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(Christian Science Monitor)   Dear Doctor Dudes: Our Bro here has been having, like convulsions and stuff since he totally ruled in a drinking contest and destroyed like 20 shots of tequila, so could you like, maybe make sure he doesn't die and stuff? Thanks. Sigma Alpha Rulez   (csmonitor.com) divider line 114
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2013-05-15 12:49:10 PM
Only 20 shots? Lightweight.
 
2013-05-15 12:51:20 PM
How many of those were butt-chugged?
 
2013-05-15 12:51:44 PM
I figured registering a .47 at Arizona State is simply called "Wednesday".
 
2013-05-15 12:51:56 PM

offmymeds: Only 20 shots? Lightweight.


Give 'em a break. He's only 19. Some people just start late. Also, 20 shots in how much time? If they say like 2 hours, more disappointment.
 
2013-05-15 12:52:58 PM
Ah frats.  Fine upstanding citizens and future leaders.

There's a reason I toss all resumes that prominently include fraternity affiliations straight into the trash.
 
2013-05-15 12:55:18 PM
Drunk students on the verge of death being dropped off at the E.R. door steps was extremely common when I went to college. It definitely was not a party school, either.
 
2013-05-15 12:55:37 PM
Nice frat. "Hey, he might die... let's ditch him at the ER with a friggin' Post-it note. That definitely shows fraternity, right?"
 
2013-05-15 12:56:20 PM
My freshman year at college, first semester, I saw something similar to this happen.  (Fall of '96).

My roommate had been kicked out of his fraternity, but wanted to keep drinking, so he and his buddies on the dorm floor who couldn't get into a frat did everything they could to get drunk every night they could.  One night, apparently he had TOO much and got to the point he was pretty much dying.  His buddies hauled him to the restroom, put his head over the toilet, and tried to get him to throw up alcohol, then basically hoped he'd live through the night.

I found out about this the next morning.  I asked why they didn't call 911 or do something, they said that since they were all drinking, none of them wanted to call for an ambulance since they were afraid that they'd all get in trouble for having been drinking though they were "only" 18 years old, so nobody did.  He lived, but he was pretty badly messed up from it.

Just raising the drinking age from 18 to 21 to placate MADD didn't stop people from drinking, it just forced it underground.  It is the same as the failure of prohibition, on just a smaller scale.
 
2013-05-15 12:57:02 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Ah frats.  Fine upstanding citizens and future leaders.

There's a reason I toss all resumes that prominently include fraternity affiliations straight into the trash.


Don't be too sure they won't learn *some* useful life skills.....

i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-05-15 12:57:37 PM
Teliqua bad. Vodak good.
 
2013-05-15 12:57:39 PM

Genju: offmymeds: Only 20 shots? Lightweight.

Give 'em a break. He's only 19. Some people just start late. Also, 20 shots in how much time? If they say like 2 hours, more disappointment.


Anyone have a graph of alcohol abuse percentages vs. legal drinking age by country? Cause I'm thinking some of our socialist brethern across the pond might be on to something...

/ Legal drinking age where I grew up (Canada) was 18. Got it all out of my system before college.
 
2013-05-15 12:58:52 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

/hot
 
2013-05-15 01:00:47 PM
So did he get laid? I mean that is what frats are for, to get laid. Right?
 
2013-05-15 01:02:33 PM

99.998er: So did he get laid? I mean that is what frats are for, to get laid. Right?


Frats are also for having sex with unconscious people... so, yes, but not the way he would've liked.
 
2013-05-15 01:02:53 PM
Not exactly a great way to built brotherhood but at least they did take him to the hospital. There should be an amnesty rule in place, if only to encourage people to bring those who need actual medical help, not a toilet. The cops at my college tried arresting and ticketing minors who showed up or were dropped off at the local hospital, but the actual municipal PD stepped in along with the hospital administration and told them to gtfo.

Saving lives > a minor consumption ticket
 
2013-05-15 01:04:31 PM

Killer Cars: I figured registering a .47 at Arizona State is simply called "Wednesday".


Or graduate program if it's a GPA.
 
2013-05-15 01:05:05 PM
Impossible.  The doctor two articles up tells us that the real problem is the legalization of the devil weed, not our wholesome, all-American liquid brain number.

/maybe it has something to do with responsibility and moderation
//nah, it's the devil weed
 
2013-05-15 01:05:08 PM
You know I never really got this whole drinking contest thing. If you're trying to drink as fast as you can, how do you have time to savor your drink?
 
2013-05-15 01:06:14 PM
FTFAUnderage drinking is a major public health concern. Here, Walton County, Fla. Deputy Sheriff Brad Barefield, right, checked for alcohol in a drink as spring breaker Wesley Bell watchedon a Florida beach, March 13, 2013.

What is this magical alcohol checking flashlight?

// If the DUI limit was .05, he would have been nearly 10 times the legal limit! We should up it just so these articles sound scarier!
 
2013-05-15 01:07:26 PM
The CDC says 4,700 underage drinkers die per year from alcohol.

The CDC estimates that binge drinking costs the US $1.90 a drink, or $223.5 billion in 2006, due to health care costs, crime, and productivity loss.


Congress to enact background checks and stricter alcohol control laws in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-05-15 01:07:29 PM
His dad owns a dealership.
 
2013-05-15 01:09:04 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Ah frats.  Fine upstanding citizens and future leaders.

There's a reason I toss all resumes that prominently include fraternity affiliations straight into the trash.


You are not alone in that practice. So do I. Any Greek affiliation; sororities or fraternities.

I once worked under a guy who was really into his Frat. Still partied with them well into his 40's. Was the WORST person Ive ever worked for hands down. Not only was he a jerk, he was an incompetent jerk.
 
2013-05-15 01:10:13 PM

Brass_Robo: You know I never really got this whole drinking contest thing. If you're trying to drink as fast as you can, how do you have time to savor your drink?


Savor a drink? I may be wrong, but I hardly think these frat kids were drinking Johnny Walker Blue Label.
 
2013-05-15 01:10:25 PM
It's all the fault of the fraternity.  Because there has never been a non-fraternity member who has gotten drunk and been abandoned by his non-fraternity friends.

And we know that all rapes on college campuses are perpetrated by frat boys.

Theta Chi at University of Florida, '89-'94..  I lived in the house for four years and never saw or heard of a date rape. The only accusation we had was from a girl who later recanted and admitted that she was embarrassed about being a skank.

The only problem with underage passed out girls we had was the one who got drunk at a high school party and her friends dumped her at our house to try to avoid getting themselves in trouble.
 
2013-05-15 01:11:01 PM
At least they actually took the guy to the hospital; not just cover him up with an area rug and leave him for the morning.
 
2013-05-15 01:11:11 PM

FormlessOne: Nice frat. "Hey, he might die... let's ditch him at the ER with a friggin' Post-it note. That definitely shows fraternity, right?"


See that's what all the greek haters fail to understand:  All that hazing and stuff you go through?  it forms a BOND, these men that become your BROTHERS (once the check clears)  and they will be by your side for LIFE, and there is NOTHING that a brother won;t do for another brother, so long as , ya know, it's not real inconvenient, or cutting into thier facetime with that cutie from their sister sorority, or you know it might get them in some kinda trouble or something, then of course, you are on your own Brah,
 
2013-05-15 01:11:30 PM

Silverstaff: My freshman year at college, first semester, I saw something similar to this happen.  (Fall of '96).

My roommate had been kicked out of his fraternity, but wanted to keep drinking, so he and his buddies on the dorm floor who couldn't get into a frat did everything they could to get drunk every night they could.  One night, apparently he had TOO much and got to the point he was pretty much dying.  His buddies hauled him to the restroom, put his head over the toilet, and tried to get him to throw up alcohol, then basically hoped he'd live through the night.

I found out about this the next morning.  I asked why they didn't call 911 or do something, they said that since they were all drinking, none of them wanted to call for an ambulance since they were afraid that they'd all get in trouble for having been drinking though they were "only" 18 years old, so nobody did.  He lived, but he was pretty badly messed up from it.

Just raising the drinking age from 18 to 21 to placate MADD didn't stop people from drinking, it just forced it underground.  It is the same as the failure of prohibition, on just a smaller scale.


No. Wrong. Many people are stopped from getting alcohol because of the age restriction. Maybe not the type of people you know.
 
2013-05-15 01:12:26 PM

KillTheStupid: It's all the fault of the fraternity.  Because there has never been a non-fraternity member who has gotten drunk and been abandoned by his non-fraternity friends.

And we know that all rapes on college campuses are perpetrated by frat boys.

Theta Chi at University of Florida, '89-'94..  I lived in the house for four years and never saw or heard of a date rape. The only accusation we had was from a girl who later recanted and admitted that she was embarrassed about being a skank.

The only problem with underage passed out girls we had was the one who got drunk at a high school party and her friends dumped her at our house to try to avoid getting themselves in trouble.

Was she in a shopping cart?
 
2013-05-15 01:13:55 PM
*hangs head*

God dammit, guys. Stop proving the frat boy stereotype. A fraternity man is a responsible adult who believes in bettering the world through bettering himself. A frat boy believes in bros before hos and copious amounts of liquor.

/Went Greek, had a blast doing it
//Hates frat boys
 
2013-05-15 01:14:14 PM

Theaetetus: 99.998er: So did he get laid? I mean that is what frats are for, to get laid. Right?

Frats are also for having sex with unconscious people... so, yes, but not the way he would've liked.


+1
 
2013-05-15 01:14:19 PM
Reminds me of Spring Break in 2000 in Panama City Beach.  When we first got to our hotel room, we went out on the balcony and saw a guy chug a large bottle of wine in seconds.  He fell face first into the sand.  My friend was a lifeguard, ran down there, and found him medical attention.  He lived, but he spent most of the week in the ICU.
 
2013-05-15 01:14:29 PM
*Dr. Nick takes a sniff, steps over him*
 
2013-05-15 01:14:50 PM

WinoRhino: Killer Cars: I figured registering a .47 at Arizona State is simply called "Wednesday".

Or graduate program if it's a GPA.


+2
 
2013-05-15 01:16:08 PM
Good thing the fraternity brothers wheeled him to the hospital in spite of what the Associated Press reported was their concern everyone would get in trouble if they did.

Did the drunk kid write that sentence?
 
2013-05-15 01:16:12 PM
Those frat guys deserve a coont punt.
 
2013-05-15 01:16:39 PM
Do you still win if you die? Not sure of the rules.
 
2013-05-15 01:18:49 PM
The CDC estimates that binge drinking costs the US $1.90 a drink

That's cheap. I should start binge drinking.
 
2013-05-15 01:19:42 PM
The article sort of implies that the drinking age is high to prevent binge drinking by younguns. I kind of suspect the causation is really the other way... you binge drink when you're under the age because booze is here now, and who knows when it will be again. Also you drink at shady places like frats when you're underage. I think we could really prevent a lot of alcohol injuries and rapes if we came to grips with the fact that people drink underage. Perhaps the beer age limit (or 5% abv limit) should change to 18 or something; ween them into drinking with something very unlikely to kill them.
 
2013-05-15 01:19:43 PM

99.998er: Brass_Robo: You know I never really got this whole drinking contest thing. If you're trying to drink as fast as you can, how do you have time to savor your drink?

Savor a drink? I may be wrong, but I hardly think these frat kids were drinking Johnny Walker Blue Label.


I really got how much drinking changes as you get older one night at at house party in Chicago.  The occasion of the party was a friend of mine graduating with her PhD from college (so just shy of 26) and ceremoniously turning over her apartment near campus to her sister who was an incoming freshman.   Needless to say there was a amrked age gap between attendees who were friends one sister or the other.

At one point, us old folks were hanging in the kitchen and conversation had turned to favorite wines and craft brews, and which 12- year old whisky we preferred, pretntious shiat like that....meanwhile I watched a friend of the younger sister stagger in, obviously drunk...go over the liquor table, pour some OJ into a red solo cup and then pick up various bottle of liquor, not to see thier labels but just to figure out which was fullest, and then proceed to top his cup off and stagger out.
 
2013-05-15 01:20:39 PM
www.premier-md.com
 
2013-05-15 01:20:40 PM

Mija: Silverstaff: My freshman year at college, first semester, I saw something similar to this happen.  (Fall of '96).

My roommate had been kicked out of his fraternity, but wanted to keep drinking, so he and his buddies on the dorm floor who couldn't get into a frat did everything they could to get drunk every night they could.  One night, apparently he had TOO much and got to the point he was pretty much dying.  His buddies hauled him to the restroom, put his head over the toilet, and tried to get him to throw up alcohol, then basically hoped he'd live through the night.

I found out about this the next morning.  I asked why they didn't call 911 or do something, they said that since they were all drinking, none of them wanted to call for an ambulance since they were afraid that they'd all get in trouble for having been drinking though they were "only" 18 years old, so nobody did.  He lived, but he was pretty badly messed up from it.

Just raising the drinking age from 18 to 21 to placate MADD didn't stop people from drinking, it just forced it underground.  It is the same as the failure of prohibition, on just a smaller scale.

No. Wrong. Many people are stopped from getting alcohol because of the age restriction. Maybe not the type of people you know.


That's a mighty strong and well-supported argument you put forth there, sport.
 
2013-05-15 01:21:01 PM

Elzar: Genju: offmymeds: Only 20 shots? Lightweight.

Give 'em a break. He's only 19. Some people just start late. Also, 20 shots in how much time? If they say like 2 hours, more disappointment.

Anyone have a graph of alcohol abuse percentages vs. legal drinking age by country? Cause I'm thinking some of our socialist brethern across the pond might be on to something...

/ Legal drinking age where I grew up (Canada) was 18. Got it all out of my system before college.


This. I fully plan in getting my kids shiatfaced when they are teenagers. Teach them that hangovers suck and the mild buzz is the way to go. The fact is they they ARE going to be exposed to this BS. They need to armed with the proper knowledge and experience to make the right decisions. For example: only an asshat drinks 20 shots.
/ parents let me drink at home from about 16 on.
/ two rules: no getting shiatfaced, no leaving the house once you started.
/ mild buzz FTW
/ CSB
 
2013-05-15 01:21:07 PM
Now that's a school I'd take out $160,000 in student loans to attend.
 
2013-05-15 01:22:32 PM

Mija: No. Wrong. Many people are stopped from getting alcohol because of the age restriction. Maybe not the type of people you know.


Yeah, the kinds of people that either don't have a fake i.d., don't have any older friends or "acquaintances", don't have a parent's liquor cabinet they can raid or just plain have no interest in drinking.  In other words, people that the cool crowd has no desire to know.
 
2013-05-15 01:23:54 PM
How is this not in the "stupid" category?
 
2013-05-15 01:24:30 PM
CSB: When I was 16, a couple of friends and I got a hold of a bottle of Jack Daniels. We thought we'd be totally cool and swig right out of the bottle! Turns out i may have been the only one swigging away....Needless to say, i was not very ambulatory and one of the guys who was trying to walk me to the bus stop gave up after I wouldn't get up. He was freaked out that I would roll down the hill onto the trqain tracks, and was kind enough to go home and make an anonymous call to the cops about a guy passed out by the tracks.
I woke up in the ER with a cop berating me. It took me a couple of decades to realize i had a problem with alcohol and finally quit.
 
2013-05-15 01:24:57 PM

Brass_Robo: You know I never really got this whole drinking contest thing. If you're trying to drink as fast as you can, how do you have time to savor your drink?


It's college. College kids can't afford drinks wanting savoring.
 
2013-05-15 01:24:59 PM
Mija:

No. Wrong. Many people are stopped from getting alcohol because of the age restriction. Maybe not the type of people you know.

Yeah, I don't know any dorks.
 
2013-05-15 01:25:16 PM

Elzar: Anyone have a graph of alcohol abuse percentages vs. legal drinking age by country? Cause I'm thinking some of our socialist brethern across the pond might be on to something...

/ Legal drinking age where I grew up (Canada) was 18. Got it all out of my system before college.


I spent a week at U of Nottingham in England and holy shiat do those guys drink.   Much more than anything I saw at college in the US.  Maybe Nottingham is worse than most but dropping the drinking age to 18 isn't going to cut out college binging.
 
2013-05-15 01:26:16 PM
DontMakeMeComeBackThere, Coastalgrl:

There's a reason I toss all resumes that prominently include fraternity affiliations straight into the trash.

You are not alone in that practice. So do I. Any Greek affiliation; sororities or fraternities.

Serious question: should I scrub my membership in Lambda Pi Eta, National Communication Honors Society, from my resume?

In other words, does the resume hit the basket as soon as there are Greek letters?

/not snark
//never joined a frat...every frat boy on campus made it clear through their behaviors just why they had to buy friends
///Aaaaaand bring on the "your communication degree is worthless" brigade
 
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