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(KATU)   The Army will no longer shoot the gulls which eat the baby terns who are left alone when the eagles fly over, meaning that the terns might not move and eat more baby salmon. Got that?   (katu.com) divider line 43
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2013-05-14 09:47:47 AM
Have they considered launching Operation Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly?
 
2013-05-14 09:58:17 AM
To everything (tern, tern, tern) there is a season (tern, tern, tern).
 
2013-05-14 11:08:26 AM
The gorillas will simply freeze to death.
 
2013-05-14 11:09:16 AM
What effect will this have on the krill?
 
2013-05-14 11:10:41 AM
And they'll all be swallowed by the Cosmic Owl. Such is life.
 
2013-05-14 11:10:55 AM

Tom_Slick: The gorillas will simply freeze to death.


4.bp.blogspot.com

Not if the hunters get there first.  It's foolproof.
 
2013-05-14 11:12:34 AM
It's the ciiiiiiircle of liiiiiiiiife.
 
2013-05-14 11:12:57 AM
Some animals are just bound to go extinct, like the striped biologist taunter.
 
2013-05-14 11:15:29 AM
LEAVE NO TERN UNSTONED!!!
 
2013-05-14 11:17:35 AM
"Federal agencies forced the terns to relocate closer to the Columbia's mouth, where the birds eat fewer salmon because they are mixed in with other species of ocean fish."

Ah yes, I remember the tragic "Trail of Terns".
 
2013-05-14 11:34:02 AM
Soon it will be terns for us too, Clarice.
 
2013-05-14 11:45:06 AM
The thread certainly took a tern for the worse.
 
2013-05-14 11:48:03 AM
I need a Venn Diagram, please.
 
2013-05-14 11:55:22 AM
Cam for the Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly reference

/leaving satisfied
 
2013-05-14 12:01:29 PM
The Army will no longer shoot the gulls which eat the baby terns who are left alone when the eagles fly over, meaning that the terns might not move and eat more baby salmon. Got that?


....exactly
 
2013-05-14 12:02:07 PM
Backstreet Boys
 
2013-05-14 12:09:52 PM

TrixieDelite: I need a Venn Diagram, please.



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2013-05-14 12:09:59 PM

Kome: Backstreet Boys


No it would have to be an arctic tern
 
2013-05-14 12:13:05 PM

Kome: Backstreet Boys


www.nndb.com
SEES WHAT YOU DID THERE
 
2013-05-14 12:14:16 PM
Meanwhile in china.

graphics8.nytimes.com

It's fun to mock environmental protections and 'hippy tree huggers' but I'd rather deal with the occasional WTF moment of learning that the army has been shooting gulls to keep terns from moving so they don't eat salmon than walk past that even once.

So go western civilization, or something, I guess.

/hotter than the knock off designer clothes on sale in that market.
 
2013-05-14 12:15:06 PM
Nature. You can't explain that.
 
2013-05-14 12:15:16 PM
I just absolutely love the arrogance we have with nature.  Somehow this planet evolved for 4 BILLION + years without us and suddenly we have to control everything.  I think it's time for another giant meteor.
 
2013-05-14 12:28:41 PM

Too Pretty For Prison: I just absolutely love the arrogance we have with nature.  Somehow this planet evolved for 4 BILLION + years without us and suddenly we have to control everything.  I think it's time for another giant meteor.


If you want cheap and 'clean' hydropower, you had better realize that there are going to be some environmental issues.  As I have said in another thread, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

The Columbia River is utilized to a great extent and we cannot allow nature to exist in a vacuum here.  It was the reason the BPA money went to building all of those fish hatcheries - to mitigate and bolster the salmon and steelhead runs.  In conjunciton with the impact of the dams, you have to be aware of the other impacts that you create, like sea lions swimming upstream to sit at the mouth of the fish ladders and an explosion of tern colonies on man-made islands.

The environmental issues here are big enough that a good number of environmental groups want to tear out several of these dams, which will only serve to transfer these environmental 'costs' from thier backyard to someone elses.
 
2013-05-14 12:29:50 PM

Too Pretty For Prison: I just absolutely love the arrogance we have with nature.  Somehow this planet evolved for 4 BILLION + years without us and suddenly we have to control everything.  I think it's time for another giant meteor.



Two things:
Planets don't evolve.
There has only been life on this one for about one billion years.
 
2013-05-14 12:32:33 PM
Correction:

Life has existed on this planet for about 3.5 billion years.
 
2013-05-14 12:35:34 PM

give me doughnuts: Correction:


Life has existed on this planet for about 3.5 billion 6,000 years.

/it's true cause I read it here on Fark.com
 
2013-05-14 12:56:34 PM

give me doughnuts: Too Pretty For Prison: I just absolutely love the arrogance we have with nature.  Somehow this planet evolved for 4 BILLION + years without us and suddenly we have to control everything.  I think it's time for another giant meteor.


Two things:
Planets don't evolve.
There has only been life on this one for about one billion years.


1. I was speaking in general terms when I said the planet was evolving - as in the entire unit, not specifically the non-living planet.
2. My point was, we've been around for approximately 10,000 years and we have the arrogance to think this planet can't survive without us meddling (again, the general term - I don't think the planet will live or die).
3. If you're so bored as to 'correct' people with your vast knowledge, why don't you go pretend you're a gull and take your chances with the Army?
 
2013-05-14 01:05:25 PM

Too Pretty For Prison: 2. My point was, we've been around for approximately 10,000 years and we have the arrogance to think this planet can't survive without us meddling (again, the general term - I don't think the planet will live or die).


It is not that the 'planet can't survive without us meddling' but that our way of life dictates that we meddle.  For us to argue here on the internet, we need power, plastic, metal, lumber, food, and thousands of other material good.  If you want to go back to living in caves and off the land, go ahead and try.  The rest of us will acknowldege that fact that we need to mitigate the impacts that our way of life requires.
 
2013-05-14 01:22:58 PM
If the terns on Rice Island continue to produce no young, the problem might eventually have an ending, but the report doesn't mention one and I can't think of anything which might stop living creatures from doing things.
 
2013-05-14 01:39:04 PM
Why are seagulls protected?  The skyrats are in every Walmart parking lot and garbage dump 'round these parts, probably more numerous than roaches.

If the environmentalists are worried about salmon, just club the freakin' gulls when they come in for bread crumbs--it's like fishing on dry land, and way easier.
 
2013-05-14 02:08:03 PM

fickenchucker: Why are seagulls protected?  The skyrats are in every Walmart parking lot and garbage dump 'round these parts, probably more numerous than roaches.

If the environmentalists are worried about salmon, just club the freakin' gulls when they come in for bread crumbs--it's like fishing on dry land, and way easier.


I don't care for seagull myself, but I think the protections date back to the early 20th, when lots of birds were hunted for plumage, and the carrier pigeon, and a couple of other species, had recently been hunted right into extinction.
 
2013-05-14 02:09:25 PM
she swallowed a gull to eat the tern,
she swallowed a tern to eat the salmon,
which wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her...

/today's earworm, courtesy of Burl Ives
 
2013-05-14 02:55:31 PM

give me doughnuts: Correction:

Life has existed on this planet for about 3.5 billion years.


Too late, Wikipedia says 1 billion years now.
 
2013-05-14 03:01:09 PM

Sybarite: To everything (tern, tern, tern) there is a season (tern, tern, tern).


*snerk*
 
2013-05-14 03:01:12 PM

PunGent: fickenchucker: Why are seagulls protected?  The skyrats are in every Walmart parking lot and garbage dump 'round these parts, probably more numerous than roaches.

If the environmentalists are worried about salmon, just club the freakin' gulls when they come in for bread crumbs--it's like fishing on dry land, and way easier.

I don't care for seagull myself, but I think the protections date back to the early 20th, when lots of birds were hunted for plumage, and the carrier pigeon, and a couple of other species, had recently been hunted right into extinction.


This is exactly right.The Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 (first enacted in 1916) is the law that protects most every bird, and was passed for exactly the reasons you said. Not only was it a problem in the continental US, but the outlying islands (NW Hawaiian Wake, Baker, Howland....all of those you never hear of) were having a lot of their seabird colonies decimated by feather hunters, guano miners, and people gathering the eggs.
 
2013-05-14 03:03:10 PM
For a christian nation, we seem to spend an inordinate amount of time fighting god's mechanics..
 
2013-05-14 04:05:06 PM
As someone who has been terrorised by marauding mobs of thieving shiatehawks because I was in possesion of a sausage roll, I was just having fun imagining the 51st Gull Shooting Corps parading with their shotguns. Do they have belt fed squad support shotguns?
 
2013-05-14 04:54:07 PM
Hopefully the Army will put these saved resources to better use and execute 95% of the Californian sea lions on the Willamette and the Columbia rivers.

THAT will help the salmon, steelhead and sturgeon populations.
 
2013-05-14 05:11:16 PM

buzzcut73: PunGent: fickenchucker: Why are seagulls protected?  The skyrats are in every Walmart parking lot and garbage dump 'round these parts, probably more numerous than roaches.

If the environmentalists are worried about salmon, just club the freakin' gulls when they come in for bread crumbs--it's like fishing on dry land, and way easier.

I don't care for seagull myself, but I think the protections date back to the early 20th, when lots of birds were hunted for plumage, and the carrier pigeon, and a couple of other species, had recently been hunted right into extinction.

This is exactly right.The Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 (first enacted in 1916) is the law that protects most every bird, and was passed for exactly the reasons you said. Not only was it a problem in the continental US, but the outlying islands (NW Hawaiian Wake, Baker, Howland....all of those you never hear of) were having a lot of their seabird colonies decimated by feather hunters, guano miners, and people gathering the eggs.


Time to update the law and allow a seagull season.  The filthy things shiat on every park bench and attack you every chance they get.  I'm only a few blocks from Lake Michigan and seagulls suck.
 
2013-05-14 06:49:32 PM

give me doughnuts: Correction:

Life has existed on this planet for about 3.5 billion years.


We can all agree that life's existence is hypothetical before I was born.

/I believe everything older than me are props cobbled together to maintain the illusion
 
2013-05-14 09:29:29 PM
Conservationists and creationists disdain evolution.
 
2013-05-14 09:35:23 PM
The Army will no longer shoot the gulls which eat the baby terns who are left alone when the eagles fly over, meaning that the terns might not move and eat more baby salmon. Got that?

Yessir.  But what happens to the gorillas?
 
2013-05-15 01:34:18 AM
They just wanted to give someone else a tern i guess...
 
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