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2013-05-14 07:49:41 PM  

Uncle_Sam's_Titties: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Uncle_Sam's_Titties: I'm calling 'leader' right now for the militia that defends our freshwater against all those southern bastards..

You know, when ignorance combined with global warming causes them to dry up all their lakes and they come a-lookin' for ours.

Ha ha ha.  It's cute the way you think we won't be able to take what we want and leave you with a dusty hole in the ground.   My super soaker.....cold dead hands.

FOR EVERY ONE OF OUR LAKES THAT YOU CAPTURE, WE WILL KILL ONE HUNDRED OF YOUR MEN!!1one


I'm sorry, I didn't quite hear you.  I was in the middle of something.
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2013-05-14 07:54:33 PM  

Uncle_Sam's_Titties: I'm calling 'leader' right now for the militia that defends our freshwater against all those southern bastards..

You know, when ignorance combined with global warming causes them to dry up all their lakes and they come a-lookin' for ours.


One of the reasons I still live here is the freshwater. Soon that will be more valuable than oil.. Muhawahawaha!

That, and I hate the farking desert.
 
2013-05-14 07:54:57 PM  
Supposed to snow here this weekend.  Send some of that hot air this way, willya?
 
2013-05-14 08:03:22 PM  

Mugato: Can someone explain to me the "Algore" as one word thing?


It's a terrorist group, like Al-Qaeda or Al-Gebra.  Being ignorant Americans, we take out the hyphen.
 
2013-05-14 08:03:37 PM  
Just in one day here in Ontario, we got sun, snow, hail, sleet, wind, rain and funnel clouds in the space of minutes.I swear it seemed like that doomed planet in Star Trek 3 the Search for Spock.
 
2013-05-14 08:04:42 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: We almost had a frost in SE PA last night.  Some of that hundred degrees is mine.


While that is true, this has been the best spring, weather-wise we've had here in SE PA in a lonnnng time. It's been spectacular for weeks! 10-day forecast on Weather.com has high temps ranging from 71-79. Awesome!
 
2013-05-14 08:16:01 PM  
It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.
 
2013-05-14 08:19:36 PM  

eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.


What isn't hilarious is that conservatives think that their ignorance and stupidity is just as valid as science and data.
 
2013-05-14 08:20:49 PM  
Cash For Clunkers really fixed the environment.
 
2013-05-14 08:20:51 PM  

Hollie Maea: eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.

What isn't hilarious is that conservatives think that their ignorance and stupidity is just as valid as science and data.


Fantastic counterpoint. Exactly what science and data, now?
 
2013-05-14 08:31:03 PM  

eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.


By whom?
 
2013-05-14 08:37:36 PM  
I understand why the oil companies and everyone else who has a vested financial interest in ignoring virtually the entire scientific community regarding  global warming but why do the rest of the shiat kickin' hick republicans say it's bullshiat? Just partisan loyalty?
 
2013-05-14 08:49:30 PM  

theknuckler_33: eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.

By whom?


By every member of the media that is making this a story, and by every "see I told ya so" follower in this thread. There are many more of your type out there.

Gotta hand it to you guys as far as political strategy. Just simply never, ever admit that you're wrong, not even a little bit. Then blame your opponents for being stupid and ignorant.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-14 08:50:10 PM  

180IQ: Mugato: Can someone explain to me the "Algore" as one word thing?

It's a terrorist group, like Al-Qaeda or Al-Gebra.  Being ignorant Americans, we take out the hyphen.


Yes, and it is spread through the use of the Algorerhythm
 
2013-05-14 08:50:51 PM  

Mugato: I understand why the oil companies and everyone else who has a vested financial interest in ignoring virtually the entire scientific community regarding  global warming but why do the rest of the shiat kickin' hick republicans say it's bullshiat? Just partisan loyalty?


Environmentalists = tree-huggers = dirty liberal hippies. Rush told them so.
 
2013-05-14 08:55:52 PM  

eatin' fetus: Hollie Maea: eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.

What isn't hilarious is that conservatives think that their ignorance and stupidity is just as valid as science and data.

Fantastic counterpoint. Exactly what science and data, now?


Are you seriously claiming that you know of no scientific evidence of global warming?
 
2013-05-14 08:55:53 PM  

Mugato: I understand why the oil companies and everyone else who has a vested financial interest in ignoring virtually the entire scientific community regarding  global warming but why do the rest of the shiat kickin' hick republicans say it's bullshiat? Just partisan loyalty?


they are people of the common clay....

padresteve.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-14 08:56:06 PM  
back to normal weather pattern

it was hotter in 1878 than it was in 2008 and 1938
 
2013-05-14 08:56:34 PM  

revrendjim: Mugato: I understand why the oil companies and everyone else who has a vested financial interest in ignoring virtually the entire scientific community regarding  global warming but why do the rest of the shiat kickin' hick republicans say it's bullshiat? Just partisan loyalty?

Environmentalists = tree-huggers = dirty liberal hippies. Rush told them so.


You two seem to really to really jump at the chance to ostracize and dehumanize your perceived opponents. Tolerance is understanding other people's beliefs, even if they are not your own, without making baseless judgements on their worth and intelligence.

Are the Democrats of old making their comeback?
 
2013-05-14 08:57:03 PM  

eatin' fetus: Fantastic counterpoint. Exactly what science and data, now?


www.mattbors.com
 
2013-05-14 08:57:13 PM  

NFA: Weather, how does it work???


It works as a function of climate, actually.
 
2013-05-14 08:57:53 PM  

prjindigo: back to normal weather pattern

it was hotter in 1878 than it was in 2008 and 1938


Interesting cherry picking.
 
2013-05-14 09:01:30 PM  

eatin' fetus: theknuckler_33: eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.

By whom?

By every member of the media that is making this a story, and by every "see I told ya so" follower in this thread. There are many more of your type out there.

Gotta hand it to you guys as far as political strategy. Just simply never, ever admit that you're wrong, not even a little bit. Then blame your opponents for being stupid and ignorant.


Just as I figured. Congratulations slaying that strawman.
 
2013-05-14 09:03:47 PM  
I live in western Washington.  If this is what global warming is like all I have to say is


WOOOOHOOOOOO!  Keep it coming and who cares what happens to the rest of the country.
 
2013-05-14 09:08:11 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: prjindigo: back to normal weather pattern

it was hotter in 1878 than it was in 2008 and 1938

Interesting cherry picking.


I'm in Minneapolis. The record high for today was 95° in 1932. Was. Today it hit 98°.
 
2013-05-14 09:08:48 PM  
There was frost on the grass here in MD this morning, and I don't think we've had even a handful of days yet this year where it's broken 80F.

Which is kinda nice, given that I'm *still* cutting up fallen trees from last summer's derecho. I hope to have it all done before the weather gets to it's normal "95+F and sweaty as Satan's nads" MD summer phase.


Central states, do not start inflicting your stupid weather on us. You would not like our hurricanes.
 
2013-05-14 09:11:13 PM  

revrendjim: eatin' fetus: Hollie Maea: eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.

What isn't hilarious is that conservatives think that their ignorance and stupidity is just as valid as science and data.

Fantastic counterpoint. Exactly what science and data, now?

Are you seriously claiming that you know of no scientific evidence of global warming?


I know about scientific evidence. Keep in mind that the climate change issue is a scientific theory, not necessarily a fact.

Let me ask you, what is faith? In the frame of religion, it is to blindly believe in something despite anyone telling you otherwise or any evidence to the contrary, right? It is a complete devotion to a concept no matter who says what about it.

Tell me then, what is the difference between faith in a science theory and faith in a religion? They are not mutually exclusive, both have been proven wrong numerous times. One can believe in bits of both. Both have influenced mankind in immeasurable ways. Why are such bitter sides taken on things that we won't live long enough to prove?

Because I am right, and you are wrong. And we aren't going to have a good conversation about this.
 
2013-05-14 09:14:16 PM  

theknuckler_33: eatin' fetus: theknuckler_33: eatin' fetus: It's hilarious that when global warming doesn't seem to be happening at all, conservatives are loudly told that its all about climate changes over time and that the whole issue is way too complex for them to understand. Yet, common late spring/early summer temperature fluctuations based on pressure gradients are offered as absolute proof of global warming.

By whom?

By every member of the media that is making this a story, and by every "see I told ya so" follower in this thread. There are many more of your type out there.

Gotta hand it to you guys as far as political strategy. Just simply never, ever admit that you're wrong, not even a little bit. Then blame your opponents for being stupid and ignorant.

Just as I figured. Congratulations slaying that strawman.


Yea I'm not convinced you understood all the words in that sentence you just said.

But thanks. Your straw man was so expertly placed, it's no wonder I couldn't see it. I bet you're laughing pretty hard right now about how much of a dumb ass I am.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-14 09:20:15 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: prjindigo: back to normal weather pattern

it was hotter in 1878 than it was in 2008 and 1938

Interesting cherry picking.


OK, so here's the thing:
When you view the weather on earth as a purely statistical and numeric value, remove all emotion and bias, and proceed to produce statistic trends only on the math much if not all of global warming becomes an unproven and small bump in the smoothline of it all.

As an exercise I used an EWMA calculation (for short-term and daily temps) and regressed it against a long-term calculation via a Shewart style calculation chart (which is more useful for non-process-mean numbers and is more suited to expressing larger deltas in a QC-esque manner).
Lacking the time, money, and computing cluster to feed all temps ever recorded into for a transform and a resultant output I will however say that the numbers for the period I fed in did not set off alarms (visually comparing YOY and YAY deltas).

I will admit, I am viewing it all as dead-simple numbers and have little or no atmospheric/meteorologic training so that may in fact color the entire transaction.
Not sure, no data to go on as far as that goes.

In short, many here like to spout off about "the science!", but likely have no damned idea how that really works.
Then, there are us engineers who typically sit by quietly and chuckle at the ignorance of most people where large-number calculations are concerned.
We choose to sit by because when we speak up BOTH sides get sand in their collective reproductive canals, as-it-were. And that is tiresome.

Just a guy who knows science/numbers/that-kinda-crapola

/ymmv
 
2013-05-14 09:22:02 PM  
By the time I got out of work it was cloudy and there was a nice breeze, so it wasn't too bad.  Seriously though, if we could have a few weeks of 70's in Omaha that would be awesome.
 
2013-05-14 09:25:17 PM  

BitwiseShift: Today, it hit 100º. THANKS, OBAMA

Ohama - Omaha
Obama - Omaba

Just divided by zero.


Subby was just tired.

/with tired headline
 
2013-05-14 09:26:16 PM  

gja: When you view the weather on earth as a purely statistical and numeric value, remove all emotion and bias, and proceed to produce statistic trends only on the math much if not all of global warming becomes an unproven and small bump in the smoothline of it all.


In what respect, charlie? What degree of warming would you consider a "small bump"? Keep in mind that a very very small change in the average temperature induces a change in the climate.

Perhaps it is YOU who does not understand the science here.
 
2013-05-14 09:26:17 PM  
uckler_33 * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-05-14 08:04:42 PM Marcus Aurelius: We almost had a frost in SE PA last night. Some of that hundred degrees is mine. While that is true, this has been the best spring, weather-wise we've had here in SE PA in a lonnnng time. It's been spectacular for weeks! 10-day forecast on Weather.com has high temps ranging from 71-79. Awesome!
========================================================

Here in Cleveland, everyone biatched about how cold it was this April... based on the highs and averages reported by accuweather... we were actually 0.6 degrees ABOVE average. (Essentially, exactly average).

After the disgustingly hot Spring (technically still winter) last year... people forgot what normal spring is like.
 
2013-05-14 09:33:51 PM  
eatin' fetus:


What isn't hilarious is that conservatives think that their ignorance and stupidity is just as valid as science and data.

Fantastic counterpoint. Exactly what science and data, now?

Are you seriously claiming that you know of no scientific evidence of global warming?

I know about scientific evidence. Keep in mind that the climate change issue is a scientific theory, not necessarily a fact.

Let me ask you, what is faith? In the frame of religion, it is to blindly believe in something despite anyone telling you otherwise or any evidence to the contrary, right? It is a complete devotion to a concept no matter who says what about it.

Tell me then, what is the difference between faith in a science theory and faith in a religion? They are not mutually exclusive, both have been proven wrong numerous times. One can believe in bits of both. Both have influenced mankind in immeasurable ways. Why are such bitter sides taken on things that we won't live long enough to prove?


So, basically... The opinion of a random person has just as much weight as someone who has studied the problem? Say, Jenny McCarthy's strongly-held opinion carries as much weight for you as collected, published, and cross-checked data?

You're assuming that science and religion operate under the same requirements. They don't, and saying as much makes one sound like a college kid who just discovered philosophy.

No one talks of "believing in" probability theory, general relativity, Boyle's law, or the the Pythagorean Theorem. Those can be checked and cross-checked by anyone interested with sufficient wit and interest. They're not things that sprung whole from one source and otherwise exist in a vacuum.

Religion doesn't operate under the same system.

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

Whether or not you *believe* that Asimov quote applies to anthropogenic climate change, you are doing exactly what he described by equating the scientific method with theology.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-14 09:39:17 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: gja: When you view the weather on earth as a purely statistical and numeric value, remove all emotion and bias, and proceed to produce statistic trends only on the math much if not all of global warming becomes an unproven and small bump in the smoothline of it all.

In what respect, charlie? What degree of warming would you consider a "small bump"? Keep in mind that a very very small change in the average temperature induces a change in the climate.

Perhaps it is YOU who does not understand the science here.


Cameron, you ARE a galactic-class idiot. What degrees do you have you half-cooked egg?
You need to walk a WORLD of road before you can EVER hope to be near my level of understanding where science and engineering are concerned.
You are just another ignorant youth that thinks us old men aren't as smart as you young dudes. You are ALL wrong.

FTR, a small bump is a less that .25%dev YOY or a .215 YAY using an EWMA imposed on a LTR style chart for the 5/10/20/50/100 Y calcs.
Resultant deltas express a LESS than .75o dev, that doesn't seem too large and is not what many of the global warming proponents are claiming has happened. When viewed as a raw # calc versus verified sample size most statisticians would conclude the currently utilized sample is in sufficient to produce unimpeachable an fully vetted scientific conclusion on.

Now do you see where some might have a problem? Or did I use to many "big" words again?
 
2013-05-14 09:49:42 PM  

maxheck: eatin' fetus:


What isn't hilarious is that conservatives think that their ignorance and stupidity is just as valid as science and data.

Fantastic counterpoint. Exactly what science and data, now?

Are you seriously claiming that you know of no scientific evidence of global warming?

I know about scientific evidence. Keep in mind that the climate change issue is a scientific theory, not necessarily a fact.

Let me ask you, what is faith? In the frame of religion, it is to blindly believe in something despite anyone telling you otherwise or any evidence to the contrary, right? It is a complete devotion to a concept no matter who says what about it.

Tell me then, what is the difference between faith in a science theory and faith in a religion? They are not mutually exclusive, both have been proven wrong numerous times. One can believe in bits of both. Both have influenced mankind in immeasurable ways. Why are such bitter sides taken on things that we won't live long enough to prove?

So, basically... The opinion of a random person has just as much weight as someone who has studied the problem? Say, Jenny McCarthy's strongly-held opinion carries as much weight for you as collected, published, and cross-checked data?

You're assuming that science and religion operate under the same requirements. They don't, and saying as much makes one sound like a college kid who just discovered philosophy.

No one talks of "believing in" probability theory, general relativity, Boyle's law, or the the Pythagorean Theorem. Those can be checked and cross-checked by anyone interested with sufficient wit and interest. They're not things that sprung whole from one source and otherwise exist in a vacuum.

Religion doesn't operate under the same system.

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democra ...


So scientific method should always trump over theology?

Or do you have lingering doubts about science, much like most people do about religion; despite the strength of either of their beliefs? I might even go so far as to say that science is the process of questioning and building upon assumed beliefs. Science, by its nature, must doubt itself to continue, right?

Is religion any different? It struggles to reinforce its own dogma against new beliefs. Religions change, too.

Of course, climate change is not a religious argument, but a purely scientific argument mixed with a lot of invested politics. That takes a whole bunch of scientific method off of the table, much like the Catholic Church and their scandals being conveniently swept under the rug -- this all due to influence of money and power.

What is belief? It is faith. Faith is only what you want it to be, and nothing else. This holds true in these situations where there is so little to support an argument, yet so much apparent support.

It appears you and I are back to square one now, which was exactly the point I was illustrating. I think climate change is a bunch of bullhockey meant to influence voters and get fundraising money. What do you think about the religious right?
 
2013-05-14 09:49:58 PM  

edmo: verbaltoxin: Ain't global warming fun?

This was never a problem until Al Gore mentioned it.


Didn't he invent the Internet?
 
2013-05-14 09:50:36 PM  

gja: Cameron, you ARE a galactic-class idiot. What degrees do you have you half-cooked egg?


So much for dispassionately looking at data, eh? What got you so riled up? Could it be that you can't defend your point on merit and thus feel the need to call me names?

I'm not even going to read the rest of the post. You claimed you could look at the numbers without emotion and clearly you lied.
 
2013-05-14 09:55:18 PM  

mtlls: Welcome to Nebraska!


Colorado, it would be more like two days.
 
2013-05-14 09:56:04 PM  
Whoa, boys, everyone just backup here. We gots ourself an ENGINEER here and he dun checked the numbers hisself!
 
2013-05-14 09:56:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: gja: Cameron, you ARE a galactic-class idiot. What degrees do you have you half-cooked egg?

So much for dispassionately looking at data, eh? What got you so riled up? Could it be that you can't defend your point on merit and thus feel the need to call me names?

I'm not even going to read the rest of the post. You claimed you could look at the numbers without emotion and clearly you lied.


I read the whole thing -- it appears he's trying to gain your acceptance.
 
2013-05-14 10:01:53 PM  

chuggernaught: By the time I got out of work it was cloudy and there was a nice breeze, so it wasn't too bad.  Seriously though, if we could have a few weeks of 70's in Omaha that would be awesome.


You can, just as long as you're not picky about whether they are lows, highs or wind speeds.
 
2013-05-14 10:02:54 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Last night was the first time since September that I didn't have to turn on the pellet stove. For the last several years, we've been getting our last snowstorms in May, but the summers have been getting hotter, drier, and shorter. The whole Phoenix heat island has permanently affected our climate up here in the mountains. It's all kinds of farked up.


Still beats living IN Phoenix.

/Flagstaff ftw
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-14 10:06:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: gja: Cameron, you ARE a galactic-class idiot. What degrees do you have you half-cooked egg?

So much for dispassionately looking at data, eh? What got you so riled up? Could it be that you can't defend your point on merit and thus feel the need to call me names?

I'm not even going to read the rest of the post. You claimed you could look at the numbers without emotion and clearly you lied.


Good. I get pissed at YOU, not the numbers. Numbers never lie. Sadly you cannot grasp that concept. GO blog and drink beer, that should work out great for a job. I am not "riled up" LOL, I just detest willfully obtuse ignorance.

FACT: the current dataset available to man as a race for numeric calculation of a rationalized and normalized analysis of temperatures is likely insufficient to conclusively prove beyond ANY question (via hard scientific methodology) a trend that clearly manages target deltas for earth temps as a true trend.
We need more years, which we simply do not have. 1878 was the first year somewhat organized collection began via Army personnel, and 1890 was when dedicated folks collecting weather values were commenced.
Considering the assertion of global warming is being put forward as a 'life-cycle' change the overlay of known lifetime for earth inception so significantly dwarfs the available dataset as to make it a questionable source.

You are free to disagree, but that would indicate you have already decided you are smarter than ALL the rest of the scientific community, and that is hubris.
I don't claim to be a meteorologist but I understand stats and calcs and datasets very clearly, and I am still for someone to supply some unimpeachable sources and outcomes.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-14 10:08:32 PM  

Hollie Maea: Whoa, boys, everyone just backup here. We gots ourself an ENGINEER here and he dun checked the numbers hisself!


Never said that. Try actually READING posts before being (or attempting to be) funny.
 
2013-05-14 10:13:28 PM  
eatin' fetus:

So scientific method should always trump over theology?

The difference being that with science you have to show that your ideas match the reality we all live in. Religion not so much. One good observation or theory can, and has pretty often has happened to overturn a whole body of scientific dogma, religion not so much... Otherwise everyone would be jewish. Or maybe Og-Ish, I don't know.

You can check things with the scientific method. Fourier and Ahrrennus showed the correspondence between atmospheric CO2 concentration and infrared forcing with their work, and a reasonably clever grade-schooler could make an experiment that checked that today, 100 years ago, or 100 years from now at a science fair.

Try that with counting angels dancing on the head of a pin.... As you said, you won't live long enough to answer that question,.

I realize why it's useful to label science and religion as equally valid. It's BSABSVR. The difference being, with one you have to show your work.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-14 10:21:59 PM  

maxheck: The difference being, with one you have to show your work.


THIS is why science can be used to save ourselves. And I mean that in a literal sense, not in an altruistic sense.

But the science needs to be clean/pure, not rushed to conclusion and needs to be very well examined.

I worry this has not truly happened in the vein of this threads matter of discussion.

Neither, though, am I of the mind GW is not possibly real, just worry we might be seeing it from a poorly defined angle and thus proceeding improperly.
 
2013-05-14 10:28:36 PM  

Mugato: ginkor: Algore is like the new Jack Frost

Can someone explain to me the "Algore" as one word thing? It comes off as some Oxi-induced typo that Rush Limbaugh made that all his acolytes glommed onto.


It was a bit that Rush did in the 90's with Count Taxula and Algore.  It was a mesh of monster characters and from that point on Al Gore would always be known as Algore.
 
2013-05-14 10:30:16 PM  
Igor (Algore) from Frankenstein was Taxula's assistant.
 
2013-05-14 10:33:31 PM  

gja: But the science needs to be clean/pure, not rushed to conclusion and needs to be very well examined.


Agreed.

But you have to make sure you are clear on which path is "action" and which path is "inaction".  The ACTION is burning millions of years worth of sequestered carbon over the span of a couple of hundred years.

Do you trust the science enough to try that little experiment?
 
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