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2013-05-15 03:33:10 PM  

xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?


It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.
 
2013-05-15 03:33:11 PM  
I congratulate my alma mater on trying to remedy the situation.

Columbia is about as diverse a school as you can possibly get. The area around campus is vibrant and multi-racial, in a relatively safe part of Manhattan. CU's community outreach programs are everywhere in NYC, they do a lot of good work. And, of course, they have some of the smartest minds in the world there, being Ivy League and all.

And there's the added bonus of being close to Barnard.
 
2013-05-15 03:33:17 PM  
Black guy here. Keep the damn scholarship. In fact...let white people have "whites only" restaurants, country clubs, proms, churches, and whatever else they want. I honestly don't care.

But please, for the love of God, stop with the "B-b-but...it's okay for BLACKS! And LATINOS! And ASIANS! HARUMPH! And oh yeah, why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"

I can't take it anymore. If I have to listen to one more white person whine about reverse racism and double standards and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP and UNCF, etc...my ears will start bleeding.
 
2013-05-15 03:33:17 PM  
Scholarships at the post secondary level that intend to alter demographics are ridiculous.  The issues that cause specific demographics to choose different lines of study happen much earlier in a child's life.  If you want to appreciably alter the demographics in particular lines of study the scholarship money would be better spent on initiatives to introduce underrepresented demographics to those fields of study are an earlier time.

As an example scholarships for women in engineering are quite common because women are underrepresented in engineering. Women are underrepresented because girls are not taught math and science as well as boys. There is a cultural bias against girls who excel at math and science. This bias either turns girls away or causes teachers to spend less time assisting them with difficult concepts.

If a young woman is deciding what to study in university she's not going to pick a subject that she has done poorly at (because of these factors) simply because it has a scholarship for women.  If that money had been spent educating her or in getting her interested in math and science she might decide to give it a go.
 
2013-05-15 03:33:50 PM  
That's it! I'm going to start a Miss Meatsack_01 beauty pageant. Non-meatsacks need not apply.
 
2013-05-15 03:34:12 PM  

Corvus: Elegy: Highroller48: Brick-House: Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?

Its called political correctness which is really farkin up this country.

That, and the whole "IT'S ILLEGAL" thing, which I'm sure had nothing at all to do with the decision to stop awarding it.

Double-fail.

It's legal to award minority students grants based on race, but illegal to distribute a grant specifically for whites based on their race?

I-I.... don't understand. Can you explain it to me?

Because it's to get underrepresented groups into colleges, which is why Asians don't get them either.

If whites were underrepresented then they should have scholarships. That's the logic to it.


Asian-American students don't have grants and scholarships available to them specifically based on their race?

That's news to me.

It's probably news to the APIASF as well.
 
2013-05-15 03:34:35 PM  
So, that means they're going to ban all the "blacks only" scholarships, all the "hispanics only" scholarships, etc., right? What? Hypocrisy is moral so long as it's LEFTIST hypocrisy? Never mind, then.
 
2013-05-15 03:35:34 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Back in 1920, there was only one black man in Iowa. Steve.

But Lydia C. Roberts didn't want to be rude and make an "Anyone but Steve" scholarship, so she had to go a little more vague/broad and go white's only.


marieclairvoyant.com
 
2013-05-15 03:36:23 PM  
How come Asians don't seem to have all these problems like blacks do? They came to this country and were abused and rose above it. Why are we still hearing about blacks? How much help do they need and how much longer will they "need" it?
 
2013-05-15 03:36:34 PM  

Elegy: Corvus: Elegy: Highroller48: Brick-House: Elegy: There was nothing wrong with this. Why did Columbia cave in to pressure?

Its called political correctness which is really farkin up this country.

That, and the whole "IT'S ILLEGAL" thing, which I'm sure had nothing at all to do with the decision to stop awarding it.

Double-fail.

It's legal to award minority students grants based on race, but illegal to distribute a grant specifically for whites based on their race?

I-I.... don't understand. Can you explain it to me?

Because it's to get underrepresented groups into colleges, which is why Asians don't get them either.

If whites were underrepresented then they should have scholarships. That's the logic to it.

Asian-American students don't have grants and scholarships available to them specifically based on their race?

That's news to me.

It's probably news to the APIASF as well.



And here are Irish-american scholorships:

http://www.scholarship-programs.net/irish-americans/
 
2013-05-15 03:37:06 PM  

vudukungfu: "Columbia University is now prohibited by law and University policy from discriminating on the basis of race."

Now that it's 2013, they mean.
Now that they've been caught.


Because they have ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER SCHOLARSHIPS handed out on race. Columbia doesn't have any "blacks only" scholarships, right? They do?

That's okay. Liberal hypocrisy is always moral.
 
2013-05-15 03:37:13 PM  

boarch: Lucky you, I paid my way in full even after making the dean's list twice. If I were a little less white... it would of been free.


You sound "aggie"
 
2013-05-15 03:37:21 PM  

jshine: Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts: Smeggy Smurf: Wendy's Chili: Do they even have black people in Iowa?

A hell of a lot more than in Idaho.


Sorry, but no. Iowa is 88.7% caucasian, and Idaho is only 84%.

Only Maine, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Vermont, and West Virginia are more white than Iowa.

You should see China.  That place is not even 1% Caucasian.  It's full of blacks.


Interestingly, Mrs. jshine is Chinese; my family is originally from Northern Europe (mostly German, some English & Polish), but if we hold our arms side-by-side and simply look at skin tone, she's slightly whiter than I am.


Ya but only until she is exposed to sunlight. The Korean GF is pretty white as well (skin tone) but an hour in the sun and she is dark mocha
 
2013-05-15 03:38:53 PM  

I Browse: Black guy here. Keep the damn scholarship. In fact...let white people have "whites only" restaurants, country clubs, proms, churches, and whatever else they want. I honestly don't care.

But please, for the love of God, stop with the "B-b-but...it's okay for BLACKS! And LATINOS! And ASIANS! HARUMPH! And oh yeah, why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"

I can't take it anymore. If I have to listen to one more white person whine about reverse racism and double standards and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP and UNCF, etc...my ears will start bleeding.


why do black people get to complain about white people demanding equality?
 
2013-05-15 03:39:04 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: I was done school about 10 years ago.


You probably shouldn't have stopped after junior high. You might want to look into taking some night school classes.
 
2013-05-15 03:39:47 PM  
I wonder when BET television will finally catch up to this idea.
 
2013-05-15 03:39:53 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: How come Asians don't seem to have all these problems like blacks do? They came to this country and were abused and rose above it. Why are we still hearing about blacks? How much help do they need and how much longer will they "need" it?


Ugh. In general new immigrant blacks don't need help, the problem is poverty, and the biggest determination of poverty in this culture is race, though poor comes in all stripes, more and more aid is being shifted to income based rather than race. That said, the reasons for the rampant black poverty has a lot to do with intentionally policies from civil war till the 1980s on.
 
2013-05-15 03:39:55 PM  

Silly_Sot: Liberal hypocrisy is always moral.


You DO realize that Columbia University is a liberal bastion, right?
 
2013-05-15 03:40:00 PM  

endmile: Mose: Satanic_Hamster: What in The: Yes, we do. There's a black woman who lives down the street from me. Also, she's a one-legged lesbian.

But you can't scissor with only one leg.  That doesn't even make sense.

Knifing?

Stabbing


Pole vaulting?
 
2013-05-15 03:40:05 PM  
Dear people with your panties in a bunch,

WHITE is not an ethnicity. There ARE scholarships for ethnicites that have white people:

Here is an example of one of Irish Americans:
http://www.scholarship-programs.net/irish-americans/

So shut up.
 
2013-05-15 03:40:08 PM  

Fallout Boy: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Fallout Boy: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

*do have it better

I gotta say your wrong. Just being white does not automatically mean that you have things any better or worse than anyone else.

but continue stereotyping

Like how it has been studied that despite identical resumes, resumes with black-sounding names get called back much less than white sounding names?

Oh look, you are trying to imply that I am the racist here by saying I stereotype. Reminds me of all the Republicans that have called the Democrats as the "true racist" in this country. Ain't going to work on me, pal.


I think your puting words in my mouth, pal.
What exactly do you mean by a white sounding name? Are you implying a black dude cant be named peter or john.

what are the odds of getting a call back if your a white person who had hippie parents that named you starshine?

besides kunta kinte sounds horrible over a pa system.

I would also say there is a difference between being a racist and stereotyping people.
 
2013-05-15 03:40:46 PM  

tlars699: OgreMagi: give me doughnuts: Magorn: yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country, Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?

Remember the thousands of Irish that were shipped over as slaves during the Colonial period?

I take it you have a limited knowlege of history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant

From your link:  Not all were sent willingly. Several instances of  kidnapping for transportation to the Americas are recorded and this falls more clearly into the bracket of "white slave". Whilst these white slaves were often indentured in the same way as their willing counterparts it is an important distinction to make. An illustrative example of such a kidnap story is that of (1730-1799).
n the 17th century, nearly two-thirds of settlers to the Americas from theBritish Isles came as indentured servants. Given the high death rate, many servants did not live to the end of their terms.



So like this?
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian -h ercules/the-irish-slave-trade-forgotten-white-slaves/
 
2013-05-15 03:40:51 PM  

endmile: The Third Man: I know of a Catholic-run university where one of their alumni wanted to give a big scholarship which would only be available to non-Catholic students.  I'm sure that was fun to explain to the university president (who was, of course, a priest).  Apparently they were able to talk the alumnus out of that stipulation.

Along the lines of this scholarship...you know, the Rhodes Scholarship was once only available to white students, as well.  Cecil Rhodes was racist even by the fairly racist standards of his time and social class.

Calling Cecil Rhodes racist is like saying Hitler kind of disliked Jewish people.


True, but he had a better mustache, so that's got to count for something.  And I suppose he wasn't actively trying to kill them all, just wasn't particularly upset if they died in horrible ways.

/But you wonder:  how would a Hitler Scholarship be received?
//Also:  Rhodes is one of the few people you can compare to Hitler without Godwining the thread
 
2013-05-15 03:41:01 PM  

I Browse: why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"


There is.

It's called E!
 
2013-05-15 03:41:24 PM  

Silly_Sot: Columbia doesn't have any "blacks only" scholarships, right? They do?


No.  Columbia does not administer any "blacks only" scholarships.  That's the issue here: Columbia cannot legally administer a scholarship that restricts its awards based on race.

If an outside organization wants to administer such scholarships, that's up to them; they can restrict the grants to blacks or whites or women or anyone they want to.  And, they can also restrict the award to Columbia students.  But, COLUMBIA CANNOT DO SO ITSELF.
 
2013-05-15 03:41:43 PM  

special20: endmile: Mose: Satanic_Hamster: What in The: Yes, we do. There's a black woman who lives down the street from me. Also, she's a one-legged lesbian.

But you can't scissor with only one leg.  That doesn't even make sense.

Knifing?

Stabbing

Pole vaulting?


Letter opening?
 
2013-05-15 03:41:45 PM  

give me doughnuts: Magorn: yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country, Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?

Remember the thousands of Irish that were shipped over as slaves during the Colonial period?


Worse than slaves actually..indentured servant.  Indentured servants got to be free after a specifed period, slaves did not.  Therefore you had no econimic incentive to keep them alive longer than their indentures.  So you gave them the jobs too dangerous for a slave to do.  This was also true when they started flooding the country during the Potato Famine, you had even less economic investment in a day laborer when the supply of available hands was nearly inexhuastible.  That's why an old canal building song includes the line:  "They died by the hundreds/with no sign to mark where.  Save the brass in the pockets/ of the Entreprenuers"

BUT  despite the fact that they too were persecuted by the KKK at one time, and bore the full brunt of nativist hatred, the Irish, mostly by virtue of the fact that they quickly were not a "minority" in this country, manage to seize poltical and institutional power very quickly and don;t really ahve the history fo disenfranchisement and legal powerlessness that blacks faced.  and YES discrimination was in many ways are virulent in the North as the South, but in the South it was legally enshrined in a way it simply ws not in the north.    In the north blacks at least had access to both the education (public school were not segregated) economic opportunity, and voting power to better thier situation.   the same is not true fo the south.
 
2013-05-15 03:41:51 PM  

I Browse: Black guy here. Keep the damn scholarship. In fact...let white people have "whites only" restaurants, country clubs, proms, churches, and whatever else they want. I honestly don't care.

But please, for the love of God, stop with the "B-b-but...it's okay for BLACKS! And LATINOS! And ASIANS! HARUMPH! And oh yeah, why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"

I can't take it anymore. If I have to listen to one more white person whine about reverse racism and double standards and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP and UNCF, etc  the truth my ears will start bleeding.


FTFY

/you sound racist
 
2013-05-15 03:42:34 PM  
By the way I am against ethnic based scholar ships too (because I feel looking at their economic background would work better) however you guys sound like idiots with you "Why do black people get all the brakes!!" and having no clue what you are talking about.
 
2013-05-15 03:42:40 PM  
kvinesknows:

why do black people get to complain about white people demanding equality?


I'm not complaining. That's the point. You want your own stuff? Cool with me. Have at it.
 
2013-05-15 03:43:37 PM  

Iceberg659: Oh lawdy, too much white libertarian neckbeard butthurt in this thread.


I grant you that most assistance to colored folk is currently needed-white men are the majority in management, etc. and I expect all "minority" things to be disbanded, once race is no longer a minority/majority issue. And that people get equal support everywhere, based on need and merit.

But this is in IOWA. Y'know, poor white country, where all they export is corn? And the bylaws written in the 1920's could be changed, but instead they're dismantling the whole thing, preventing a poor guy from getting a scholarship where it wasn't hurting anyone- as tons of scholarships are extended to everyone else, due to exclusion rules.
 
2013-05-15 03:43:44 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: "...you would not be liked by some of our black employees, therefore sorry about that, no job for you."


It was the AB tattoo on your neck, right?
 
2013-05-15 03:44:12 PM  

The Third Man: I know of a Catholic-run university where one of their alumni wanted to give a big scholarship which would only be available to non-Catholic students.  I'm sure that was fun to explain to the university president (who was, of course, a priest).  Apparently they were able to talk the alumnus out of that stipulation.

Along the lines of this scholarship...you know, the Rhodes Scholarship was once only available to white students, as well.  Cecil Rhodes was racist even by the fairly racist standards of his time and social class.


What a black Rhodes scholar might look like.
www.history.com
 
2013-05-15 03:44:34 PM  

mainstreet62: I congratulate my alma mater on trying to remedy the situation.

Columbia is about as diverse a school as you can possibly get. The area around campus is vibrant and multi-racial


In other words, it's a slum.
 
2013-05-15 03:44:39 PM  
www.danzigner.com
 
2013-05-15 03:44:50 PM  

Fallout Boy: xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?

It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.


In north america women are most definatley not discriminated against in school. Nor in court.
 
2013-05-15 03:45:21 PM  

jshine: Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts: Smeggy Smurf: Wendy's Chili: Do they even have black people in Iowa?

A hell of a lot more than in Idaho.


Sorry, but no. Iowa is 88.7% caucasian, and Idaho is only 84%.

Only Maine, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Vermont, and West Virginia are more white than Iowa.

You should see China.  That place is not even 1% Caucasian.  It's full of blacks.


Interestingly, Mrs. jshine is Chinese; my family is originally from Northern Europe (mostly German, some English & Polish), but if we hold our arms side-by-side and simply look at skin tone, she's slightly whiter than I am.


static.tvtropes.org
That's because as our Foundingest Father said, Germans are a swarthy people.  Now, if you were a true white person like the people of England then you would be lighter.

www.bitterwallet.com

Now, this is an example of proper WASP bloodlines.  If you threw some German in their blood then they would be no better than common Spaniards.  *shudder*
 
2013-05-15 03:45:41 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-15 03:46:05 PM  

Magorn: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

yeah, I mean both Whites AND Blacks were an oppressed minority who suffered from YEARS of institutionalized discrimination in this country,  Remember those horrible "James Croworthington III" laws in the deep south that deprived blacks of their rights to vote and forced them to attend ridiculously underfunded schools, sit in the back of buses and use the back door at lunch counters?


I've been trying to stay out of this thread, but your post is forcing me to reply.

Are you actually making that argument that because a certain group of people have been discriminated against in the past that it is acceptable for them to discriminate against others now?
 
2013-05-15 03:46:15 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Having the vapors, I'm sure.

upload.wikimedia.org

Then she turned Japanese. Awesome.
 
2013-05-15 03:46:48 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Fallout Boy: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Fallout Boy: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

*do have it better

I gotta say your wrong. Just being white does not automatically mean that you have things any better or worse than anyone else.

but continue stereotyping

Like how it has been studied that despite identical resumes, resumes with black-sounding names get called back much less than white sounding names?

Oh look, you are trying to imply that I am the racist here by saying I stereotype. Reminds me of all the Republicans that have called the Democrats as the "true racist" in this country. Ain't going to work on me, pal.

I think your puting words in my mouth, pal.
What exactly do you mean by a white sou ...


Try harderer.
 
2013-05-15 03:47:11 PM  

abhorrent1: Why? Black people have their own, as well as Hispanics.  Once again, it's only wrong/racist if white people do it.


Liberal doublethink.
 
2013-05-15 03:47:37 PM  

I Browse: Black guy here. Keep the damn scholarship. In fact...let white people have "whites only" restaurants, country clubs, proms, churches, and whatever else they want. I honestly don't care.

But please, for the love of God, stop with the "B-b-but...it's okay for BLACKS! And LATINOS! And ASIANS! HARUMPH! And oh yeah, why is there a B.E.T. but no W.E.T.??"

I can't take it anymore. If I have to listen to one more white person whine about reverse racism and double standards and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP and UNCF, etc...my ears will start bleeding.


But it's OK when black people whine about things, right? RIGHT???
 
2013-05-15 03:47:54 PM  
Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker:

Regardless of content, it's always funny when you post in these threads.
 
2013-05-15 03:48:03 PM  
I agree.

Now do away with all scholarships based on race or gender. While you're at it, do away with all student organizations based around race or gender. I'll even go whole hog and say do away with all majors that are centered around race or gender studies.
 
2013-05-15 03:48:17 PM  
I applied for a minority scholarship in college, it was for anybody living "in the foothills of Appalachia", so, it was basically a "poor white trash" scholarship.
 
2013-05-15 03:48:47 PM  
I was a little surprised to see that this is only now being reconstructed. Lots of old scholarships, endowments, foundations, etc. have similar language. In general (and certainly in NY State), if a trust/fund such as this contains language that violates public policy, that language is either disregarded or the trustee files a motion with the proper court to strike the language or rewrite the language to conform with public policy.

I've seen and dealt with this a number of times over the years; fixing it is a non-event.

Ultimately, this isn't really news.
 
2013-05-15 03:50:03 PM  

Fallout Boy: xmasbaby: Fallout Boy: lennavan: Well yeah, a white's only scholarship is bigoted.  These however, are not:

Dr. Robert E. Campbell Memorial Scholarship for an American minority student in journalism
Gruner + Jahr Magazine Scholarship for female students interested in magazine writing
Phyllis and William Michelfelder Scholarship for a female print student
Trudi Stamm Scholarship, for a woman from New York State
Westinghouse Broadcasting Co Scholarship in memory of the late LaRue Heard Johnson ('68) for minority students
Jacobo Timerman Scholarship in memory of Jacobo Timerman (for a Latin American student)
Sylvia L. Wilson ('85) Memorial Scholarship, for an African-American woman specializing in print journalism

That's just the Columbia University Journalism school.
/there were no "whites only" journalism school scholarships, that's bigoted, remember?

I've always wondered if mouth-breathers like you also think that higher tax rates for the rich is class-warfare and class discrimination. Listen, our civilization have many measures to balance the inherent inequality in our society, and since we will never live in a post-racial world, granting scholarship to minorities is one of them. White people does not have it better than minorities, accept your genetic lottery and stop whining like an ungrateful brat.

Just to be clear, and end this once and for all... are you saying that using a person's race and/or gender is or isn't an acceptable way to award academic scholarships?

It is acceptable. And since it is painfully obvious where you are going with this, no, it is not racism when all you are trying to do is to even out the imbalanced playing field to begin. Let me know when we live in a world where minorities and women aren't discriminated in the school and work place. I won't be holding my breath.


This is currently illegal, and easier to have evidence of poor treatment.

Work place practices are exploiting current loopholes, and forcing you to comply with a corporate reporting system, which is biased against you, the (former) employee, anyway.
Protip: When a corporate line says they want to record you, you ask to record them in return. Otherwise, expect to be doctored on tape.
 
2013-05-15 03:50:36 PM  

randomjsa: I agree.

Now do away with all scholarships based on race or gender. While you're at it, do away with all student organizations based around race or gender. I'll even go whole hog and say do away with all majors that are centered around race or gender studies.


But if everyone has to play by the same rules, only the superior people will rise to the top!
 
2013-05-15 03:52:40 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Now, this is an example of proper WASP bloodlines.  If you threw some German in their blood then they would be no better than common Spaniards.  *shudder*


No better than common Spaniards you say!?  How discourteous to make such a comparison!
 
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