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2013-05-15 03:53:16 PM  
Well I, for one, am glad that 'someone' has taken the time to offer up a whites-only scholarship.

God knows, those folk need all the help they can get in getting into college.
 
2013-05-15 03:53:17 PM  

Corvus: Dear people with your panties in a bunch,

WHITE is not an ethnicity. There ARE scholarships for ethnicites that have white people:

Here is an example of one of Irish Americans:
http://www.scholarship-programs.net/irish-americans/

So shut up.


Two scholarships (now one, since Columbia is trying to give this one the axe) =/= the plethora of minority scholarships available to non-white students

Also, if "white" is not an ethnicity, then how is "black" an ethnicity?
 
2013-05-15 03:53:18 PM  
To be fair, whites are a minority in Colombia.
 
2013-05-15 03:53:21 PM  

BigNumber12: Representative of the unwashed masses: I was done school about 10 years ago.

You probably shouldn't have stopped after junior high. You might want to look into taking some night school classes.


api.ning.com
 
2013-05-15 03:53:35 PM  

tlars699: Fallout Boy: xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?

It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.

This is currently illegal, and easier to have evidence of poor treatment.

Work place practices are exploiting current loopholes, and forcing you to comply ...


I was not referring to systematic, institutionalized discrimination.
 
2013-05-15 03:53:52 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I've always wanted to open a restaurant named "Whites Only", and have everything inside be white. Walls, table cloths, etc.

Then on opening night I'd only invite non-whites.

I think I planned on masturbating on something too, it was an art project. You have to masturbate or it's not art.


What on Earth was Jackson Pollock doing on his canvases?.
 
2013-05-15 03:54:24 PM  
Joe Blowme:

FTFY

/you sound racist


Oh do I? What specifically did I write that sounded racist to you? And just so we're clear, I mean the dictionary definition of racism.
 
2013-05-15 03:54:53 PM  

I Browse: kvinesknows:

why do black people get to complain about white people demanding equality?


I'm not complaining. That's the point. You want your own stuff? Cool with me. Have at it.


I was promised bleeding ears.......
 
2013-05-15 03:55:30 PM  

randomjsa: I agree.

Now do away with all scholarships based on race or gender. While you're at it, do away with all student organizations based around race or gender. I'll even go whole hog and say do away with all majors that are centered around race or gender studies.


Throw in getting rid of racial profiling that disproportionately targets minorities, and you've got a deal.

Of course, you have to deal with the fact that you're restricting the freedom of people to set up gifts that are, by definition, restricted (that is, they're not public gifts -- kind of like the difference between a place of public accommodation and a private club).  If someone wants to set up a fund to defray the educational costs for albino Mexicans, why do you care?  The reason this scholarship has to be changed isn't that it was set up to benefit white students exclusively, it's that it's financed by a grant made to the University that the University has to administer.  And, they can't legally do that.  But, if an outside group wanted to set up a whites-only scholarship, that would be perfectly legal.
 
2013-05-15 03:55:35 PM  

lennavan: Magorn: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country,  Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?

Fair enough, all black college kids applying for scholarships who had to sit at the back of the bus, or use the back door at a lunch counter, or who was deprived the right to vote should get a scholarship.  Everyone else should be on equal footing.  Deal?


I'll just quote LBJ on this one:  "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

Counter-offer: once minorities have been free of institutionalized and legal discrimination for a full 200 years (half the time they experienced it)  We'll call it even and ban ANY discrimination on the bais of Race, Mkay?

Is it really so impossble to understand that if your great-granparents were property and had no assets to pass down to thier children, and your grandparents weren;t allowed enough schooling to be more than barely literate, adn your parents were denied access to the best jobs and professions and denied promotions and opportunities based on thier race that that might also affect YOU  and where you start out in life?
 
2013-05-15 03:56:05 PM  

MindStalker: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: How come Asians don't seem to have all these problems like blacks do? They came to this country and were abused and rose above it. Why are we still hearing about blacks? How much help do they need and how much longer will they "need" it?

Ugh. In general new immigrant blacks don't need help, the problem is poverty, and the biggest determination of poverty in this culture is race, though poor comes in all stripes, more and more aid is being shifted to income based rather than race. That said, the reasons for the rampant black poverty has a lot to do with intentionally policies from civil war till the 1980s on.


Bullshiat. It has everything to do with culture and how you are raised as a child. Just because you are poor does not give you a free pass to be a degenerate. It is not everyone else's fault that you are impoverished. Rampant "black poverty" has more to do with the fact they are a part of a culture where working and education are not respected, and the only thing to be respected is money and power. How you obtain those two things does not matter, it is all about the status. This is the polar opposite of the Asian culture which by and large respects work and education. Then you have the Hispanic culture which respects working, but not so much education. Call me a racist for stereotyping and generalizing, I don't care. THAT is the problem, not poverty. I will say that poverty provides additional challenges, but then so does coming from a background of wealth. For the most part, the kids that were born with a silver spoon in their mouths didn't turn out so well...
 
2013-05-15 03:56:18 PM  

I Browse: Black guy here. Keep the damn scholarship. In fact...let white people have "whites only" restaurants, country clubs, proms, churches, and whatever else they want. I honestly don't care.

But please, for the love of God, stop with the "B-b-but...it's okay for BLACKS! And LATINOS! And ASIANS! HARUMPH! And oh yeah, why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"

I can't take it anymore. If I have to listen to one more white person whine about reverse racism and double standards and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP and UNCF, etc...my ears will start bleeding.



As long as equality is being actively eroded, you get to put up with our "whining." Deal with it the same way you already seem to deal with non-white "whining" about equality.
 
2013-05-15 03:56:29 PM  

OgreMagi: vygramul: I'm not sure about those, but I know a white guy who got an NAACP scholarship.

Did they know he was white when they awarded him the scholarship?

/I'm pretty sure this was a (bad) movie


Yes. Apparently, they have to give out the money. It's one of those things you can do as a student: apply for all scholarships, and sometimes, you can get unexpected ones as a result.
 
2013-05-15 03:56:42 PM  

ImperialHazman: tlars699: OgreMagi: give me doughnuts: Magorn: yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country, Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?

Remember the thousands of Irish that were shipped over as slaves during the Colonial period?

I take it you have a limited knowlege of history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant


From your link:  Not all were sent willingly. Several instances of  kidnapping for transportation to the Americas are recorded and this falls more clearly into the bracket of "white slave". Whilst these white slaves were often indentured in the same way as their willing counterparts it is an important distinction to make. An illustrative example of such a kidnap story is that of (1730-1799).
n the 17th century, nearly two-thirds of settlers to the Americas from theBritish Isles came as indentured servants. Given the high death rate, many servants did not live to the end of their terms.


So like this?
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian -h ercules/the-irish-slave-trade-forgotten-white-slaves/


Yes? I know of them, and I agree- I quoted from the wikipedia article presented as an argument against the idea that there were Irish slaves in America.
 
2013-05-15 03:57:00 PM  

Donnchadha: dj_bigbird: Does Columbia have scholarships for African-American students? Hispanic?

That's not "discriminating based on race", that's "empowering a minority".


This(nert)
 
2013-05-15 03:57:14 PM  
You know what. This bothers me. You would think scholarships shouldbbe doled out on academic merit, not the color of ones skin.

"B buh muh oppressed races."

Oh blow me, Im of Irish descent, they were enslaved and kicked around pretty much forever but we don't have people of irish heritage only scholarships. Cause that would be white, and that's apparently bad.

Goddamn these people for making me even share a centimeters worth of ideological similarity to some stormfront asshat.
 
2013-05-15 03:57:41 PM  
I'll just quote LBJ on this one:  "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

Counter-offer: once minorities have been free of institutionalized and legal discrimination for a full 200 years (half the time they experienced it)  We'll call it even and ban ANY discrimination on the bais of Race, Mkay?


I like that LBJ quote.  It seems like something he'd say.

Secondly, we're still not free of institutionalized racism.
 
2013-05-15 03:57:52 PM  

Magorn: I'll just quote LBJ on this one: "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"


...so, because the Irish were once discriminated against, we need to maintain pro-Irish affirmative action policies indefinitely?
 
2013-05-15 03:58:09 PM  
Scholarships should apply to exactly what the person said they should apply to, otherwise you're subverting their charity with your own desires.

The money will still be going to people that need the help, it just so happens they're white.
Unless there's a "use this education to kill minorities" qualifier in the fine print, why should it matter?
 
2013-05-15 03:58:10 PM  
Gosh, I didn't realize that America was such an unfair country for whites.

Thank de lawd for Fark.com
 
2013-05-15 03:58:20 PM  

I Browse: Joe Blowme:

FTFY

/you sound racist

Oh do I? What specifically did I write that sounded racist to you? And just so we're clear, I mean the dictionary definition of racism.


www.inquisitr.com
 
2013-05-15 03:58:48 PM  

TheGregiss: You know what. This bothers me. You would think scholarships shouldbbe doled out on academic merit, not the color of ones skin.

"B buh muh oppressed races."

Oh blow me, Im of Irish descent, they were enslaved and kicked around pretty much forever but we don't have people of irish heritage only scholarships. Cause that would be white, and that's apparently bad.

Goddamn these people for making me even share a centimeters worth of ideological similarity to some stormfront asshat.


Umm....Just up thread is a guy talking about an Irish-only scholarship.  just an fyi.
 
2013-05-15 03:59:28 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Gosh, I didn't realize that America was such an unfair country for whites.

Thank de lawd for Fark.com


Have you tried being white lately? You should try it sometime, you might be in for a surprise.
 
2013-05-15 03:59:55 PM  

Corvus: Dear people with your panties in a bunch,

WHITE is not an ethnicity. There ARE scholarships for ethnicites that have white people:

Here is an example of one of Irish Americans:
http://www.scholarship-programs.net/irish-americans/

So shut up.


Funny: the gov't seems to think that white is a race & different ethnicity than "Hispanic"/Latin American people. 

Also, what about the mutts from all over Europe? Should they be able to apply to every single one of the scholarships, provided they have the genealogy mapped out?

Not that I disagree with your point, I just don't like the argument you presented supporting it.
 
2013-05-15 04:00:13 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: To be fair, whites are a minority in Colombia.


Wrong.  Those space shuttles were filled with white people.
 
2013-05-15 04:00:52 PM  

TheGregiss: Oh blow me, Im of Irish descent, they were enslaved and kicked around pretty much forever but we don't have people of irish heritage only scholarships.


You probably should've read the thread before posting:

http://www.scholarship-programs.net/irish-americans/
 
2013-05-15 04:01:28 PM  

Brick-House: Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?

Its called political correctness which is really farkin up this country.


"Political correctness" is code for "I'm a white man and I can't get everything I want anymore, nor can I act like an asshole like my father did because I have to be accountable".

It's not correct to be an asshole.
 
2013-05-15 04:01:46 PM  

Fallout Boy: xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?

It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.


I have some GREAT news for you!  I just did a highly scientific study of pulling up Google, entering the phrase "percent women in ______  school " and quickly substituted "law" "medical" and "journalism."  Looks like women are currently over represented in journalism school and roughly equally represented in medical and law school.  When I substituted simply "college" the numbers jumped even higher.  Apparently MEN are now underrepresented in US colleges and it may be time for us to start getting some of that exclusive, no womenz allowed, free money.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/fashion/07campus.html?pagewanted=a ll &_r=0

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/aug/18/women-dominate-j-school-enr ol lment/

Anyway, I think we can safely do away with these silly, "women only" scholarships.  Don't you?
 
2013-05-15 04:03:06 PM  

jshine: Magorn: I'll just quote LBJ on this one: "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

...so, because the Irish were once discriminated against, we need to maintain pro-Irish affirmative action policies indefinitely?


Are Irish people generally discriminated against in society on the same scale as Hispanics and African Americans?

If so, then...yeah, get those pro-Irish statutes out there and enforced.

If not, then....lol
 
2013-05-15 04:03:36 PM  

Infernalist: TheGregiss: You know what. This bothers me. You would think scholarships shouldbbe doled out on academic merit, not the color of ones skin.

"B buh muh oppressed races."

Oh blow me, Im of Irish descent, they were enslaved and kicked around pretty much forever but we don't have people of irish heritage only scholarships. Cause that would be white, and that's apparently bad.

Goddamn these people for making me even share a centimeters worth of ideological similarity to some stormfront asshat.

Umm....Just up thread is a guy talking about an Irish-only scholarship.  just an fyi.


Well hot damn. Lemme look at up. My point still kind of stands though. Scholarships based on race and not academic prowess (you should have to wrestle a bear with math) are stupid.
 
2013-05-15 04:03:46 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I've always wanted to open a restaurant named "Whites Only", and have everything inside be white. Walls, table cloths, etc.

Then on opening night I'd only invite non-whites.

I think I planned on masturbating on something too, it was an art project. You have to masturbate or it's not art.


This could be the hip new breakfast spot featuring egg white omelots. I want in on the ground floor.
 
2013-05-15 04:04:01 PM  

tlars699: the gov't seems to think that white is a race & different ethnicity than "Hispanic"/Latin American people.


White is a race.  Hispanic is an ethnicity that can be of any race.  You can be a white Hispanic, a black Hispanic, an Asian Hispanic and so forth.  Seriously.  On any government form, race and ethnicity are going to be two separate questions.  Example:

www.pewhispanic.org
 
2013-05-15 04:04:45 PM  

Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?


My guess is the reason it hasn't been given since 1997 is that they can't find anyone to admit from Iowa who meets the other requirements of "not seeking a useful degree" and "required to move back to Iowa" and "Oh by the way it only pays half".  So they just couldn't find that one white journalism student from Iowa who has a hankering for writing a weekly farm column but they still want to use the money for something.
 
2013-05-15 04:04:52 PM  
BigNumber12  As long as equality is being actively eroded, you get to put up with our "whining." Deal with it the same way you already seem to deal withnon-white"whining" about equality.


Yeah, America is so unequal to white folks what with all those minority companies and executives who refuse to hire white people and those restricted social clubs and the white seating in the back of the bus.

Me and the other Asian folks are laughing all the way to the bank about how we're sticking it to the round eyes.
 
2013-05-15 04:05:06 PM  

utah dude: dj_bigbird: Does Columbia have scholarships for African-American students? Hispanic?

a modern, diverse liberal would say: don't you get it dawg? that's not cool anymore. for even saying this i've already labeled you as a rich, white, racist and have made sure you and all your children will never get any scholarships/fellowships/admittance privileges. white is out. it's old, it's dead. it's tired. you're a racist for even being white and you owe non-whites for 100-200 years of economic discrimination. it's time to pay up.


I read an editorial on SFgate one time that said almost exactly that. Written by a youngish white guy. I wish I'd bookmarked it. Really sad to see people who've been brainwashed to hate and advocate so fervently against themselves and anyone who looks like them. I don't know of anything like it anywhere else in the world.
 
2013-05-15 04:05:56 PM  

rewind2846: Brick-House: Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?

Its called political correctness which is really farkin up this country.

"Political correctness" is code for "I'm a white man and I can't get everything I want anymore, nor can I act like an asshole like my father did because I have to be accountable".

It's not correct to be an asshole.


Contrary to popular belief, assholes come in all colors
 
2013-05-15 04:06:20 PM  

eraser8: tlars699: the gov't seems to think that white is a race & different ethnicity than "Hispanic"/Latin American people.

White is a race.  Hispanic is an ethnicity that can be of any race.  You can be a white Hispanic, a black Hispanic, an Asian Hispanic and so forth.  Seriously.  On any government form, race and ethnicity are going to be two separate questions.  Example:

[www.pewhispanic.org image 276x367]


Technically, Caucasian/European would work the same way if people care about it that much.  Instead of selecting White/Caucasian, you could put Irish European or French European or English European or whatever.
 
2013-05-15 04:07:25 PM  

Fallout Boy: It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.


Since white folks are a minority in Hawaii (24.7%), you wouldn't have trouble with that state having white-only scholarships, I assume?

Besides, given the rate at which the average American is likely to be multi-racial, anything race-based is pretty ridiculous. Or do you think the scholarships should do a priority queue based on how not-white you are? The girl who's 7/8ths white gets priority over the girl who's half white? Going to go all out with DNA tests or should they just send in a photo for you to judge?
 
2013-05-15 04:07:35 PM  

Joe Blowme: rewind2846: Brick-House: Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?

Its called political correctness which is really farkin up this country.

"Political correctness" is code for "I'm a white man and I can't get everything I want anymore, nor can I act like an asshole like my father did because I have to be accountable".

It's not correct to be an asshole.

Contrary to popular belief, assholes come in all colors


Until you add bleach into the equation.
 
2013-05-15 04:09:07 PM  
Judging by many of the comments in here my bleeding heart doesn't bleed enough for honkeys. Sorry I'm not "above" others who have been held back and continue to experience a lower quality of life being helped at the expense of those who perpetrate the offenses.If you want this stuff to disappear then do more to help bridge the gap and don't be afraid to address the issues of those within your own race. If not, just take your "logical consistency" and shove it because you're too lazy to deal with reality.
 
2013-05-15 04:09:23 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Fallout Boy: It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.

Since white folks are a minority in Hawaii (24.7%), you wouldn't have trouble with that state having white-only scholarships, I assume?

Besides, given the rate at which the average American is likely to be multi-racial, anything race-based is pretty ridiculous. Or do you think the scholarships should do a priority queue based on how not-white you are? The girl who's 7/8ths white gets priority over the girl who's half white? Going to go all out with DNA tests or should they just send in a photo for you to judge?


It bears repeating that there are whole states in the Union where the white population tops 90%.
 
2013-05-15 04:09:32 PM  

Infernalist: jshine: Magorn: I'll just quote LBJ on this one: "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

...so, because the Irish were once discriminated against, we need to maintain pro-Irish affirmative action policies indefinitely?

Are Irish people generally discriminated against in society on the same scale as Hispanics and African Americans?

If so, then...yeah, get those pro-Irish statutes out there and enforced.

If not, then....lol


THIS!  We call them white now!

Back before this PC POLICE malarkey, Irishmen weren't considered on par with genteel men due to their inferior Irish stock.

They even pretend that Italians and Slavs are white now.  It makes me sick!  What's next?  Are we to pretend that New Mexicans are white?
 
2013-05-15 04:09:59 PM  

Joe Blowme: rewind2846: Brick-House: Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?

Its called political correctness which is really farkin up this country.

"Political correctness" is code for "I'm a white man and I can't get everything I want anymore, nor can I act like an asshole like my father did because I have to be accountable".

It's not correct to be an asshole.

Contrary to popular belief, assholes come in all colors


i789.photobucket.com

Example A.
 
2013-05-15 04:10:57 PM  
F it.  If they are allowed to have "minority" scholarships, they should be allowed to have a "whites only" one.  May I remind you that this is a free country, and since Columbia is a private institution, they should be to do whatever they want.

However, the most most logical act would not give aide to people because of the color of their skin, gender, religious beliefs nor sexual orientation, it should be given to a person with the best vision for a better tomorrow and actually deserve the grant or scholarship.
 
2013-05-15 04:10:58 PM  
ITT: P.C. Nazis defending racism when it's against whites?
 
2013-05-15 04:11:19 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Fallout Boy: It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.

Since white folks are a minority in Hawaii (24.7%), you wouldn't have trouble with that state having white-only scholarships, I assume?

Besides, given the rate at which the average American is likely to be multi-racial, anything race-based is pretty ridiculous. Or do you think the scholarships should do a priority queue based on how not-white you are? The girl who's 7/8ths white gets priority over the girl who's half white? Going to go all out with DNA tests or should they just send in a photo for you to judge?


My buddy in school got a minority scholarship for being a white student at a predominantly black public college in the University of North Carolina school system.
 
2013-05-15 04:11:29 PM  
BigNumber12:


As long as equality is being actively eroded, you get to put up with our "whining." Deal with it the same way you already seem to deal with non-white "whining" about equality.

How about no whining at all...from anyone? Too much to ask?
 
2013-05-15 04:12:09 PM  

Fallout Boy: tlars699: Fallout Boy: 
Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?

It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.

Crap, I deleted your last post-quote. I see, and concur... Y'know on second thought, I would think that your argument would still stand, as far as inner city schools get crap for assistance until the neighborhood gets gentrified and more people can afford to pay property taxes where the school exists.

Regardless, I can't wait for the whole "I'm Black, he's White, and we all look like Native Americans, so who cares anymore?!" day. :)
That will be an awesome day.
 
2013-05-15 04:12:55 PM  

I Browse: BigNumber12:

As long as equality is being actively eroded, you get to put up with our "whining." Deal with it the same way you already seem to deal with non-white "whining" about equality.

How about no whining at all...from anyone? Too much to ask?



I could get behind that.  This whole topic is one big clusterfark.
 
2013-05-15 04:13:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Infernalist: jshine: Magorn: I'll just quote LBJ on this one: "If you make one contestant start running a race in leg irons and then suddenly remove them at the half-way point, you have not suddenly made the contest fair"

...so, because the Irish were once discriminated against, we need to maintain pro-Irish affirmative action policies indefinitely?

Are Irish people generally discriminated against in society on the same scale as Hispanics and African Americans?

If so, then...yeah, get those pro-Irish statutes out there and enforced.

If not, then....lol

THIS!  We call them white now!

Back before this PC POLICE malarkey, Irishmen weren't considered on par with genteel men due to their inferior Irish stock.

They even pretend that Italians and Slavs are white now.  It makes me sick!  What's next?  Are we to pretend that New Mexicans are white?


Well, if the "out of africa" theory proves true, we are all africans
 
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