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(Washington Post)   "Hey, man, let's get some rock from that hill to build our road." "Dude, isn't that like a pyramid or something?" "Dude, shut up and start the backhoe"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 187
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2013-05-14 12:06:45 AM
Was 1 measly gold per turn too much for 2 Science and 2 Faith?
 
2013-05-14 12:13:58 AM
I find it amazing that Rome was busy getting pwned by naked Frenchmen when Mesoamerica was building monuments so great that later Latin American civilizations assumed they were the work of gods.

Give Pakal a few stable fulls of horses and oxen, or inform Pachacuti of the oxidizing properties of Chilean saltpeter, and the world would be an entirely different place
 
2013-05-14 12:21:44 AM
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Honestly, these things are probably one of the most useful unique buildings out there. Only reason not to let Archery wait until turn 30ish is if you need trade routes and a waterwheel stat.


So, they say there's a silver lining here, in that now they can get into the inside of the pyramid. What? Why didn't they just do that before? Is it like opening the Book of the Dead where you need some poor schmuck to eat the mummy curse before going in?
 
2013-05-14 01:10:46 AM
In before chumps claiming progress trumps historical preservation.

Anywho, I hope the road builders go to jail for at least a little while, and never get building permits again...
 
2013-05-14 01:12:16 AM
It'd be nice to have some before pictures in the article.
 
2013-05-14 01:12:46 AM
Death penalty.
 
2013-05-14 01:13:40 AM
FTFA: These guys knew that this was an ancient structure. It's just bloody laziness.

Yeah, well...
 
2013-05-14 01:13:42 AM
Wow.  And even in the shiatty tiny photos you can clearly see the "hill" they were excavating is made up of a bunch of hand laid stones.
 
2013-05-14 01:16:20 AM
Let go of the past. The world is going to end anyway. Why save it?
 
2013-05-14 01:16:57 AM
Shouldn't a pyramid look like a pyramid?

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2013-05-14 01:17:30 AM
Most new is build from or on top of old, unless cheaper to reuse old,  been like that until well, its still like that, you try to find a old house in Aisa
 
2013-05-14 01:19:11 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Was 1 measly gold per turn too much for 2 Science and 2 Faith?


I thought the pyramid gave you granary in all the continental cities.
 
2013-05-14 01:19:22 AM
Bypasses have to be built, you know, Mr Dent.
 
2013-05-14 01:19:24 AM
Silly humans...so sentimental.
 
2013-05-14 01:20:57 AM

ladyfortuna: ...I hope the road builders go to jail for at least a little while, and never get building permits again...


They'll probably end up getting jobs working for Haliburton.
 
2013-05-14 01:22:32 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but as a Mesoamerican anthropologist long before I was a lawyer, this kind of thing nauseates me more than overt looting or intentional destruction. At least grave-robbing for profit or religious destruction like the Taliban did has some kind of purpose. This--it's like using scraps from the Dresden Codex for toilet paper because you're just too lazy to run to the 7-11 for a day or two.
 
2013-05-14 01:23:01 AM

odenen: ladyfortuna: ...I hope the road builders go to jail for at least a little while, and never get building permits again...

They'll probably end up getting jobs working for Haliburton.


The road construction company is probably already a wholly owned subsidiary of Haliburton.
 
2013-05-14 01:24:09 AM

odenen: ladyfortuna: ...I hope the road builders go to jail for at least a little while, and never get building permits again...

They'll probably end up getting jobs working for Haliburton.


Sadly this
 
2013-05-14 01:25:31 AM

ladyfortuna: In before chumps claiming progress trumps historical preservation.

Anywho, I hope the road builders go to jail for at least a little while, and never get building permits again...


nah, they need to find a local Maya shaman to find out the best way to lay these assholes to rest on the site as offerings to the things they've disturbed.  The archaeologists can make sure they find a nice deep layer to put them in, perhaps wearing a hardhat and holding the keys to the backhoe.

CipollinaFan: Shouldn't a pyramid look like a pyramid?

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It probably looked a bunch more pyramid-like before that backhoe got its licks in.  You can even see the nicely-preserved arch in the passageway they've ripped open.
 
2013-05-14 01:25:32 AM
wow.  And I thought america was the worst country.
 
2013-05-14 01:26:43 AM
"I don't think I am exaggerating if I say that every day a Maya mound is being destroyed for construction in one of the countries where the Maya lived," wrote Francisco Estrada-Belli, a professor at Tulane University's Anthropology Department.

Seriously?  What, did entire countries run out of rock?  Is that even possible?  How bad are you at your construction job when you can't get gravel without destroying a pyramid?
 
2013-05-14 01:27:15 AM

Propain_az: wow.  And I thought america was the worst country.


Not even close.
 
2013-05-14 01:27:18 AM
My only consolation is that those who did this were ignorant enough to really have absolutely no idea what they were destroying...but I doubt it.
 
2013-05-14 01:29:10 AM

Emposter: "I don't think I am exaggerating if I say that every day a Maya mound is being destroyed for construction in one of the countries where the Maya lived," wrote Francisco Estrada-Belli, a professor at Tulane University's Anthropology Department.

Seriously?  What, did entire countries run out of rock?  Is that even possible?  How bad are you at your construction job when you can't get gravel without destroying a pyramid?


They used to (and still do) this here in the US too; turned out a lot of mounds in the plains were man-made and were destroyed for building material. I read an article about it in maybe Smithsonian or National Geographic a couple of years ago.
 
2013-05-14 01:32:08 AM

ladyfortuna: Emposter: "I don't think I am exaggerating if I say that every day a Maya mound is being destroyed for construction in one of the countries where the Maya lived," wrote Francisco Estrada-Belli, a professor at Tulane University's Anthropology Department.

Seriously?  What, did entire countries run out of rock?  Is that even possible?  How bad are you at your construction job when you can't get gravel without destroying a pyramid?

They used to (and still do) this here in the US too; turned out a lot of mounds in the plains were man-made and were destroyed for building material. I read an article about it in maybe Smithsonian or National Geographic a couple of years ago.


Yeah. It sucks, but I mean, it's hardly a new world phenomenon either. 6 months after the first farking stone hut went vacant, some asshole was there prying apart the stones to build a shiat hole for his newly domesticated stone age sheep.
 
2013-05-14 01:33:16 AM

ladyfortuna: In before chumps claiming progress trumps historical preservation.


Shush. This is a triumph of small, non-invasive government.
 
2013-05-14 01:36:05 AM
Wait until the curse kicks in. Then they're really screwed.
 
2013-05-14 01:38:26 AM

ladyfortuna: In before chumps claiming progress trumps historical preservation.

Anywho, I hope the road builders go to jail for at least a little while, and never get building permits again...


Go old school on them and cut out their hearts. Or were those the Aztecs?
 
2013-05-14 01:38:45 AM

FlyingBacon: Let go of the past. The world is going to end anyway. Why save it?


Actually, this pyramid sort of negates your theory. The "world" probably ended at least twice for cultures in that region since that pyramid was built. it's not like there is an apocalypse where all life gets destroyed, short of a supernova. Hundreds of generations seem to have coexisted with that pyramid until now. There is no foundation to an argument to get rid of it, since multiple cultures have clearly inluded it in their lives, even non-pyramid-building cultures.
 
2013-05-14 01:40:46 AM

ladyfortuna: In before chumps claiming progress trumps historical preservation.


Progressives clinging to 19th century stereotypes - typical.
 
2013-05-14 01:40:46 AM

FlyingBacon: Let go of the past. The world is going to end anyway. Why save it?


Yeah the Mayans said the world was going to be over by now anyways, the warranty on their pyramids is up!

/is it this one? the foliage looks a bit thick around it but i have no idea on dates taken.
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2013-05-14 01:42:26 AM
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-05-14 01:45:01 AM

WhoopAssWayne: ladyfortuna: In before chumps claiming progress trumps historical preservation.

Progressives clinging to 19th century stereotypes - typical.


That makes absolutely no sense.
 
2013-05-14 01:46:43 AM
Really sad what people will fark for money.
 
2013-05-14 01:48:27 AM
Well, that's probably what happened to most of the smooth casing stone on the Egyptian pyramids, as well as a lot of the architecture of Rome (where did all that missing stone from the Colosseum go, eh?).

Sucks.
 
2013-05-14 01:48:58 AM

Stoker: Really sad what people will fark for money.


I know. Literally millions of sexually abused chickens check in to group homes around DC and State capitols every week.
 
2013-05-14 01:49:59 AM

Gyrfalcon: I don't know about anyone else, but as a Mesoamerican anthropologist long before I was a lawyer,


You're seriously concerned that some other Mesomerican anthropologist turned lawyer will show up on Fark with a wildly differing opinion from you?
 
2013-05-14 01:50:38 AM
Making omelets something something breaking eggs.
 
2013-05-14 01:52:19 AM

aNihilV10L8tr: Making omelets something something breaking eggs.


That's what I say whenever some jesusy folks are upset someone wants to bulldoze their 300 year old historic church to put in a Circle K.
 
2013-05-14 01:52:22 AM

Inchoate: That makes absolutely no sense


She was claiming 'progress' - specifically industrialism - trumps historical preservation. That may have been true in the 1800s, maybe the early 20th century, but I see no one advocating that now in the US, in either political party, for a major historical site. "Let's mine Mt Rushmore for oil, then put up public housing", etc.
 
2013-05-14 01:52:41 AM

neongoats: Stoker: Really sad what people will fark for money.

I know. Literally millions of sexually abused chickens check in to group homes around DC and State capitols every week.


WTF?

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2013-05-14 01:54:40 AM
Progress trumps historical preservation. Many of our greatest cities are built at least in part from (and usually on) the ruins of past structures and cities already lost to history. Geology determines where cities are built. The cities and primitive structures that last are the ones built well off of the beaten path such as the lost city of Machu Picchu  in the Andes. This is just an extension of that. It's not like they destroyed it because it offended some religious view. They re-used it to fulfill a local need for materials. The pyramids of Giza lost their limestone facade for the same reason. This is just a jobs building project for future archeologists. Modern archeologist should be supporting this as a jobs program for their future colleagues.

/amidoingitrightladyfortuna
 
2013-05-14 01:57:05 AM

Stoker: Really sad what people will fark for money.


Kinda makes me think the computer in the Matrix was right.
 
2013-05-14 01:57:15 AM

jshine: neongoats: Stoker: Really sad what people will fark for money.

I know. Literally millions of sexually abused chickens check in to group homes around DC and State capitols every week.

WTF?

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I wish that was an oil painting.
 
2013-05-14 01:57:52 AM

jshine: Well, that's probably what happened to most of the smooth casing stone on the Egyptian pyramids, as well as a lot of the architecture of Rome (where did all that missing stone from the Colosseum go, eh?).

Sucks.


As to the Colosseum, I think it partially collapsed in one of the many major earthquakes that frequently rock the Mediterranean.  Interesting thing about Roman buildings is that it was mostly brickwork similar to modern day brickwork.  Would have looked like something from around the 1800s without all the facades they put on the buildings for beautification purposes.
 
2013-05-14 01:59:30 AM
It's not like a bunch of people destroyed Babylon and the birthplace of civilization.
 
2013-05-14 02:01:01 AM

LrdPhoenix: As to the Colosseum, I think it partially collapsed in one of the many major earthquakes that frequently rock the Mediterranean. Interesting thing about Roman buildings is that it was mostly brickwork similar to modern day brickwork. Would have looked like something from around the 1800s without all the facades they put on the buildings for beautification purposes.


I thought that the Colosseum was built using the first concrete formula. That's why it lasted so long.
 
2013-05-14 02:02:19 AM

sleeps in trees: It's not like a bunch of people destroyed Babylon and the birthplace of civilization.


We still have Detroit.
 
2013-05-14 02:04:33 AM
I'm going on record right now to predict a magnitude 6.0 - 7.0 quake in Mexico/Belize, within the next 27 days.
 
2013-05-14 02:05:03 AM

WhoopAssWayne: sleeps in trees: It's not like a bunch of people destroyed Babylon and the birthplace of civilization.

We still have Detroit.


Rock On!

/well played sir
 
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