.

I only pray that my future grandchildren are anything like my friend.
2013-05-15 04:26:36 PM
4 votes:
A few years ago, my grandpa got to the point in which he could no longer afford to live at his place.  My parents bought the house from him, and told him he could live there rent free for the rest of his days, no questions asked.

Because they aren't complete and utter assholes.
2013-05-15 04:24:29 PM
4 votes:

WhippingBoy: 56 years and he couldn't pay off his house?


I took from the article that he owned the house, then the daughter fraudulently transferred it to her name.  The money they are trying to raise is to buy back the house the daughter essentially stole.
2013-05-15 04:20:17 PM
4 votes:
Have fun sucking cocks in hell, coont.
2013-05-15 04:12:02 PM
4 votes:
I have a plan, but it is going to involve lots and lots of balloons.
2013-05-15 06:44:35 PM
3 votes:
There seems to be a squabble over visitation rights with his special needs son.

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/on/vet-john-potter-eviction-daughter/

The daughter then chose to evict him. It's unclear whether the son lives with him or her and exactly who wants to visit him. The POA also gives her guardianship of the son.

BTW. I was unable to GIS anything on the 'bad' daughter. Only the 'good' daughter showed up.

Either way, no one should throw the old man out of his own house, especially at his age, due to a family spat. All of this aggravation can seriously be affecting his health which can cause him an early death. At 91 it's a marvel he has all of his mental facilities left and seems to be in quite good health.

I've read the comments about how this might be a scam, but I kind of doubt it. It's gotten a lot of coverage by other news media.

I have a Durable POA for my mom, who I take care of. I also am on the deed to the home, placed there when one family member expressed concern over her decision to initially do so. Other family members promptly moved to get me on the deed and did so.

Interestingly enough, the family member who expressed doubt is the most well off of them all.

I've made it absolutely clear to all of my Mom's physicians that putting her in a home is out of the question. I already know that if she was ever sent to one that within a year she'd be dead.

She built the house we live in with my late Dad. She raised us kids there. The back yard has 50+ years of cherished family pets buried there. We have two cats and one (insane) Chihuahua and she's happy with them and being in her own home. Built in 1958, it's a bit run down and needs fixing, but it's her home.

Almost everything in it has cherished memories attached. At night she goes to bed in her own room of many years. During the day, she looks out at the windows at the yard she landscaped time and time again. She can still tell me where her Lilies of decades ago were.

I assume it's something like that for the old man. He knows every creak and joint in the house. He'll probably recall where one of his daughters spilled her juice when she was little. The house is familiar and comfortable, worn in to fit him like an old glove. It's helping to prolong his life and health.

It seems to me that it's getting harder to toss out squatters and easier to toss out long term owner/builders.
2013-05-15 04:26:38 PM
3 votes:
Doesn't Ohio have some sort of elder abuse law that would allow this woman to be criminally prosecuted? That's a blatent abuse of the power of attorney, and a common form of fraud on the elderly that most state attorney generals LOVE to go after (gets votes from old people, after all).
2013-05-15 04:22:08 PM
3 votes:
I'd have to know more about the family before I can judge the daughter.  She may have a perfectly valid reason to kick the old coot to the curb.
2013-05-15 05:02:27 PM
2 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Do people even bother to read the articles before commenting on them?


No they don't. They really don't. You see all these questions and speculation that could be easily answered had they bothered to read more than just the Fark headline.
2013-05-15 04:59:16 PM
2 votes:
If you actually read the gawker article it's more complicated than just a scam.  They want to keep him away from his autistic son Joe.  He's filing for visitation.  They evicted him to try to get him to stop the lawsuit.  They might really be douches or their might be more going on than it seems.
2013-05-15 04:59:12 PM
2 votes:

Ned Stark: skozlaw: As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.

You could have respected your grandmothers wishes and let her keep her own home and a little shred of dignity even if it did cost her two or three years of life that were pretty much bound to be shiat anyway. Seems like a choice to me.


This. People that assume to know what's best for others creep me out.
2013-05-15 04:51:59 PM
2 votes:
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child.
2013-05-15 04:49:02 PM
2 votes:

skozlaw: As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.


You could have respected your grandmothers wishes and let her keep her own home and a little shred of dignity even if it did cost her two or three years of life that were pretty much bound to be shiat anyway. Seems like a choice to me.
2013-05-15 04:40:02 PM
2 votes:

berylman: My mother developed senile dementia way too early and was convinced to sign over her power of attorney to a lawyer who clearly had ulterior motives.  I got it changed around before he do anything malicious but goddamn...it's way too much power to give to anyone whom you do not absolutely trust with everything.


I wonder if it is possible to give power of attorney to a trio of people requiring at least two to agree and sign before any legal action can be done on behalf of the root person. Is that even a thing? can you protect yourself from the one scumbag family member you accidentally trusted by providing oversight by a couple others. Especially not knowing which one is the greedy SOB?
2013-05-15 04:32:57 PM
2 votes:
Instead of raising money to buy the house they should make a donation to the local motorcycle enthusiasts club to persuade the daughter into a change of heart.
2013-05-15 04:31:11 PM
2 votes:
I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.
2013-05-15 04:27:15 PM
2 votes:
As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.
2013-05-15 04:26:05 PM
2 votes:
RELEASE TEH INTERNETS!
2013-05-15 04:25:59 PM
2 votes:

zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.


As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.
2013-05-15 04:25:28 PM
2 votes:
Do people even bother to read the articles before commenting on them?
2013-05-15 04:24:59 PM
2 votes:
I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.
2013-05-15 04:24:32 PM
2 votes:

Crewmannumber6: Have fun sucking cocks in hell, coont.


again, we don't know ... maybe he diddled her and now he's gettin' what's comin' ...
2013-05-15 04:18:48 PM
2 votes:
Pay your bills, deadbeat.
2013-05-15 10:37:53 PM
1 votes:

kbronsito: ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.

If he's 91, his daughter is probably also old enough to be senile herself.

if she is just being an evil greedy biatch, I hope her kids learn from her example and avenge grandpa by behaving in exactly the same way.


You do realise that Western Society is not setup for very old, in other words needing nursing style care, old people to stay in the family home.

Most women are at work.
Families are smaller

In other words there is no one for a lot of the time to take care of the old person.  We need to stop the guilt trip on people and accept that when you get old you need to factor in a nursing home stint and a facilitated retirement village.
2013-05-15 06:38:24 PM
1 votes:

Orange-Pippin: weiserfireman: We had an old man in our community who couldn't take care of himself.  He lived in a house his daughter owned
I don't know the details, but she decided the only thing she could do was evict him.    The Sheriff was scheduled to arrive at 9:30 pm to escort him off the property.
At 8:30pm, the fire department was called.    He has poured a container of gasoline on the floors of the garage and kitchen.   Opened all the doors and windows, lit it, then gone out to the front lawn to watch it while he drank a beer.
When the beer was gone, he killed himself with a shotgun.    This could get a lot worse for this family
/tripped over his body, in the dark, trying to pull a firehouse around to the garage
//saved the house, was repaired and a new family living there in less than 6 months


Wow. That is an absolutely terrible story. I'm so sorry.  If he couldnt take care of himself, how is evicting him going to help matters?  She is partly responsible for that outcome.


The police department had all of his weapons in protective custody, because everyone involved thought he would be suicidal or violent.    He traded a neighbor a rubber raft for the shotgun the day before.
2013-05-15 06:16:02 PM
1 votes:
I used to think my family was disfunctional, but stories like this prove we are about as good as it gets.

My dad (passed last month) gave my brother full power of attorney.  My brother got my dad to get a reverse mortgage on the house.  No, my brother wasn't pulling off a scam.  He made sure my dad got a good monthly income from the mortgage company that would sustain him.  None of us were interested in getting the house so it was a good deal all around.  As for dividing up the personal effects.  There have been no arguments other than us having to INSIST my nephew take his grandfather's .22 rifle and acoustic guitar, DAMN IT!

After the service we swapped stories.  My niece loved the one about her grandfather punching out his cousin JG Wentworth when they were teenagers.  Yes.  That JG Wentworth.  The guy was an asshole.
2013-05-15 06:02:19 PM
1 votes:
What, no one has bothered to look up other stories yet?

Link


Apparently the grandfather was also being a dickbag about the 63 year old Autistic son.

Also:

"Janice [Cottril] has refused to comment on the story, but Dean did tell WCMH the couple was willing to let Potter stay in his home if he stopped trying to take them to court over Joe."
Whole family full of winners, sounds like the granddaughter needs to butt out.
2013-05-15 05:58:23 PM
1 votes:
We had an old man in our community who couldn't take care of himself.  He lived in a house his daughter owned

I don't know the details, but she decided the only thing she could do was evict him.    The Sheriff was scheduled to arrive at 9:30 pm to escort him off the property.

At 8:30pm, the fire department was called.    He has poured a container of gasoline on the floors of the garage and kitchen.   Opened all the doors and windows, lit it, then gone out to the front lawn to watch it while he drank a beer.

When the beer was gone, he killed himself with a shotgun.    This could get a lot worse for this family

/tripped over his body, in the dark, trying to pull a firehouse around to the garage
//saved the house, was repaired and a new family living there in less than 6 months
2013-05-15 05:35:25 PM
1 votes:

Ned Stark: skozlaw: As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.

You could have respected your grandmothers wishes and let her keep her own home and a little shred of dignity even if it did cost her two or three years of life that were pretty much bound to be shiat anyway. Seems like a choice to me.


There is no dignity in lying in a puddle of your own feces for several days because no one knows you fell down and starving to death is a really horrible way to go.
2013-05-15 05:32:41 PM
1 votes:
My wife's aunt coerced her mother into leaving all her property to the aunt's son. Grandma called us saying "Faye is trying to steal everything!" Of course we assured her that sweet aunt Faye wouldn't do such a thing. A couple of years later we found out we were wrong.

/burn in Hell, witch!
2013-05-15 04:59:38 PM
1 votes:
And just as my own anecdotal two-cents.....

I had a neighbor that was quite old and an alcoholic. I wish she had a family member that exercised their POA and taken control of the situation. Instead what happen is she started 3 fires and was hospitalized for injuries numerous times before the state took control. I personally took her to the hospital on two occasions.

From the article, maybe the old guy isn't the problem at all. Maybe he was an unbelievable jerkoff while she was growing up and she's getting her payback. Who knows.
2013-05-15 04:54:07 PM
1 votes:

Babwa Wawa: I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.


Yeah, actually she was found to have WRONGFULLY transferred the property to herself, but he got screw on the statute of limitations for getting your house stolen from you by the appellate court
WGJ
2013-05-15 04:51:14 PM
1 votes:
This is obviously a scam perpetrated by all 3 players. Old man plays a victim, daughter plays the villain and the granddaughter plays the hero scamming money from outraged people. Brilliant!
2013-05-15 04:49:49 PM
1 votes:
He should have dropped the house on her and taken her shoes....
2013-05-15 04:47:26 PM
1 votes:

gadian: GalFriday: I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this. NO REASON AT ALL.

We don't know that.  I can think of a few.


Maybe the daughter has a hot, young boytoy with a drug or gambling addiction that she needs to fix.
2013-05-15 04:41:39 PM
1 votes:
That's strange it seems that it is a revenge thing stemming from  "visitation rights" for Potter's autistic other child Joe?  Joe would have to be 70 so I don't understand this at all.

http://www.nbc4i.com/story/22027812/wwii-veteran-about-to-be-evicted -b y-daughter-son-in-law

NBC4 asked Potter's son-in-law and daughter about evicting her father.
"Actually, I can tell you an awful lot, simply because I'm the one who is doing it," said Dean Cottrill.
Janis Cottrill is married to Dean, and is Potter's daughter. They claim the family feud is over visitation rights for Potter's other child, who has Autism.
"For him to stay in that home, it is real simple. Leave Joe alone and stop the lawsuits," said Dean.
He said his wife Janis is upset over the feud and cries many nights.
2013-05-15 04:40:02 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.

Article mentions that the statue of limitations is up for such a course of action.


I read the article.  That is why you get the POA reversed first, then get the house rightfully restored.  If I can prove that the POA was given under duress or that the father believed that the POA would be used for something else, then I can get it the POA voided and all actions that she took within that POA can be reconsidered and the statute of limitations will reset itself.

**NOTE TO ALL FARKERS** Never give your Power of Attorney for money and your Power of Attorney for health to the same person.
2013-05-15 04:38:42 PM
1 votes:

GalFriday: I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this. NO REASON AT ALL.


We don't know that.  I can think of a few.
2013-05-15 04:32:51 PM
1 votes:
Babwa Wawa: I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.


Why doesn't she just say so then. The hiding behind the court and refusing to give her side while asking for thousands of dollars to sell him back the house all sounds a little odd for someone that is try trying to do the right thing.
2013-05-15 04:28:13 PM
1 votes:
When she kicks him out and moves in, how is she going to afford all the pizzas?
2013-05-15 04:25:56 PM
1 votes:
She has no valid reason. Look in the Farchives for another thread or two on this. You'll get more details to really scald your balls.
2013-05-15 04:25:54 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: 56 years and he couldn't pay off his house?


He paid it off, people are raising money so he can buy it back.  Then the shiatty daughter gets that 125K.  Arsenic in her tea seems like the better solution here.
2013-05-15 04:25:32 PM
1 votes:
To the skank-ho-daughter

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2013-05-15 04:25:17 PM
1 votes:

Warthog: JohnAnnArbor: 4chan, you have a new mission.

Go.

I had this same thought.   I'm not usually one for justice by Anonymous, but I'm struggling to think of anything that justifies what the daughter is doing.


I'm guessing we'll have a childhood abuse claim or some such.
2013-05-15 04:23:39 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.


Wasn't there an article on fark about her 18 months or so ago?  I remember reading a story like that.
2013-05-15 04:22:40 PM
1 votes:

JohnAnnArbor: 4chan, you have a new mission.

Go.


I had this same thought.   I'm not usually one for justice by Anonymous, but I'm struggling to think of anything that justifies what the daughter is doing.
 
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