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2013-05-15 04:49:59 PM  

ristst: The best idea is to TALK to your parents before they get too old and demented, and draw up a plan of action.


Yup. I know my mom wants to be cremated and her ashes spread or interred in her family's cemetery. My mom sister and me are all broke as fark so there's not like there's any money to deal with. As far as my dad goes though if I heard news he died I throw a farking party.

This woman either wants a shiatload of money or they're all in on it.
 
WGJ
2013-05-15 04:51:14 PM  
This is obviously a scam perpetrated by all 3 players. Old man plays a victim, daughter plays the villain and the granddaughter plays the hero scamming money from outraged people. Brilliant!
 
2013-05-15 04:51:59 PM  
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child.
 
2013-05-15 04:52:42 PM  

huckleberg: Private_Citizen: Worst. Daughter. Ever.

well, possibly ... but see ha-ha-guy's post and also ...

FOR ALL WE KNOW HE DIDDLED HER FOR YEARS AND NOW SHE'S PISSED.


true
 
2013-05-15 04:52:47 PM  

Killer Cars: James!: Once the mind goes you have to take drastic measures to protect your loved ones sometimes.

Normally I wouldn't interject much opinion on family matters I have no insight on, but the daughter declining to speak to the media, when I can't see how doing so would affect the eviction case whatsoever, is...interesting.


I don't think I'd want to talk to the media in her position. It really doesn't matter what the media thinks so long as you're not running afoul of the law. Nobody is obligated to give interviews.
 
2013-05-15 04:53:54 PM  

WGJ: This is obviously a scam perpetrated by all 3 players. Old man plays a victim, daughter plays the villain and the granddaughter plays the hero scamming money from outraged people. Brilliant!


Maybe, I doubt it.  I dunno.  I put up a gofundme page to try and get an album recorded and mixed and mastered.  I think I got 70.00 before it dropped off the map.  It could be a con, but it's a damn shaky one if it is.  I'm going with my initial post.
 
2013-05-15 04:54:07 PM  

Babwa Wawa: I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.


Yeah, actually she was found to have WRONGFULLY transferred the property to herself, but he got screw on the statute of limitations for getting your house stolen from you by the appellate court
 
2013-05-15 04:54:18 PM  
Why do we automatically accept the innocence of old people? Bad people get old too, we don't know much about the history of this guy and his kids. I lot of old people I know are exceptional and experienced liars.
 
2013-05-15 04:54:19 PM  

A Terrible Human: ristst: The best idea is to TALK to your parents before they get too old and demented, and draw up a plan of action.

Yup. I know my mom wants to be cremated and her ashes spread or interred in her family's cemetery. My mom, sister and me are all broke as fark so there's not like there's any money to deal with. As far as my dad goes though if I heard news he died I throw a farking party.

This woman either wants a shiatload of money or they're all in on it.


So broke we can't even afford commas around here it seems.
 
2013-05-15 04:54:34 PM  

GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.


Except for the fact that if you read the article you would know that they have transferred the power of attorney, been to cour, and told the state statute of limitations is past.. You're an attorney?
 
2013-05-15 04:54:44 PM  
I really hope that guy is an evil man who molested his daughter and tortured her because that's the only reason I can imagine why someone would forcibly kick their dad out of their own home. Otherwise, that daughter is a very nasty person!
 
2013-05-15 04:55:02 PM  
http://gawker.com/evil-daughter-evicting-elderly-dad-out-of-the-home- h e-506681695
The most details I see are in the gawker (cringe) article.
 
2013-05-15 04:56:33 PM  
Why does my cynical heart see this as "I want to give my kids $125,000, but I can't figure out how to drum up the cash... I know! I'll engineer a fake 'eviction', and then beg online for folks to send me cash to 'buy back' my home from my child. They get $125,000, I get my house back, I never actually get evicted, and nothing actually happens!"

Call me when he's homeless. I'll take it seriously then.
 
2013-05-15 04:56:39 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


Hate to admit it, but I had the same thing happen. I hope (oddly) that the poor guy just needs help and the daughter isn't simply evil. It's a no-winner situation.
 
2013-05-15 04:57:00 PM  

Babwa Wawa: FirstNationalBastard: Except she seems to have secretly and illegally transferred the house into her name, which is why she can even do this at all.

Allegedly secretly and illegally.  And if she were out for the $$, then why didn't she sell the house seven years ago?

Did you watch the video?  You really think that dude should be living by himself?


White knighting for this horrible woman because you had a bad experience with your family.  Classy.
 
2013-05-15 04:57:45 PM  

Netrngr: GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.

Except for the fact that if you read the article you would know that they have transferred the power of attorney, been to cour, and told the state statute of limitations is past.. You're an attorney?


Yes, I am and a very good one.  I am able to tell that I am a good attorney by the amount of money people are willing to pay to handle this kind of thing for them.
I have dealt with this before and if you keep reading the comments, you will see my plan for getting this done.
 
2013-05-15 04:58:42 PM  

ha-ha-guy: GungFu: ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


Yeah, but did you ask her to sign over the deeds to the house?
I get your point and it's a wholly justified one but what would necessitate signing away your home but still live there after 4 years? And the silence of it all until it was discovered pretty much makes me think: What a coont.

Her grandson had her declared incompetent and then the two of us shared power of attorney since her living situation was a clusterfark as were her finances.  I moved her back to Michigan and get into assisted living while her grandson sold the home and did what we could to go after the guys who scammed her.  Neither of us could visit her without 10 minutes of cursing after that.



I think you guys did the right thing. Good on ya! I have some experience of what you went through, though thankfully not the crazy financial stuff, just the doing the best for an elderly relation stuff.
 
2013-05-15 04:59:05 PM  
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Home of the free, brave, and greedy. You go girl.

...runs for the bomb shelter
 
2013-05-15 04:59:12 PM  

WGJ: This is obviously a scam perpetrated by all 3 players. Old man plays a victim, daughter plays the villain and the granddaughter plays the hero scamming money from outraged people. Brilliant!


I was kinda thinking this too, especially with the fund raiser.
 
2013-05-15 04:59:12 PM  

Ned Stark: skozlaw: As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.

You could have respected your grandmothers wishes and let her keep her own home and a little shred of dignity even if it did cost her two or three years of life that were pretty much bound to be shiat anyway. Seems like a choice to me.


This. People that assume to know what's best for others creep me out.
 
2013-05-15 04:59:13 PM  
Maybe the granddaughter raising money to keep grandpa in his home is the scam.
 
2013-05-15 04:59:16 PM  
If you actually read the gawker article it's more complicated than just a scam.  They want to keep him away from his autistic son Joe.  He's filing for visitation.  They evicted him to try to get him to stop the lawsuit.  They might really be douches or their might be more going on than it seems.
 
2013-05-15 04:59:38 PM  
And just as my own anecdotal two-cents.....

I had a neighbor that was quite old and an alcoholic. I wish she had a family member that exercised their POA and taken control of the situation. Instead what happen is she started 3 fires and was hospitalized for injuries numerous times before the state took control. I personally took her to the hospital on two occasions.

From the article, maybe the old guy isn't the problem at all. Maybe he was an unbelievable jerkoff while she was growing up and she's getting her payback. Who knows.
 
2013-05-15 04:59:50 PM  

GalFriday: I am able to tell that I am a good attorney by the amount of money people are willing to pay to handle this kind of thing for them.


Now that's funny.
 
2013-05-15 05:00:04 PM  

James!: Nobody is obligated to give interviews.


Not disagreeing, but I'd consider at least giving statements provided she has an understandable reason behind it. On the surface, it looks like she's serving up a stinking pig. In the world we live in rife with immediate vigilante internet justice, maybe it's worth trying put some lipstick on it.
 
2013-05-15 05:00:37 PM  

FormlessOne: Why does my cynical heart see this as "I want to give my kids $125,000, but I can't figure out how to drum up the cash... I know! I'll engineer a fake 'eviction', and then beg online for folks to send me cash to 'buy back' my home from my child. They get $125,000, I get my house back, I never actually get evicted, and nothing actually happens!"

Call me when he's homeless. I'll take it seriously then.


That's a damn good grif if (not) true. Ill have to chip in $5 out of respect.
 
2013-05-15 05:01:23 PM  

ha-ha-guy: GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.

Article mentions that the statue of limitations is up for such a course of action.


I'm sure you did that intentionally...so here's your pic:

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2013-05-15 05:02:27 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Do people even bother to read the articles before commenting on them?


No they don't. They really don't. You see all these questions and speculation that could be easily answered had they bothered to read more than just the Fark headline.
 
2013-05-15 05:02:50 PM  
Damn, I thought I was cynical and then I read this thread.
 
2013-05-15 05:03:04 PM  

Ned Stark: FormlessOne: Why does my cynical heart see this as "I want to give my kids $125,000, but I can't figure out how to drum up the cash... I know! I'll engineer a fake 'eviction', and then beg online for folks to send me cash to 'buy back' my home from my child. They get $125,000, I get my house back, I never actually get evicted, and nothing actually happens!"

Call me when he's homeless. I'll take it seriously then.

That's a damn good grif if (not) true. Ill have to chip in $5 out of respect.


Grift, even.
 
2013-05-15 05:03:24 PM  

bestie1: http://gawker.com/evil-daughter-evicting-elderly-dad-out-of-the-home- h e-506681695
The most details I see are in the gawker (cringe) article.


So she's willing to drop the eviction if old guy stops trying to get visitation on her handicapped brother.

From that you could draw the conclusion that she's trying to protect her brother from her father.
 
2013-05-15 05:03:39 PM  
I'm not normally this suspicious, but when I read the story, the first thing I thought of was the possibility that the daughter and granddaughter are working together to raise a boatload of money.

The daughter being so public about the eviction, the eviction date a month away, the GoFundMe drive, (which is now up to $87,000).

It's bothersome, but I think it's a scam.
 
2013-05-15 05:03:56 PM  
Sounds like a law firm could do a little pro bono work here that would make me like lawyers, just a little bit.
 
2013-05-15 05:04:02 PM  

WGJ: This is obviously a scam perpetrated by all 3 players. Old man plays a victim, daughter plays the villain and the granddaughter plays the hero scamming money from outraged people. Brilliant!


thank you
 
2013-05-15 05:04:09 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.


Unfortunately the cynical part of me thinks it is a third option - a scam.

He transfers power of attorney to daughter and then the daughter evicts him.  I get it, that's bad and I agree with your two potential possibilities.  But the response from his granddaughter was to set up a fund to buy the house back from his mom?  Not let him move in with her, not sue the daughter, not have him put in a home but rather, cut the mom a check for $125,000 from donations?

I smell shenanigans.
 
2013-05-15 05:04:11 PM  

Keeve: ArcadianRefugee: Do people even bother to read the articles before commenting on them?

No they don't. They really don't. You see all these questions and speculation that could be easily answered had they bothered to read more than just the Fark headline.


Yep, most of them just wanted to come in here and tell us about their sob stories.
 
2013-05-15 05:06:03 PM  

DubtodaIll: Why do we automatically accept the innocence of old people? Bad people get old too, we don't know much about the history of this guy and his kids. I lot of old people I know are exceptional and experienced liars.


Let's assume for the sake of argument that he is a bad guy.  Child molester, Nazi in hiding, puppy stomper, you name it.

Karma's a biatch and all, but...
How does this give his daughter any legal right to steal his house and kick him out?
 
2013-05-15 05:08:15 PM  
This guy is as old as my father would have been if he would ahve lived. I hope that he is able to save his home. If I was rich he would not have to worry about it.
 
2013-05-15 05:08:31 PM  

Walker: Let's sic /b/ on here. I just want to sic /b/ on everybody lately. First that restaurant couple and now her.


What restaurant couple? What did I miss?
 
2013-05-15 05:09:21 PM  

GalFriday: I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this. NO REASON AT ALL.


oh, c'mon...you're an attorney...  YOU should know better than anyone that there MIGHT be a damn good excuse for what she is doing......probably not, but there MIGHT be.  i'm surprised you would make such a blanket statement.
 
2013-05-15 05:11:28 PM  

oh_please: ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.

I dunno, watching the video, he seems coherent,  just old. I'm thinking he'd be fine in his house with some living assistance, someone to wash the dishes and do the laundry, stuff like that. I'm on the "daughter is a biatch" team.


Old people can be shockingly lucid or appear so.  You could have a full on conversation with my great aunt.  Of which she would remember nothing an hour later.  Her condition was such that her short term memory was hosed, but she could fill in the gaps with speculation to varying degrees of success.  For example if I told it was Sunday, she'd ask me if Michigan won their football game yesterday because she knew I always watched Michigan football.  What she'd lose track of was that it was June and there was no football to watch.

However if she managed to make a few lucky guesses via speculation and you didn't get into anything too current, she'd seem 100% there.
 
2013-05-15 05:13:04 PM  

kbronsito: If he's 91, his daughter is probably also old enough to be senile herself.


That hardly seems fair. If my father were alive he'd be 93, and I'm perfectly capable of...

...of...

...nevermind. Forgot what I was going to say.
 
2013-05-15 05:14:27 PM  

A Terrible Human: A Terrible Human: ristst: The best idea is to TALK to your parents before they get too old and demented, and draw up a plan of action.

Yup. I know my mom wants to be cremated and her ashes spread or interred in her family's cemetery. My mom, sister and me are all broke as fark so there's not like there's any money to deal with. As far as my dad goes though if I heard news he died I throw a farking party.

This woman either wants a shiatload of money or they're all in on it.

So broke we can't even afford commas around here it seems.


Hey, I got some extra semi-colons you can have. If you get a chisel, you can knock the tops off and use 'em.

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2013-05-15 05:15:06 PM  
Well, I think it's safe to assume there was one foxhole he's regretting going into now

/seriously, dick move on the daughter's part
 
2013-05-15 05:15:49 PM  
http://www.gofundme.com/GrandpaJohnJPotter?utm_campaign=Emails&utm_so u rce=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email

They got a few bucks rolling in.  They've more than doubled the reported 40k.
 
2013-05-15 05:16:56 PM  

luckyeddie: tuna fingers: WhippingBoy: 56 years and he couldn't pay off his house?

He paid it off, people are raising money so he can buy it back.  Then the shiatty daughter gets that 125K.  Arsenic in her tea seems like the better solution here.

On the other hand, it could be a very, very clever scam to chisel $125k out of the poor, unsuspecting internet, $125k which he and his daughter will spend on hookers and funerals.


Dude, have you MET the internet?  It deserves to be beaten, robbed blind, and left in an alley...
 
2013-05-15 05:19:02 PM  

Babwa Wawa: FirstNationalBastard: Except she seems to have secretly and illegally transferred the house into her name, which is why she can even do this at all.

Allegedly secretly and illegally.  And if she were out for the $$, then why didn't she sell the house seven years ago?


Because according to the significantly more detailed ABC News article, she's been secretly selling off parcels of another piece of her father's property for awhile now.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/91-year-ohio-man-evicted-home-daughte r/ story?id=19134306
 
2013-05-15 05:20:09 PM  
Center of her own attention, indeed.
 
2013-05-15 05:22:35 PM  
CSB - Disclaimer - I have not seen these people since I was a kid and do not consider them family.

My Aunt and Uncle lived with my Grandma in Florida.  Aunt and Uncle are in there 60's (losers).  Uncle gets Grandma to sign over power of attorney (Grandma has the onset of dementia), then promptly refinances Grandma's house to put a down payment on his own house.  He loses that house and then goes back to Grandma's house.  They put Grandma in a home thinking they can still collect her Social Security.  The home takes the SS to take care of Grandmas expenses.Aunt and Uncle wait till the house is foreclosed upon and flee to Tennessee.    Where they will remain dead to me forever.  The aristocrats.

The only upside is that other relatives helped Grandma get into a very nice care facility.
 
2013-05-15 05:23:47 PM  

GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.


As another attorney, I'm wondering why his attorney didn't get around the statute of limitations by arguing that the transfer resulted in a constructive trust in favor of the father, and ask the court to issue an order that the property belongs to the father.
 
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