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(NYPost)   Problem: all the lines at Disney for the rides are two hours long. Solution: hire a handicapped "tour guide" and get escorted straight up to the front each time   (nypost.com) divider line 142
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2013-05-14 09:33:16 AM
Meh, that's less & less of a case as time goes by; any queue space that's been built/refurbished in the last few years at least has been wheelchair accessible.

And boy howdy is it fun to watch a cast member tell people that their wheelchair can go right ahead into the line, no special treatment for them.

/rich folks can hire VIP tour hosts anyway
 
2013-05-14 09:42:00 AM
"It's insider knowledge that very few have"

Not anymore.
 
2013-05-14 09:43:43 AM
My mom is a double amputee (cancer, not the diabeetus). She really wanted to go to Disneyworld for some hellish reason. I loathe the place, but one does not tell one's 70 year old legless mother no when it comes to a request like that.

Neither of us knew anything about this policy. And I have to admit: my loathing level went from eleventy billion to only 110% after they took one look at her, gave us a guide, and gave us instant access to the front of *every* line.

Good for you, Disney, for having at least one humane policy.

/ yes, I have read the books about how much it sucks to work for them
 
2013-05-14 09:48:22 AM
you forgot "for a fee"


You should never forget that part
 
2013-05-14 09:53:27 AM
Still not good enough. The only way I would consider going to any sort of theme park would be if it was open only for me and a few select guests, as was the case for the Griswolds. There is no other possible scenario in which the fun-to-misery ratio works out to an acceptable level.
 
2013-05-14 10:03:25 AM

Pocket Ninja: Still not good enough. The only way I would consider going to any sort of theme park would be if it was open only for me and a few select guests, as was the case for the Griswolds. There is no other possible scenario in which the fun-to-misery ratio works out to an acceptable level.


Depends.

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Disney escort tour guide service.
 
2013-05-14 10:07:08 AM

whistleridge: Good for you, Disney, for having at least one humane policy.


10 more years of good behavoir and they can get Walt's soul out of hell and at least into purgatory
 
2013-05-14 10:25:20 AM
isn't the solution "never go to disneyland?"
 
2013-05-14 10:25:22 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: whistleridge: Good for you, Disney, for having at least one humane policy.

10 more years of good behavoir and they can get Walt's soul out of hell and at least into purgatory


Only if they resurrect Sonny Bono and have his zombie corpse repeal the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998. Otherwise, they can continue to burn in hell for vigorously farking over public domain, just to preserve an incredibly outdated cartoon that no one would have wanted to use anyway.
 
2013-05-14 10:27:13 AM
When I was in high school we met some girls that didn't even put that much thought into it. They just brought a wheelchair. Got in front of all the lines. And laid. But that was a long time ago.
 
2013-05-14 10:43:49 AM

Pocket Ninja: Still not good enough. The only way I would consider going to any sort of theme park would be if it was open only for me and a few select guests, as was the case for the Griswolds. There is no other possible scenario in which the fun-to-misery ratio works out to an acceptable level.


When I was a kid my parents took me, bro, and sis to Disney World twice in late January (our three birthdays are within three days of each other that time of year) and we had no issue with lines.  Then I made the mistake of going for a day over spring break in March one year and I understood how hellish it can be and thought I'd never return because it had gotten so busy.

Then last year I was in Orlando in early January for a conference so I went to Epcot for the day with my friend, and all the lines were short again.  I guess it really just depends on what time of year you go- if you're already spending all that money to go down with the family might as well make sure you do it at the time of year when the lines are really short.

/csb
 
2013-05-14 10:48:18 AM
My solution was to visit with my 88 year old grandmother.

Pushing a wheelchair around Epcot was a small price to pay for premium boarding of rides.
 
2013-05-14 10:49:43 AM
Oh sure, lets target the 1%. Sure they scoff at the countless double shifts and overtime needed to reach a lofty corner cube position. You've put the time in, it's yours now. That's right the masses sit in their cubicle listening to that crappy muzak two cubes overs, staring at photos of your dream vacation, just waiting to look at Becky from accounting with those Judy Geib earrings and the tight sweater she always wears on Tuesday and uh well.....I'll get that data sheet for you Jack. Nobody wants to wait in lines anyway, do they?
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2013-05-14 10:49:57 AM
The "black-market Disney guides" run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

Or rent a wheelchair for $12.00 a day and take turns sitting in it.
 
2013-05-14 10:50:17 AM

Mugato: When I was in high school we met some girls that didn't even put that much thought into it. They just brought a wheelchair. Got in front of all the lines. And laid. But that was a long time ago.


A buddy of mine with hemophilia carries a card in his wallet that allows him to jump to the front of the line (apparently, standing around can cause spontaneous bleeding. How that squares with "being tempest-tossed in a rubber raft" causing bleeding, I have no idea). He's been doing this since the late 1990s.

// dunno if he charged, or if the two friends had to pay for his ticket
// I imagine even The Happiest Place on Earth (that's not Jayma Mays' vag) can get boring if you're there 6 days a week
 
2013-05-14 10:50:29 AM
Please... hire someone? We used to rent a wheelchair for that very reason back in school. They could not prove our friend did not need a wheelchair. Even when we showed up with him on crutches and such.
 
2013-05-14 10:50:45 AM
As someone who is much more interested in the rides than the "theme" part, I find you're better off going to one of the roller coaster parks like Cedar Point.
 
2013-05-14 10:50:48 AM
You gotta love how NY Post plays both sides of the fence.  If it's not about socialists cheating money from the the job creators it's about snooty limousine libs taking advantage of the system.

Great stuff.
 
2013-05-14 10:53:47 AM
My son would qualify for this special dispensation, but I find it more important to teach him patience than to teach him privilege.

Having a family member employed there, we get the benefit of free entrance when he's available to let us in, which is the only reason I go there anyway.  Drinking around the world in Epcot is pretty damn fun.
 
2013-05-14 10:54:42 AM
Went to Disney World at 11, then went to Cedar Point in Sandusky 15 years later and was reminded why I hated theme/amusement parks.  I'd really like someone here to explain how waiting 1 hour in line for a 3 minute ride is 'fun'.
 
2013-05-14 10:56:08 AM
This story should give every life skills program in the Orlando and Anaheim areas the greatest fundraising opportunity ever.
 
2013-05-14 10:56:23 AM

Andromeda: if you're already spending all that money to go down with the family might as well make sure you do it at the time of year when the lines are really short.


The only reason for going there is for the kids, it is hard to arrange a time when only your kids are out of school. Kings Island (Cincinnati) was great because schools in Kentucky ended one week before Ohio.
 
2013-05-14 10:57:05 AM
On the plus side, you have rich elite people supporting diabled people
 
2013-05-14 10:57:05 AM
"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' - the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours," crowed one mom, "You can't go to Disney without a tour concierge,'' she sniffed. "This is how the 1 percent does Disney."

Seems legit.

Though I'm surprised that bastion of journalistic integrity, the NY Post, would fail to describe in detail either the Snidely-Whiplash-moustache-twirling, or the live baby seal sacrifices taking place nearby.
 
2013-05-14 10:57:57 AM
#1 rule about "Black-Market Disney Guides" is to not talk about.......
 
2013-05-14 10:59:14 AM
I don't know, for me, when you are on vacation and in the "vacation mindset" you don't mind doing ridiculous things like waiting longer in line, paying 6 dollars for a can of soda, etc...
 
2013-05-14 10:59:22 AM
I travelled with a wheelchair-bound friend on a cruise. She got me in everywhere.

/bada bing
 
2013-05-14 11:02:36 AM
I took my family to Disney back in 2000. We went during the 1st week of September. The lines weren't too bad, but the did offer a special 2-hour limited access pass to the rides. It wasn't terribly expensive and during those 2 hours, there was never more than a 2 minute wait.

/csd?
 
2013-05-14 11:02:37 AM

meanmutton: As someone who is much more interested in the rides than the "theme" part, I find you're better off going to one of the roller coaster parks like Cedar Point.


fozziewazzi: Went to Disney World at 11, then went to Cedar Point in Sandusky 15 years later and was reminded why I hated theme/amusement parks.  I'd really like someone here to explain how waiting 1 hour in line for a 3 minute ride is 'fun'.


I'm bringing the family to CP at the end of July. This our first trip to a larger amusement park and this is my greatest fear. That and getting lost in Chicago somewhere.
 
2013-05-14 11:04:54 AM
Please we did it the old fashion 99 percenter way by having my dad break his leg in multiple places....but then he refused to use the wheelchair in line and would crutch it for the regular lines.  No Swiss Family Robinson treehouse though

Honestly with all of the people in wheelchairs down there now due to size issues, the wheelchair lines don't save you that much time (because a 10-12 deep line has to wait for the specific cars which can take a bit).  It used to be a short line but over the years it has been getting just as backed up and the lines are pretty fair.  Occasionally the regular line is shorter. Most people tend not to care if people go in the other line for whatever reason (i.e. why care if someone is moving to the front of the line) especially with some of the new games for kids in the main line.
 
2013-05-14 11:05:01 AM

wambu: I travelled with a wheelchair-bound friend on a cruise. She got me in everywhere.

/bada bing


Having a friend with a handicapped parking sticker is great also.
 
2013-05-14 11:05:54 AM

fozziewazzi: Went to Disney World at 11, then went to Cedar Point in Sandusky 15 years later and was reminded why I hated theme/amusement parks.  I'd really like someone here to explain how waiting 1 hour in line for a 3 minute ride is 'fun'.


I always had a theory that it is a version of the placebo effect - if you just go on all the rides straight away, they are actually fairly dull. By building up anticipation for an hour or more, and just the fact hundreds of people will stand in line that long to get on the ride, it makes the ride seem a lot better than it really is, because why would people wait that long if it wasn't great?
 
2013-05-14 11:06:02 AM
Now if these snooty 1%'ers really wanted to troll, they should have rolled their trip into fulfilling wishes for the Make a Wish Foundation. They could pay for real handicapped kids to go to Disney and still have their own crotchfruit get to the front of the line. Win win all around.
 
2013-05-14 11:06:48 AM
Just go camping. Why waste your money on an institution that promotes atheism and gay marriage, let alone "mixed" relationships and bestiality, and drugs...
 
2013-05-14 11:08:05 AM

Charlie Chingas: Just go camping. Why waste your money on an institution that promotes atheism and gay marriage, let alone "mixed" relationships and bestiality, and drugs...


I like those things.
 
2013-05-14 11:09:50 AM

fozziewazzi: Went to Disney World at 11, then went to Cedar Point in Sandusky 15 years later and was reminded why I hated theme/amusement parks.  I'd really like someone here to explain how waiting 1 hour in line for a 3 minute ride is 'fun'.


Well if If I had to go to an Amusement park with Jerry I would hate it too.
I've heard the Rhythmic slapping shower ride goes downhill really fast.
 
2013-05-14 11:11:37 AM

whistleridge: My mom is a double amputee (cancer, not the diabeetus). She really wanted to go to Disneyworld for some hellish reason. I loathe the place, but one does not tell one's 70 year old legless mother no when it comes to a request like that.

Neither of us knew anything about this policy. And I have to admit: my loathing level went from eleventy billion to only 110% after they took one look at her, gave us a guide, and gave us instant access to the front of *every* line.

Good for you, Disney, for having at least one humane policy.

/ yes, I have read the books about how much it sucks to work for them


I worked at Disneyland as a ride operator for awhile.  Best job ever.  If my financial responsibilities permitted I would cheerfully go back.
 
2013-05-14 11:12:14 AM

Amper: "My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' - the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours," crowed one mom, "You can't go to Disney without a tour concierge,'' she sniffed. "This is how the 1 percent does Disney."

Seems legit.

Though I'm surprised that bastion of journalistic integrity, the NY Post, would fail to describe in detail either the Snidely-Whiplash-moustache-twirling, or the live baby seal sacrifices taking place nearby.


Of course the best possible solution is to skip It's a Small World entirely.

/earworm
 
2013-05-14 11:14:46 AM
They changed the way they did this years ago. You use to be able to go around the lines. But what they do now is the person in the wheel chair waits at the front while the able people walk through the line. Also...when has anyone waited 1 1/2 hours for It's a Small World?
 
2013-05-14 11:15:43 AM
Bruce Campbell:  Drinking around the world in Epcot is pretty damn fun.

Whatever that stuff is they sell you in a shot glass in Norway almost ended my vacation.
 
2013-05-14 11:15:59 AM

Andromeda: Pocket Ninja: Still not good enough. The only way I would consider going to any sort of theme park would be if it was open only for me and a few select guests, as was the case for the Griswolds. There is no other possible scenario in which the fun-to-misery ratio works out to an acceptable level.

When I was a kid my parents took me, bro, and sis to Disney World twice in late January (our three birthdays are within three days of each other that time of year) and we had no issue with lines.  Then I made the mistake of going for a day over spring break in March one year and I understood how hellish it can be and thought I'd never return because it had gotten so busy.

Then last year I was in Orlando in early January for a conference so I went to Epcot for the day with my friend, and all the lines were short again.  I guess it really just depends on what time of year you go- if you're already spending all that money to go down with the family might as well make sure you do it at the time of year when the lines are really short.

/csb


Yes. As a former Floridian, the only time I would go to Disney was during the off-season. You're not miserable from the heat and the lines are short enough that nice ride operators will just let you stay on until you get bored or puke.
 
2013-05-14 11:18:32 AM
SB time (not sure if its cool but it's a story bro)

MANY moons ago, when I was gradulating from high school we all went to DismalLand for "Grad Night". Back then there was NO head-of-the-line deals like this BUT they also would NOT let me on any of the "spectacular" rides without first signing a "I won't sue you if I get hurt" waiver! Which is pretty farked considering I could have likely climbed ANY of the rides faster than any of Disney's ride-monkeys! Tragic Mountain also had the same policy so I pretty much skipped the amusement parks as a kid. I DID manage to go on the Revolution at Tragic Mountain once, but only because my buddy and I "rushed" the ride and got on before a supervisor noticed me and informed me of their "sign this waiver or don't ride" policy.

A year or 3 out of high school I ran away to join the circus/carnival circuit and was in HEAVEN! Not only could I ride ANY ride on the midway but for FREE! After about 10 years of the carnie life I can safely say I've ridden EVERY ride that I had enough nerve to get on. I never rode the Zipper or Skydiver, but, hey I was YOUNG, not crazy!

Now I wonder if maybe I should return to Disney and offer my "services"? Anyone know a 1%'er who could hook me up with that "special" phone number?

/csb ? you be the judge
//slashies
///cuz you always gotta go 3
 
2013-05-14 11:19:17 AM
Last time I was at DW I talked with a few employee's behind the scenes including a guy who does programming for some of the major robotic (forgot what he called it) systems.  Even the young guys said the job wasnt that bad, some of them even loved it.  Yea there was a bit of a weird "cult vibe" to some of it but as far as work goes it was steady and not too stressful.
 
2013-05-14 11:20:13 AM
why bother taking a 1 year old and a 5 year old? 1 year old has no clue whats going on----a car ride around the block works for them and it puts them to sleep---lets not forget that you have a stroller, diaper bag, etc to lug around all day. The five year old is probably freaked out by all the stimuli and people dressed in charachter costumes. After an hour you'lll find your self carrying them the rest of the way. But I guess if I have the cash to hire a disabled person for the day you won't have to be "bothered" with all that and hire another person for all those duties. And if i have that kind of money and I am that shallow, why did I go along anyway? Let the nanny do all the leg work while I hang out in the Bahamas until they are "done" at Disney World. And if I was rich and shallow and could ship the kids off like that, wife sits poolside and spends more of my money while I go have an affair. Yay rich people.
 
2013-05-14 11:20:56 AM

Mugato: When I was in high school we met some girls that didn't even put that much thought into it. They just brought a wheelchair. Got in front of all the lines. And laid. But that was a long time ago.


I was about to say, this option seems much cheaper.
 
2013-05-14 11:21:06 AM
aevorea:
Yes. As a former Floridian, the only time I would go to Disney was during the off-season. You're not miserable from the heat and the lines are short enough that nice ride operators will just let you stay on until you get bored or puke.

As a current Floridian I find that the first week of January is an ideal time to go. We stayed 3 days and MK was open until 1 or 3am every day. We walked onto every ride in the park for over 4 hours. With park hopper you spend the daylight at AK or HS then move to Epcot for dinner then MK for late night.
 
2013-05-14 11:26:07 AM

ThatGuyGreg: Meh, that's less & less of a case as time goes by; any queue space that's been built/refurbished in the last few years at least has been wheelchair accessible.

And boy howdy is it fun to watch a cast member tell people that their wheelchair can go right ahead into the line, no special treatment for them.

/rich folks can hire VIP tour hosts anyway


WHy should disabled people be able to jump the line anyway? seems to me that a person sitting in a wheelchar already has it better than the folks standing in the line.   Still the fact that these tour guides exist, and the fact that Disney will bascially sell you the same thing for 400 HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR is sickening to me and a reson 've nevr taken my kid to Disney.  Rather than fix the problem of overcrowded rides by either building more attractions or selling less enterance tickets everyday, Disney basically decides to profit it off it, and give kids a lesson at an early ages  in why the "haves" are better than them
 
2013-05-14 11:26:29 AM

toby8915: They changed the way they did this years ago. You use to be able to go around the lines. But what they do now is the person in the wheel chair waits at the front while the able people walk through the line. Also...when has anyone waited 1 1/2 hours for It's a Small World?


So what you're saying is this entire article is BS and the Post is just yanking our chains? Yet you are the only one posting this?

/curious
 
2013-05-14 11:30:02 AM
The older I get, the less I will stand in line. I can get free passes to Six Flags over GA, but I hate standing in lines so much that I rarely go.  PAY to stand in line, as people have mentioned, an hour for a two or three minute ride. You're out of you're farking mind.
 
2013-05-14 11:30:17 AM

hitmanric: meanmutton: As someone who is much more interested in the rides than the "theme" part, I find you're better off going to one of the roller coaster parks like Cedar Point.

fozziewazzi: Went to Disney World at 11, then went to Cedar Point in Sandusky 15 years later and was reminded why I hated theme/amusement parks.  I'd really like someone here to explain how waiting 1 hour in line for a 3 minute ride is 'fun'.

I'm bringing the family to CP at the end of July. This our first trip to a larger amusement park and this is my greatest fear. That and getting lost in Chicago somewhere.


It's been a LONG time since I've had to wait in significant lines at Cedar Point.  If you're going during the week, the new roller coaster will be over an hour, a couple of the big ones will be 30-45 minutes, but you'll be able to basically walk on like 6-8 roller coasters and all of the small rides.
 
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