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2013-05-15 04:29:42 PM

Babwa Wawa: I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.


...or she could just be an offensively malodorous coont.
 
2013-05-15 04:30:15 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Mrs.Sharpier: FirstNationalBastard: IgG4: I have a plan, but it is going to involve lots and lots of balloons.

Will he have an annoying, chubby Asian kid teach him how to open his heart to love again?

That kid was Asian?

I think that's a Gran Torino reference?


Maybe.  I see a lot of things on xhamster that that could reference.  Is there a crowded bus?  Or a sailor moon costume?
 
2013-05-15 04:30:46 PM
Need Paul Harvey on this so we can get ...wait for it...the rest of the story

Good Day
 
2013-05-15 04:30:54 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Do people even bother to read the articles before commenting on them?


This surprises you?
 
2013-05-15 04:31:02 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: GalFriday: Mrs.Sharpier: FirstNationalBastard: IgG4: I have a plan, but it is going to involve lots and lots of balloons.

Will he have an annoying, chubby Asian kid teach him how to open his heart to love again?

That kid was Asian?

I thought he was just fat and that is why his eyes were squinty.

Me too.


Okay, maybe half-Asian?
 
2013-05-15 04:31:08 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Except she seems to have secretly and illegally transferred the house into her name, which is why she can even do this at all.


Allegedly secretly and illegally.  And if she were out for the $$, then why didn't she sell the house seven years ago?

Did you watch the video?  You really think that dude should be living by himself?
 
2013-05-15 04:31:11 PM
I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.
 
2013-05-15 04:31:19 PM
She's on Facebook. yeeeesssshhh.
 
2013-05-15 04:32:21 PM

drb9: I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.


That occurred to me, too.
 
2013-05-15 04:32:45 PM
He's old enough to kill his children with impunity right?
 
2013-05-15 04:32:48 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Do people even bother to read the articles before commenting on them?


The sound was down but, I got the gist of what was said.
 
2013-05-15 04:32:51 PM
Babwa Wawa: I was thinking "what a coont" until I saw this: "my grandfather deserves to stay in his home as long as he possibly can."   Which prompted me to speculate that there might be more to this than just an old man getting evicted by his daughter.  The guy might be unable to live safely by himself, and the daughter is using the only legal mechanism she has to get the fella into a more safe environment.


Why doesn't she just say so then. The hiding behind the court and refusing to give her side while asking for thousands of dollars to sell him back the house all sounds a little odd for someone that is try trying to do the right thing.
 
2013-05-15 04:32:57 PM
Instead of raising money to buy the house they should make a donation to the local motorcycle enthusiasts club to persuade the daughter into a change of heart.
 
2013-05-15 04:33:16 PM

GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.


FTA:The rest of the family didn't discover the transfer until 2010, Fraley said, and though other family members tried to reverse the allegedly illegal transfer an appeal court ruled the four-year statute of limitations had expired.

As a merely well paid attorney, I would hope a fellow attorney had better reading comprehension.

\Evidently, Ohio doesn't have a strong abuse of elderly statute.
 
2013-05-15 04:34:26 PM
My mother developed senile dementia way too early and was convinced to sign over her power of attorney to a lawyer who clearly had ulterior motives.  I got it changed around before he do anything malicious but goddamn...it's way too much power to give to anyone whom you do not absolutely trust with everything.
 
2013-05-15 04:34:44 PM

huckleberg: Crewmannumber6: Have fun sucking cocks in hell, coont.

again, we don't know ... maybe he diddled her and now he's gettin' what's comin' ...


You have a sick old man and his daughter fetish, huh?
 
2013-05-15 04:34:45 PM
What.

A.

C*nt.

.
 
2013-05-15 04:35:24 PM

Private_Citizen: Worst. Daughter. Ever.


Ashley Gold?
 
2013-05-15 04:35:38 PM

IgG4: I have a plan, but it is going to involve lots and lots of balloons popcorn and a laser mounted on a plane.

Fixed.

 
2013-05-15 04:35:44 PM

drb9: I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.


You're not the only one suspicious about that. Though I'm generally far too cynical for my own good.
 
2013-05-15 04:35:46 PM

James!: I'd have to know more about the family before I can judge the daughter.  She may have a perfectly valid reason to kick the old coot to the curb.


Another article said that the old man gave up custody rights to his autistic son to the daughter a few years back and the daughter claims he has been using the court system to harass her and her husband over visitation.

So as much as I'd like to be outraged, it may be a case of "old guy can't take care of himself or his autistic son, daughter takes over, daughter has to sell house to pay for care of autistic son and old guy."
 
2013-05-15 04:36:19 PM

drb9: I didn't bother to see if someone else raised this possibility already:  This is just a clever scheme by the grandfather, mother, and daughter to scam the public out of $125,000.


Was suspicious of this as well.

Also possible is the theory that he's not capable of taking care of himself and this is their method of getting him into a nursing home.  I had a neighbor who's kids had to do that.  Woman was a danger to herself.  Sweet, nice old lady, I helped her when I could but she was going to kill herself if she kept on like that.
 
2013-05-15 04:36:54 PM
We went out of our way to avoid this. Before grandad passed on, he signed his half of the house over to the daughter, rather than having it go to grandma. She was p. batshiat evil at that point. I mean beating the dying man kind of farked up. After he died & she found out, we were the scum of the earth, because the silly cow couldn't understand that if a nurse or physician declared her senile (as they are wont to do) revenue claims the house and stuff her in a home early. We -saved- the home, got her in-house care on his will proceeds, but all the family in that neck of the woods thinks we're dirt for "pulling a fast one" :|

Either way, this biatch sounds like a right skank-ho, as aforementioned.
 
2013-05-15 04:37:34 PM

cenobyte40k: Why doesn't she just say so then.


This article doesn't seem to be interested in both sides.  But an eviction case has nothing to do with the mental state of the evicted, so it would be irrelevant.  And if she doesn't have a legal leg to stand on to get him into an appropriate environment, she could be using the only legal tool she has available to her (not having POA anymore).
 
2013-05-15 04:38:29 PM

James!: I'd have to know more about the family before I can judge the daughter.  She may have a perfectly valid reason to kick the old coot to the curb.


I was thinking this too, but the fact that she is denying to make any comment makes me wonder...
 
2013-05-15 04:38:42 PM

GalFriday: I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this. NO REASON AT ALL.


We don't know that.  I can think of a few.
 
2013-05-15 04:39:48 PM

KJUW89: I was thinking this too, but the fact that she is denying to make any comment makes me wonder...


As I posted upthread, her eviction case might be damaged if she lets onto an ulterior motive for the eviction.
 
2013-05-15 04:40:02 PM

ha-ha-guy: GalFriday: zyrian: So people are raising money to pay off that assgoblin of a daughter? As much as I'm not a fan of the legal system, that money is better spent on blood-sucking attorneys.

As a blood-sucking attorney, I would get an injunction halting the eviction.  Then, I would get the POA reversed, then I would have the property rightfully restored to him.  Then, I would seek criminal charges against the daughter.
I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this.  NO REASON AT ALL.

I hate it when people take advantage of the elderly or the mentally disabled.

Article mentions that the statue of limitations is up for such a course of action.


I read the article.  That is why you get the POA reversed first, then get the house rightfully restored.  If I can prove that the POA was given under duress or that the father believed that the POA would be used for something else, then I can get it the POA voided and all actions that she took within that POA can be reconsidered and the statute of limitations will reset itself.

**NOTE TO ALL FARKERS** Never give your Power of Attorney for money and your Power of Attorney for health to the same person.
 
2013-05-15 04:40:02 PM

berylman: My mother developed senile dementia way too early and was convinced to sign over her power of attorney to a lawyer who clearly had ulterior motives.  I got it changed around before he do anything malicious but goddamn...it's way too much power to give to anyone whom you do not absolutely trust with everything.


I wonder if it is possible to give power of attorney to a trio of people requiring at least two to agree and sign before any legal action can be done on behalf of the root person. Is that even a thing? can you protect yourself from the one scumbag family member you accidentally trusted by providing oversight by a couple others. Especially not knowing which one is the greedy SOB?
 
2013-05-15 04:40:23 PM

Dixon Cider: huckleberg: Crewmannumber6: Have fun sucking cocks in hell, coont.

again, we don't know ... maybe he diddled her and now he's gettin' what's comin' ...

You have a sick old man and his daughter fetish, huh?


Seriously, it's like, go ahead and say it again a few more times, won't make it any more true dude.

/Show us on the doll where he touched you, huckleberg
 
2013-05-15 04:41:27 PM

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.



Yeah, but did you ask her to sign over the deeds to the house?
I get your point and it's a wholly justified one but what would necessitate signing away your home but still live there after 4 years? And the silence of it all until it was discovered pretty much makes me think: What a coont.


 
2013-05-15 04:41:39 PM
That's strange it seems that it is a revenge thing stemming from  "visitation rights" for Potter's autistic other child Joe?  Joe would have to be 70 so I don't understand this at all.

http://www.nbc4i.com/story/22027812/wwii-veteran-about-to-be-evicted -b y-daughter-son-in-law

NBC4 asked Potter's son-in-law and daughter about evicting her father.
"Actually, I can tell you an awful lot, simply because I'm the one who is doing it," said Dean Cottrill.
Janis Cottrill is married to Dean, and is Potter's daughter. They claim the family feud is over visitation rights for Potter's other child, who has Autism.
"For him to stay in that home, it is real simple. Leave Joe alone and stop the lawsuits," said Dean.
He said his wife Janis is upset over the feud and cries many nights.
 
2013-05-15 04:41:52 PM

shArkh: We went out of our way to avoid this. Before grandad passed on, he signed his half of the house over to the daughter, rather than having it go to grandma. She was p. batshiat evil at that point. I mean beating the dying man kind of farked up. After he died & she found out, we were the scum of the earth, because the silly cow couldn't understand that if a nurse or physician declared her senile (as they are wont to do) revenue claims the house and stuff her in a home early. We -saved- the home, got her in-house care on his will proceeds, but all the family in that neck of the woods thinks we're dirt for "pulling a fast one" :|

Either way, this biatch sounds like a right skank-ho, as aforementioned.


Yeah, that's the really shiatty part.  The smart thing to do is sit down a doctor and a lawyer early on.  Have the doctor outline the projected medical needs of the person and then have the lawyer work out some kind of agreement about assets.  The lawyer will normally know how to handle the assets in such a way that the person gets access to the best benefits, because if you just leave assets sitting around the government will require you to use those assets to help cover care before they kick in.  Whereas as stuff goes into trusts or other things you can avoid such issues.

I'm glad my parents were willing to sit down with myself and my siblings and we worked out a living will for the worst case scenario and an agreed upon structure for asset transfer so no one got would feel screwed over.  It really sucks when you have family that doesn't understand it though and doesn't understand you're making these moves not as an internal power play but to head off the government saying "Sell this to cover medical care first."
 
2013-05-15 04:42:19 PM
I submitted this on 4/26.... blah blah blah

They have raised some $$$$$
 
2013-05-15 04:42:41 PM
Someone is in need of a good 4chaning...
 
2013-05-15 04:42:47 PM

tuna fingers: WhippingBoy: 56 years and he couldn't pay off his house?

He paid it off, people are raising money so he can buy it back.  Then the shiatty daughter gets that 125K.  Arsenic in her tea seems like the better solution here.


On the other hand, it could be a very, very clever scam to chisel $125k out of the poor, unsuspecting internet, $125k which he and his daughter will spend on hookers and funerals.
 
2013-05-15 04:43:15 PM

KJUW89: James!: I'd have to know more about the family before I can judge the daughter.  She may have a perfectly valid reason to kick the old coot to the curb.

I was thinking this too, but the fact that she is denying to make any comment makes me wonder...


I wouldn't want my personal family troubles to get caught in a media shiat storm either. She may be awful, I just don't know enough about it to say.

Personally, my girlfriend has had a deal of trouble with her mother who can't be bothered to pay her rent but hands out money to every shady character in her complex.  She had to get power of attorney to just make sure mom could stay in her apartment but sometimes mom forgets and raises hell.

Once the mind goes you have to take drastic measures to protect your loved ones sometimes.
 
2013-05-15 04:44:14 PM

GalFriday: **NOTE TO ALL FARKERS** Never give your Power of Attorney for money and your Power of Attorney for health to the same person.


Make out a will.  A Living Will.  On video.  Use background music, flip charts, power point and good lighting.  Post 10 copies on 10 different servers.  Lock the dough down like a dog's jaws on a roast.  Rest.
 
2013-05-15 04:44:29 PM

GungFu: ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


Yeah, but did you ask her to sign over the deeds to the house?
I get your point and it's a wholly justified one but what would necessitate signing away your home but still live there after 4 years? And the silence of it all until it was discovered pretty much makes me think: What a coont.


Her grandson had her declared incompetent and then the two of us shared power of attorney since her living situation was a clusterfark as were her finances.  I moved her back to Michigan and get into assisted living while her grandson sold the home and did what we could to go after the guys who scammed her.  Neither of us could visit her without 10 minutes of cursing after that.
 
2013-05-15 04:45:15 PM
The best idea is to TALK to your parents before they get too old and demented, and draw up a plan of action.  This includes placing the family holdings (estate, whatever) into an irrevokable trust.  This will help protect them and the estate from scammers.

Another thing to do is to talk to them about dividing the estate themselves (on paper), rather than the children fighting over it after they're gone.

But it's tough...this must be done while they are still young enough to think things through.  Dementia can set in rather quickly, and before you know it your parents can easily forget that they have bank accounts and other assets.

/CSB (or not so CSB)

This happened in my family....my mom handled all the finances for the family holdings, and when she became demented she couldn't remember anything.  She died first, leaving dad in pretty bad shape (Parkinson's).  When we tried to get him to finish putting all the assets into the trust, he started raving about how my brother, sister and I would kick him out of the house once we had control.  We're still trying to sort out the mess.
 
2013-05-15 04:45:23 PM

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.


I dunno, watching the video, he seems coherent,  just old. I'm thinking he'd be fine in his house with some living assistance, someone to wash the dishes and do the laundry, stuff like that. I'm on the "daughter is a biatch" team.
 
2013-05-15 04:45:30 PM

kbronsito: ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.  We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming.  She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place.  The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.

If he's 91, his daughter is probably also old enough to be senile herself.

if she is just being an evil greedy biatch, I hope her kids learn from her example and avenge grandpa by behaving in exactly the same way.


Looks like another baby boomer out to fark over everyone else.
 
2013-05-15 04:47:02 PM
This is a scam of the granddaughter's doing.

The story doesn't even make sense. Power of attorney...okay, right...then a complete fog of logic. On the other hand, the story was written by a journalist, the stupidest people in the world after climatologists.
 
2013-05-15 04:47:26 PM

gadian: GalFriday: I don't care what excuse she uses, there is no reason for this. NO REASON AT ALL.

We don't know that.  I can think of a few.


Maybe the daughter has a hot, young boytoy with a drug or gambling addiction that she needs to fix.
 
2013-05-15 04:47:53 PM

oh_please: ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him.

I dunno, watching the video, he seems coherent,  just old. I'm thinking he'd be fine in his house with some living assistance, someone to wash the dishes and do the laundry, stuff like that. I'm on the "daughter is a biatch" team.


You know what happens when you try to diagnose mental condition through video?  That's right, you don't get to be Senate Majority leader any more.
 
2013-05-15 04:48:26 PM

James!: Once the mind goes you have to take drastic measures to protect your loved ones sometimes.


Normally I wouldn't interject much opinion on family matters I have no insight on, but the daughter declining to speak to the media, when I can't see how doing so would affect the eviction case whatsoever, is...interesting.
 
2013-05-15 04:48:38 PM
My buddy says everyone needs one daughter because, when you get old, she'll take care of you. Your sons would otherwise let you die of exposure, malnutrition and wallowing in your own filth.

Maybe he's wrong.
 
2013-05-15 04:48:40 PM
Hey just like the Bombing a month ago, let's all jump to conclusions!

ha-ha-guy: Well this could either be a heartless move by a scumbag child or a logical move to put a senile parent in a facility that can actually care for him. We pretty much had to drag my great aunt out her house kicking and screaming. She was a 10 hour drive from the nearest family, had fallen for three of those "reseal your driveway scams", had fallen multiple times in the shower, and was living off delivery from the local pizza place. The thing that provoked her forcible removal was the pizza place worried when she didn't call for two days, a driver stopped by, and found her in the bathroom where she had fallen.

She went to her grave ranting how we stole her house from her and such.


Oh wait, ha-ha-guy, what are you doing here!!!??!?!

We clearly do not have the full story but let's all grab our pickforks just in case!
 
2013-05-15 04:49:02 PM

skozlaw: As somebody who has dealt with senility in family members, I'm going to withhold judgement on this until I'm certain I know the whole story.

My grandmother had to be put in a home and that meant basically kicking her out of her house. She was too far away from family to be cared for and she was in the hospital four times in a year for heart problems. It was awful, she resented us to her grave, but there was little other choice.


You could have respected your grandmothers wishes and let her keep her own home and a little shred of dignity even if it did cost her two or three years of life that were pretty much bound to be shiat anyway. Seems like a choice to me.
 
2013-05-15 04:49:49 PM
He should have dropped the house on her and taken her shoes....
 
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