I_C_Weener: That's not a scandal. This is a Scandal.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: So it's a scandal when someone fails to do their constitutional duty?!
Mentat: /pats head
James!: I_C_Weener: That's not a scandal. This is a Scandal.No, THIS is a scandal.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mentat: /pats headI don't get it, but you better know I demand dinner first. And I ain't cheap
whistleridge: Look at this nice list of federal political scandals in the United States. Remember that Harding is generally considered the worst and most corrupt President in history. Now see which Presidents since his time have the most scandals under their names, and remind yourself of which party they have in common. It's a remarkable correlationIt's not about the party, it's about the facts. Sorry, Republicans, but this is yet another circumstance in which the facts seem to be biased against you.
Nabb1: but let's not lose sight of the fact that there are some troubling expansions of unchecked executive power going on.
Aarontology: Nabb1: but let's not lose sight of the fact that there are some troubling expansions of unchecked executive power going on.My problem with all the rabble around these "scandals" is that not once has anyone said "Hey, maybe we shouldn't have given the Feds all this power and authority in the first place, and maybe we should probably do something about that"Nobody has offered any solutions for that or even really acknowledged the source of the problem because they don't want to give up the power when they're in charge, and because the only concern nowadays is whether or not the abuse benefits "your team"
Nabb1: And you likely won't see any real movement from within Washington to change that. Bush left Obama a lot of nice playthings for an ambitious President. I mean, look at the only thing the Republicans and Democrats have managed to come together on recently: gutting insider trading laws that apply to themselves. It's disgusting.
I got your scandal right here!
Nabb1: The Republicans being shiatheads does not mean the President has not been trampling the Bill of Rights. I think Benghazi is a tempest in a teapot for the most part, but I do find it unforgivable (not impeachable) that the Administration was blaming some silly little YouTube video for the attacks apparently knowing full well what this was. And the IRS thing, while awful, does not appear to be Obama's fault and I agree with his assessment of the situation thus far. But the recent sweeping, secretive investigation of the AP is startling. So, between the Benghazi response and bullying the AP, we see he's not a fan of the First Amendment. The Second Amendment is an obvious one. He supported renewal of the Patriot Act, continued warrantless wiretaps, signed a bill authorizing indefinite detention of American citizens if they are labeled as "terror suspects", is only just now getting around to maybe, possibly closing our detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, and let's not forget the thousands of deaths from drone strikes that were carried out for the purpose of extra-judicial executions of American citizens overseas. So, he's not real big on the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments, either. Yes, the Republicans are acting like petulant spoiled brats and they need to stop blocking every appointment willy-nilly, but let's not lose sight of the fact that there are some troubling expansions of unchecked executive power going on.
Danger Mouse: you over there...get ready to call someone a racist
Vectron: That's Bernstein setting the softball on tee. That's Fark on the left.[www.mscc.edu image 600x358]
TheShavingofOccam123: But the GOP is the party of God. They are only trying to do God's will in a world of evil. They are Armageddon warriors; let them fight the battle God has placed around them and let them win BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY![s3.amazonaws.com image 218x320]/famous Republican leader
RyogaM: Oh fer fark's sake, get a grip.
RyogaM: Don't think it's a scandal? It's pretty basic: Republicans, by abusing their Constitutional powers, are - deliberately, in several cases - preventing the government from carrying out duly passed laws.Oh fer fark's sake, get a grip.
Gaseous Anomaly: Danger Mouse: you over there...get ready to call someone a racistGood point. I remember when sitting Congress members questioned Jimmy Carter's eligibility to be President. And how every conservative was convinced Carter was "bad" in multiple contradictory dimensions simultaneously (he was a do-nothing empty suit who was about to implement martial law too, IIRC...)./he was very articulate though
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