super_grass: [upload.wikimedia.org image 680x520]Virtually all countries inEurope has stricter standards for who can belong on the road.We don't want to enact more sensible anti-drunk drivinglegislation and suffer the tyranny ofEurope do we?No, real Americans drive inebriated and let G-D sort out the fatalities!
namegoeshere: dittybopper: graphI'm going to have to throw airbags, seat belt laws, kids-in-the-back campaigns, and safer cars into the equation. Anyone got a graph that accounts for those safety improvements?
the_freelance: Oh and EVERY SINGLE PERSON leaving an NFL stadium would be in violation.
R.A.Danny: timujin: Not sure what this is supposed to accomplish. What percentage of drunk driving deaths are caused by people at .08?Pretty much what I came in here to say. Are lives really going to be saved by arresting sober people?
chachi88: Arkansas DUI$475 fine and time served
soupafi: The reason I've taken a hard stance on DUI's is because I had a scare when I was 22.Went out drinking, had too many guinnesses and woke up, at my place, with no memory of getting home.I went out to see if I was parked funny, parked normally. Then checked for damage. None. Checked my phone, I didn't call anybody.So either someone I know took me home or I did something incredibly stupid. I was lucky I didn't kill anyone.If I did get a DUI I would of owned up to it. It should be .05/scared straight//calls a taxi now/// taxi magic is an awesome app//// but the fark app is better
sammyk: PowerSlacker: Throw the book at the people who exceed .08 instead.Even that is a little low. It used to be .10. A lot of people, myself included, felt that was just a money grab.
Dr.Fey: doofusgumby: Know 2 people who got DUI s AT HOME. And didn't drink until after they got there.I just don't believe this. No DA would file - there's no way to beat the reasonable doubt if this went to trial, and no DA wants to lower his or her conviction rate.
factoryconnection: sammyk: Even that is a little low. It used to be .10. A lot of people, myself included, felt that was just a money grab.I don't know about that. Even in my submarining days (yes, sailors drink a lot, submariners drink even more), downing four drinks in an hour did not leave me in a state to drive. Five would be messy.timujin: Not sure what this is supposed to accomplish. What percentage of drunk driving deaths are caused by people at .08?This I would like to see borne out in detail, however.
DrewCurtisJr: antidisestablishmentarianism: Oh hey, Drunk Driving deaths only make up 6% of all drunk driving deaths when the BAC is between .05 and .07.Was the alcohol a factor in the crashes?
buzzcut73: doofusgumby: I like the new billboards popping up around here. Picture of a guy who registered .08 on a breathalyzer, captioned "YOU JUST BLEW $10,000"it's insanely expensive to get one these days. Fines, missed work, DUI school, increased insurance costs, interlock device, license suspension & reinstatement fees, etc. Be a cheap bastard you drunks! Call a cab!/Note to self includedWhich is why self-driving cars won't make a bit of difference. Hell, they'll slap you with a DUI for sleeping in a parked car now, what makes you think they won't if you're in a self-driving car that's on the road?
StoPPeRmobile: Air bagsTraction controlDisc brakesCrumple zoneThank you technology gods.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Me: Makes sense, which is exactly why they won't do it. Having a beer with dinner is going to be as black and white as having 1 gram of weed in your house, or catching two minors having sex in their dad's car. You'll do more jail time and suffer more long term consequences than the thugs who shot up the parade in NOLA last weekend.
Thisbymaster: Maybe we should invest in driverless tech instead of wasting time and money on this? It would be cheaper, and better for everyone in the long run.
brap: I take umbrage at the headline, I may be sauced out of my gourd, but I'm never too drunk to hail a cab.
dittybopper: Wow, it's true: One in seven current Minnesota drivers (570,191) has a DWI on record, and one in 17 has two or more DWIs. In the state, 1,265 Minnesotans have 10 or more DWIs.
BunkoSquad: Here's to living in a city with many bars in walking distance!
namegoeshere: I am having a bad focusing day, so pardon me if I missed it somewhere, but has anyone given us a number of fatal accidents where the driver was over .05 but under .08?
factoryconnection: dittybopper: Neoprohibitionists. They are working, slowly, gradually, towards zero tolerance. They know they can't ask for it all at once, because they will be laughed at. So they exploit the mechanisms of the slippery slope to achieve their goals.MADD does fall under this category, and they seem to have all the free time in the world to bother legislators. God knows they don't have a social life.And I say this as someone that is deeply committed to road safety and responsible drinking: dem b*tches be crazy.
dittybopper: Neoprohibitionists. They are working, slowly, gradually, towards zero tolerance. They know they can't ask for it all at once, because they will be laughed at. So they exploit the mechanisms of the slippery slope to achieve their goals.
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