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(Washington Times)   The sheriff is going to have to deal with Robin Hood and his band. We can't have those miscreants feeding parking meters   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 199
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2013-05-14 03:05:37 PM  
I thought feeding expired meters was illegal anyway, because one of their purposes, in addition to raising revenue, was to limit parking time in commercial areas to 2 hours to "give other people a chance" to shop or somesuch stuff.
 
2013-05-14 03:06:34 PM  
Of course, I could also be completely full of shiat. That actually happened once, believe it or not.
 
2013-05-14 03:15:51 PM  

show me: Of course, I could also be completely full of shiat. That actually happened once, believe it or not.


It's up to each city. The fact that they haven't written any tickets to these people, and their only course of action has been a lawsuit for "harassment" probably means what they're doing isn't illegal, it's just highly frowned upon by the people who count money.
 
2013-05-14 03:16:47 PM  
Feeding the meter, great!

Harassing the meter readers, you're a jerk.
 
2013-05-14 03:16:59 PM  

show me: I thought feeding expired meters was illegal anyway, because one of their purposes, in addition to raising revenue, was to limit parking time in commercial areas to 2 hours to "give other people a chance" to shop or somesuch stuff.


Yeah, I'm kinda torn.  I like the gesture... but indeed, the point of parking meters is really just to limit parking to people that only need to be in the area for a short time.  Otherwise, find a parking garage.
 
2013-05-14 03:18:06 PM  
The way I see it, is that a parking ticket for an expired meter is a punishment for not giving the government its money within a specified time (on an hourly basis)...so...Even if a local ordnance gets passed, I suspect that it would get struck down on a county or state level because other people are effectively giving money to the government for free (feeding the meter) on your behalf.

By choosing to park in a spot that has a meter, you are effectively choosing to be in debt to the government (yes, the debt is satisfied the moment you feed the meter thereby granting you permission to temporally borrow said parking spot...), and there is no law on the books that prevents one person from paying another's debt owed to the government.

This complaining from city officials and Union folk on this matter is the equivalent of the police charging you with obstruction of justice for letting people know that there is a speed trap a mile a head.  Yeah, I know most municipalities have taken petty traffic law punishments from a criminal matter to a civil matter for specific legal purposes, but at the end of the day, it is against the law to park in a spot with a meter and not pay...these "Robin Hood" folk are merley helping prevent crime.

Now as to the harassment of the meter maids...well, they need to grow up and leave them alone.  That's like yelling at an cashier for the price of something...they have nothing to do with it...
 
2013-05-14 03:19:09 PM  

EvilEgg: Feeding the meter, great!

Harassing the meter readers, you're a jerk.


In a redlit article, the "harassment" amounted to one of them telling the meter maid Linda, "Hey Linda, guess what you won't be doing today...writing tickets!"

That was a direct quote from Linda. If that's the worst harassment she can think of, I doubt it's a very credible claim.
 
2013-05-14 03:26:08 PM  

scottydoesntknow: EvilEgg: Feeding the meter, great!

Harassing the meter readers, you're a jerk.

In a redlit article, the "harassment" amounted to one of them telling the meter maid Linda, "Hey Linda, guess what you won't be doing today...writing tickets!"

That was a direct quote from Linda. If that's the worst harassment she can think of, I doubt it's a very credible claim.


Not only that, but they videotaped all the encounters.  I'm assuming they did that specifically to counter any legal argument that they were "harassing" Lovely Rita.
 
2013-05-14 03:39:01 PM  

dittybopper: scottydoesntknow: EvilEgg: Feeding the meter, great!

Harassing the meter readers, you're a jerk.

In a redlit article, the "harassment" amounted to one of them telling the meter maid Linda, "Hey Linda, guess what you won't be doing today...writing tickets!"

That was a direct quote from Linda. If that's the worst harassment she can think of, I doubt it's a very credible claim.

Not only that, but they videotaped all the encounters.  I'm assuming they did that specifically to counter any legal argument that they were "harassing" Lovely Rita.


Be wary of video tape, it lies.  That being said, if the quote is the sum total of the harassment Linda needs to get over it.

I doubt Linda gets any personal joy from writing tickets.
 
2013-05-14 03:44:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: show me: Of course, I could also be completely full of shiat. That actually happened once, believe it or not.

It's up to each city. The fact that they haven't written any tickets to these people, and their only course of action has been a lawsuit for "harassment" probably means what they're doing isn't illegal, it's just highly frowned upon by the people who count money.


In some cities it absolutely will get you ticketed if you feed someone else's meter - and claiming it's your car won't always work, because you need to physically move your car to another block (down the block/across the street apparently isn't good enough) once your 2 hours is up.

I always thought a "2 hour limit" meant that's the max allotment you can buy from a meter at any given time, but it actually means "You can park here for as long as 2 hours. After that, you don't have to go home, but you can't park here." Which is not made clear anywhere on any signage I've ever seen.

// though in DC, one sign will often disagree with another on the same pole
 
2013-05-14 03:46:14 PM  
They'll just do what some towns here in Arizona have done: triple the fines for speeding tickets. Since there are no parking meters, a simple speeding ticket in Pinetop-Lakeside, Arizona is almost $400 now, same for running a yellow, I mean red, light.
 
2013-05-14 04:07:30 PM  

EvilEgg: Be wary of video tape, it lies.


So do government employees.  And Robin Hoods, for that matter.  But if I'm sitting in a jury box, and the video tape says one thing and the government employee says something different, guess which one I'm going to believe, especially if the video tape corroborates the Robin Hood side of the story.
 
2013-05-14 04:48:15 PM  
"including profanities and derogatory statements relative to his military service."

I bet she was in the coast guard.
 
2013-05-14 04:56:11 PM  
It's always cute when authority figures get upset when you start doing to them what they do to you.
 
2013-05-14 04:57:23 PM  

vudukungfu: "including profanities and derogatory statements relative to his military service."

I bet she was in the coast guard.


They said "MILITARY."

If the Coast Guard is military, then so are the Boy Scouts.
 
2013-05-14 04:58:02 PM  

downstairs: show me: I thought feeding expired meters was illegal anyway, because one of their purposes, in addition to raising revenue, was to limit parking time in commercial areas to 2 hours to "give other people a chance" to shop or somesuch stuff.

Yeah, I'm kinda torn.  I like the gesture... but indeed, the point of parking meters is really just to limit parking to people that only need to be in the area for a short time.  Otherwise, find a parking garage.


This is only for big cities.
In college towns, you get tons of metered streets and lots and limited time parking just to drum up revenue for the city/school.
They also like to say- "you can't park here after 5pm", but the city allows 8 people to be shafted for rent, and live in one house, and then will ticket for parking in the street after 10pm, because of the "possibility of snow".
 
2013-05-14 04:58:30 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: vudukungfu: "including profanities and derogatory statements relative to his military service."

I bet she was in the coast guard.

They said "MILITARY."

If the Coast Guard is military, then so are the Boy Scouts.


Don't insult the Boy Scouts.  Please use the ROTC instead.
 
2013-05-14 04:59:31 PM  
A case of people being stupidly helpful.  It's a cute idea at face value, until you need a meter in a retail district that some clown has been parked at all day.
 
2013-05-14 04:59:35 PM  

Endive Wombat: By choosing to park in a spot that has a meter, you are effectively choosing to be in debt to the government


That's a ridiculous definition of the word "debt".
 
2013-05-14 05:01:27 PM  
They should just put in one of the fancier pre-pay systems.
 
2013-05-14 05:01:28 PM  

vudukungfu: "including profanities and derogatory statements relative to his military service."

I bet she was in the coast guard.


No one has anything bad to say about the Coast Guard.

ecmoRandomNumbers:

They said "MILITARY."

If the Coast Guard is military, then so are the Boy Scouts.


Any other time than a declared war, the Coast guard has more dangerous missions than any other branch.  All those drug interdictions, boater rescues, ship boarding and various other hijinks they get up to?  Serious business.

Especially putting around on those tiny little boats they have.  At least navy ships have the advantage of being so big and bloody heavy they can escape the majority of the ocean motion.
 
2013-05-14 05:02:15 PM  

space1999: Endive Wombat: By choosing to park in a spot that has a meter, you are effectively choosing to be in debt to the government

That's a ridiculous definition of the word "debt".


Technically it's accurate. Incurred costs which have not yet been paid.
 
2013-05-14 05:02:29 PM  

fluffy2097: ecmoRandomNumbers: vudukungfu: "including profanities and derogatory statements relative to his military service."

I bet she was in the coast guard.

They said "MILITARY."

If the Coast Guard is military, then so are the Boy Scouts.

Don't insult the Boy Scouts.  Please use the ROTC instead.


Yeah, I feel sorry for the ones that get fondled by their non-gay leaders.
 
2013-05-14 05:03:48 PM  

Ker_Thwap: A case of people being stupidly helpful.  It's a cute idea at face value, until you need a meter in a retail district that some clown has been parked at all day.


Not sure if serious problem.... Having to park by an official city building, maybe, but retail? You can't go buy someplace else?
 
2013-05-14 05:04:21 PM  
Up here it was the "Parking Fairies" fighting against the overzealous Parking Authority.

Old news article

And they won.  The Parking Authority was eventually disbanded.  In 1997, IIRC.

/it came back...
 
2013-05-14 05:06:19 PM  
I hope he cuts their hearts out with a spoon.
 
2013-05-14 05:06:35 PM  

fluffy2097: ecmoRandomNumbers: vudukungfu: "including profanities and derogatory statements relative to his military service."

I bet she was in the coast guard.

They said "MILITARY."

If the Coast Guard is military, then so are the Boy Scouts.

Don't insult the Boy Scouts.  Please use the ROTC instead.


Coast Guard counts as a military service

During war time, they report to the Department of Defense

/former Navy
 
2013-05-14 05:06:52 PM  

EvilEgg: Feeding the meter, great!

Harassing the meter readers, you're a jerk.


It's not as if we are personally culpable for the choices we make, right? Every meter reader I've ever met was an officious dickbag that loved writing tickets. They have a pretty easy job and they get to ruin other people's afternoon, that's what makes them so happy to do it - schaudenfreude. Someone else has a good time preventing them from doing it, suddenly it's boo hoo hoo, why are people so mean to me. All I do is cost them a ton of money for no good reason.

And as for the 2 hour limit, if I am parked there for 3 hours it's because I was DOING SOMETHING FOR THREE HOURS. I don't need to waste time moving my car a block and potentially not finding a space.
 
2013-05-14 05:07:19 PM  

farkingismybusiness: I hope he cuts their hearts out with a spoon.


In Alan Rickman's voice, no less. Hats off to you, Sir Ruffian.
 
2013-05-14 05:07:49 PM  

farkingismybusiness: I hope he cuts their heartds out with a spoon off.


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2013-05-14 05:08:35 PM  

show me: I thought feeding expired meters was illegal anyway, because one of their purposes, in addition to raising revenue, was to limit parking time in commercial areas to 2 hours to "give other people a chance" to shop or somesuch stuff.


That's the answer you get in Seattle...
 
2013-05-14 05:11:21 PM  
Coast Guard is military, guys.

And good for the Robin Hoods. Apparently the parking nazis in that town of 23,000 are real pricks if a volunteer group springs up to foil them.
 
2013-05-14 05:11:23 PM  
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REVENUE!  DON'T BE F*CKIN' WITH MY REVENUE!
 
2013-05-14 05:11:28 PM  

Ker_Thwap: A case of people being stupidly helpful.  It's a cute idea at face value, until you need a meter in a retail district that some clown has been parked at all day.


What if the owner of the car comes and plugs the meter every 2 hours? That's perfectly legal, even if the meter maid sees them show up every hour and 58 minutes.
 
2013-05-14 05:11:29 PM  

tlars699: Ker_Thwap: A case of people being stupidly helpful.  It's a cute idea at face value, until you need a meter in a retail district that some clown has been parked at all day.

Not sure if serious problem.... Having to park by an official city building, maybe, but retail? You can't go buy someplace else?


the point of the meters is not to provide employees with a place to park, allowing them to come out all day and feed the meter, it is to allow the customers to come to the stores, in most of these places if you are there past 2 hours, you probably aren't just shopping, in which case, find a more long term parking solution like a garage or lot.
 
2013-05-14 05:11:36 PM  

Dr Dreidel: scottydoesntknow: show me: Of course, I could also be completely full of shiat. That actually happened once, believe it or not.

It's up to each city. The fact that they haven't written any tickets to these people, and their only course of action has been a lawsuit for "harassment" probably means what they're doing isn't illegal, it's just highly frowned upon by the people who count money.

In some cities it absolutely will get you ticketed if you feed someone else's meter - and claiming it's your car won't always work, because you need to physically move your car to another block (down the block/across the street apparently isn't good enough) once your 2 hours is up.

I always thought a "2 hour limit" meant that's the max allotment you can buy from a meter at any given time, but it actually means "You can park here for as long as 2 hours. After that, you don't have to go home, but you can't park here." Which is not made clear anywhere on any signage I've ever seen.

// though in DC, one sign will often disagree with another on the same pole


Over here it's illegal to pay for 'extra' time no matter who pays it. You get a max of 2 or 4 hours (depending on the area).

If the max is 2 hours and you only pay for 1 hour and then later decide to stay for another hour, tough, you have to move the car at least a few blocks away and look for another parking space. There are parts of the west end where you have to move the car at least out of the zone (which could be over a 1/4 to 1/2 mile away).

In my area, they take photos of you car and scan your displayed ticket (with the time when it was bought and when it expires) and it gets logged in. Buy another ticket for your parking and they hit you with a fine. Not cheap at £100 per fine.

Feeding the machine? Instant ticket.

I have zero sympathy for people who get tickets this way because they turned up late to get their car. If you don't want a parking ticket, either pay up for the max allowed parking time or move your car before your time expires... It's not rocket science.
 
2013-05-14 05:13:34 PM  

robbiex0r: What if the owner of the car comes and plugs the meter every 2 hours? That's perfectly legal, even if the meter maid sees them show up every hour and 58 minutes.


In some cities the meter maids mark the ground and your tire with chalk. If the chalk marks line up, you get a ticket, even if you feed the meter.
 
2013-05-14 05:13:37 PM  

downstairs: Yeah, I'm kinda torn. I like the gesture... but indeed, the point of parking meters is really just to limit parking to people that only need to be in the area for a short time. Otherwise, find a parking garage.


The "gayborhood" near me has no parking garages. It only has its bars, restaurants, clubs, and shops. Each plaza jealously guards its precious few parking spaces, and they'll all have guards posted around the parking lot to watch for people who try to park there without using one of that plaza's establishments (not to watch for any actual crime though). There are probably 20 public parking spots overall, which are hidden and purely word-of-mouth and fill up very quick on a busy night. Bunches of meters which are 24/7. No point to them except to glean the ticket money off people who run 3 minutes over their meter time. A friend of mine got harassed by a meter maid because his drunken self was feeling generous and feeding some meters on a Friday night. Frigging stupid.
 
2013-05-14 05:13:40 PM  

EvilEgg: Feeding the meter, great!

Harassing the meter readers, you're a jerk.


Yeah.

But let me also add, in connection to other posts: making it illegal to feed someone else's meter means you are a jerk.  And putting short limits on how long a meter can run also makes you a jerk.
 
2013-05-14 05:15:58 PM  
I don't know what to think... I mean, I guess it's well-intentioned, but is that the best use of charitable money and time?  Some of the beneficiaries might be quite wealthy, others might have knowingly blown off the meter, taking their chances on not getting caught.  You could buy some lunches or mosquito nets or something with that money.
 
2013-05-14 05:16:12 PM  
If you're depending on operating revenue being generated from parking meters,
you're gonna have a bad day
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2013-05-14 05:16:23 PM  

king_nacho: tlars699: Ker_Thwap: A case of people being stupidly helpful.  It's a cute idea at face value, until you need a meter in a retail district that some clown has been parked at all day.

Not sure if serious problem.... Having to park by an official city building, maybe, but retail? You can't go buy someplace else?

the point of the meters is not to provide employees with a place to park, allowing them to come out all day and feed the meter, it is to allow the customers to come to the stores, in most of these places if you are there past 2 hours, you probably aren't just shopping, in which case, find a more long term parking solution like a garage or lot.


Why can't the business provide the employees a better place to park, or instructions that they must park here*?
*here being a block away, oh noes! The walkings!
 
2013-05-14 05:16:32 PM  

farkingismybusiness: I hope he cuts their hearts out with a spoon.


Why a spoon, farkingismybusiness? Why not an axe?
 
2013-05-14 05:16:35 PM  

Dr Dreidel: scottydoesntknow: show me: Of course, I could also be completely full of shiat. That actually happened once, believe it or not.

It's up to each city. The fact that they haven't written any tickets to these people, and their only course of action has been a lawsuit for "harassment" probably means what they're doing isn't illegal, it's just highly frowned upon by the people who count money.

In some cities it absolutely will get you ticketed if you feed someone else's meter - and claiming it's your car won't always work, because you need to physically move your car to another block (down the block/across the street apparently isn't good enough) once your 2 hours is up.

I always thought a "2 hour limit" meant that's the max allotment you can buy from a meter at any given time, but it actually means "You can park here for as long as 2 hours. After that, you don't have to go home, but you can't park here." Which is not made clear anywhere on any signage I've ever seen.

// though in DC, one sign will often disagree with another on the same pole




Whatever, noob.

I wonder what it looks like giving a kid a ticket for feeding the meter.
 
2013-05-14 05:16:49 PM  

MBooda: farkingismybusiness: I hope he cuts their heartds out with a spoon off.

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Came in for the world shaker.

/Leaving satisfied like a hand washed car on a hot day and a belly full of hard boiled eggs
 
2013-05-14 05:18:13 PM  

weapon13: I have zero sympathy for people


You could have saved everybody a lot of time and just stopped at that.
 
2013-05-14 05:18:32 PM  

robbiex0r: Ker_Thwap: A case of people being stupidly helpful.  It's a cute idea at face value, until you need a meter in a retail district that some clown has been parked at all day.

What if the owner of the car comes and plugs the meter every 2 hours? That's perfectly legal, even if the meter maid sees them show up every hour and 58 minutes.


Most laws limit you to a max of so many hours per day, many of the meters around here are labels as 1 hour max, 2 hour daily limit or something like that, you can come feed the meter once, but not again.
 
2013-05-14 05:20:08 PM  
The purpose of parking meters is to discourage people from monopolizing a prime parking space during business hours, so that other people may have an opportunity to use the space.
 
2013-05-14 05:20:33 PM  

weiserfireman: Coast Guard counts as a military service

During war time, they report to the Department of Defense

/former Navy


Ok, serious inquiry.  And I'm not military, so excuse any ignorance.  I thought the point of the Coast Guard was that it was run by each state.  As in "Louisiana Coast Guard", "Illinois Coast Guard".

And thats why they're often first responders during natural dissasters.

I know during hurricanes here in Louisiana, its the Coast Guard that comes down to help first.

/Yes, I'd still consider them "military"
 
2013-05-14 05:21:44 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: They'll just do what some towns here in Arizona have done: triple the fines for speeding tickets. Since there are no parking meters, a simple speeding ticket in Pinetop-Lakeside, Arizona is almost $400 now, same for running a yellow, I mean red, light.


They should be paying you $400 just to live in Pinetop. :)
 
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