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(Al Jazeera)   Sex slaves are necessary for an army's discipline. So we're good here, right?   (aljazeera.com) divider line 111
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2013-05-14 09:26:30 AM  
How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?
 
2013-05-14 09:30:26 AM  
I kinda agree. I'd hate to see how bad it would be if a lack of discipline caused an army to rape the populace of an occupied region.
 
2013-05-14 09:34:59 AM  
I don't know about disipline, but they are great for morale!
 
2013-05-14 09:37:04 AM  
FTFA: "Toru Hashimoto, the young, brash mayor of Osaka who is also co-leader of an emerging conservative political party..."

He'd fit right in with the GOP.
 
2013-05-14 09:49:51 AM  
I thought in that context they were called "comfort women"
 
2013-05-14 09:54:10 AM  

nekom: I thought in that context they were called "comfort women"


They were, it's where Frank Luntz learned his métier.
 
2013-05-14 09:56:54 AM  

ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?


Is this from Osaka's mayor? He belongs to a far right nationalist fringe party who has previously called for a dictatorship for Japan.
 
2013-05-14 10:11:30 AM  

ginandbacon: nekom: I thought in that context they were called "comfort women"

They were, it's where Frank Luntz learned his métier.


Bravo.
 
2013-05-14 12:47:44 PM  
Hey, Toru-san!

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-14 12:49:47 PM  
Next years CPAC keynote speaker!
 
2013-05-14 12:50:40 PM  
Wait, this isn't ancient Greece or Rome?
 
2013-05-14 12:51:28 PM  
We're more civilized, we have women enlist to get raped by our troops.
 
2013-05-14 12:56:52 PM  
Well at least there aren't any homogheys in the military. We'd have to have his n hers sex slaves.
 
2013-05-14 12:57:35 PM  
Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.
 
2013-05-14 12:58:00 PM  
The women all wanted to receive "gifts from God", so the generous Japanese soldiers did their best to provide them with rape babies.
 
2013-05-14 01:01:01 PM  

Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.


The younger generations of Japan look back at the Imperialist period with longing and go around saying "The Empire shall rise again"? I doubt that very much.
 
2013-05-14 01:03:38 PM  
Repubrican outreach
 
2013-05-14 01:03:53 PM  
According to another article I read, these women and girls were often raped up to 20-40 times a day.  Every day.  That's way more than will fit into a 40lb box.

/seriously though, threw up in my mouth a little when I read that.
 
2013-05-14 01:05:16 PM  
I remember watch the special features on the 'Letters from Iwo Jima' and the Japanase actors (mainly Ken Wannatabe stated that he was shocked when he researched his part as that history is not discussed at all...in schools or publicly.

Also, it was World War Two....every army had their own 'comfort' girls....Japan just happened to use captured citizens from other countries.
 
2013-05-14 01:05:50 PM  
Finally, someone says what we've all been thinking.
 
2013-05-14 01:07:14 PM  

Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.


Came here to say this.  They are the flip-side of what Germany did post-WW2.
 
2013-05-14 01:08:18 PM  
Well He kinda has a point, combat is pretty stressful and without some form of release the soldiers might flip out and start raping women left and right, indiscriminately kill civilians for fun and make pyramids out of thier severed heads and...oh, right, never mind...
 
2013-05-14 01:11:16 PM  
It would be nice if we brought back the Army brothels like Patton set up.
 
2013-05-14 01:11:56 PM  

BarrRepublican: Well at least there aren't any homogheys in the military. We'd have to have his n hers his sex slaves.


FTFY
 
2013-05-14 01:12:20 PM  

ferretman: I remember watch the special features on the 'Letters from Iwo Jima' and the Japanase actors (mainly Ken Wannatabe stated that he was shocked when he researched his part as that history is not discussed at all...in schools or publicly.

Also, it was World War Two....every army had their own 'comfort' girls....Japan just happened to use captured citizens from other countries.


There is a huge difference between "camp followers"  ie professional or amatuer women who attach themselves to an army on the move in return for material rewards and "comfort women" who are forced at gunpoint to fulfiill the same role.  There is a reason the US army was greated with flowers and parades even when invading hostile countries like Italy and Germany , whereas the civilian populations fled in terror where the Nazis, or Imperial Japanese, or even Red Army advanced.
 
2013-05-14 01:13:19 PM  
Too bad all that discipline didn't translate to actual skill and experience.
/Problem with all the attroicites that Imperial Japan did didn't make them more efficient soldiers. It's one thing to kill people who can't fight back. It's another thing entirely to attack people that fight back. And have better weapons then you.
 
2013-05-14 01:13:36 PM  

Counter_Intelligent: I kinda agree. I'd hate to see how bad it would be if a lack of discipline caused an army to rape the populace of an occupied region.


or they could just fu*k themselves.
 
2013-05-14 01:14:17 PM  
Since they don't have a standing military to apply this logic to, I'm not overly concerned.
 
2013-05-14 01:14:55 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

"No love lost"
 
2013-05-14 01:15:29 PM  

Magorn: Well He kinda has a point, combat is pretty stressful and without some form of release the soldiers might flip out and start raping women left and right, indiscriminately kill civilians for fun and make pyramids out of thier severed heads and...oh, right, never mind...


Except that taking women back as spoils of war for a rape-fest is why the guy is a douchebag.
 
2013-05-14 01:17:32 PM  

qorkfiend: Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.

The younger generations of Japan look back at the Imperialist period with longing and go around saying "The Empire shall rise again"? I doubt that very much.


On the Far right?  Yepp. that's it exactly.   The extreme right of Japanese poltics (which is deeply enmeshed with the Yakuza) thinks that Japan has manifest destiny to rule all of Asia as the Master Race ,and when Japanese polticians try to offer apologies for things like the biological warfare they used in China, these guys absolutely lose thier shiat.  And while they are a tiny minority of the population they wield enormous influence in what is taught in Japanese Schools  and which texts get approved by the Ministryof Education.
 
2013-05-14 01:21:03 PM  

Magorn: qorkfiend: Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.

The younger generations of Japan look back at the Imperialist period with longing and go around saying "The Empire shall rise again"? I doubt that very much.

On the Far right?  Yepp. that's it exactly.   The extreme right of Japanese poltics (which is deeply enmeshed with the Yakuza) thinks that Japan has manifest destiny to rule all of Asia as the Master Race ,and when Japanese polticians try to offer apologies for things like the biological warfare they used in China, these guys absolutely lose thier shiat.  And while they are a tiny minority of the population they wield enormous influence in what is taught in Japanese Schools  and which texts get approved by the Ministryof Education.


Thankfully I've seen signs that the Japanese are starting to acknowledge their war crimes. I've seen one anime reference Unit 731. And not in a good light.
 
2013-05-14 01:21:14 PM  

ferretman: I remember watch the special features on the 'Letters from Iwo Jima' and the Japanase actors (mainly Ken Wannatabe stated that he was shocked when he researched his part as that history is not discussed at all...in schools or publicly.


Nothing! Absolutely nothing! STUPID! That's so STU-PIIIIIIIIIIID!
 
2013-05-14 01:28:10 PM  

Magorn: qorkfiend: Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.

The younger generations of Japan look back at the Imperialist period with longing and go around saying "The Empire shall rise again"? I doubt that very much.

On the Far right?  Yepp. that's it exactly.   The extreme right of Japanese poltics (which is deeply enmeshed with the Yakuza) thinks that Japan has manifest destiny to rule all of Asia as the Master Race ,and when Japanese polticians try to offer apologies for things like the biological warfare they used in China, these guys absolutely lose thier shiat.  And while they are a tiny minority of the population they wield enormous influence in what is taught in Japanese Schools  and which texts get approved by the Ministryof Education.


Sounds like a cross between Texas fundamentalists and Cuban exiles in Miami.
 
2013-05-14 01:36:00 PM  

ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?


www.tofugu.com
 
2013-05-14 01:40:53 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: "No love lost"


Well I came to make a Joy Division post, but I see you got it covered.
 
2013-05-14 01:42:47 PM  

thatboyoverthere: Magorn: qorkfiend: Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.

The younger generations of Japan look back at the Imperialist period with longing and go around saying "The Empire shall rise again"? I doubt that very much.

On the Far right?  Yepp. that's it exactly.   The extreme right of Japanese poltics (which is deeply enmeshed with the Yakuza) thinks that Japan has manifest destiny to rule all of Asia as the Master Race ,and when Japanese polticians try to offer apologies for things like the biological warfare they used in China, these guys absolutely lose thier shiat.  And while they are a tiny minority of the population they wield enormous influence in what is taught in Japanese Schools  and which texts get approved by the Ministryof Education.

Thankfully I've seen signs that the Japanese are starting to acknowledge their war crimes. I've seen one anime reference Unit 731. And not in a good light.


Gotta admit, Until I saw a History Channel documentary, even I, who consider myself something of a minor history buff, had no idea how badly Japan behaved in China (not the Rape of Nanjing obviously, which is famous)  For instance I knew that 731 conducted horrific human experiements but I had no idea that they actually suceeded in weaponizing biological agents and regularly bombed Chinese cities an villages with bombs carrying mutated plague and smallpox viruses (so much so that there are outbreaks of the disease linked ot those agents even to this day in rural China) and it was only a pissing match between the Japanese Army and Navy that prevented what would have likely been a devastating bio-attack on the US West Coast  (the navy refused to carry ARMY bombers on their aircraft-carrying submarines)
 
2013-05-14 01:43:37 PM  

Maud Dib: ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?

[www.tofugu.com image 750x600]


I don't...I can't... I whaaa....?
 
2013-05-14 01:44:54 PM  

ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?


How different is this to what's going on in America's south right now?

www.ruffinflagcompany.net
 
2013-05-14 01:47:07 PM  

MrBallou: FTFA: "Toru Hashimoto, the young, brash mayor of Osaka who is also co-leader of an emerging conservative political party..."

He'd fit right in with the GOP.


Googled this guy, he's plenty scary. He makes Putin and China and Best Korea seem mild by comparison.
 
2013-05-14 01:47:22 PM  
And it worked so well! Without these comfort women the Japanese would have run amok in Nanking!
 
2013-05-14 01:50:17 PM  

Stone Meadow: ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?

How different is this to what's going on in America's south right now?

[www.ruffinflagcompany.net image 300x200]


Well for one thing, this is the mayor of Japan's third largest city and one of its biggest tourist sites.
 
2013-05-14 01:52:07 PM  
Legalized and Regulated Prostitution is necessary for an army's discipline, subby.
 
2013-05-14 01:52:51 PM  

Magorn: qorkfiend: Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.

The younger generations of Japan look back at the Imperialist period with longing and go around saying "The Empire shall rise again"? I doubt that very much.

On the Far right?  Yepp. that's it exactly.   The extreme right of Japanese poltics (which is deeply enmeshed with the Yakuza) thinks that Japan has manifest destiny to rule all of Asia as the Master Race ,and when Japanese polticians try to offer apologies for things like the biological warfare they used in China, these guys absolutely lose thier shiat.  And while they are a tiny minority of the population they wield enormous influence in what is taught in Japanese Schools  and which texts get approved by the Ministryof Education.


Oh, they have their own GOP. We should send them a card expressing our sympathies.
 
2013-05-14 01:53:42 PM  

The_Time_Master: Legalized and Regulated Prostitution is necessary for an army's discipline, subby.


No, just the regular sex. The discipline costs extra.
 
2013-05-14 01:57:28 PM  

Fart_Machine: Antimatter: Japan really glosses over their war crimes, hell, the entire war, in their history books.  Instead they seem to focus on the pre-20th century time periods.

I'd wager if you asked most younger folks to describe they war, they would describe it much like hardcore southerners describe the civil war here in the US.

Came here to say this.  They are the flip-side of what Germany did post-WW2.


Round two of this today.  Spirited debate in this other thread......

http://www.fark.com/comments/7748873/Like-Germany-Japanese-history-b oo ks-insist-that-country-took-1931-1945-off-They-were-on-vacation-in-Kor ea-Punch-was-served-Check-with-Korea

I made the statement "most racist country in the world".  Nary an argument over that statement.
 
2013-05-14 01:58:54 PM  

Huggermugger: MrBallou: FTFA: "Toru Hashimoto, the young, brash mayor of Osaka who is also co-leader of an emerging conservative political party..."

He'd fit right in with the GOP.

Googled this guy, he's plenty scary. He makes Putin and China and Best Korea seem mild by comparison.


As I said...
 
2013-05-14 02:00:58 PM  

Maud Dib: ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?

[www.tofugu.com image 750x600]


I don't even.  I know that's the point of the picture but, what.the.fark.is.that?
 
2013-05-14 02:03:33 PM  

ginandbacon: Stone Meadow: ginandbacon: How do words like this come out of your mouth in today's day and age? I mean really? How is this okay to express, much less think?

How different is this to what's going on in America's south right now?

[www.ruffinflagcompany.net image 300x200]

Well for one thing, this is the mayor of Japan's third largest city and one of its biggest tourist sites.


Sure, but since we're being serious the subcultures of historical revisionism, moral equivalence and cognitive dissonance are the same.
 
2013-05-14 02:04:41 PM  
Impossible. Michio Kaku says that the US is a rogue nation and that Japan has a culture of peace.
 
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