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2013-05-15 05:23:52 PM

Kionae: Babwa Wawa: FirstNationalBastard: Except she seems to have secretly and illegally transferred the house into her name, which is why she can even do this at all.

Allegedly secretly and illegally.  And if she were out for the $$, then why didn't she sell the house seven years ago?

Because according to the significantly more detailed ABC News article, she's been secretly selling off parcels of another piece of her father's property for awhile now.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/91-year-ohio-man-evicted-home-daughte r/ story?id=19134306


Wow, from the ABC News article you linked:

"While the home is not for sale, Fraley said other family members have told her and her attorney that her mother would allow him to stay in the home if enough money could be raised to buy it."

So, raising all this money isn't even for buying the home back, she won't sell it back. . .she'll just not evict him if he pays her the cash value of the home?

What a biatch.
 
2013-05-15 05:24:05 PM

SpectroBoy: To the skank-ho-daughter


This. The Special Hell.
 
2013-05-15 05:26:39 PM
Sound like a family that really hates each other and the discord will be there long after Mr. Potter goes. The granddaughter dislikes her mother and if there is a rotten reason for Potter to be evicted from the house, well, she's got a built-in hate party ready to pounce on her when the situation presents itself.
 
2013-05-15 05:26:50 PM
I went back to Ohio,
but my shiatter was gone.
 
2013-05-15 05:28:16 PM
You cant take his house, hes too old!!

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2013-05-15 05:29:43 PM
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2013-05-15 05:32:09 PM

sandi_fish: CSB - Disclaimer - I have not seen these people since I was a kid and do not consider them family.

My Aunt and Uncle lived with my Grandma in Florida.  Aunt and Uncle are in there 60's (losers).  Uncle gets Grandma to sign over power of attorney (Grandma has the onset of dementia), then promptly refinances Grandma's house to put a down payment on his own house.  He loses that house and then goes back to Grandma's house.  They put Grandma in a home thinking they can still collect her Social Security.  The home takes the SS to take care of Grandmas expenses.Aunt and Uncle wait till the house is foreclosed upon and flee to Tennessee.    Where they will remain dead to me forever.  The aristocrats.

The only upside is that other relatives helped Grandma get into a very nice care facility.


If you ever have the misfortune of crossing paths with those scum, punch them in the face

/and once for me too
 
2013-05-15 05:32:41 PM
My wife's aunt coerced her mother into leaving all her property to the aunt's son. Grandma called us saying "Faye is trying to steal everything!" Of course we assured her that sweet aunt Faye wouldn't do such a thing. A couple of years later we found out we were wrong.

/burn in Hell, witch!
 
2013-05-15 05:32:43 PM
I smell a scam.
 
2013-05-15 05:35:14 PM

No Time To Explain: sandi_fish: CSB - Disclaimer - I have not seen these people since I was a kid and do not consider them family.

My Aunt and Uncle lived with my Grandma in Florida.  Aunt and Uncle are in there 60's (losers).  Uncle gets Grandma to sign over power of attorney (Grandma has the onset of dementia), then promptly refinances Grandma's house to put a down payment on his own house.  He loses that house and then goes back to Grandma's house.  They put Grandma in a home thinking they can still collect her Social Security.  The home takes the SS to take care of Grandmas expenses.Aunt and Uncle wait till the house is foreclosed upon and flee to Tennessee.    Where they will remain dead to me forever.  The aristocrats.

The only upside is that other relatives helped Grandma get into a very nice care facility.

If you ever have the misfortune of crossing paths with those scum, punch them in the face

/and once for me too


You have my word on that.
 
2013-05-15 05:35:25 PM

Ned Stark: skozlaw: As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.

You could have respected your grandmothers wishes and let her keep her own home and a little shred of dignity even if it did cost her two or three years of life that were pretty much bound to be shiat anyway. Seems like a choice to me.


There is no dignity in lying in a puddle of your own feces for several days because no one knows you fell down and starving to death is a really horrible way to go.
 
2013-05-15 05:37:16 PM
i.imgur.com

If that is the daughter, she ought to be ASHAMED of herself. I'm sure she will have some tale as to why she feels her actions are justified but it is clear that forgiveness is not in her character.
 
2013-05-15 05:41:57 PM

FormlessOne: Why does my cynical heart see this as "I want to give my kids $125,000, but I can't figure out how to drum up the cash... I know! I'll engineer a fake 'eviction', and then beg online for folks to send me cash to 'buy back' my home from my child. They get $125,000, I get my house back, I never actually get evicted, and nothing actually happens!"

Call me when he's homeless. I'll take it seriously then.


Precisely what I was thinking.  I did a quick page search on "fake" to see if it had been mentioned yet before I said anything and there you were.  I don't think it's cynical at all, by the way.  A family of grifters is just as likely as the "horrible daughter" story.
 
2013-05-15 05:42:43 PM
Instead of trying to buy the house back for him, the granddaughter should have her mother and stepfather whacked.
 
2013-05-15 05:42:53 PM

RedT: DubtodaIll: Why do we automatically accept the innocence of old people? Bad people get old too, we don't know much about the history of this guy and his kids. I lot of old people I know are exceptional and experienced liars.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that he is a bad guy.  Child molester, Nazi in hiding, puppy stomper, you name it.

Karma's a biatch and all, but...
How does this give his daughter any legal right to steal his house and kick him out?


That isn't what gives her the legal right. That's what gives her the moral right. She acquired the legal right elsewhere.

In just about ever child molestation thread, I hear people propose with all seriousness any number of extralegal punishments for child abusers. People expect and want them to be tortured in prison, and harassed for life upon release. I'd say getting evicted from your home at 91 is a pretty mild punishment for emotionally destroying your child.

Of course, if that is her motive, she can't say so publicly until he's dead. Civil liability and all. Even then she might not want to say anything to the press just for the sake of her granddaughter and other family members.

 
2013-05-15 05:49:43 PM

kbronsito: if she is just being an evil greedy biatch, I hope her kids learn from her example and avenge grandpa by behaving in exactly the same way.


Maybe she did learn by example and is avenging her grandparents.
 
2013-05-15 05:55:30 PM

Baz744: RedT: DubtodaIll: Why do we automatically accept the innocence of old people? Bad people get old too, we don't know much about the history of this guy and his kids. I lot of old people I know are exceptional and experienced liars.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that he is a bad guy.  Child molester, Nazi in hiding, puppy stomper, you name it.

Karma's a biatch and all, but...
How does this give his daughter any legal right to steal his house and kick him out?

That isn't what gives her the legal right. That's what gives her the moral right. She acquired the legal right elsewhere.

In just about ever child molestation thread, I hear people propose with all seriousness any number of extralegal punishments for child abusers. People expect and want them to be tortured in prison, and harassed for life upon release. I'd say getting evicted from your home at 91 is a pretty mild punishment for emotionally destroying your child.

Of course, if that is her motive, she can't say so publicly until he's dead. Civil liability and all. Even then she might not want to say anything to the press just for the sake of her granddaughter and other family members.


Another disturbing possibility: The grandfather's abused his autistic son in some way, and she's acting in payback for the way he treated her brother, and is using the funds to pay for the brother's care. That would explain why she doesn't want to talk publicly about it and why the grandfather keeps trying to take them to court over visitation.

Really, we can come up with what-ifs all day long. The story at the moment is very one-sided and I'm not willing to buy into it enough to donate.
 
2013-05-15 05:58:23 PM
We had an old man in our community who couldn't take care of himself.  He lived in a house his daughter owned

I don't know the details, but she decided the only thing she could do was evict him.    The Sheriff was scheduled to arrive at 9:30 pm to escort him off the property.

At 8:30pm, the fire department was called.    He has poured a container of gasoline on the floors of the garage and kitchen.   Opened all the doors and windows, lit it, then gone out to the front lawn to watch it while he drank a beer.

When the beer was gone, he killed himself with a shotgun.    This could get a lot worse for this family

/tripped over his body, in the dark, trying to pull a firehouse around to the garage
//saved the house, was repaired and a new family living there in less than 6 months
 
2013-05-15 06:02:19 PM
What, no one has bothered to look up other stories yet?

Link


Apparently the grandfather was also being a dickbag about the 63 year old Autistic son.

Also:

"Janice [Cottril] has refused to comment on the story, but Dean did tell WCMH the couple was willing to let Potter stay in his home if he stopped trying to take them to court over Joe."
Whole family full of winners, sounds like the granddaughter needs to butt out.
 
2013-05-15 06:04:25 PM

drb9: I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.


I wonder about that as well.
 
2013-05-15 06:04:55 PM
Jesus.  I would sell everything I own for my dad if he needed it.  I don't know what's going on here.
 
2013-05-15 06:07:26 PM

ph0rk: What, no one has bothered to look up other stories yet?

Link


Apparently the grandfather was also being a dickbag about the 63 year old Autistic son.

Also:

"Janice [Cottril] has refused to comment on the story, but Dean did tell WCMH the couple was willing to let Potter stay in his home if he stopped trying to take them to court over Joe."
Whole family full of winners, sounds like the granddaughter needs to butt out.


So he wanted to be able to see his kid but they said no and therefore he's an asshole.
 
2013-05-15 06:09:56 PM

sycraft: In part for human contact, as well as food.


Kinda like why I goto hooters.
 
2013-05-15 06:16:02 PM
I used to think my family was disfunctional, but stories like this prove we are about as good as it gets.

My dad (passed last month) gave my brother full power of attorney.  My brother got my dad to get a reverse mortgage on the house.  No, my brother wasn't pulling off a scam.  He made sure my dad got a good monthly income from the mortgage company that would sustain him.  None of us were interested in getting the house so it was a good deal all around.  As for dividing up the personal effects.  There have been no arguments other than us having to INSIST my nephew take his grandfather's .22 rifle and acoustic guitar, DAMN IT!

After the service we swapped stories.  My niece loved the one about her grandfather punching out his cousin JG Wentworth when they were teenagers.  Yes.  That JG Wentworth.  The guy was an asshole.
 
2013-05-15 06:18:55 PM

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


This. More details are needed. Given how common that scenario is,  I'd consider it a valid possibility.

A dear, dear friend of mine is going through that right now, and the poor old lady has already been scammed, beaten by home invaders, robbed, had a bad fall and worse. She can't understand why her grandkids are trying to get her out of her house despite the fact that the neighborhood has seriously deteriorated around her, her family all live far, far away and she really can't care for herself anymore, plus she refuses to go to a facility. And my friend, her brother and their respective spouses refuse to have her go to one, especially since their grandfather died in a VA hospital when they were small.

So my poor friend has her grandmother 'visiting for the summer' in her upstairs guestroom now and has been painstakingly converting her basement into as close a replica of the little ranch house as she can manage. I've been helping her photograph, pack, move and replace pieces of furniture, knick-knacks and all sorts of things from the house five hours away to her downstairs (we're going in sections,) my husband and friend's husband have installed a chair lift, LED-backed false windows tuned to the natural light, all the ADA-compliance bells and whistles, and friend's little daughter, who is four, has been 'keeping Gam-Gam company' while the adults do this. We got her a little pay-as-you-go cellphone and if Gam-Gam needs an adult, the little girl can text and get one of us from downstairs in seconds while protecting the old lady's dignity.

Friend's brother and his wife live too far away to really help, but they've been sending money and Skyping with Gam-Gam whenever we have a task that needs all four adults, like moving in the head and footboards the old lady is used to and assembling them around the nice adjustable hospital-bed so it's more functional but still as pretty. (Good lord, did that take a butt-load of work! We had to essentially design a new frame that went under and around the hospital bed, but still held the head and footboards up with the strength needed for an older lady to lean against them when needed. The husbands welded it together out of pipes, angle iron and scraps from the junkyard, then we ladies bolted on connectors that matched the antique bed's rails so the head and footies go on right where they'd be with the original bed, Rust-Oleum'd the whole shebang flat brown to blend in against the floor and only THEN could we move it in in three sections and assemble the whole shebang. It was epic and the boys say we'll totally put it up on Instructables as soon as they do up better CAD drawings.)

My friend's father, who is estranged from his mother and kind of a dickbag, thinks friend is nuts for putting all this effort into making a comfortable, sanity-and-dignity-preserving abode for the old lady. It hasn't cost her more than a few thousand dollars and since she's already a work-from-home mom whose daughter is very bright, it's really not SO bad to take the responsibility on, but friend really did not take her ass-pocket dad's remarks well.

So she let the four-year-old 'take reffence pictures' of Grandpa's house with a digital camera "so I can make my basement look right when you're old." Preschoolers are surprisingly good at a point well made.

My gift to the dear old lady, who has been unbelievably kind to my friend and I since we were little girls, is having season-appropriate transparencies made of the view from her house's windows and installing them with magnets behind the glass of the LED-backed false windows, so the basement even looks that much more like her home, and I've also built a fake fireplace that slots into her old woodstove so it will still seem real. In her more lucid moments, she's said that she loves us all for bringing her home to her now that it's getting so hard to keep up, but when her mind wanders, it's like she can't imagine she's anyplace else but the home she and her late husband had since the Forties.

I only pray that my future grandchildren are anything like my friend.
 
2013-05-15 06:19:51 PM
Man I hope I die before I get old. This shiat is heartbreaking, whether the daughter is doing good by her father or breaking it off inside his ass, this is a bummer.
 
2013-05-15 06:26:19 PM

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


This bears repeating. Similar situation with my father.

Gonna go cry now.
 
2013-05-15 06:30:49 PM

weiserfireman: We had an old man in our community who couldn't take care of himself.  He lived in a house his daughter owned
I don't know the details, but she decided the only thing she could do was evict him.    The Sheriff was scheduled to arrive at 9:30 pm to escort him off the property.
At 8:30pm, the fire department was called.    He has poured a container of gasoline on the floors of the garage and kitchen.   Opened all the doors and windows, lit it, then gone out to the front lawn to watch it while he drank a beer.
When the beer was gone, he killed himself with a shotgun.    This could get a lot worse for this family
/tripped over his body, in the dark, trying to pull a firehouse around to the garage
//saved the house, was repaired and a new family living there in less than 6 months



Wow. That is an absolutely terrible story. I'm so sorry.  If he couldnt take care of himself, how is evicting him going to help matters?  She is partly responsible for that outcome.
 
2013-05-15 06:34:08 PM

alaric3: He's old enough to kill his children with impunity right?


Only with his bare hands.

/29 more years until he gets to be President.
//Patton Oswalt FTW
 
2013-05-15 06:37:59 PM

mesmer242: Baz744: RedT: DubtodaIll: Why do we automatically accept the innocence of old people? Bad people get old too, we don't know much about the history of this guy and his kids. I lot of old people I know are exceptional and experienced liars.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that he is a bad guy.  Child molester, Nazi in hiding, puppy stomper, you name it.

Karma's a biatch and all, but...
How does this give his daughter any legal right to steal his house and kick him out?

That isn't what gives her the legal right. That's what gives her the moral right. She acquired the legal right elsewhere.

In just about ever child molestation thread, I hear people propose with all seriousness any number of extralegal punishments for child abusers. People expect and want them to be tortured in prison, and harassed for life upon release. I'd say getting evicted from your home at 91 is a pretty mild punishment for emotionally destroying your child.

Of course, if that is her motive, she can't say so publicly until he's dead. Civil liability and all. Even then she might not want to say anything to the press just for the sake of her granddaughter and other family members.

Another disturbing possibility: The grandfather's abused his autistic son in some way, and she's acting in payback for the way he treated her brother, and is using the funds to pay for the brother's care. That would explain why she doesn't want to talk publicly about it and why the grandfather keeps trying to take them to court over visitation.

Really, we can come up with what-ifs all day long. The story at the moment is very one-sided and I'm not willing to buy into it enough to donate.


This.

I'm surprised how many people are willing to jump to outrage because the daughter isn't addressing the media. First thought that occurred to me was potential abuse of the brother. Forget just taking care of himself, this old man was looking after a handicapped senior as well, one can only wonder how well. It's likely there is much more to this story.
 
2013-05-15 06:38:24 PM

Orange-Pippin: weiserfireman: We had an old man in our community who couldn't take care of himself.  He lived in a house his daughter owned
I don't know the details, but she decided the only thing she could do was evict him.    The Sheriff was scheduled to arrive at 9:30 pm to escort him off the property.
At 8:30pm, the fire department was called.    He has poured a container of gasoline on the floors of the garage and kitchen.   Opened all the doors and windows, lit it, then gone out to the front lawn to watch it while he drank a beer.
When the beer was gone, he killed himself with a shotgun.    This could get a lot worse for this family
/tripped over his body, in the dark, trying to pull a firehouse around to the garage
//saved the house, was repaired and a new family living there in less than 6 months


Wow. That is an absolutely terrible story. I'm so sorry.  If he couldnt take care of himself, how is evicting him going to help matters?  She is partly responsible for that outcome.


The police department had all of his weapons in protective custody, because everyone involved thought he would be suicidal or violent.    He traded a neighbor a rubber raft for the shotgun the day before.
 
2013-05-15 06:39:32 PM

Orange-Pippin: She is partly responsible for that outcome.


No.  No one is responsible for the old man setting the house on fire and killing himself but the old man.  No one could make that decision but him.  Besides, I think the idea with the eviction is to force the community service agencies or state to assume care.  For many programs the old person needs to have very little personal income or be indigent.  Not my preferred method, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
2013-05-15 06:40:34 PM
Warthog * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-05-15 04:24:29 PM WhippingBoy: 56 years and he couldn't pay off his house? I took from the article that he owned the house, then the daughter fraudulently transferred it to her name. The money they are trying to raise is to buy back the house the daughter essentially stole.
-------------------------------------------------------

Yes. According to the article, he gave her Power of Attorney over him in case of him going all 'old age'. She decided to transfer the deed to herself, which is illegal. He sued, but apparently the statute of limitations had passed by that time.
 
2013-05-15 06:41:09 PM

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


So much this. it could be either. A lot of elderly people don't recognize their own deterioration and are in (increasing)danger if they stay in their own home. It could be the daughter is just a cold, greedy jerk too. But I wouldn't judge without hearing both sides.
 
2013-05-15 06:44:35 PM
There seems to be a squabble over visitation rights with his special needs son.

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/on/vet-john-potter-eviction-daughter/

The daughter then chose to evict him. It's unclear whether the son lives with him or her and exactly who wants to visit him. The POA also gives her guardianship of the son.

BTW. I was unable to GIS anything on the 'bad' daughter. Only the 'good' daughter showed up.

Either way, no one should throw the old man out of his own house, especially at his age, due to a family spat. All of this aggravation can seriously be affecting his health which can cause him an early death. At 91 it's a marvel he has all of his mental facilities left and seems to be in quite good health.

I've read the comments about how this might be a scam, but I kind of doubt it. It's gotten a lot of coverage by other news media.

I have a Durable POA for my mom, who I take care of. I also am on the deed to the home, placed there when one family member expressed concern over her decision to initially do so. Other family members promptly moved to get me on the deed and did so.

Interestingly enough, the family member who expressed doubt is the most well off of them all.

I've made it absolutely clear to all of my Mom's physicians that putting her in a home is out of the question. I already know that if she was ever sent to one that within a year she'd be dead.

She built the house we live in with my late Dad. She raised us kids there. The back yard has 50+ years of cherished family pets buried there. We have two cats and one (insane) Chihuahua and she's happy with them and being in her own home. Built in 1958, it's a bit run down and needs fixing, but it's her home.

Almost everything in it has cherished memories attached. At night she goes to bed in her own room of many years. During the day, she looks out at the windows at the yard she landscaped time and time again. She can still tell me where her Lilies of decades ago were.

I assume it's something like that for the old man. He knows every creak and joint in the house. He'll probably recall where one of his daughters spilled her juice when she was little. The house is familiar and comfortable, worn in to fit him like an old glove. It's helping to prolong his life and health.

It seems to me that it's getting harder to toss out squatters and easier to toss out long term owner/builders.
 
2013-05-15 06:47:24 PM

gadian: Orange-Pippin: She is partly responsible for that outcome.

No.  No one is responsible for the old man setting the house on fire and killing himself but the old man.  No one could make that decision but him.  Besides, I think the idea with the eviction is to force the community service agencies or state to assume care.  For many programs the old person needs to have very little personal income or be indigent.  Not my preferred method, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.


I can see what your saying but forcing eviction so the "state can assume" care (which I guess is quite possibly this womans motive) isn't right. Think about it, you live in a home for years, maybe decades. Your daughter decides she wants to do things on the cheap and force the state to care for him as a indigent and then forces your eviction at a very elderly age. Are you going to go willingly to one of those horrible places? I was an Paramedic and you wouldn't believe the things I saw at Care Facilities for the poor--abuse, mental intimidation, the works. Sorry, but she's partly to blame and hopefuly she'll make ammends.
 
2013-05-15 06:49:01 PM
Looks like this is the gist of the matter:

When contacted by AOL Real Estate, Janice Cottrill and her husband, Dean, declined to comment. Their lawyer, Lorene Johnston, told AOL Real Estate that Potter and Fraley are "attempting to stir up public sentiment for themselves." She called the upcoming eviction hearing "a simple eviction process for someone who doesn't own the home and doesn't pay any rent."
Dean Cottrill did tell WCMH, which first reported this story, that Potter had been filing suit against him and Janice for visitation rights with his son. "For him to stay in that home, it is real simple. Leave Joe alone and stop the lawsuits," Dean Cottrill told WCMH, referring to Potter's autistic son.

(http://realestate.aol.com/blog/on/vet-john-potter-eviction-daughter / )

Not clear why the evil daughter wants the father from visiting the autistic son; apparently there's been some legal battles there. But evil daughter is definitely pulling an evil trick by kicking him out of his house.
 
2013-05-15 06:49:40 PM
Not sure if it's been posted yet, but here's her Facebook page if anyone wants to "look" at it.  https://www.facebook.com/janice.cottrill.7?fref=ts">https://www.faceb ook.com/janice.cottrill.7?fref=ts
 
2013-05-15 06:50:11 PM

James!: I'd have to know more about the family before I can judge the daughter.  She may have a perfectly valid reason to kick the old coot to the curb.


Given that her own daughter is spearheading the campaign to keep the old man in the house, it's safe to say the daughter is an evil whore.
 
2013-05-15 07:03:15 PM
GalFriday:

**NOTE TO ALL FARKERS** Never give your Power of Attorney for money and your Power of Attorney for health to the same person.

Why not, if you don't mind my asking.  I was POA for my mom, both medical and financial, when she was terminally ill.  It was truly a horrendously frightening position to be in, but she didn't trust anyone else to not take advantage of her.
 
2013-05-15 07:06:11 PM

Satanic_Hamster: drb9: I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.

Was suspicious of this as well.

Also possible is the theory that he's not capable of taking care of himself and this is their method of getting him into a nursing home.  I had a neighbor who's kids had to do that.  Woman was a danger to herself.  Sweet, nice old lady, I helped her when I could but she was going to kill herself if she kept on like that.


I bought my first house almost 5 years ago now, and met the old lady across the street not long afterwards, as one of her lightbulbs in a 2-bulb fixture burned out and she was afraid to turn it on lest a fire start.  All the spare bulbs in her house had already been used and burned out.  There were probably 10 of them.  I fetched a replacement bulb from my house, and informed her that she could throw away the old ones.  In subsequent years, as I've returned to replace additional lightbulbs, the collection of burned bulbs has just gone up and up...

One night her security light that she leaves on in her kitchen had burned out.  I was gone when she called, but the message she left was absolutely the saddest message I'd heard in like ever...  She was absolutely terrified about not having this light bulb available.  Nevermind that she had other light fixtures in the kitchen that could have accomplished the same thing (blinds drawn, just need light from SOMEWHERE to make it seem like someone is home).

She's 90+ years old.  Husband has been dead for 20 years.  Lives alone, and I never see anyone but family and her helper stop by.  Hired helper comes once a week.  Her son lives about an hour away, but I rarely see him and his family.  When she walks around the house she has to steady herself on a wall or other objects.   I'm surprised she hasn't fallen yet, that I know of.

It's just a sad, sad circumstance.  I know I'm going to come home one day and there's going to be an ambulance there, and it'll be because she's dead or she fell and almost died.  She really should be in an assisted facility, or have a full-time helper.  I just hope when I get to be old and batty, me or my kids will have enough sense to get me into a nice home, or get me full-time help.

CSSB :(
 
2013-05-15 07:08:51 PM

Orange-Pippin: I can see what your saying but forcing eviction so the "state can assume" care (which I guess is quite possibly this womans motive) isn't right. Think about it, you live in a home for years, maybe decades. Your daughter decides she wants to do things on the cheap and force the state to care for him as a indigent and then forces your eviction at a very elderly age. Are you going to go willingly to one of those horrible places? I was an Paramedic and you wouldn't believe the things I saw at Care Facilities for the poor--abuse, mental intimidation, the works. Sorry, but she's partly to blame and hopefuly she'll make ammends.


There's unwilling to go and then there's setting a house on fire and shooting yourself.  Suicide is the ultimate act of personal responsibility and choice, don't cheapen it with "she made him do it".  I've seen horrible Care Facilities like you mention, but I've also seen elderly unable to care for themselves at home.  Old women with cockroaches climbing around their mouths while they veg in front of the TV, men who've been on a floor for days and sobbing, covered in their own excrement, on and on.  It's not a good option, but sometimes a state home is the better choice.
 
2013-05-15 07:13:40 PM
A.  Utterly destroy the inside of the house.

B.  Use money to buy nice little place.

Live out your days wit the sweet pleasure of your daughter not getting one dime of the donated funds.
 
2013-05-15 07:31:00 PM
i say castrate her
 
2013-05-15 07:38:04 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the grand daughter who setup the GoFundMe.com plea is working with her mother to fleece the public out of their cash. Haven't we seen many stories of fake cancer patients making money off of donations?
 
2013-05-15 07:48:53 PM

willfullyobscure: She's on Facebook. yeeeesssshhh.


So is her daughter, the nice one. With photos of her and Grandpa.

A post from April includes this gem: "My mother states she needs money and selling his house is the only way to get it."

Also included: pics of daughter being athletic and such. Have fun, guys!
 
2013-05-15 07:49:46 PM
The only way this could justified is if he abused her horribly as a child.
 
2013-05-15 07:57:56 PM
The daughter needs to hook up with the guy who stole his wife's insurance money. She could give birth to the anti-christ... or a GOP Presidential candidate.
 
2013-05-15 08:01:12 PM
When my paternal grandmother died my dad didn't get anything because in her will it said he had borrowed $87,000 throughout her life. My sister me got $100 a piece. My two aunts got around $500,000 from the insurance company while my family lived less than 50 feet away living on food stamps.
/My dad probably deserved getting cut out but what the hell did me and my sister do?
 
2013-05-15 08:31:09 PM
Put me in the "This is a scam" crowd.  This is just way too fishy.  According to their FundMe site, they already have over $100k.  In either circumstance, that biatch needs a serious beatdown.
 
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