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(The New York Times)   Russia, Iran and the United States sit down and agree to work together for common goal: restoring wrestling to the Olympics. Who says sports doesn't bring people together?   (nytimes.com) divider line 55
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2013-05-15 08:55:33 AM  
They probably just like sweaty guys dry humping each other...
 
2013-05-15 08:56:08 AM  

FullMetalPanda: They probably just like sweaty guys dry humping each other...


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-05-15 08:57:01 AM  
Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).
 
2013-05-15 08:57:56 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


So is boffing your mom.
 
2013-05-15 09:00:17 AM  
Does this have something to do with there being no international female wrestling?
 
2013-05-15 09:01:51 AM  
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The first meetings have gone better than expected, though the Farsi translation for "pencil-necked geek" is rather rough.
 
2013-05-15 09:03:03 AM  
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2013-05-15 09:12:53 AM  

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The first meetings have gone better than expected, though the Farsi translation for "pencil-necked geek" is rather rough.


You 100% Bubba.
 
2013-05-15 09:20:00 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


They still have curling and ballroom dancing I believe as well....
 
2013-05-15 09:25:38 AM  

octopied: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

They still have curling and ballroom dancing I believe as well....


Curling is pretty fun to watch and has a male and female competitions.
 
2013-05-15 09:25:44 AM  

FullMetalPanda: They probably just like sweaty guys dry humping each other...


You know how I know you're a homosexual person that played basketball in high school?
 
2013-05-15 09:27:20 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


Wait, so how is that different from regular old gymnastics (pommel horse, uneven bars, etc) then?
 
2013-05-15 09:31:35 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Wait, so how is that different from regular old gymnastics (pommel horse, uneven bars, etc) then?


Ribbon Dancers, rubber balls, hula hoops and stuff.

I dont mind those competitions being included, what I do mind is that they can only have a certain number of competitions.  Wrestling is practiced all around the world and the medalists from everywhere.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics
 
2013-05-15 09:34:06 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Wait, so how is that different from regular old gymnastics (pommel horse, uneven bars, etc) then?


There's an objective rubric for regular gymnastics.  You do a particular technique in a particular way, you get a certain number of points.  Rhythmic gymnastics is just "oh, isn't that pretty"?
 
2013-05-15 09:36:05 AM  
This has everything to do with a bunch of sports governing organizations getting all butt-hurt at each other and has nothing to do with sports.

The IOC is famously vain, corrupt and obsessed with its own power.  They are in a war with the international organization(s) that govern wrestling.  The wrestling organizations don't want the IOC to tell them what to do (even though they themselves are in even worse shape than the IOC).  So the IOC does the only sensible thing: attempt to cut one of the original Olympic sports from the Olympics.  Makes sense, right?

The thing that nobody is talking about is what the organizations are actually fighting about, which is better oversight of officials (refs) and methods of ensuring fair scoring and competition - which are all good goals, but killing a sport is a very curious way of improving it.
 
2013-05-15 09:39:17 AM  

meanmutton: Jim from Saint Paul: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Wait, so how is that different from regular old gymnastics (pommel horse, uneven bars, etc) then?

There's an objective rubric for regular gymnastics.  You do a particular technique in a particular way, you get a certain number of points.  Rhythmic gymnastics is just "oh, isn't that pretty"?


Ah. Makes sense.
 
2013-05-15 09:42:19 AM  

octopied: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

They still have curling and ballroom dancing I believe as well....


Not ballroom dancing (a.k.a. "Dancesport"), but ice dancing, which is just ballroom dancing on skates.
 
2013-05-15 09:44:55 AM  
Fark the Olympics. I used to be psyched up to watch all the competitions. Now, not at all. Too much stupid back stories and not enough actual sporting events. Kinda reminds me of the MTV slide from music videos to nonsense.
 
2013-05-15 09:46:25 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


Baseball and softball are pretty dumb as Olympic sports.  Softball is just the US and Canada every time and baseball occurs during the MLB season so it's full of second tier players.

For that matter soccer/football is a pretty dumb Olympic sport too.  Get rid of every Olympic sport where the winners are worse than top level league teams.
 
2013-05-15 09:49:07 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


Chimp_ninja's completely unfair and arbitrary criteria for determining if something is a real sport:
1) Physically challenging in terms of a combination of strength, endurance, coordination, and/or speed.  People should occasionally get injured.  (Chess is not a sport.  Darts is not a sport.  The damn spelling bee should definitely not be on ESPN, until they add "running away from actual bees while spelling".)
2) Winners and losers are determined by reasonably objective, skill-based outcomes.  Subjective aesthetic judgments are right out.  (Figure skating is not a sport.  Synchronized anything is not a sport.
Corollary to #2: If no one is keeping score, it's not a sport.  You're just getting exercise.)
3) The athlete should be the focal point, not complicated equipment.  (Auto racing is not a sport.  Horse racing is a sport... for the horse. Video games are not called "video sports" for a reason.  Archery is a sport for now, but if they keep adding more ridiculous sighting, triggers, etc. then it's just an engineering demonstration.)

Boxing has at least the possibility of an objective conclusion (TKO, KO), and it scores well enough on the other criteria that I'd easily call it a sport.
 
2013-05-15 09:49:42 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: meanmutton: Jim from Saint Paul: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Wait, so how is that different from regular old gymnastics (pommel horse, uneven bars, etc) then?

There's an objective rubric for regular gymnastics.  You do a particular technique in a particular way, you get a certain number of points.  Rhythmic gymnastics is just "oh, isn't that pretty"?

Ah. Makes sense.


Gymnastics is legit, like Wrestling. Rhythmic gymnastics is fake, like (Olympic) Boxing.
 
2013-05-15 09:55:13 AM  

chimp_ninja: Boxing has at least the possibility of an objective conclusion (TKO, KO), and it scores well enough on the other criteria that I'd easily call it a sport.


There are sports, games, competitions, and races. I am sure you can figure out what sports fit where and that some fit in multiple categories.

/my arbitrary analysis
 
2013-05-15 10:02:52 AM  
Get rid of anything synchronized.
 
2013-05-15 10:17:03 AM  

chimp_ninja: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Chimp_ninja's completely unfair and arbitrary criteria for determining if something is a real sport:
1) Physically challenging in terms of a combination of strength, endurance, coordination, and/or speed.  People should occasionally get injured.  (Chess is not a sport.  Darts is not a sport.  The damn spelling bee should definitely not be on ESPN, until they add "running away from actual bees while spelling".)
2) Winners and losers are determined by reasonably objective, skill-based outcomes.  Subjective aesthetic judgments are right out.  (Figure skating is not a sport.  Synchronized anything is not a sport.
Corollary to #2: If no one is keeping score, it's not a sport.  You're just getting exercise.)
3) The athlete should be the focal point, not complicated equipment.  (Auto racing is not a sport.  Horse racing is a sport... for the horse. Video games are not called "video sports" for a reason.  Archery is a sport for now, but if they keep adding more ridiculous sighting, triggers, etc. then it's just an engineering demonstration.)

Boxing has at least the possibility of an objective conclusion (TKO, KO), and it scores well enough on the other criteria that I'd easily call it a sport.


Crossfit?
 
2013-05-15 10:17:27 AM  

Halstread: Crossfit?


Cult.
 
2013-05-15 10:19:37 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


Rhythmic gymnastics falls under regular gymnastics.  So removing it would not open up a spot for wrestling.  It would be like removing one swimming event or one track race or one weight class of wrestlers.  There is a limit to the number of sports, not the number of events.

octopied: They still have curling and ballroom dancing I believe as well....


Curling is a winter olympic sport... so has pretty much nothing to do with wrestling.

Really, wrestling should join up with all the martial arts and get one giant overseeing association for them all.  Just put a thin layer of leadership over all of them but let everyone keep running their fiefdoms... i mean sports.  It really would be a win win.
 
2013-05-15 10:20:10 AM  

Gunny Highway: Halstread: Crossfit?

Cult.


Fair enough, and agreed, but I always wondered if it would be considered a sport.  It requires athleticism but I don't know if being "fit" means you are participating in a sport.
 
2013-05-15 10:20:27 AM  

JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).


Time to explain this yet again.  In the Olympic hierarchy, there are sports, disciplines, and events.  Many people mistake disciplines as being separate sports.  This is not necessarily the case.  Rhythmic gymnastics is not a sport, it is a discipline.  The sport of gymnastics is a conglomeration of three disciplines; artistic, rhythmic and trampoline gymnastics.  Getting rid of one discipline does not free up a spot for another sport.
 
2013-05-15 10:24:11 AM  
Before the last Olympics, they had qualifying rounds for wrestling in my local area that were sold out soon after the tickets were for sale. There are people who enjoy the sport, but I think that only occurs in cities that really enjoy local sports and little of the flair they are proposing will change it enough for a larger general audience.
 
2013-05-15 10:26:51 AM  

Tiberius Gracchus: Gymnastics is legit, like Wrestling. Rhythmic gymnastics is fake, like (Olympic) Boxing.


Dude, professional boxing is even more rigged than Olympic boxing.

chimp_ninja: Chimp_ninja's completely unfair and arbitrary criteria for determining if something is a real sport:


Does golf pass test #1? I think it's on the borderline.
 
2013-05-15 10:30:05 AM  

Halstread: Gunny Highway: Halstread: Crossfit?

Cult.

Fair enough, and agreed, but I always wondered if it would be considered a sport.  It requires athleticism but I don't know if being "fit" means you are participating in a sport.


I watched some of the Crossfit Champships on ESPN the other weekend.  They started with a crossfit version of a tri.  It was the stupidest competition I had ever seen.

I think it could be organized into something that would qualify as a sport.  But they are not there yet.
 
2013-05-15 10:41:20 AM  

12349876: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Time to explain this yet again.  In the Olympic hierarchy, there are sports, disciplines, and events.  Many people mistake disciplines as being separate sports.  This is not necessarily the case.  Rhythmic gymnastics is not a sport, it is a discipline.  The sport of gymnastics is a conglomeration of three disciplines; artistic, rhythmic and trampoline gymnastics.  Getting rid of one discipline does not free up a spot for another sport.


Why the hell are their "spots" anyway?  It's not like there's an Olympic Bus and there's only so many seats, so, "sorry wrestling we gave  your seat to wakeboarding..."

I realize the economics of the situation mean you can't have an unlimited number of events but the number of countries participating in a given sport should be a consideration as to it's inclusion - wrestling had the greatest number of countries participating and medaling (or damn close to it) out of any event in the last 50 years.

/doesnt even like wrestling
 
2013-05-15 10:49:24 AM  

Halstread: chimp_ninja: JosephFinn: Excellent.  Make sure to work on baseball and softball as well, then we can get rid of non-sports like rhythmic gymnastics (yes, it's a lovely athletic activity, but it's a completely subjectively scored activity, like boxing).

Chimp_ninja's completely unfair and arbitrary criteria for determining if something is a real sport:
1) Physically challenging in terms of a combination of strength, endurance, coordination, and/or speed.  People should occasionally get injured.  (Chess is not a sport.  Darts is not a sport.  The damn spelling bee should definitely not be on ESPN, until they add "running away from actual bees while spelling".)
2) Winners and losers are determined by reasonably objective, skill-based outcomes.  Subjective aesthetic judgments are right out.  (Figure skating is not a sport.  Synchronized anything is not a sport.
Corollary to #2: If no one is keeping score, it's not a sport.  You're just getting exercise.)
3) The athlete should be the focal point, not complicated equipment.  (Auto racing is not a sport.  Horse racing is a sport... for the horse. Video games are not called "video sports" for a reason.  Archery is a sport for now, but if they keep adding more ridiculous sighting, triggers, etc. then it's just an engineering demonstration.)

Boxing has at least the possibility of an objective conclusion (TKO, KO), and it scores well enough on the other criteria that I'd easily call it a sport.

Crossfit?


There needs to be some sort of fourth rule about stuff like that and World's Strongest Man or Ninja Warrior.  Sure, lifting a platform full of showgirls or lugging an anchor around is physically challenging, but there's something unseemly about the excessively arbitrary nature of the events.
 
2013-05-15 10:53:14 AM  

Fizpez: It's not like there's an Olympic Bus and there's only so many seats,


The IOC has created an Olympic bus around the beginning of the new millenium.  Limit of 28 sports.
 
2013-05-15 10:57:22 AM  

Fizpez: Why the hell are their "spots" anyway? It's not like there's an Olympic Bus and there's only so many seats, so, "sorry wrestling we gave your seat to wakeboarding..."

I realize the economics of the situation mean you can't have an unlimited number of events but the number of countries participating in a given sport should be a consideration as to it's inclusion - wrestling had the greatest number of countries participating and medaling (or damn close to it) out of any event in the last 50 years.


The economics argument has some weight for baseball/softball.  You can only put two teams on a field at a time, the games take ~3 hours so you can only run 2-3/day when you consider cleanup and logistics, and the fields are huge and specialized.  You could probably do baseball and softball on the same fields (with movable fences), but it's not like a soccer pitch where you can host all kinds of stuff in that space.

But wrestling?  They wrestle for like 3 minutes and the equipment is a basket full of tiny pants and head-bras.  You could host it in a high school gym for the rental fee and whatever refs cost.  It's ridiculous to cut a sport that is practiced in every country in the world, and literally goes back to the first Olympics.  Blaming some arbitrary "the book says can only have X sports, even through swimming is one sport with 11,000 events" rule is stupid.  Change the stupid book.
 
2013-05-15 10:57:49 AM  

12349876: Fizpez: It's not like there's an Olympic Bus and there's only so many seats,

The IOC has created an Olympic bus around the beginning of the new millenium.  Limit of 28 sports.


Which, of course, is straight up idiotic unless your goal is to create economic tension between the "IN" group of sports and the "OUT" group of sports allowing you to  derive maximum economic benefit from the Olympics collect as many bribes as possible.
 
2013-05-15 11:01:49 AM  

RminusQ: Does golf pass test #1? I think it's on the borderline.


It's dicey but I'd count it.  There's definitely a ton of coordination and skill, and there's some element of strength involved.  It otherwise easily meets the criteria, and it fits the general Olympic theme in that it's played internationally.  You could argue against it in terms of economics, though-- lots of players can churn through a course in a day, but building even one championship-quality golf course is a serious undertaking.
 
2013-05-15 11:02:18 AM  

chimp_ninja: There needs to be some sort of fourth rule about stuff like that and World's Strongest Man or Ninja Warrior. Sure, lifting a platform full of showgirls or lugging an anchor around is physically challenging, but there's something unseemly about the excessively arbitrary nature of the events.


I give the competitions that to be deliberately more pure spectacle a bit of a pass, and I like the fact that the events are totally ridiculous.  "Here's a piece of brass shaped like Africa for no reason in particular.  It weighs 482 pounds.  Carry it around for a while."  I don't know anything about Ninja Warrior but AFAIK World's Strongest Man is not steroid tested at all so it's basically a freak show by design.
 
2013-05-15 11:03:22 AM  

you have pee hands: that seem to be deliberately


FTFM
 
2013-05-15 11:03:26 AM  

chimp_ninja: RminusQ: Does golf pass test #1? I think it's on the borderline.

It's dicey but I'd count it.  There's definitely a ton of coordination and skill, and there's some element of strength involved.  It otherwise easily meets the criteria, and it fits the general Olympic theme in that it's played internationally.  You could argue against it in terms of economics, though-- lots of players can churn through a course in a day, but building even one championship-quality golf course is a serious undertaking.


Miniature Golf can fit as well if you are lenient enough in using that criteria.
 
2013-05-15 11:06:19 AM  

12349876: Fizpez: It's not like there's an Olympic Bus and there's only so many seats,

The IOC has created an Olympic bus around the beginning of the new millenium.  Limit of 28 sports.


I suspect that the IOC could un-create that if they wanted.  I mean, assuming they're willing to endure the violation of a tradition that is ones of years old.
 
2013-05-15 11:06:51 AM  

chimp_ninja: RminusQ: Does golf pass test #1? I think it's on the borderline.

It's dicey but I'd count it.  There's definitely a ton of coordination and skill, and there's some element of strength involved.  It otherwise easily meets the criteria, and it fits the general Olympic theme in that it's played internationally.  You could argue against it in terms of economics, though-- lots of players can churn through a course in a day, but building even one championship-quality golf course is a serious undertaking.


You are forgetting one important test:
Do you want the beer while you are playing or after you are done?

Golf fails that test.
 
2013-05-15 11:09:38 AM  

pkellmey: Miniature Golf can fit as well if you are lenient enough in using that criteria.


No strength element, and ruled "not physically challenging".  It's in the corner with darts.

I'm also borrowing from you have pee hands and considering a "not a spectacle" fourth rule, citing the Supreme Court's "I know it when I see it" doctrine.

This arbitrary and unfair ruling is immune to appeal.  IMMUNE!
 
2013-05-15 11:10:24 AM  

bacongood: chimp_ninja: RminusQ: Does golf pass test #1? I think it's on the borderline.

It's dicey but I'd count it.  There's definitely a ton of coordination and skill, and there's some element of strength involved.  It otherwise easily meets the criteria, and it fits the general Olympic theme in that it's played internationally.  You could argue against it in terms of economics, though-- lots of players can churn through a course in a day, but building even one championship-quality golf course is a serious undertaking.

You are forgetting one important test:
Do you want the beer while you are playing or after you are done?

Golf fails that test.


That is the criteria I use most often in the office; if you can play it drunk and do at least average, it's not a sport. NASCAR, bowling, darts and golf all fall into that problem. Baseball fails because we like to run in straight lines to get to the bases (plus falling into a fastball can kill you).
 
2013-05-15 11:11:13 AM  

bacongood: chimp_ninja: RminusQ: Does golf pass test #1? I think it's on the borderline.

It's dicey but I'd count it.  There's definitely a ton of coordination and skill, and there's some element of strength involved.  It otherwise easily meets the criteria, and it fits the general Olympic theme in that it's played internationally.  You could argue against it in terms of economics, though-- lots of players can churn through a course in a day, but building even one championship-quality golf course is a serious undertaking.

You are forgetting one important test:
Do you want the beer while you are playing or after you are done?

Golf fails that test.


Wouldn't the Red Sox team from a few years ago fail this test as well?
 
2013-05-15 11:15:14 AM  

cefm: This has everything to do with a bunch of sports governing organizations getting all butt-hurt at each other and has nothing to do with sports.

The IOC is famously vain, corrupt and obsessed with its own power.  They are in a war with the international organization(s) that govern wrestling.  The wrestling organizations don't want the IOC to tell them what to do (even though they themselves are in even worse shape than the IOC).  So the IOC does the only sensible thing: attempt to cut one of the original Olympic sports from the Olympics.  Makes sense, right?

The thing that nobody is talking about is what the organizations are actually fighting about, which is better oversight of officials (refs) and methods of ensuring fair scoring and competition - which are all good goals, but killing a sport is a very curious way of improving it.


AFAIC the Olympics have outlived their usefulness.
 
2013-05-15 11:19:19 AM  

chimp_ninja: Fizpez: Why the hell are their "spots" anyway? It's not like there's an Olympic Bus and there's only so many seats, so, "sorry wrestling we gave your seat to wakeboarding..."

I realize the economics of the situation mean you can't have an unlimited number of events but the number of countries participating in a given sport should be a consideration as to it's inclusion - wrestling had the greatest number of countries participating and medaling (or damn close to it) out of any event in the last 50 years.

The economics argument has some weight for baseball/softball.  You can only put two teams on a field at a time, the games take ~3 hours so you can only run 2-3/day when you consider cleanup and logistics, and the fields are huge and specialized.  You could probably do baseball and softball on the same fields (with movable fences), but it's not like a soccer pitch where you can host all kinds of stuff in that space.

But wrestling?  They wrestle for like 3 minutes and the equipment is a basket full of tiny pants and head-bras.  You could host it in a high school gym for the rental fee and whatever refs cost.  It's ridiculous to cut a sport that is practiced in every country in the world, and literally goes back to the first Olympics.  Blaming some arbitrary "the book says can only have X sports, even through swimming is one sport with 11,000 events" rule is stupid.  Change the stupid book.


Or, and this kind of builds on what others said above, just have a "Combat Sports" sport has disciplines for wrestling, boxing, Tae Kwon Do, fencing, etc.
 
2013-05-15 11:20:44 AM  

Rwa2play: AFAIC the Olympics have outlived their usefulness.


I completely agree. Nationalism is definitely not needed anymore for most nations. Pride in achievement is overrated by how the media portrays it and is out-weighed by the sole purpose to apparently sell more commercial products for the sponsors. The spirit of the games was long ago extinguished.
 
2013-05-15 11:41:54 AM  

RminusQ: Tiberius Gracchus: Gymnastics is legit, like Wrestling. Rhythmic gymnastics is fake, like (Olympic) Boxing.

Dude, professional boxing is even more rigged than Olympic boxing.


Olympic boxing gets special credit for being so blatantly fixed that I'm not sure it's serious - it has to be some bizarre modern performance art, right? OlympicBoxing:Boxing as LadyGaGa:PopMusic
 
2013-05-15 12:44:29 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: RminusQ: Tiberius Gracchus: Gymnastics is legit, like Wrestling. Rhythmic gymnastics is fake, like (Olympic) Boxing.

Dude, professional boxing is even more rigged than Olympic boxing.

Olympic boxing gets special credit for being so blatantly fixed that I'm not sure it's serious - it has to be some bizarre modern performance art, right? OlympicBoxing:Boxing as LadyGaGa:PopMusic


The best way to stop the bullshiat in boxing is to follow Tae Kwon Do. The Beijing Olympics had some scoring a that would embarrass boxing and it made the sport look like a joke. So they came up with a technological solution with sensors on the socks, gloves and chest guard so that any blow above a pressure  threshold counts with the judges left for only scoring head kicks. Plus the couches have the ability to call for a replay for head kicks as well.

Stopped most of the crap outright. If only boxing wasn't more corrupt than the IOC
 
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