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2013-05-14 11:41:43 PM
Seriously folks, stop shopping at Walmart. I guarantee you can live within a budget shopping elsewhere- you probably buy a bunch of shiat you don't need, even at Walmart.
 
2013-05-14 11:59:26 PM

coco ebert: Seriously folks, stop shopping at Walmart. I guarantee you can live within a budget shopping elsewhere- you probably buy a bunch of shiat you don't need, even at Walmart.


Based on the clientele at Wal-Mart, you won't get much traction saying that here.
 
2013-05-14 11:59:26 PM

coco ebert: Seriously folks, stop shopping at Walmart. I guarantee you can live within a budget shopping elsewhere- you probably buy a bunch of shiat you don't need, even at Walmart.


B-b-but my Straight Talk Wireless plan makes me feel richer.
 
2013-05-15 12:04:26 AM
Shocking.
 
2013-05-15 12:18:20 AM
I go to walmart about 5 times a week, but only because the other grocery store is closed and I don't plan ahead like I should.

Since I go so often and at the same times, I always see the same employees, and man....they are just a sad lot. I hope I never find myself at retirement age desperate enough for money that I have to work the midnight shift cleaning the floor and not being allowed to work over 30hrs a week.
 
2013-05-15 12:21:28 AM
So I got to the bottom of the article, and saw this:

"Transparency is vital to make progress in improving factory conditions, and by disclosing this information, government, workers, non-governmental agencies, and companies can benefit from this work," Rajan Kamalanathan, Wal-Mart's vice president of ethical sourcing, said in a statement.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOlolololololo...breathe...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOl,.olololo l ool outloud.

Holy sh*t, I can't imagine a more unlikely sounding job title.
 
2013-05-15 12:30:04 AM
I am really, really, really, REALLY surprised at this.


Really.

/seriously people, stop feeding the beast
//shop somewhere else
 
2013-05-15 12:33:13 AM

log_jammin: I go to walmart about 5 times a week, but only because the other grocery store is closed and I don't plan ahead like I should.

Since I go so often and at the same times, I always see the same employees, and man....they are just a sad lot. I hope I never find myself at retirement age desperate enough for money that I have to work the midnight shift cleaning the floor and not being allowed to work over 30hrs a week.


Well, quite a bit of retirement age Wal Mart employees are working because their investments took a giant goddamn dive from 2006-2011.

Yeah, some of them didn't plan, but some of them just got screwed.
 
2013-05-15 12:36:13 AM

coco ebert: Seriously folks, stop shopping at Walmart. I guarantee you can live within a budget shopping elsewhere- you probably buy a bunch of shiat you don't need, even at Walmart.


This. Haven't set foot inside one in almost 2 years now.

Mentat: coco ebert: Seriously folks, stop shopping at Walmart. I guarantee you can live within a budget shopping elsewhere- you probably buy a bunch of shiat you don't need, even at Walmart.

Based on the clientele at Wal-Mart, you won't get much traction saying that here.


This as well, but we can spread the word. A friend brought a lot of this to light for me and I have passed it along as well. It won't happen overnight, but it's worth the effort.
 
2013-05-15 12:36:29 AM
Stay classy, WalMart.

I'd like to think that this is going to be the last straw for a lot of people, but I kind of get the feeling most WalMart customers don't really care about the working conditions "colored folks"/foreigners have to endure.
 
2013-05-15 12:41:45 AM

log_jammin: I go to walmart about 5 times a week, but only because the other grocery store is closed and I don't plan ahead like I should.

Since I go so often and at the same times, I always see the same employees, and man....they are just a sad lot. I hope I never find myself at retirement age desperate enough for money that I have to work the midnight shift cleaning the floor and not being allowed to work over 30hrs a week.


5 times a week the grocery store is closed? Da fuq?
 
2013-05-15 12:42:46 AM
Yes, Lets dump on Walmart. A company that actually does good and improves the lives of Americans
 
2013-05-15 12:44:01 AM

Mazzic518: 5 times a week the grocery store is closed? Da fuq?


Key words were "midnight shift".
 
2013-05-15 12:44:37 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: and improves the lives of Americans


how so?
 
2013-05-15 12:52:47 AM

log_jammin: Mazzic518: 5 times a week the grocery store is closed? Da fuq?

Key words were "midnight shift".


I live in east bumfark and there are at least ha;lf a dozen grocery stores open 24/7 dang...
 
2013-05-15 12:56:24 AM

log_jammin: Mid_mo_mad_man: and improves the lives of Americans

how so?


Just the other day I picked up $20 sneakers that blew out the first wearing.  So, I go back and buy them again. Talk about job security! Got to keep the flow of crap coming.

Plus, peopleofwalmart.com gave my mom good laughs while she was battling cancer.

A sound and patriotic corporation company over all.
 
2013-05-15 12:58:05 AM
I'm actually glad Wal-Mart is doing this. Bangladesh is attacking capitalism because of an accident corporations were blamed for. The guy who owns the complex should take the blame, not Wal-Mart. Because he did not have the sweatshop up to code, he is to blame.
 
2013-05-15 12:58:56 AM

log_jammin: Mid_mo_mad_man: and improves the lives of Americans

how so?


And at the expense of whom?
 
2013-05-15 12:59:07 AM
When I can control where our truck is parked for shopping I'll be glad to stop shopping there. Unfortunately the stupid trucker GPS's have that WalMart button because most allow overnight truck parking. Some places they are the only safe harbor within a couple hours drive. Got maybe 6 more weeks on the road, then I'm settling down and my 18 month of Walmart dependency will end.
 
2013-05-15 12:59:18 AM

Mazzic518: I live in east bumfark and there are at least ha;lf a dozen grocery stores open 24/7 dang...


My town has a population of about 5k. we have a walmart and a price chopper.
 
2013-05-15 12:59:54 AM

djkutch: Just the other day I picked up $20 sneakers that blew out the first wearing.  So, I go back and buy them again. Talk about job security! Got to keep the flow of crap coming.

Plus, peopleofwalmart.com gave my mom good laughs while she was battling cancer.

A sound and patriotic corporation company over all.


you've convinced me.
 
2013-05-15 01:00:29 AM

log_jammin: I go to walmart about 5 times a week, but only because the other grocery store is closed and I don't plan ahead like I should.

Since I go so often and at the same times, I always see the same employees, and man....they are just a sad lot. I hope I never find myself at retirement age desperate enough for money that I have to work the midnight shift cleaning the floor and not being allowed to work over 30hrs a week.


I try to avoid Wal-Mat, not so much for business ethics reasons as much as I just really dislike shopping there.  I have to park way out in the back of the lot because half of the cars in it are beat up old hoopties who's owners wouldn't give a second thought to slamming their door into mine as they open it, or who just leave their carts rolling loose instead of walking the twenty feet to the cart receptacle, and once inside I have to play cart roulette to see if today will be the day when I get the one cart out of 50 that actually has four properly aligned working wheels, and then hope I don't get beaten to the one operating checkout line out of twenty by some lady with two overstuffed grocery carts who then tries to pay with food stamps and has to have the cashier pull half the items off to find out what qualifies and what doesn't.  I always leave feeling like I want to rip my hair out.

The amazing thing is that in a lot of ways Target fills a very similar place in the market, but the parking is well designed, the carts all work well, the store is clean, and the checkout lines are fast and courteously staffed.  If Target was open 24 hours a day I would never darken Wal-Marts doorstep with my presence.  The prices really aren't very different, so I don't know why anyone bothers going to Wal-Mart when Target is open.
 
2013-05-15 01:04:56 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The amazing thing is that in a lot of ways Target fills a very similar place in the market, but the parking is well designed, the carts all work well, the store is clean, and the checkout lines are fast and courteously staffed. If Target was open 24 hours a day I would never darken Wal-Marts doorstep with my presence. The prices really aren't very different, so I don't know why anyone bothers going to Wal-Mart when Target is open.


It is stunning.  Even the customer base is different.  Of the other hand, the off-shift strippers shop Wal-Mart at 3:00 AM if you're into that.
 
2013-05-15 01:08:35 AM
I interviewed for a job at Walmart when I first moved to Canada.
During the interview they wanted us to do the "Walmart cheer"
Honestly reminded me of brainwashing techniques.
 Not csb
 
2013-05-15 01:08:35 AM
Former girlfriend had to bribe me with BJs to get me to go to Wal Mart with her.


Has nothing to do with TFA but I think it makes a nice story.
 
2013-05-15 01:12:23 AM

log_jammin: Mazzic518: I live in east bumfark and there are at least ha;lf a dozen grocery stores open 24/7 dang...

My town has a population of about 5k. we have a walmart and a price chopper.


I'm sorry.... :( I am at a price chopper 5 days a week I know your pain
 
2013-05-15 01:19:25 AM

Mentat: TuteTibiImperes: The amazing thing is that in a lot of ways Target fills a very similar place in the market, but the parking is well designed, the carts all work well, the store is clean, and the checkout lines are fast and courteously staffed. If Target was open 24 hours a day I would never darken Wal-Marts doorstep with my presence. The prices really aren't very different, so I don't know why anyone bothers going to Wal-Mart when Target is open.

It is stunning.  Even the customer base is different.  Of the other hand, the off-shift strippers shop Wal-Mart at 3:00 AM if you're into that.


I prefer dear old Tarzhay myself, but the closest one to me is almost 50 miles away.
 
2013-05-15 01:21:59 AM
Remember the mid to late 20th century when the US was filled with textile factories and unionized garment workers making sturdy clothing and earning enough to support their families?

Good times, good times.
 
2013-05-15 01:36:30 AM

Therion: Remember the mid to late 20th century when the US was filled with textile factories and unionized garment workers making sturdy clothing and earning enough to support their families?


Union Thugs are teh evul zOMG SOOOOOOOOOCIALISM!
 
2013-05-15 01:37:20 AM
More than likely 90% or more of Wal-Mart customers don't care about people who live half a world away that make the items Wal-Mart sells. If the customers do 'care' they don't care enough to pay more for the items. Wal-Mart understands this and therefore won't change. At least they are pretty much honest about it, whereas some companies exploit the same labor markets and put on a happy face about how progressive of a company they are.

/I don't shop at Wal-Mart but can do respect how efficient they run their business.
 
2013-05-15 01:43:05 AM

Lt_Ryan: put on a happy face about how progressive of a company they are.


You're right...WalMart would never do that.

pdxretro.com

:-)
 
2013-05-15 01:44:47 AM
Where I live, Wal-Mart is just good for its selection. It seems to be beaten in price in a good half of its stuff by other chains.

I do have a hankering for some Supertech motor oil though, shiat's a bargain I can't say no to.
 
2013-05-15 01:53:47 AM
I use Wal-Mart for 2things:  pharmacy and Coca-Cola.  Their soda price cannot be beat.
 
2013-05-15 01:53:52 AM
Lt_Ryan:

/I don't shop at Wal-Mart but can do respect how efficient they run their business.

If by "efficient(ly) you mean "without regard for life, safety or human dignity" then I guess they do indeed run their business "efficient(ly)".
That is not worthy of "respect", though. That is worthy of scorn.
 
2013-05-15 01:56:51 AM

rewind2846: Lt_Ryan:

/I don't shop at Wal-Mart but can do respect how efficient they run their business.

If by "efficient(ly) you mean "without regard for life, safety or human dignity" then I guess they do indeed run their business "efficient(ly)".
That is not worthy of "respect", though. That is worthy of scorn.


You know who else ran his business efficiently and without regard for life and human dignity?
 
2013-05-15 01:59:26 AM

il Dottore: Former girlfriend had to bribe me with BJs to get me to go to Wal Mart with her.


Has nothing to do with TFA but I think it makes a nice story.


And that's when you start dumping out any food/drink she leaves around. It's almost a win win. Only real issue would of been if she started really starving herself for eating/drinking to much and getting fat. I mean, she wouldn't immediately jump to that conclusion, might take a comment or two from you. You know, like 'that dress just doesn't fit her.. Not like you, you look amazing in whatever you have on. Oh, you drank all the soda again we need to grab more.'

Of course, after a while that may cut into the beejs, but at that point you can always dump her and let her know your leaving because shes anorexic.
 
2013-05-15 02:03:37 AM

radarlove: rewind2846: Lt_Ryan:

/I don't shop at Wal-Mart but can do respect how efficient they run their business.

If by "efficient(ly) you mean "without regard for life, safety or human dignity" then I guess they do indeed run their business "efficient(ly)".
That is not worthy of "respect", though. That is worthy of scorn.

You know who else ran his business efficiently and without regard for life and human dignity?


Steve Jobs?
 
2013-05-15 02:05:14 AM

radarlove: rewind2846: Lt_Ryan:

/I don't shop at Wal-Mart but can do respect how efficient they run their business.

If by "efficient(ly) you mean "without regard for life, safety or human dignity" then I guess they do indeed run their business "efficient(ly)".
That is not worthy of "respect", though. That is worthy of scorn.

You know who else ran his business efficiently and without regard for life and human dignity?


Henry Ford?
 
2013-05-15 02:08:44 AM
Nothing new.  Walmart has always been anti-union.
 
2013-05-15 02:13:07 AM

Mazzic518: log_jammin: Mazzic518: 5 times a week the grocery store is closed? Da fuq?

Key words were "midnight shift".

I live in east bumfark and there are at least ha;lf a dozen grocery stores open 24/7 dang...


I live in further east bumfark and all the grocery stores close at 10.  The only things open after that: 7/11, Walgreen's, CVS and Walmart.  Take your pick.
 
2013-05-15 02:16:38 AM
From retailers' perspective, tacking "governance and dispute resolution" terms onto a fire & safety agreement is like tacking anti-abortion terms onto an equal-pay bill.
 
2013-05-15 02:26:11 AM

BarkingUnicorn: From retailers' perspective, tacking "governance and dispute resolution" terms onto a fire & safety agreement is like tacking anti-abortion terms onto an equal-pay bill.


It's Bangladesh and the law probably won't be enforceable.  The whole point is PR.  Walmart's customers are primarily rednecks so this decision is good PR.
 
2013-05-15 02:42:51 AM
Good
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2013-05-15 03:29:19 AM

log_jammin: Mid_mo_mad_man: and improves the lives of Americans

how so?




How about the fact that during times of natural disaster ie hurricane Katrina Walmart is there starting relief aid.
 
2013-05-15 03:36:26 AM

TuteTibiImperes: log_jammin: I go to walmart about 5 times a week, but only because the other grocery store is closed and I don't plan ahead like I should.

Since I go so often and at the same times, I always see the same employees, and man....they are just a sad lot. I hope I never find myself at retirement age desperate enough for money that I have to work the midnight shift cleaning the floor and not being allowed to work over 30hrs a week.

I try to avoid Wal-Mat, not so much for business ethics reasons as much as I just really dislike shopping there.  I have to park way out in the back of the lot because half of the cars in it are beat up old hoopties who's owners wouldn't give a second thought to slamming their door into mine as they open it, or who just leave their carts rolling loose instead of walking the twenty feet to the cart receptacle, and once inside I have to play cart roulette to see if today will be the day when I get the one cart out of 50 that actually has four properly aligned working wheels, and then hope I don't get beaten to the one operating checkout line out of twenty by some lady with two overstuffed grocery carts who then tries to pay with food stamps and has to have the cashier pull half the items off to find out what qualifies and what doesn't.  I always leave feeling like I want to rip my hair out.

The amazing thing is that in a lot of ways Target fills a very similar place in the market, but the parking is well designed, the carts all work well, the store is clean, and the checkout lines are fast and courteously staffed.  If Target was open 24 hours a day I would never darken Wal-Marts doorstep with my presence.  The prices really aren't very different, so I don't know why anyone bothers going to Wal-Mart when Target is open.




This is either old copypasta or bullshiat.
As far as I know, no state actually issues food stamps anymore, but instead issues EBT cards, and even if for some reason someplace still did issue paper food stamps, all major grocery/retail stores have systems, or are linked to systems, that tell the POS computer what is and isn't covered by the food assistance program the moment you or the cashier selects that as a payment option.
 
2013-05-15 03:41:38 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: log_jammin: Mid_mo_mad_man: and improves the lives of Americans

how so?

How about the fact that during times of natural disaster ie hurricane Katrina Walmart is there starting relief aid.


lol
 
2013-05-15 03:43:35 AM
And they would gladly bring these working conditions back to the United States if given half a chance.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-05-15 04:46:51 AM
But if walmart goes down people of walmart websites go down, jobs vanish, their advertisers lose money, people afraid to go the store lose out on the culture they would other wise never see,

Close walmart and things might get old testament Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!  Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...The dead rising from the grave!
 Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
 
2013-05-15 05:08:12 AM

coco ebert: Seriously folks, stop shopping at Walmart. I guarantee you can live within a budget shopping elsewhere- you probably buy a bunch of shiat you don't need, even at Walmart.


For me the problem isn't price really, it's that there are some items that are fairly common that I can't find anywhere else but walmart... I mean seriously, how the hell does no other store nearby sell Ballpark cheese dogs? And typically their ethnic isle is far better stocked than other stores. There's a latin grocery at the south end of town that's insanely inexpensive, but it's extremely small and only accepts cash.
 
2013-05-15 05:32:50 AM
I'm no Walmart fan, but yeah. Don't bloat up a fire safety plan with unrelated crap. Did Congress help them write this thing?
 
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