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2013-05-15 10:29:41 AM
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pkellmey: Felgraf: By scary, you mean fark YEAH, SCIENCE!, right?

I'm not entirely sure how good this is. Anyone know what the permanent brain or organ damage percentages are with this method? Even short term deaths usually have a pretty decent chance of reviving someone for a future life of organ issues due to lack of blood flow during the time they were dead. I'd be more afraid of doctors just creating patients with a horrible future life situation than if they simply died.


Well, I believe that's what the high-oxygenation machine is for: To super-oxygenate the blood, to *make sure* everything gets all the oxygen it needs, and the cells don't start committing apoptosis.
2013-05-15 10:01:47 AM
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This is not scary - we need a brilliant tag.

What's scary is how this is working and the rest of the medical community is slow as hell to get on board. I guess they think it's scary too.

I can't wait until it finally changes the dramatic moment of every medical drama - no more shocking people and beating on their chest and "amps of epi".
2013-05-15 09:53:01 AM
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Um, "clinical death" and "biological death" are two entirely different matters.  IIRC, the clinical version means a flatline on vital signs, whereas the biological one means "that's all she wrote, and there ain't no more."

/and by 'she', I don't mean Mary Shelley
2013-05-15 11:51:48 AM
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stevarooni: The CPR machine sounds like it could be widely used (portable) with no big troubles (except for cost).  The ECMO sounds very sensitive and prone to risk infection.


that's today. the tech will get better. and it is leads to better outcomes.
so your choices are:
1) you might get an infection, but this machine lowers the chance of brain damage
2) well at LEAST you didnt get an infection!!!

the good news is that ECMO and AutoPulse and other new tech is great changing HOW resuscitation is being looked at.
New post resuscitation protocols are greatly reducing the chances of brain damage.

Now if you can only win the zipcode lottery and live near a hospital ahead of the curve, rather than behind the curve.
2013-05-15 11:47:16 AM
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To help spread the word to doctors and patients alike, Parnia wrote a book earlier this year called The Lazarus Effect.

I have been reading this book.
The parts about the advances in technology and knowledge are amazing.
The parts about out of body experience, not so much.
2013-05-15 09:42:22 AM
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stevarooni: The CPR machine sounds like it could be widely used (portable) with no big troubles (except for cost).  The ECMO sounds very sensitive and prone to risk infection.


"Alive with possible infection" is a lot better state to be in than "dead", typically.  That being said, I'm sure once this gets more widely used in the US, the lawyers will have a field day suing over any of the known side effects..
2013-05-15 09:29:16 AM
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Felgraf: By scary, you mean fark YEAH, SCIENCE!, right?


I'm not entirely sure how good this is. Anyone know what the permanent brain or organ damage percentages are with this method? Even short term deaths usually have a pretty decent chance of reviving someone for a future life of organ issues due to lack of blood flow during the time they were dead. I'd be more afraid of doctors just creating patients with a horrible future life situation than if they simply died.
2013-05-15 09:21:31 AM
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The CPR machine sounds like it could be widely used (portable) with no big troubles (except for cost).  The ECMO sounds very sensitive and prone to risk infection.
2013-05-15 08:13:27 AM
1 votes:
First Hitler, now zombies. THANKS A LOT, YOU UPSIDE-DOWN ASSHOLES
 
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