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(WESH Orlando)   The first rule of gay club is... never mind, there is no gay club   (wesh.com) divider line 38
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2013-05-13 11:41:33 PM  
Alpha Kappa Homo.
 
2013-05-14 12:26:30 AM  
I wonder, just as a point of comparison, if the school has any religious clubs or organizations, such as the FCA.
 
2013-05-14 01:32:59 AM  
The board voted for "a new middle-school policy that allows clubs that promote critical thinking, business, athletics and arts."

Yeah, like that's going to keep them out of court.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-gay-straight-club-20130513,0, 28 88104.story
 
2013-05-14 01:37:04 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: The board voted for "a new middle-school policy that allows clubs that promote critical thinking, business, athletics and arts."

Yeah, like that's going to keep them out of court.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-gay-straight-club-20130513,0, 28 88104.story


Fine, call it the General Association of Yoga.
 
2013-05-14 01:58:00 AM  
The first rule of gay club is... never mind, there is no gay club

i780.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-14 02:31:31 AM  
Don't worry kids. In 6 years or so you can join a fraternity.
 
2013-05-14 03:52:58 AM  
quadium.net
 
2013-05-14 05:07:40 AM  
www.moviegoods.com
 
2013-05-14 05:09:21 AM  
Ill bet the first lawsuit is filed before the butthurt in this thread is finished.
 
2013-05-14 05:12:47 AM  

Oldiron_79: Ill bet the first lawsuit is filed before the butthurt in this thread is finished.


Gay club. Butthurt. There's a joke there.

/anal
 
2013-05-14 05:22:16 AM  

SpikeStrip: The first rule of gay club is... never mind, there is no gay club

[i780.photobucket.com image 164x186]


Well, they could always have a Culture Club.
/tip your waitstaff
 
2013-05-14 05:23:33 AM  
As certain as I am that people can be born straight or born gay there's a lot of "haven't got that shiat cleared up in my head" group out there and they are usually in that age range. I would even venture to say that for every kid in that age range that is certain they are homosexual, there's probably at least two who are confused. Maybe they're bisexual, maybe they're just not sure...

The problem is... If the homosexual kids have no "outlet" to talk it can mess them up but if the confused kids end up mixed with them it's going to mess things up for the homosexual kids, the confused kids, and you're going to end up with a lot of 'I was in the gay club but then I prayed it away...!' type nonsense.
 
2013-05-14 05:26:27 AM  
Right, because helping scared youth come to terms and be comfortable with who they are has no effect on student achievement.

/if I'd felt cool about being gay, I probably would have done a lot better in High School
 
2013-05-14 05:31:20 AM  
These kids are incredibly brave, and the administration is very short-sigthed.

Their rationale of wanting clubs to be academic-oriented is obviously a Jim-Crow type law, but even if it weren't, a club that helps student feel safe and secure for them in a world where being gay doesn't necessarily offer safety and security obviously will help foster academics.

It's all about Maslow's hierarchy of needs. You can have kids working on calculus who can't remember what they learned because the very focus of their lives is a feeling of unsafety and non-acceptance.
 
2013-05-14 05:40:56 AM  
In these days of Masters degrees in any thing you choose to call a field of study, a gay club could be advancing academic achievement, at least in theory.

I used to work with a gay colleague. I don't have much of a gaydar and Matt wasn't very camp, and by the time I worked out he was gay (during a conversation when he mentioned his boyfriend, so you can see the quality of my detective work there) we had quite a rapport going.

One day, I was quietly bringing Matt up to speed on workplace gossip about a security guard who got sacked because, on long, lonely weekends guarding an otherwise empty office building, he would sneak up to the tenth floor and use an office phone for phone sex. The office knew about it when a $2000 phone bill arrived, itemised. I'd been involved in observing the subsequent meeting between the security manager and the guard, where he was sacked. The security manager was weighing up whether he would notify the authority in charge of security licencing about the misuse of client property (which would have cost the guy his abiltiy to work), but ultimately decided not to when the guard promised to only do event security not office buildings.

Anyway, Matt sympathised with the security guard. "I hope he's not married with a family and that, because it would be pretty embarrassing to be done for phone sex." "He lives with his mother", I confirmed, "but it would have even been more tricky if he was married because it was gay phone sex."

For the only time I knew him, Matt completely camped up, rolled his eyes up in the gayest imaginable way, and exclaimed "Oh, how heteronormative am I?"

That's a funny story which makes no sense without 'Gender studies' or 'queer cultural analysis' classes happening now at a university near you.
 
2013-05-14 05:58:29 AM  

robohobo: Oldiron_79: Ill bet the first lawsuit is filed before the butthurt in this thread is finished.

Gay club. Butthurt. There's a joke there.

/anal


Wow, the very next post picked up on my obvious setup.
 
2013-05-14 06:14:52 AM  

NobleHam: Right, because helping scared youth come to terms and be comfortable with who they are has no effect on student achievement.

/if I'd felt cool about being gay, I probably would have done a lot better in High School


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So you're saying that you were gay before it was cool? Were you dating the opposite sex ironically as well?
 
2013-05-14 06:32:51 AM  

soundguy: NobleHam: Right, because helping scared youth come to terms and be comfortable with who they are has no effect on student achievement.

/if I'd felt cool about being gay, I probably would have done a lot better in High School

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So you're saying that you were gay before it was cool? Were you dating the opposite sex ironically as well?


I suppose it was ironic in retrospect, yeah.
 
GBB
2013-05-14 06:44:13 AM  
Does the middle school have any other Singles Clubs for the straights to join?
 
2013-05-14 06:58:17 AM  

GBB: Does the middle school have any other Singles Clubs for the straights to join?


Sure.  I think they call it "being in middle school".
 
2013-05-14 07:10:17 AM  
Nothing stymies achievement like a little homo knowing five people who won't beat them bloody if they let their guard down.
 
2013-05-14 07:45:27 AM  

alienated: SpikeStrip: The first rule of gay club is... never mind, there is no gay club


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-14 08:03:36 AM  
Middle schoolers are nature's way of trolling us, because no other group on earth will make you consider as quickly the merits of eugenics.
 
2013-05-14 08:26:12 AM  
A gay guy walks into a club....

It's funnier when it's a seal, but whatever.
 
2013-05-14 08:42:01 AM  
The first rule of gay club is KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

Unless there's something in it.
 
2013-05-14 08:56:39 AM  
this is an outrage
 
2013-05-14 09:00:02 AM  

computerguyUT: A gay guy walks into a club....

It's funnier when it's a seal, but whatever.


lmao!!

i just had to shake my head to that one
 
2013-05-14 09:19:15 AM  
These kids cannot help their sexuality and it would help them to be able to talk to others as a support system.

But they can't because hateful idiots out there feel queasy about it.

My stepson is gay.  Last Thanksgiving he brought some of his (also gay) friends to our house because their parents has so completely rejected them that they could not even go to their own families for a Thanksgiving meal.

My wife hugged one of the kids and he burst into tears.  He was not used to a parental figure hugging him and I think that when my wife did it became a brief surrogate for all of the parental love that he was denied over the years.

People need to get over this foolishness and let people live their lives.
 
2013-05-14 10:04:49 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Middle schoolers are nature's way of trolling us, because no other group on earth will make you consider as quickly the merits of eugenics.



Having taught middle school, I must reluctantly agree.  All the hormones of a young adult, all the maturity of a little kid.

Then again, I suspect some of our best leaders and innovative thinkers in politics/industry/military were probably once some of the worst assholes any middle school teacher had to face.  It's impossible to predict.

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Being in middle school can be hell on earth even if you are a straight kid.  A club to provide support could be a great thing, if the student felt safe enough to be "out" to begin with.
 
2013-05-14 11:50:30 AM  
My daughter's middle school has a club like this. Of course living in the liberal bastion that is Westchester County N.Y. there has been very little blow-back about it.
 
2013-05-14 11:56:56 AM  

Pentaxian: My daughter's middle school has a club like this. Of course living in the liberal bastion

actually educated area that is Westchester County N.Y. there has been very little blow-back about it.

Fixed that for ya.
 
2013-05-14 01:10:02 PM  
I think the glee club is going to get an influx of new membership.
 
2013-05-14 01:52:36 PM  
They should just change the name to something most people wouldnt want to join. Like the Chinese Checker club or something.
 
2013-05-14 03:40:00 PM  

alienated: SpikeStrip: The first rule of gay club is... never mind, there is no gay club

[i780.photobucket.com image 164x186]

Well, they could always have a Culture Club.


That joke was terrible.  Do you really want to make me cry?
 
2013-05-14 03:50:02 PM  

NobleHam: soundguy: NobleHam: Right, because helping scared youth come to terms and be comfortable with who they are has no effect on student achievement.

/if I'd felt cool about being gay, I probably would have done a lot better in High School

------

So you're saying that you were gay before it was cool? Were you dating the opposite sex ironically as well?

I suppose it was ironic in retrospect, yeah.


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If you also rode a fixed-speed bicycle, then situations like modern Williamsburg may be partly your fault. But then I guess teh gheys have always been trend-setters.
 
2013-05-14 10:08:21 PM  

randomjsa: As certain as I am that people can be born straight or born gay there's a lot of "haven't got that shiat cleared up in my head" group out there and they are usually in that age range. I would even venture to say that for every kid in that age range that is certain they are homosexual, there's probably at least two who are confused. Maybe they're bisexual, maybe they're just not sure...

The problem is... If the homosexual kids have no "outlet" to talk it can mess them up but if the confused kids end up mixed with them it's going to mess things up for the homosexual kids, the confused kids, and you're going to end up with a lot of 'I was in the gay club but then I prayed it away...!' type nonsense.


What better way to settle the question of whether you're gay than by getting to know gay people?
 
2013-05-14 10:13:41 PM  

NobleHam: soundguy: NobleHam: Right, because helping scared youth come to terms and be comfortable with who they are has no effect on student achievement.

/if I'd felt cool about being gay, I probably would have done a lot better in High School

------

So you're saying that you were gay before it was cool? Were you dating the opposite sex ironically as well?

I suppose it was ironic in retrospect, yeah.


I thought you meant you'd have done a lot better at getting gay sex.
 
2013-05-15 01:26:46 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: NobleHam: soundguy: NobleHam: Right, because helping scared youth come to terms and be comfortable with who they are has no effect on student achievement.

/if I'd felt cool about being gay, I probably would have done a lot better in High School

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So you're saying that you were gay before it was cool? Were you dating the opposite sex ironically as well?

I suppose it was ironic in retrospect, yeah.

I thought you meant you'd have done a lot better at getting gay sex.


Maybe that too, though I did all right with "straight" guys, but my insecurity and ambivalence toward my future definitely impacted my academic achievement as well.
 
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