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2013-05-15 04:14:22 PM

Infernalist: ProfessorOhki: Fallout Boy: It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.

Since white folks are a minority in Hawaii (24.7%), you wouldn't have trouble with that state having white-only scholarships, I assume?

Besides, given the rate at which the average American is likely to be multi-racial, anything race-based is pretty ridiculous. Or do you think the scholarships should do a priority queue based on how not-white you are? The girl who's 7/8ths white gets priority over the girl who's half white? Going to go all out with DNA tests or should they just send in a photo for you to judge?

It bears repeating that there are whole states in the Union where the white population tops 90%.


I should have worded that as "increase in the rate at which."
 
2013-05-15 04:14:41 PM

JohnnyRebel88: F it.  If they are allowed to have "minority" scholarships, they should be allowed to have a "whites only" one.  May I remind you that this is a free country, and since Columbia is a private institution, they should be to do whatever they want.

However, the most most logical act would not give aide to people because of the color of their skin, gender, religious beliefs nor sexual orientation, it should be given to a person with the best vision for a better tomorrow and actually deserve the grant or scholarship.


Truly, spoken like someone living in an ideal world.

Sadly, we don't live in an ideal world.  We live in a world where people get rejected for things that they've earned/deserve because of their skin/ethnicity/religion/sex.

So, until we achieve that ideal world, we have to somehow make up for the assholes in the system who don't like treating people equally.

If you want to blame someone, blame Bob in Human Relations who won't hire a black man/woman.
 
2013-05-15 04:15:25 PM
Joe Blowme:

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I like your style. Accuse me of racism, and when I ask you to justify that accusation, hit me with a Welcome to Fark meme.

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2013-05-15 04:15:35 PM

SirEattonHogg: Yeah, America is so unequal to white folks what with all those minority companies and executives who refuse to hire white people and those restricted social clubs and the white seating in the back of the bus.


So, you've identified certain groups who are not allowed to advocate for equality or call out injustice when they see it, because of the color of their skin. That says a lot about you.
 
2013-05-15 04:16:27 PM
FTA: "We do not feel we are justified in depriving some of our students of the benefits of restricted grants simply because they are not available to everyone," he said, according to the Post.


So we should abolish this then, right?

multivu.prnewswire.com
 
2013-05-15 04:16:46 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Donnchadha: dj_bigbird: Does Columbia have scholarships for African-American students? Hispanic?

That's not "discriminating based on race", that's "empowering a minority".

Which is a stupid argument... Pendulums are supposed to swing both ways.  A minority group should have no right to complain about whitey getting his own scholarship if they get to have one for their particular group.


It will be ok for whitey to have his own scholarship in 2050 when whitey is the minority?
 
2013-05-15 04:18:09 PM

I Browse: BigNumber12:


As long as equality is being actively eroded, you get to put up with our "whining." Deal with it the same way you already seem to deal with non-white "whining" about equality.

How about no whining at all...from anyone? Too much to ask?



Good luck with that :-)
 
2013-05-15 04:19:07 PM

xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?

It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.

I have some GREAT news for you!  I just did a highly scientific study of pulling up Google, entering the phrase "percent women in ______  school " and quick ...


Yes. Change them to "Single Parent"- talk about the least support system on any effing campus. Non Trad support, MY ASS.
 
2013-05-15 04:19:15 PM
Great. Now white people are going to have to start pretending they're black so they can get a scholarship.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-15 04:19:43 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Representative of the unwashed masses: Donnchadha: dj_bigbird: Does Columbia have scholarships for African-American students? Hispanic?

That's not "discriminating based on race", that's "empowering a minority".

Which is a stupid argument... Pendulums are supposed to swing both ways.  A minority group should have no right to complain about whitey getting his own scholarship if they get to have one for their particular group.

It will be ok for whitey to have his own scholarship in 2050 when whitey is the minority?


If he were a minority, then sure.

But, he won't be.  Despite the hysterical fears of a few, the Caucasian population in this country will 'never' be a minority.

Now, at some point, the sum 'total' of all minorities in this country, COMBINED, will be more than the Caucasian population, but that's not the same as being a minority.
 
2013-05-15 04:20:38 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I've always wanted to open a restaurant named "Whites Only", and have everything inside be white. Walls, table cloths, etc.

Then on opening night I'd only invite non-whites.

I think I planned on masturbating on something too, it was an art project. You have to masturbate or it's not art.


That's pretty funny.

JesseL: I wonder how it would have played out if a black student applied for a "whites only" scholarship (or vice versa)?


I'm sure this has been covered in the thread, but:

www.annalsofamericus.com
Is intrigued by your idea and would like to subs yadda yadda
 
2013-05-15 04:20:42 PM

Mattyb710: Magorn: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country,  Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?

I've been trying to stay out of this thread, but your post is forcing me to reply.

Are you actually making that argument that because a certain group of people have been discriminated against in the past that it is acceptable for them to discriminate against others now?


YES, and I can't understand why you would think otherwise.  Your argument could be re-phrased as "are you actually making the argument that because Ariel Castro, forcibly imprisoned 3 women for 20 years that he should now be forcibly imprisoned for the rest of his life?"   The answer, of course, is yes.  Justice requires it.   An important part of equal treatment under the law  is that there be a repairative remedy when it is found to have been violated.   You don't get to go "yeah that was wrong, my bad, I'll just stop doing that. So we're cool now, right?"  You actually have to try to fix the thing you did wrong, and that might mean giving AD-vantages to those you previously DIS-advantaged.
 
2013-05-15 04:21:35 PM
I'm going to create a scholarship for Dungeons and Dragons playing fans of Gabriel-era Genesis who like to drink lots of milk.
 
2013-05-15 04:22:10 PM

Rapmaster2000: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: To be fair, whites are a minority in Colombia.

Wrong.  Those space shuttles were filled with white people.


Well yeah, but they're black now...
 
2013-05-15 04:22:57 PM

Joe Blowme: Rapmaster2000: Infernalist: jshine: Magorn: I'll just quote LBJ on this one: "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

...so, because the Irish were once discriminated against, we need to maintain pro-Irish affirmative action policies indefinitely?

Are Irish people generally discriminated against in society on the same scale as Hispanics and African Americans?

If so, then...yeah, get those pro-Irish statutes out there and enforced.

If not, then....lol

THIS!  We call them white now!

Back before this PC POLICE malarkey, Irishmen weren't considered on par with genteel men due to their inferior Irish stock.

They even pretend that Italians and Slavs are white now.  It makes me sick!  What's next?  Are we to pretend that New Mexicans are white?

Well, if the "out of africa" theory proves true, we are all africans


Nonsense!  God placed all races in their proper location.  Ask yourself this?  How could the races have "evolved" to look they way they do, when the world is only 6000 years old?  Have you seen a Chinaman evolve to be white because he lives in a white territory like Montana?  Have you, sir?

No, you have not.  I'd like to hear the Miscengenators and Darwinists answer that one!
 
2013-05-15 04:22:58 PM
Eh, I can't find a real problem with scholarships for whites only considering how many asinine scholarships with insane requirements like height, weight, left handedness, race, gender, sexual preference, hobbies locality, etc. etc. etc.  Land of the free, home of people just throwing money away on students for arbitrary reasons other than grades and need.
 
2013-05-15 04:23:24 PM

WhippingBoy: I'm going to create a scholarship for Dungeons and Dragons playing fans of Gabriel-era Genesis who like to drink lots of milk.


...chocolate milk?
 
2013-05-15 04:23:48 PM

eraser8: tlars699: the gov't seems to think that white is a race & different ethnicity than "Hispanic"/Latin American people.

White is a race.  Hispanic is an ethnicity that can be of any race.  You can be a white Hispanic, a black Hispanic, an Asian Hispanic and so forth.  Seriously.  On any government form, race and ethnicity are going to be two separate questions.  Example:

[www.pewhispanic.org image 276x367]


Okay, granted. Now, the question remains that the poster I replied to saying, White is not an ethnicity, and does not deserve their own scholarships- does this person still have a point? If they do, then why not based on race? Poor people abound in the white community; could we have a scholarship that caters to them specifically?
 
2013-05-15 04:24:26 PM

TheGregiss: You know what. This bothers me. You would think scholarships shouldbbe doled out on academic merit, not the color of ones skin.

"B buh muh oppressed races."

Oh blow me, Im of Irish descent, they were enslaved and kicked around pretty much forever but we don't have people of irish heritage only scholarships. Cause that would be white, and that's apparently bad.

Goddamn these people for making me even share a centimeters worth of ideological similarity to some stormfront asshat.


Ever consider that maybe you're more racist then you'd like to admit?

CSB:
Former co-worker once told me about a girl from London he dated back in the 60's.
"Oh Humberto, I really think it's quite barbaric how you Yanks treat the Blacks here in the States.  It's just simply atrocious."
"You won't get any argument out of me on that, but what about how the Irish have been treated by the British?
"Oh, you don't understand, Humberto.  The Irish are stupid."
 
2013-05-15 04:24:26 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Wendy's Chili: Do they even have black people in Iowa?

A hell of a lot more than in Idaho.


Dunno...we had them up in Moscow, ID, when I was growing up.

Had to. That football ain't gonna run itself...

/Vandals!
 
2013-05-15 04:25:17 PM
TO THERED-HEADEDLEAGUE:
On account of the bequest of the late Ezekiah Hopkins, of Lebanon, Pennsylvania, U. S. A., there is now another vacancy open which entitles a member of the League to a salary of £4 a week for purely nominal services. All red-headed men who are sound in body and mind, and above the age of twenty-one years, are eligible. Apply in person on Monday, at eleven o'clock, to Duncan Ross, at the offices of the League, 7 Pope's Court, Fleet Street.
 
2013-05-15 04:25:49 PM

tlars699: eraser8: tlars699: the gov't seems to think that white is a race & different ethnicity than "Hispanic"/Latin American people.

White is a race.  Hispanic is an ethnicity that can be of any race.  You can be a white Hispanic, a black Hispanic, an Asian Hispanic and so forth.  Seriously.  On any government form, race and ethnicity are going to be two separate questions.  Example:

[www.pewhispanic.org image 276x367]

Okay, granted. Now, the question remains that the poster I replied to saying, White is not an ethnicity, and does not deserve their own scholarships- does this person still have a point? If they do, then why not based on race? Poor people abound in the white community; could we have a scholarship that caters to them specifically?


Sure, you can label it based on their region of origin.

Like, from my perspective, you could have a Scholarship that could only be given to someone from the Piney Woods region of East Texas.  Mostly white(not completely), very poor on average, and they could use a hand in getting their kids into college.

Targeting poor communities for scholarships is a well-established tradition, you know.
 
2013-05-15 04:25:56 PM

randomjsa: I agree.

Now do away with all scholarships based on race or gender. While you're at it, do away with all student organizations based around race or gender. I'll even go whole hog and say do away with all majors that are centered around race or gender studies.


Cool can we get rid of scholarships based on sports too and make it completely academic based and give admittance only based on merit not on ability to pay or if you parents donated money or went to the school?
 
2013-05-15 04:25:59 PM

Infernalist: It bears repeating that there are whole states in the Union where the white population tops 90%.


You know, and with an active advertising campaign, Maine might be able to convince more black people to move there. They could even double their black population. That way Steve could have a friend!
 
2013-05-15 04:26:45 PM

WhippingBoy: TO THERED-HEADEDLEAGUE:
On account of the bequest of the late Ezekiah Hopkins, of Lebanon, Pennsylvania, U. S. A., there is now another vacancy open which entitles a member of the League to a salary of £4 a week for purely nominal services. All red-headed men who are sound in body and mind, and above the age of twenty-one years, are eligible. Apply in person on Monday, at eleven o'clock, to Duncan Ross, at the offices of the League, 7 Pope's Court, Fleet Street.


That shop owner was the most naive idiot of all time.
 
2013-05-15 04:28:44 PM

jshine: Magorn: I'll just quote LBJ on this one: "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

...so, because the Irish were once discriminated against, we need to maintain pro-Irish affirmative action policies indefinitely?


No, because as i said in detail above, the Irish quickly became a majority rather than a minority, and because they weren't systemically disenfranchised they were able to use that status to right those wrongs on thier own (Tammany Hall, the ranks of the NYPD, NYFD, CPD and FD, the Boston PD and FD etc etc provided them with more than enough "affirmative action" to redress any past slights)   Same thing with blacks: Once we reach a point where they've been NOT discriminated against legally for as long as they WERE discriminated against legally, say 150-200 years,  I'm all good with ending every affirmative action program of any kind.
 
2013-05-15 04:29:13 PM

Infernalist: Now, at some point, the sum 'total' of all minorities in this country, COMBINED, will be more than the Caucasian population, but that's not the same as being a minority.


It is, but don't let that stop you.

\The opposite of minority is majority, not plurality.
 
2013-05-15 04:29:24 PM

I Browse: Joe Blowme:

[www.inquisitr.com image 500x375]

I like your style. Accuse me of racism, and when I ask you to justify that accusation, hit me with a Welcome to Fark meme.


It's wrong that I searched up the thread and hoped you were a racist, so I could slam you for it.  When I discovered you were just tired of the privileged whining about how there aren't systems in place to address the societal imbalances that don't exist against them.

It was hardly an edgy position you were taking, and you still got hit with the "how dare you complain about my complaints" type bullshiat that just confirms how incredibly blind to privilege a lot of people are.
 
2013-05-15 04:29:59 PM

Magorn: You actually have to try to fix the thing you did wrong, and that might mean giving AD-vantages to those you previously DIS-advantaged.


No one disagrees with that.  What we disagree is how long those advantages ought to last.  When your family goes back multiple generations more than the families that you're currently demanding the advantage from, the newer arrivals aren't generally eager to continue paying for the crimes of people who just happened to share their skin tones, especially if you're descended from one of the many groups that were treated as bad or worse.

//Mix of slavic and Irish, personally, and only four generations from immigrants
///Father paid his way through college and medical school shoveling coal in an iron forge and with my mom's job as a grocery clerk
 
2013-05-15 04:30:06 PM

mike_the_engineer: So we should abolish this then, right?


You don't actually have to be black to get one of their scholarships.
 
2013-05-15 04:31:07 PM

This text is now purple: Infernalist: Now, at some point, the sum 'total' of all minorities in this country, COMBINED, will be more than the Caucasian population, but that's not the same as being a minority.

It is, but don't let that stop you.

\The opposite of minority is majority, not plurality.


So, by your reasoning, once the non-white population is outnumbers the white population, then the white population is a minority.

And if that's true, then in that America where the white population is a minority race, what's the Majority race?
 
2013-05-15 04:32:39 PM

eraser8: mike_the_engineer: So we should abolish this then, right?

You don't actually have to be black to get one of their scholarships.


That said, white south-africans who move to the US applying for "african-american" scholarships leads to some really confused expressions.
 
2013-05-15 04:33:06 PM
 Meh, I've come  across enough grants that I didn't qualify for based on me being  white (first two pages of entries on CC website) that I'm kinda suprised this one exsist, And that anyone has their panties  in a wad over it.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-05-15 04:33:57 PM
Complaining about political correctness = the white man's victim card.
 
2013-05-15 04:34:15 PM

Infernalist: This text is now purple: Infernalist: Now, at some point, the sum 'total' of all minorities in this country, COMBINED, will be more than the Caucasian population, but that's not the same as being a minority.

It is, but don't let that stop you.

\The opposite of minority is majority, not plurality.

So, by your reasoning, once the non-white population is outnumbers the white population, then the white population is a minority.

And if that's true, then in that America where the white population is a minority race, what's the Majority race?


There is none.

Noun majority (plural majorities): More than half (50%) of some group

/Welcome to English
//Please enjoy your stay
 
2013-05-15 04:35:16 PM

Latinwolf: Complaining about political correctness = the white man's victim card.


Kill all the white man
 
2013-05-15 04:36:25 PM
BigNumber12  Sir Eatton HoggYeah, America is so unequal to white folks what with all those minority companies and executives who refuse to hire white people and those restricted social clubs and the white seating in the back of the bus.

So, you've identified certain groups who are not allowed to advocate for equality or call out injustice when they see it, because of the color of their skin. That says a lot about you.


The idea that an elimination of a race-based scholarship offered by the respected university (as opposed to a private scholarship which might be acceptable) is some kind of injustice for whites is nonsense.

Any other issues or complaints you wish to note that are so unfair to whites?  The existence of BET perhaps?
 
2013-05-15 04:36:56 PM

The Third Man: endmile: The Third Man: I know of a Catholic-run university where one of their alumni wanted to give a big scholarship which would only be available to non-Catholic students.  I'm sure that was fun to explain to the university president (who was, of course, a priest).  Apparently they were able to talk the alumnus out of that stipulation.

Along the lines of this scholarship...you know, the Rhodes Scholarship was once only available to white students, as well.  Cecil Rhodes was racist even by the fairly racist standards of his time and social class.

Calling Cecil Rhodes racist is like saying Hitler kind of disliked Jewish people.

True, but he had a better mustache, so that's got to count for something.  And I suppose he wasn't actively trying to kill them all, just wasn't particularly upset if they died in horrible ways.

/But you wonder:  how would a Hitler Scholarship be received?
//Also:  Rhodes is one of the few people you can compare to Hitler without Godwining the thread


He wasn't racist, he just hated his parents for naming him Cecil.
 
2013-05-15 04:37:08 PM
ikanreed:

It's wrong that I searched up the thread and hoped you were a racist, so I could slam you for it.  When I discovered you were just tired of the privileged whining about how there aren't systems in place to address the societal imbalances that don't exist against them.

It was hardly an edgy position you were taking, and you still got hit with the "how dare you complain about my complaints" type bullshiat that just confirms how incredibly blind to privilege a lot of people are.



Thank you. You stated my position a lot more eloquently than I did.
 
2013-05-15 04:37:39 PM

Infernalist: tlars699: eraser8: tlars699: the gov't seems to think that white is a race & different ethnicity than "Hispanic"/Latin American people.

White is a race.  Hispanic is an ethnicity that can be of any race.  You can be a white Hispanic, a black Hispanic, an Asian Hispanic and so forth.  Seriously.  On any government form, race and ethnicity are going to be two separate questions.  Example:

[www.pewhispanic.org image 276x367]

Okay, granted. Now, the question remains that the poster I replied to saying, White is not an ethnicity, and does not deserve their own scholarships- does this person still have a point? If they do, then why not based on race? Poor people abound in the white community; could we have a scholarship that caters to them specifically?

Sure, you can label it based on their region of origin.

Like, from my perspective, you could have a Scholarship that could only be given to someone from the Piney Woods region of East Texas.  Mostly white(not completely), very poor on average, and they could use a hand in getting their kids into college.

Targeting poor communities for scholarships is a well-established tradition, you know.


Huh. I did not know. That's pretty cool actually, as then *anyone* from that community could go to school, provided they lived in the area and fulfilled grade requirements.
 
2013-05-15 04:37:46 PM
I'd take people who get worked up in knot about "reverse racism" a lot more seriously if they ever had anything to say about...you know, the problem with racism as it actually exists in the US.

/if you seriously don't understand what's wrong with a "whites only" anything, you're a moral retard.
 
2013-05-15 04:38:01 PM

SirEattonHogg: Gosh, I didn't realize that America was such an unfair country for whites men.

Thank de lawd for Fark.com


FTFY.
 
2013-05-15 04:38:04 PM

tlars699: Poor people abound in the white community; could we have a scholarship that caters to them specifically?


Hell, you could have a scholarship that caters to  rich white people.  There'd be nothing illegal about it.  The problem in this case isn't that the scholarship is exclusively for white students; the problem is that Columbia can't administer the scholarship under the conditions set forth in the grant.  That is, the University itself can't discriminate based on race.  And, yes, that would extend to scholarships for blacks or Hispanics.

Outside groups are perfectly free to set up scholarships for Columbia students that are racially restrictive.  And, that includes scholarships that are exclusively for whites.
 
2013-05-15 04:38:34 PM

ProfessorOhki: Infernalist: This text is now purple: Infernalist: Now, at some point, the sum 'total' of all minorities in this country, COMBINED, will be more than the Caucasian population, but that's not the same as being a minority.

It is, but don't let that stop you.

\The opposite of minority is majority, not plurality.

So, by your reasoning, once the non-white population is outnumbers the white population, then the white population is a minority.

And if that's true, then in that America where the white population is a minority race, what's the Majority race?

There is none.

Noun majority (plural majorities): More than half (50%) of some group

/Welcome to English
//Please enjoy your stay


But, the white population 'is' the majority race in this country today.  Does that change when it's no longer the majority race?
 
2013-05-15 04:38:46 PM

tlars699: Yes. Change them to "Single Parent"- talk about the least support system on any effing campus. Non Trad support, MY ASS.


That single parent thing is, with a few exception, largely preventable on an individual level and even if it is not there is no reason for a special support system for them.  They are a big enough pain in the ass in the military do we need to cater to them in the private sector to.
 
2013-05-15 04:39:37 PM

tlars699: Now, I've been told that any person of non-caucasoid descent is currently a minority, and that in a few decades the caucasoids will end up being the minority.

Does this mean that all the "minority" scholarships will then be given to the true minority? Or will they be rewritten?


Bullsh*t. "Less than 50% of the population" does not mean "minority", unless what you are counting are "white people" and "non-white people".

Non-Hispanic whites are 63.7% of the U.S. population as of 2010. Get back to me when that number drops to something less than either blacks, asians, hispanics or any other non-white groups. When the percentages of any one of those groups is greater than non-hispanic whites, you might have a case for being a "minority". As of today it's the other way around.

It will be a long time before white people can be considered any type of "minority", if ever.
 
2013-05-15 04:39:50 PM

I Browse: Black guy here. Keep the damn scholarship. In fact...let white people have "whites only" restaurants, country clubs, proms, churches, and whatever else they want. I honestly don't care.

But please, for the love of God, stop with the "B-b-but...it's okay for BLACKS! And LATINOS! And ASIANS! HARUMPH! And oh yeah, why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"

I can't take it anymore. If I have to listen to one more white person whine about reverse racism and double standards and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP and UNCF, etc...my ears will start bleeding.


Keep it up men! We've got em on the ropes!
 
2013-05-15 04:41:03 PM
First we allow women in 1983. Now minorities can get financial aid?!

Alma Mater's really gone to shiat
 
2013-05-15 04:41:37 PM

Magorn: lennavan: Magorn: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country,  Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?

Fair enough, all black college kids applying for scholarships who had to sit at the back of the bus, or use the back door at a lunch counter, or who was deprived the right to vote should get a scholarship.  Everyone else should be on equal footing.  Deal?

I'll just quote LBJ on this one:  "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

Counter-offer: once minorities have been free of institutionalized and legal discrimination for a full 200 years (half the time they experienced it)  We'll call it even and ban ANY discrimination on the bais of Race, Mkay?

Is it really so impossble to understand that if your great-granparents were ...


How do you know how I, or anyone started out in life?  If my great great great grandfather was the biggest slave owner in Virginia, and my great grandfather was a World War 1 war profiteer who was grand wizard of the KKK, and my grandfather invested his inheritance in stocks that skyrocketed while personally discriminating whenever possible, and my father knocked up his high school girlfriend who secretly gave me up to an orphanage, then what farking advantage do I have?  None of the supposed benefits and advantages that my racist ancestors accrued to me  Yet racial preferences would potentially put a black kid whose father is a doctor ahead of me in line for a spot in college.  If we are helping the disadvantaged, shouldn't we look at their current state in life rather than the average state of their "race"?  A white kid raised in poverty in a single parent household is no better off than a black kid raised in poverty in a single parent household.
 
2013-05-15 04:42:27 PM

rewind2846: tlars699: Now, I've been told that any person of non-caucasoid descent is currently a minority, and that in a few decades the caucasoids will end up being the minority.

Does this mean that all the "minority" scholarships will then be given to the true minority? Or will they be rewritten?

Bullsh*t. "Less than 50% of the population" does not mean "minority", unless what you are counting are "white people" and "non-white people".

Non-Hispanic whites are 63.7% of the U.S. population as of 2010. Get back to me when that number drops to something less than either blacks, asians, hispanics or any other non-white groups. When the percentages of any one of those groups is greater than non-hispanic whites, you might have a case for being a "minority". As of today it's the other way around.

It will be a long time before white people can be considered any type of "minority", if ever.


To some people, a world where the non-caucasian population is larger than the caucasian population is a world where white people are a minority.
 
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