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(Public Policy Polling)   42% of Americans have an unfavorable view of hipsters. Subby had an unfavorable view of them before it was mainstream   (publicpolicypolling.com ) divider line
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2013-05-13 01:44:36 PM  
The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.
 
2013-05-13 01:45:04 PM  
I'm just saying boxer briefs are far more comfortable and the elastic doesn't wear out nearly as fast.
 
2013-05-13 01:49:16 PM  
Probably the same 42% that thinks they will have to use guns to defend against those big city folk.
I don't think hipsters are what people imagine them to be.
 
2013-05-13 01:53:56 PM  

NostroZ: Probably the same 42% that thinks they will have to use guns to defend against those big city folk.


Mate, I like you, but you really need to drop bringing the right/tea parties into everything.
 
2013-05-13 01:57:01 PM  

Tatsuma: NostroZ: Probably the same 42% that thinks they will have to use guns to defend against those big city folk.

Mate, I like you, but you really need to drop bringing the right/tea parties into everything.


i  think that the broader point is valid though - "hipster" is just this amorphous word that people use to describe a general idea of something they hate, like "liberals" and "conservatives"
 
2013-05-13 02:04:41 PM  

thomps: Tatsuma: NostroZ: Probably the same 42% that thinks they will have to use guns to defend against those big city folk.

Mate, I like you, but you really need to drop bringing the right/tea parties into everything.

i  think that the broader point is valid though - "hipster" is just this amorphous word that people use to describe a general idea of something they hate, like "liberals" and "conservatives"


Yeah.  I've vistied people in West Virginia and personally I'm cool with fiscal conservatives.

Hipster is a deragatory word that's used to describe people that are the 'other'... in my neighborhood hipsters are usually artists, theater, music, culinary, beer, fashion interested people.  No body in their right mind would call each other a hipster, we describe one another by our interests.

What I was trying to say is it's an insult and even the survey is VERY biased to use a term like SOULLESS.
"soullessly appropriate cultural tropes from the past for their own ironic amusement."

It's an old person insulting the youth, saying that when THEY appropriated the old culture, it was SOULFUL.
But now, it's done SOULLESSLY.,, it's an insult by someone who does not know who a hipster is really.
 
2013-05-13 02:08:38 PM  

thomps: i  think that the broader point is valid though - "hipster" is just this amorphous word that people use to describe a general idea of something they hate, like "liberals" and "conservatives"


in the year 2013, anyone under the age of 30 who wears clothes or likes music or food is a "hipster"
 
2013-05-13 02:09:57 PM  
So since being a hipster is apparently not thought of as cool, would it be OK to like hipsters ironically then?
 
2013-05-13 02:10:14 PM  
also holy farking lol at a certain someone complaining about people bringing in unrelated politics

literally the most ironic post I have ever read in my entire life
 
2013-05-13 02:10:38 PM  
Of course, going "commando" is cheaper and allegedly more comfortable, but comes with its own set of risks.
 
2013-05-13 02:12:59 PM  

Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.


Came here to say this.

Hipster is a generic catch all for "Stop liking things I don't like"
 
2013-05-13 02:13:22 PM  

GreenAdder: Of course, going "commando" is cheaper and allegedly more comfortable, but comes with its own set of risks.


I'm stuck to my chair. I'm so very scared. Help. (Details In thread)
img19.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-13 02:14:07 PM  

Jackson Herring: in the year 2013, anyone under the age of 30 who wears clothes or likes music or food is a "hipster"


It really doesn't have much to do with age... if you are preoccupied with being ironic or favoring obscure things for the sake of their obscurity, you have something of the hipster within you... no matter the date on your birth certificate or the ZIP code on your mail.
 
2013-05-13 02:14:28 PM  
Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".
 
2013-05-13 02:15:15 PM  
I unironically self-identify as a hipster in order to transcend the irony of my necessary 9 to 5 capitalist existence while promoting snobbery and egomania.

I also have a beard, but it is often shamed by the luscious and lustrous offerings found around here.
 
2013-05-13 02:15:25 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Jackson Herring: in the year 2013, anyone under the age of 30 who wears clothes or likes music or food is a "hipster"

It really doesn't have much to do with age... if you are preoccupied with being ironic or favoring obscure things for the sake of their obscurity, you have something of the hipster within you... no matter the date on your birth certificate or the ZIP code on your mail.


Exactly.
 
2013-05-13 02:16:17 PM  
I like to wear my wrangler denim shorts just to piss off hipsters.
 
2013-05-13 02:16:21 PM  

meat0918: Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.

Came here to say this.

Hipster is a generic catch all for "Stop liking things I don't like"


Yup.  It's people they have not met, but in theory they do not like them... like 'those big city liberals' or those 'redneck conservatives' etc.  "Stop liking what I don't like!"
 
2013-05-13 02:16:52 PM  

meat0918: Hipster is a generic catch all for "Stop liking things I don't like"


People need to learn it's okay to not like things..
 
2013-05-13 02:17:40 PM  
I think hippos are kinda cute when they're dancing like in those Disney movies, but I've heard the real life onrs will kill you for nothing!

So I guess I see why people are not liking them so much...
 
2013-05-13 02:18:25 PM  
Ok, this isn't a real survey

"27% of voters said they thought hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being so annoying, while 73% did not think so. "

W.T.F!
 
2013-05-13 02:18:56 PM  

Jackson Herring: also holy farking lol at a certain someone complaining about people bringing in unrelated politics

literally the most ironic post I have ever read in my entire life


It might be the best post ever.
 
2013-05-13 02:19:48 PM  
Hipsters are the new yuppies. Self-important douchebags who instead of obsessing over money, insanely fancy things, and coke . They obsess over obscure things, insanely niche things, and coke.
 
2013-05-13 02:20:04 PM  

Frankentots: I also have a beard, but it is often shamed by the luscious and lustrous offerings found around here.


I too have a beard, but It is because it is leftover from winter and I have just been lazy and haven't shaved it yet.
 
2013-05-13 02:20:37 PM  

fireclown: Jackson Herring: also holy farking lol at a certain someone complaining about people bringing in unrelated politics

literally the most ironic post I have ever read in my entire life

It might be the best post ever.


one time i seen a post about a farting penis, so i'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there.
 
2013-05-13 02:21:29 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Hipsters are the new yuppies. Self-important douchebags who instead of obsessing over money, insanely fancy things, and coke . They obsess over obscure things, insanely niche things, and coke.

PBR
 
2013-05-13 02:22:02 PM  
I hated hipsters before they had a name for them.  Once they got a name I was too cool to hate them anymore.
 
2013-05-13 02:22:19 PM  

Jackson Herring: also holy farking lol at a certain someone complaining about people bringing in unrelated politics

literally the most ironic post I have ever read in my entire life


ilawled.com
 
2013-05-13 02:22:19 PM  
Pretty much anyone who stands out in a crowd is now considered a hipster. Think they're so special, dressing differently. Conform you bastards!
 
2013-05-13 02:22:59 PM  

Steven Cleamer: I like to wear my wrangler denim shorts just to piss off hipsters.


I'm guessing that doesn't just piss off hipsters--it pisses off everybody to see that.  Or it should, anyway.
 
2013-05-13 02:23:06 PM  

Burr: Frankentots: I also have a beard, but it is often shamed by the luscious and lustrous offerings found around here.

I too have a beard, but It is because it is leftover from winter and I have just been lazy and haven't shaved it yet.


I have a beard pretty much since '98 because it waas farking cold outside in the UP of Michigan without it.

Now I keep it because whenever I did the rare shave it all off, everyone around me told me to never shave again.

Seriously. My friends, coworkers, my wife, my kids, all of them look in horror and tell me to never ever shave off my beard.

//My life is an Oatmeal comic...
 
2013-05-13 02:23:22 PM  
I fully admit to being a hipster which means I'm not a hipster because a hipster would never admit to being a hipster.
 
2013-05-13 02:23:26 PM  

meat0918: special tax for being so annoying


They already pay that. Trendy upscale clothing shops have people scouring second-hand stores, flea markets and yard sales. They buy old beat-up clothing, slap a "Hand-picked Just For You!" sticker on it, and sell a $2 shirt for $70. It that isn't an idiot tax, I don't know what is.
 
2013-05-13 02:24:54 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Hipsters are the new yuppies. Self-important douchebags who instead of obsessing over money, insanely fancy things, and coke . They obsess over obscure things, insanely niche things, and coke.


It seems like youth culture goes in waves in a sense:

Hippies - Don't care about money, want to live life
Yuppies - Care about money and status
Grunge - Don't care about money (or anything else)
Hipsters - Care about image and buying obscure things (so, money)

So, the next wave will be somebody who doesn't care about image and money.  And we have the transitional periods in between where everybody is confused.

Of course, once people get beaten down by the real world a little, they all kind of merge into something different (usually around 40) and make fun of the new "youth culture"
 
2013-05-13 02:25:23 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".


Then why don't you tell us what you think a hipster is?
 
2013-05-13 02:25:44 PM  

meat0918: Ok, this isn't a real survey

"27% of voters said they thought hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being so annoying, while 73% did not think so. "

W.T.F!


Clearly, those Americans have never read the constitution or passed their civics exam to think that a group can be taxed purely because someone does not like them.  It would fall under a type of Bill of Attainder, which is prohibited by Congress.
 
2013-05-13 02:25:49 PM  
I don't know how wearing a wool beanie and cardigan sweater when its 90 degrees out all the while drinking PBR could ever be construed as "hip" - but alas......
 
2013-05-13 02:27:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-13 02:27:27 PM  
If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.
 
2013-05-13 02:28:23 PM  
 
2013-05-13 02:28:48 PM  

meat0918: Ok, this isn't a real survey

"27% of voters said they thought hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being so annoying, while 73% did not think so. "

W.T.F!


I wonder how much of that 27% consists of Libertarians and Conservatives?
 
2013-05-13 02:29:13 PM  
I'm so hipster, I watch my Hannibal promos only when they are from korea

(no, seriously, check them out they are insanely awesome)
 
2013-05-13 02:29:27 PM  

NostroZ: Clearly, those Americans have never read the constitution or passed their civics exam to think that a group can be taxed purely because someone does not like them. It would fall under a type of Bill of Attainder, which is prohibited by Congress


hell, that's basicly the reasoning behind the movement to raise taxes on the superrich.

/not gonna be affected by THAT law.
 
2013-05-13 02:29:28 PM  

ChipNASA: GreenAdder: Of course, going "commando" is cheaper and allegedly more comfortable, but comes with its own set of risks.

I'm stuck to my chair. I'm so very scared. Help. (Details In thread)


Thank you for that. That's one of the funniest threads I've ever read.
 
2013-05-13 02:29:40 PM  

meat0918: I have a beard pretty much since '98 because it waas farking cold outside in the UP of Michigan without it.


This is my first year with one (I am 32), my wife made me grow it to see how it looks.  Its annoying because my mustache does not connect to my chops and the bottom of my neck the grain kind of circles around so it is hard to keep trimmed.  One of these days I will get really annoyed with it and just go back to the "covering the chin" look I have had since HS.
 
2013-05-13 02:30:25 PM  

Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.


But... but!
I cannt fit into pencil thin pants and don't drink PBR, so... STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!

Let me watch TV and make fun of people who are different... errr... I mean... SOULLESS HIPSTERS!
 
2013-05-13 02:30:27 PM  

Bravo Two: What a hipster might look like:

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/the-evolution-of-a-hipster _5 0290b4e749ad.jpg


So hipsters were into Death Cab for Cutie, iPods and were 'emo'?

For fark's sake this shiat is all that is wrong with people who complain about hipsters.
 
IP
2013-05-13 02:31:22 PM  
 
2013-05-13 02:31:37 PM  
i googled NBA hipster and evidently it means having large red glasses.

but i also remembered this and didnt realize it was now on a t-shirt.

i kind of want it.  kind of.

skreened.com
 
2013-05-13 02:33:57 PM  

Tatsuma: Bravo Two: What a hipster might look like:

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/the-evolution-of-a-hipster _5 0290b4e749ad.jpg

So hipsters were into Death Cab for Cutie, iPods and were 'emo'?

For fark's sake this shiat is all that is wrong with people who complain about hipsters.


I'm afraid I don't get your meaning, sir.
 
IP
2013-05-13 02:34:05 PM  
 
2013-05-13 02:36:13 PM  

GreenAdder: meat0918: Hipster is a generic catch all for "Stop liking things I don't like"

People need to learn it's okay to not like things..


I think people need to learn it's okay to like things.
It's cool to hate. Except dogs and cats, for some reason.
 
2013-05-13 02:36:32 PM  

fireclown: NostroZ: Clearly, those Americans have never read the constitution or passed their civics exam to think that a group can be taxed purely because someone does not like them. It would fall under a type of Bill of Attainder, which is prohibited by Congress

hell, that's basicly the reasoning behind the movement to raise taxes on the superrich.

/not gonna be affected by THAT law.


Yes, and taxes on sin products like alcohol and tabacco are also similar, but those are uniform.
This survey stated that hipsters should pay a SPECIAL TAX for being ANNOYING.

Annoyance is a criminal misdimenor act (i.e. public disturbance, disturbing the peace, etc.) and therefore, a law targeting hipsters for being annoying with a tax is illegal under the US law.  This was tried with the rail roads by small towns that did not want them going through them and it was decided it's illegal to tax a group you don't like.
 
2013-05-13 02:37:11 PM  
I think it's a lot like what Justice Potter Stewart said about obscenity: "I know it when I see it".

Although in the case of hipsters, I would add, "and I hate it."
 
2013-05-13 02:37:54 PM  

IP: Also relevant.


profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2013-05-13 02:38:17 PM  

meat0918: Burr: Frankentots: I also have a beard, but it is often shamed by the luscious and lustrous offerings found around here.

I too have a beard, but It is because it is leftover from winter and I have just been lazy and haven't shaved it yet.

I have a beard pretty much since '98 because it waas farking cold outside in the UP of Michigan without it.

Now I keep it because whenever I did the rare shave it all off, everyone around me told me to never shave again.

Seriously. My friends, coworkers, my wife, my kids, all of them look in horror and tell me to never ever shave off my beard.

//My life is an Oatmeal comic...


My current boss apologized for making me shave mine off. Worst thing is I have to stay shaved because I work in a restaurant.
 
2013-05-13 02:40:04 PM  

Tatsuma: I'm so hipster, I watch my Hannibal promos only when they are from korea

(no, seriously, check them out they are insanely awesome)


I don't know what that was, but it broke my brain.
 
2013-05-13 02:40:37 PM  
img854.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-13 02:41:00 PM  

lokisbong: meat0918: Burr: Frankentots: I also have a beard, but it is often shamed by the luscious and lustrous offerings found around here.

I too have a beard, but It is because it is leftover from winter and I have just been lazy and haven't shaved it yet.

I have a beard pretty much since '98 because it waas farking cold outside in the UP of Michigan without it.

Now I keep it because whenever I did the rare shave it all off, everyone around me told me to never shave again.

Seriously. My friends, coworkers, my wife, my kids, all of them look in horror and tell me to never ever shave off my beard.

//My life is an Oatmeal comic...

My current boss apologized for making me shave mine off. Worst thing is I have to stay shaved because I work in a restaurant.


I've always had a goatee (the kind that goes from moustache to chin in an "O" shape, not the modern douchebag definition.

I look horrible without one.  I never shave it off. It's like samson cutting his hair.
 
2013-05-13 02:41:29 PM  

unyon: I don't know what that was, but it broke my brain.


Did you click the translation under the video? Because it makes it even better.
 
2013-05-13 02:41:33 PM  
i4.ytimg.com
"About one in five voters (21%) said they thought Pabst Blue Ribbon, commonly associated with hipsters, was a good beer. "
Seems about right.
 
2013-05-13 02:41:34 PM  
Just to define hipsters:
mootr.com

They typically ride bikes, have quirky interests/hobbies, and are anti-consumerist (may enjoy fashion, but shop at thrift stores... or make their own clothes, for girls... replace clothes with beer for guys).
 
2013-05-13 02:42:26 PM  
 
2013-05-13 02:44:11 PM  
What do you call the "right wing" hipster?
I work with a few of them.
They match most of the typical hipster traits, except they are fans of Ayn Rand and display "Who is John Galt?" bumper stickers.
 
2013-05-13 02:45:09 PM  
This was relevant before hating hipsters was mainstream; you've probably never heard of it. (Language NSFW)
 
2013-05-13 02:45:22 PM  

People are free to adopt whatever uniform/code of conduct suits them. But when someone is so obviously a conformist, it's more than a little annoying that they loudly insist they are not.



Nonconformity Linked To Peer Pressure

ATHENS, GA-According to a study released Tuesday by the University of Georgia's Institute For Social Research, a strong link exists between nonconformity and peer pressure among teenagers and young adults.

Commissioned in 1995 to examine the growing trend of nonconformity among 13- to 21-year-olds, the three-year study found that 85 percent of U.S. youths actively defy standard societal norms-adopting "alternative" modes of language, behavior and dress-as a means of winning the acceptance and approval of their peers.

"Kids today are told, over and over, by their classmates, their siblings, and images on TV and in magazines, that normal, mainstream behavior isn't 'cool,'" institute director and study co-chair Iris Evantine said. "The message these kids are receiving is: 'C'mon, don't you want to be different like us?' Sadly, kids who resist these pressures to be different are usually ostracized. For the average teenager these days, the pressure not to do what everyone else does is enormous, and often unbearable."
 
2013-05-13 02:45:35 PM  
cdn.duelinganalogs.com
 
2013-05-13 02:46:20 PM  
Hipster is a younger person? Huh.. didn't know that. My friend is in his 40's and is (what I thought) the very definitely of hipster. Goes out of his way to talk about obscure movies and music. Plus he pretty much thinks he's better than everyone else because he would never set foot in a mainstream restaurant!  He even dresses his newborn son in "hipster" clothes so to speak. Honeslty, the little guy does look cute in them. Plus he doesn't need glasses but wears big geeky black ones that make me want to smack him, but hey .. we all have our quirks I guess.

I could be wrong and he may just be annoying and not a hipster. I just think of that when I see/talk to him.
 
2013-05-13 02:49:09 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Pretty much anyone who stands out in a crowd is now considered a hipster. Think they're so special, dressing differently. Conform you bastards!


Except that hipsters are known for wearing skinny jeans, shopping at thrift stores, getting apartments in scary areas, having weird part time jobs, drinking PBR. Kinda becomes it's own uniform and conformity. I wonder if this was the similar percentage of people thought that beatniks were annoying in the 50's.
 
2013-05-13 02:50:15 PM  

Latinwolf: MelGoesOnTour: Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".

Then why don't you tell us what you think a hipster is?


Basically, they are self-important assholes who think they are "artists" or otherwise "more in-tune than everyone else".
 
2013-05-13 02:53:34 PM  
 
2013-05-13 02:53:57 PM  

The Flexecutioner: i googled NBA hipster and evidently it means having large red glasses.

but i also remembered this and didnt realize it was now on a t-shirt.

i kind of want it.  kind of.

[skreened.com image 760x760]


Oh god damn it! I'm trying to remember that guy's name! Kurt.... Damn it! Why am I so old?! And he was actually my hero when he played for the Lakers. Go Nerdy White Guy!!!
 
2013-05-13 02:54:43 PM  

NostroZ: Just to define hipsters:
[mootr.com image 450x303]

They typically ride bikes, have quirky interests/hobbies, and are anti-consumerist (may enjoy fashion, but shop at thrift stores... or make their own clothes, for girls... replace clothes with beer for guys).


Not really...gardening, sewing, farming, hunting, music, art, etc are not quirky. Maybe compared to where they grew up but not for many people in this country. A lot of my friends act more like a grandma than my grandma did. It's a modern take on blue collar culture in a lot of cases. The whiskey bar with taxidermy on the walls. The fancy roach coaches. Music with banjos...etc.

But every generation has their own style and codes. From zoot suits and disco divas to hipsters today. They are no different from the punk rock or grunge kids i had as friends.
 
2013-05-13 02:55:22 PM  

fireclown: NostroZ: Clearly, those Americans have never read the constitution or passed their civics exam to think that a group can be taxed purely because someone does not like them. It would fall under a type of Bill of Attainder, which is prohibited by Congress

hell, that's basicly the reasoning behind the movement to raise taxes on the superrich.

/not gonna be affected by THAT law.


I doubt "not liking them" is the reasoning behind taxing the rich. I'm fairly certain it has more to do with the fact that the rich have abused the system to the point of there being a disparity between the classes that calls for action considering the upper-class tax evasion professionals have kind of tilted the table and rigged the game in a manner that only include more for them and less for everybody else.
 
2013-05-13 02:56:56 PM  

Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.


The term "vast majority" is used by the vast majority of people that pull facts out of their collective ass.
 
2013-05-13 02:58:35 PM  
ironically, a large portion of that 42% are hipsters.
 
2013-05-13 03:00:22 PM  

Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.


It's the holier-than-thou attitude that comes with that package that people don't like and the fact they are usually living off of mommy and daddy still.
 
2013-05-13 03:04:02 PM  

Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.


Bingo.

The hipsters I've known over the years were broke as anything, bohemian because they were broke, creative types. They were also some of the most fool hardy brave people that I know. They would go to the worst neighborhoods because the rents were cheap and rent all the apartments and go to work into making the neighborhood a habitable place. Williamsburg was a blight that Detroit wouldn't venture to after dark before the hipsters moved in.

You want to rebuild the war torn Middle East? Start a rumor among hipsters that the rents there are dirt cheap, there's plenty of empty stores to set up shop and the local delis are good. Then sit back and watch them work. In a decade time, Afghanistan will look like Portland.
 
2013-05-13 03:05:57 PM  

Astorix: Except that hipsters are known for wearing skinny jeans, shopping at thrift stores, getting apartments in scary areas, having weird part time jobs, drinking PBR.


Maybe originally, but it's become a catch-all term.

Every time i hear it now i'm reminded of this guy from Fear and Loathing, and his classifications.
 
2013-05-13 03:14:04 PM  

mekki: You want to rebuild the war torn Middle East? Start a rumor among hipsters that the rents there are dirt cheap, there's plenty of empty stores to set up shop and the local delis are good. Then sit back and watch them work. In a decade time, Afghanistan will look like Portland.


I was just thinking that the would needs more artesional hummus.
 
2013-05-13 03:14:27 PM  
I want to see some hipster porn, if only to take them down a peg or two.
 
2013-05-13 03:14:53 PM  
Luckily, cracked.com has already covered this:

cdn-www.cracked.com
 
2013-05-13 03:18:02 PM  

mekki: Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.

Bingo.

The hipsters I've known over the years were broke as anything, bohemian because they were broke, creative types. They were also some of the most fool hardy brave people that I know. They would go to the worst neighborhoods because the rents were cheap and rent all the apartments and go to work into making the neighborhood a habitable place. Williamsburg was a blight that Detroit wouldn't venture to after dark before the hipsters moved in.

You want to rebuild the war torn Middle East? Start a rumor among hipsters that the rents there are dirt cheap, there's plenty of empty stores to set up shop and the local delis are good. Then sit back and watch them work. In a decade time, Afghanistan will look like Portland.


Sweet Christ, the poor Afghanis have already suffered decades of war, haven't they been through enough?
 
Ant
2013-05-13 03:18:34 PM  
I only hate them ironically
 
2013-05-13 03:18:55 PM  
I'd wager $87.30 that the vast majority of older responders to this poll thought that it was asking about hippies, instead of hipsters, which they have never even heard of.
 
2013-05-13 03:25:21 PM  

seventypercent: I'd wager $87.30 that the vast majority of older responders to this poll thought that it was asking about hippies, instead of hipsters, which they have never even heard of.


The oldster in question wouldn't be THAT far off  base.
 
2013-05-13 03:25:40 PM  

Astorix: J. Frank Parnell: Pretty much anyone who stands out in a crowd is now considered a hipster. Think they're so special, dressing differently. Conform you bastards!

Except that hipsters are known for wearing skinny jeans, shopping at thrift stores, getting apartments in scary areas, having weird part time jobs, drinking PBR. Kinda becomes it's own uniform and conformity. I wonder if this was the similar percentage of people thought that beatniks were annoying in the 50's.


This. Every generation has a style that starts off as "not conforming" and progresses to a uniform. Beat nicks, hippies, punks, grunge rockers, back to punk for some reason, emo, and now hipsters.

I think I kind of qualify... I have a hat collection, I'm a foodie, I buy stuff at the flea market, etc. However, I just plain like those things and don't really look like the traditional hipster (except for the ballin hat). I think the real line is "style over substance" as someone pointed out.
/haters gonna hate
 
2013-05-13 03:31:32 PM  
Hipsters are fine. People who self-identify over how 'obscure' they can be, drop their hobbies and complain once they become mainstream, and favor obscure activities just because they're obscure are annoying.

CSB: I knew someone (a self-identified hipster) who forced her boyfriend to stand there while she went antiquing, degraded and refused to participate in his hobbies because they were too mainstream, refused to go to social get-togethers if they included 'mainstream' stuff (popular movies, video games, etc), and altogether was dismissive of anything that didn't directly interest her. I spent time with her on a few occasions, and it was always what activity she wanted to force on us, not majority rules, not even trying to compromise.

People like her are the reason that all hipsters, no matter how humble, genuine, or laid back, have a bad rep.
 
2013-05-13 03:33:13 PM  

meat0918: Hipster is a generic catch all for "Stop liking things I don't like"


Not so much.

Most of my loathing for hipsters has been their taking over of fairly normal and pedestrian things for the sake of being ironic.
 
2013-05-13 03:34:32 PM  
At this point, hipster just means "anyone who likes stuff I don't like, and doesn't like my stuff"

Over the past few weeks in my real life, people have various described as "hipster" the following:

Using windows xp, using windows 7, using linux, using windows 8, using macos, liking any kind of music but 80s butt hair rock, preferring CD quality audio to mp3, liking music on vinyl, not liking music on vinyl, driving fuel efficient cars, driving fuel guzzling cars, driving anything other than a sedan, vegetarians, carnivores, omnivores, iphones, android phones, ubuntu phones, wine, top shelf whisky, mass produced shiatty beer, mass produced decent beer, craft beer, refrigerators, the rule of law.
 
2013-05-13 03:41:32 PM  
Know who else didn't like people who were different?
img.izismile.com
 
2013-05-13 03:45:50 PM  

thomps: Tatsuma: NostroZ: Probably the same 42% that thinks they will have to use guns to defend against those big city folk.

Mate, I like you, but you really need to drop bringing the right/tea parties into everything.

i  think that the broader point is valid though - "hipster" is just this amorphous word that people use to describe a general idea of something they hate, like "liberals" and "conservatives"


What about just using it to avoid people who describe themselves as such? Fair? I've met a few who quite proudly labeled themselves as hipsters. I thought it was kind of strange, if no other reason than that I was under the casual presumption that REAL hipsters (whatever those may be) shuddered at the label. Is that true?

Distrustful in general of people over the age of twenty or so who are so lacking in self-esteem or identity or whatever that they need to identify themselves with a broader social "group." I'm sure there are other ways to use the term, but so far, at least in my extended group of friends, it seems be code for a group of people who still have a high-school mentality as far as who's "in" and who's "out." And it seems to revolve around things like what restaurants you go to and whether or not you wear large frame glasses without the lenses in, rather than anything normal like who is a cool person to hang out with or where you can find good conversation. I don't know, maybe they're just friends with me because it's ironic to be.
/The worst is being labeled a hipster for simply liking something that you happen to like and they do too.
//I promise, in my case, it's not the glasses.
 
2013-05-13 03:46:30 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-13 03:47:05 PM  
People like to biatch about anyone/thing different from them.  Fact.
 
2013-05-13 03:54:15 PM  
A hipster is someone who chooses to live a lifestyle of intentional, self-aware cultural irony, whenever possible. It's the knowledge that they are doing something "different" for the sake of doing something different, not because it's something they likely truly enjoy. It's only the "otherness" that is enjoyed and that enjoyment lasts only long enough until the next gimmick comes along. Or, more accurately, the next gimmick is "remembered" since hipster cultural icons are from the past.

Example...someone never really played video games growing up but got their hands on a NES and some games. They hook it up on their TV (very likely an 80-90s model CRT) and have people over to play it at a party while drinking mint juleps and Pabst Blue Ribbons. Because "look at us, we have iPhones but are playing a 30 year old piece of technology and drinking funny drinks. Isn't this just zany?"

It's probably hipster to use the word "zany" too.
 
2013-05-13 03:54:17 PM  

Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.


Those are hippies. Not hipsters
 
2013-05-13 03:56:26 PM  
Just 16% of Americans have a favorable opinion of hipsters, a new PPP poll on the much-discussed subculture shows. 42% have an unfavorable opinion of hipsters, and 43% aren't sure don't care.
 
2013-05-13 03:57:51 PM  
 
2013-05-13 04:00:11 PM  

AgentBang: A hipster is someone who chooses to live a lifestyle of intentional, self-aware cultural irony, whenever possible. It's the knowledge that they are doing something "different" for the sake of doing something different, not because it's something they likely truly enjoy. It's only the "otherness" that is enjoyed and that enjoyment lasts only long enough until the next gimmick comes along. Or, more accurately, the next gimmick is "remembered" since hipster cultural icons are from the past.

Example...someone never really played video games growing up but got their hands on a NES and some games. They hook it up on their TV (very likely an 80-90s model CRT) and have people over to play it at a party while drinking mint juleps and Pabst Blue Ribbons. Because "look at us, we have iPhones but are playing a 30 year old piece of technology and drinking funny drinks. Isn't this just zany?"

It's probably hipster to use the word "zany" too.


Your little ditty reminded me of this:

"KNOW YOUR DOPE FIEND. YOUR LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT! You will not be able to see his eyes because of the Tea-Shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim. He will stagger and babble when questioned. He will not respect your badge. The Dope Fiend fears nothing. He will attack, for no reason, with every weapon at his command-including yours. BEWARE. Any officer apprehending a suspected marijuana addict should use all necessary force immediately. One stitch in time (on him) will usually save nine on you. Good luck."

..and this:   L. Ron Bumquist: The easiest way to do this is for each of us to try to imagine what is going on inside the possessed mind of a drug addict.  [holds up a joint] The dope fiend refers to the butt of a marijuana cigarette as a "roach". He does so because it resembles a cockroach.You will notice that I have distinguished four distinct types of being in the cannabis and marijuana society. They are "cool", "groovy", "hip" and "square". Seldom, if ever, does one aspire to be "square". If he can figure out what is "happening", he can rise one notch to become "hip", and if he can convince himself to approve of what is "happening", he can become "groovy".  [ominously] Groovy! And then he raise himself to the rank of "cool". He can become one of those... "cool guys".
 
2013-05-13 04:01:00 PM  
Who is it that benefits when the media invents a group of people to hate?  And how?

/Hipsters
//Yuppies
///Boomers
 
2013-05-13 04:10:04 PM  
I miss the '90s when the cool girls were goths.
 
2013-05-13 04:11:29 PM  

Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.


Would you mind taking some time and spelling it out so I can be sure I know what I don't like? Serious request/question.
 
2013-05-13 04:12:42 PM  

lilbjorn: Who is it that benefits when the media invents a group of people to hate?  And how?

/Hipsters
//Yuppies
///Boomers


/Yummies (Youngish Upwardly Mobile Mothers)
//Slimies (Snivelling Lawyers, Indecently Machiavellian)
 
2013-05-13 04:13:27 PM  

bruegel: Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.

It's the holier-than-thou attitude that comes with that package that people don't like and the fact they are usually living off of mommy and daddy still.


Yep, add onto the fact that not all their ideas are so original, but they'll certainly play pretend that the mixed outfit made from Goth, Punk, Hippie, and Grunge subcultures' styles is an original creation of theirs and may go to the extent of trying to change the definition of that subculture's idea into something palatable to them. (for example: alot of Goth bands I listen to get slapped with the "Post Punk" label, even if they're beyond the time period (beyond 1st Generation Goth bands) that it could even be labeled as "Post Punk" [which is a stupid definition in my opinion]; this happens on both Wikipedia, music stores (when I am trying to find new CDs to buy), and just accidently wandering into a Hipster venue because of a song you hear from the outside that's from a Goth band (e.g. The Wake, Mission UK, and others) and you get blasted because to them "This isn't Goth, it's Post Punk!")
 
2013-05-13 04:14:52 PM  

Mugato: I miss the '90s when the cool girls were goths.


Here here! :-D
 
2013-05-13 04:20:05 PM  

Skarekrough: meat0918: Hipster is a generic catch all for "Stop liking things I don't like"

Not so much.

Most of my loathing for hipsters has been their taking over of fairly normal and pedestrian things for the sake of being ironic.


I've yet to see this caricature outside of the media, and I live in a supposed mecca of hipsterdom (Oregon).

I see and know people that do some crazy, offbeat, and counter-culture things, but no where on the list of reasons about why they do something is the item "being ironic".

The goddamn fermentation cult in town comes to mind.  I swear, they worship Sandor Katz and Sally Fallon.  I dropped by a food preservation show in town because I wanted to see what others were doing with all the veggies and fruits you can grow or buy (and talk to the OSU Master Preservation people about taking their course).

I love homemade sauerkraut and pickles and beer, but wtf people, it's just food.

//And fark Kombucha.
 
2013-05-13 04:20:21 PM  
In unrelated news, 42% of Americans haven't changed their hairstyle since 1982.
 
2013-05-13 04:23:39 PM  
If this is true, then, according to the AP, that means 9 out of 10 Americans like hipsters.
 
2013-05-13 04:28:55 PM  

StinkyFiddlewinks: Would you mind taking some time and spelling it out so I can be sure I know what I don't like? Serious request/question.


Star Trek reboot, Nicki Minja, Chris Brown, New Coke, Charlie Sheen, Taylor Swift, recent Al Pacino movies and well done steak
 
2013-05-13 04:35:32 PM  

Tatsuma: well done steak


Finally, something in this thread to actually get upset over.

Well done steak, a crime against meat.
 
2013-05-13 04:47:20 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".


QFT
 
2013-05-13 04:53:19 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".


Please define it, then.
 
2013-05-13 04:53:35 PM  

Tatsuma: StinkyFiddlewinks: Would you mind taking some time and spelling it out so I can be sure I know what I don't like? Serious request/question.

Star Trek reboot, Nicki Minja, Chris Brown, New Coke, Charlie Sheen, Taylor Swift, recent Al Pacino movies and well done steak


I don't know if I should laugh at this or just sigh at the fact that it's completely inaccurate Tats. Maybe you should stick to the Jewish threads, except starting tomorrow of course for Shavuot till it's over Thursday night. :)

A Hipster is a man or woman who goes out of their way to be "non-conforming" or "anti-mainstream" simply for the sake of being "non-conforming" or "anti-mainstream". They don't do it for self gratification and/or to better themselves, but instead obsess over the fact that they are "better" than others who have not decided on making similar striving to "not conform". Many of the things they do for fashion is inexplicable in many ways, as in they are supposed to not look alike supposedly being proudly not conforming, but instead they all look and act in a quite similar manner.  Many of the men (and some of the women) conform to skinny jeans, 50's style "nerd" glasses' thick rims (in many cases, when the person doesn't need glasses), plaid shirts/jackets, grandpa hats or knit winter caps (in the summer!), and different styles of boots to mismatched socks. It's almost like (though not really, as that custom of conforming has been going on for a while and is part of the culture, as opposed to Hipsters "non-conforming" by everyone conforming to the similar Hipster styles!) walking through an Orthodox neighborhood, where the men usually wear black suits with white shirts, tzizit hanging down, and kippahs (or black rimmed hats on top of the kipot) on their heads and the women wearing ankle length skirts, wrist length shirts, and a snood; due to that being what everyone else does as part of the group despite the fact that you can wear other things and remain tznius.

All the things you mention are part of the "mainstream" that Hipsters claim to be against, yet if they do listen to a mainstream song or some other form of mainstream media, they will feign their actual liking of it by claiming to another Hipster, "I am only enjoying it ironically" which means that Hipsters can't even own up to the fact that they can enjoy something outside their "non-conformist" bubble.
 
2013-05-13 04:53:41 PM  

Tatsuma: The vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place. It's one of the top 3 most misused word on the internet, along with emo and troll.


Because it is such an obscure and arcane subculture...
 
2013-05-13 04:59:09 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: I don't know if I should laugh at this


... it was a list of what that particular person doesn't like.

And your definition of hipster is wrong.
 
2013-05-13 05:00:23 PM  

santadog: People like to biatch about anyone/thing different from them.  Fact.


Nah, fark that. Hipsters are annoying. And not because they're "different." Today's hipster is just an over-eager and painfully self-aware parody of the bohemian culture that took form about a half-generation back. That was pretty much my reference group growing up.

I think I get them just fine. I just don't like them...
 
2013-05-13 05:02:28 PM  

Tatsuma: DarkSoulNoHope: I don't know if I should laugh at this

... it was a list of what that particular person doesn't like.

And your definition of hipster is wrong.


How so? What is your definition of Hipster? And why do you defend them when I thought you went all Baal Teshuva on us and ran off to Israel (I could be wrong on that one, got that info from other posters :-P ), which would mean that it's highly doubtful that you're a hipster.
 
2013-05-13 05:14:04 PM  

Bravo Two: IP: Also relevant.

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It was quite entertaining.
 
2013-05-13 05:22:40 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: bruegel: Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.

It's the holier-than-thou attitude that comes with that package that people don't like and the fact they are usually living off of mommy and daddy still.

Yep, add onto the fact that not all their ideas are so original, but they'll certainly play pretend that the mixed outfit made from Goth, Punk, Hippie, and Grunge subcultures' styles is an original creation of theirs and may go to the extent of trying to change the definition of that subculture's idea into something palatable to them. (for example: alot of Goth bands I listen to get slapped with the "Post Punk" label, even if they're beyond the time period (beyond 1st Generation Goth bands) that it could even be labeled as "Post Punk" [which is a stupid definition in my opinion]; this happens on both Wikipedia, music stores (when I am trying to find new CDs to buy), and just accidently wandering into a Hipster venue because of a song you hear from the outside that's from a Goth band (e.g. The Wake, Mission UK, and others) and you get blasted because to them "This isn't Goth, it's Post Punk!")


no hope indeed
 
2013-05-13 05:24:23 PM  
... post-punk is a specific style of music, it doesn't related to a certain period.

no farking hope indeed.
 
2013-05-13 05:45:55 PM  

Tatsuma: ... post-punk is a specific style of music, it doesn't related to a certain period.

no farking hope indeed.


You still didn't answer my question about what your definition of Hipster is (other than that very vague mentioning of pop-cultural references, which has nothing to do with modern Hipsterism) or why you're defending them.

Plus, my argument that Post-Punk is a time period than a style comes from two ideas, one is the fact that the bands who started the Goth rock scene who were formerly playing Punk style music (e.g. Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Damned, Joy Division, Bauhaus) never called themselves "Post Punk", that term came from a magazine who didn't know how to describe this new sound (that eventually became "Goth rock" around the time The Sisters of Mercy put out their first album in 85'). The British precursor term to Goth Rock was "Positive Punk" (don't know how they came up with that one, Goth rock usually isn't "positive" music!) and the American precursor term to Goth Rock was "Deathrock", the two groups eventually merged scenes and terms into "Goth" around the mid 80s and it's been that way ever since. Secondly, even Ian Curtis (lead singer of Joy Division, the band that everyone espouses as the primary "Post Punk" band) even mentioned to a reporter that pointed out the changes to Warsaw (prior band name before they settled on Joy Division) changing it's music style is going in a "Gothic direction". Basically anything that occurs after Punk rock could be considered "Post-Punk" due to that musical style that originated after the time period the Punk style of music started. (e.g. Grunge? Nope, "It's Post Punk". Gangster Rap? Nope, "It's Post Punk"  Dubstep? Nope, "It's Post Punk", ect)
 
2013-05-13 06:05:20 PM  

thomps: i  think that the broader point is valid though - "hipster" is just this amorphous word that people use to describe a general idea of something they hate, like "liberals" and "conservatives"


Or "arabs".
 
2013-05-13 06:12:03 PM  
 
2013-05-13 06:21:11 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Tatsuma: ... post-punk is a specific style of music, it doesn't related to a certain period.

no farking hope indeed.

You still didn't answer my question about what your definition of Hipster is (other than that very vague mentioning of pop-cultural references, which has nothing to do with modern Hipsterism) or why you're defending them.

Plus, my argument that Post-Punk is a time period than a style comes from two ideas, one is the fact that the bands who started the Goth rock scene who were formerly playing Punk style music (e.g. Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Damned, Joy Division, Bauhaus) never called themselves "Post Punk", that term came from a magazine who didn't know how to describe this new sound (that eventually became "Goth rock" around the time The Sisters of Mercy put out their first album in 85'). The British precursor term to Goth Rock was "Positive Punk" (don't know how they came up with that one, Goth rock usually isn't "positive" music!) and the American precursor term to Goth Rock was "Deathrock", the two groups eventually merged scenes and terms into "Goth" around the mid 80s and it's been that way ever since. Secondly, even Ian Curtis (lead singer of Joy Division, the band that everyone espouses as the primary "Post Punk" band) even mentioned to a reporter that pointed out the changes to Warsaw (prior band name before they settled on Joy Division) changing it's music style is going in a "Gothic direction". Basically anything that occurs after Punk rock could be considered "Post-Punk" due to that musical style that originated after the time period the Punk style of music started. (e.g. Grunge? Nope, "It's Post Punk". Gangster Rap? Nope, "It's Post Punk"  Dubstep? Nope, "It's Post Punk", ect)


Link
 
2013-05-13 06:25:00 PM  

Tatsuma: MelGoesOnTour: Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".

Please define it, then.


To reiterate my earlier post:

http://www.fark.com/comments/7748237/-42-of-Americans-have-an-unfavor a ble-view-of-hipsters-Subby-had-an-unfavorable-view-of-them-before-it-w as-mainstream?startid=84182946#c84183390" title="Quote" class="quoteComment" style="color: rgb(61, 61, 175); text-decoration: none; background-image: url(http://img.fark.net/images/2012/site/commentSprite.png); background-color: transparent; width: 16px; height: 16px; text-indent: -9999px; display: inline-block; background-position: 0px -32px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "> MelGoesOnTour: Hmmm, I dunno---to me, at least, it's pretty clear what a hipster is so I'm not sure why anyone would say " the vast majority of people who hate hipsters have no farking idea what a hipster is in the first place".

Then why don't you tell us what you think a hipster is?


Basically, they are self-important assholes who think they are "artists" or otherwise "more in-tune than everyone else".
 
2013-05-13 06:31:45 PM  

LewDux: Link


Yep

MelGoesOnTour: Basically, they are self-important assholes who think they are "artists" or otherwise "more in-tune than everyone else".


Please refer to the video right above your post for my reaction, tia
 
2013-05-13 06:36:35 PM  
If I understand hipsterism correctly, the most hipster thing you can possibly do is not be a hipster.

/glares
 
2013-05-13 06:37:11 PM  

LewDux: DarkSoulNoHope: Tatsuma: ... post-punk is a specific style of music, it doesn't related to a certain period.

no farking hope indeed.

You still didn't answer my question about what your definition of Hipster is (other than that very vague mentioning of pop-cultural references, which has nothing to do with modern Hipsterism) or why you're defending them.

Plus, my argument that Post-Punk is a time period than a style comes from two ideas, one is the fact that the bands who started the Goth rock scene who were formerly playing Punk style music (e.g. Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Damned, Joy Division, Bauhaus) never called themselves "Post Punk", that term came from a magazine who didn't know how to describe this new sound (that eventually became "Goth rock" around the time The Sisters of Mercy put out their first album in 85'). The British precursor term to Goth Rock was "Positive Punk" (don't know how they came up with that one, Goth rock usually isn't "positive" music!) and the American precursor term to Goth Rock was "Deathrock", the two groups eventually merged scenes and terms into "Goth" around the mid 80s and it's been that way ever since. Secondly, even Ian Curtis (lead singer of Joy Division, the band that everyone espouses as the primary "Post Punk" band) even mentioned to a reporter that pointed out the changes to Warsaw (prior band name before they settled on Joy Division) changing it's music style is going in a "Gothic direction". Basically anything that occurs after Punk rock could be considered "Post-Punk" due to that musical style that originated after the time period the Punk style of music started. (e.g. Grunge? Nope, "It's Post Punk". Gangster Rap? Nope, "It's Post Punk"  Dubstep? Nope, "It's Post Punk", ect)

Link


Nice, instead of responding to my post with an intelligent retort of why in your opinion that I'm "wrong", you instead show a scene from Naked Gun 33 and 1/3. I really love trolls, they make arguments so much easier with their "Nuh-uhs!"
 
2013-05-13 06:37:33 PM  
Fark is immune to hipsters for the simple reason that NOTHING IS OBSCURE ON FARK.
 
2013-05-13 06:46:55 PM  
 
2013-05-13 07:00:55 PM  

Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.


Is that supposed to be the actual definition of "hipster?"  Because I don't see where the types of clothing being worn, the types of beer being drank, and etc fits into that.
 
2013-05-13 07:12:07 PM  
60% do not know what hipsters are, have them confused with hippies.
 
2013-05-13 07:24:27 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: LewDux: DarkSoulNoHope: Tatsuma: ... post-punk is a specific style of music, it doesn't related to a certain period.

no farking hope indeed.

You still didn't answer my question about what your definition of Hipster is (other than that very vague mentioning of pop-cultural references, which has nothing to do with modern Hipsterism) or why you're defending them.

Plus, my argument that Post-Punk is a time period than a style comes from two ideas, one is the fact that the bands who started the Goth rock scene who were formerly playing Punk style music (e.g. Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Damned, Joy Division, Bauhaus) never called themselves "Post Punk", that term came from a magazine who didn't know how to describe this new sound (that eventually became "Goth rock" around the time The Sisters of Mercy put out their first album in 85'). The British precursor term to Goth Rock was "Positive Punk" (don't know how they came up with that one, Goth rock usually isn't "positive" music!) and the American precursor term to Goth Rock was "Deathrock", the two groups eventually merged scenes and terms into "Goth" around the mid 80s and it's been that way ever since. Secondly, even Ian Curtis (lead singer of Joy Division, the band that everyone espouses as the primary "Post Punk" band) even mentioned to a reporter that pointed out the changes to Warsaw (prior band name before they settled on Joy Division) changing it's music style is going in a "Gothic direction". Basically anything that occurs after Punk rock could be considered "Post-Punk" due to that musical style that originated after the time period the Punk style of music started. (e.g. Grunge? Nope, "It's Post Punk". Gangster Rap? Nope, "It's Post Punk"  Dubstep? Nope, "It's Post Punk", ect)

Link

Nice, instead of responding to my post with an intelligent retort of why in your opinion that I'm "wrong", you instead show a scene from Naked Gun 33 and 1/3. I really love trolls, they make arguments so much easier with their ...


Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results =
 
2013-05-13 07:25:20 PM  
There's a lot of hipster denial in this thread.
 
2013-05-13 07:27:46 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Tatsuma: StinkyFiddlewinks: Would you mind taking some time and spelling it out so I can be sure I know what I don't like? Serious request/question.

Star Trek reboot, Nicki Minja, Chris Brown, New Coke, Charlie Sheen, Taylor Swift, recent Al Pacino movies and well done steak

I don't know if I should laugh at this or just sigh at the fact that it's completely inaccurate Tats. Maybe you should stick to the Jewish threads, except starting tomorrow of course for Shavuot till it's over Thursday night. :)

A Hipster is a man or woman who goes out of their way to be "non-conforming" or "anti-mainstream" simply for the sake of being "non-conforming" or "anti-mainstream". They don't do it for self gratification and/or to better themselves, but instead obsess over the fact that they are "better" than others who have not decided on making similar striving to "not conform". Many of the things they do for fashion is inexplicable in many ways, as in they are supposed to not look alike supposedly being proudly not conforming, but instead they all look and act in a quite similar manner.  Many of the men (and some of the women) conform to skinny jeans, 50's style "nerd" glasses' thick rims (in many cases, when the person doesn't need glasses), plaid shirts/jackets, grandpa hats or knit winter caps (in the summer!), and different styles of boots to mismatched socks. It's almost like (though not really, as that custom of conforming has been going on for a while and is part of the culture, as opposed to Hipsters "non-conforming" by everyone conforming to the similar Hipster styles!) walking through an Orthodox neighborhood, where the men usually wear black suits with white shirts, tzizit hanging down, and kippahs (or black rimmed hats on top of the kipot) on their heads and the women wearing ankle length skirts, wrist length shirts, and a snood; due to that being what everyone else does as part of the group despite the fact that you can wear other things and remain tznius.

All the t ...


I don't actually believe any of this happens in real life. Not on any kind of grand scale.

You are just describing "fake douchebags" and applying the hipster label to them. There are fake douchebags of all stripes.
 
2013-05-13 07:33:45 PM  

uncoveror: 60% do not know what hipsters are, have them confused with hippies.


One doesn't need to know the difference between mites and chiggers to know they don't really want to be around either, and for much the same reason.
 
2013-05-13 07:46:24 PM  

Bumblefark: uncoveror: 60% do not know what hipsters are, have them confused with hippies.

One doesn't need to know the difference between mites and chiggers to know they don't really want to be around either, and for much the same reason.




There have always been pretentious twits, and there always will be. The new angle seems to be taking the worst phase of being a teenager, and trying to stretch it out over a couple of decades.
 
2013-05-13 07:46:38 PM  

Bumblefark: santadog: People like to biatch about anyone/thing different from them.  Fact.

Nah, fark that. Hipsters are annoying. And not because they're "different." Today's hipster is just an over-eager and painfully self-aware parody of the bohemian culture that took form about a half-generation back. That was pretty much my reference group growing up.

I think I get them just fine. I just don't like them...


With trust funds.  Don't forget the trust funds.
 
2013-05-13 08:02:01 PM  

LewDux: DarkSoulNoHope: Nice, instead of responding to my post with an intelligent retort of why in your opinion that I'm "wrong", you instead show a scene from Naked Gun 33 and 1/3. I really love trolls, they make arguments so much easier with their ...

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results =


You're still not replying to the point I made, instead you're just putting out links. Plus you're trolling in the same manner you did in the thread you linked to. But at least we're both consistent, I make a long and detailed description of why I believe "Post-Punk" is a shiatty title to infer to musical styles, and how they're used by hipsters to mislabel some bands and you do This.
 
2013-05-13 08:20:01 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Carth: If Hipsters are the people who buy from small independent business instead of box stores, support local farmers instead of buying their food at Sam's Club and buy used or made in America clothes instead of cheap imported articles from Asia while spending their free time doing a random hobby they enjoy and creating something instead of just consuming whatever content is on TV i think the country would be a lot better with more hipsters.

Those are hippies. Not hipsters


I just got back from a few weeks in Park Slope. I'm not sure I can tell the difference between hippies and hipsters anymore. I guess artisanal pickles  weren't that big in the 60s. And as much as i wanted to hate the pickle makers they were all really nice guys who were passionate about what they did.
 
2013-05-13 08:51:58 PM  

Pucca: Hipster is a younger person? Huh.. didn't know that. My friend is in his 40's and is (what I thought) the very definitely of hipster. Goes out of his way to talk about obscure movies and music. Plus he pretty much thinks he's better than everyone else because he would never set foot in a mainstream restaurant!  He even dresses his newborn son in "hipster" clothes so to speak. Honeslty, the little guy does look cute in them. Plus he doesn't need glasses but wears big geeky black ones that make me want to smack him, but hey .. we all have our quirks I guess.

I could be wrong and he may just be annoying and not a hipster. I just think of that when I see/talk to him.


He's so annoying that I'm annoyed just reading about him.  These people deserve to be taxed.

// I have a 3 wolf moon t-shirt.  I wear it ironically.
/// The t-shirt absolutely works.  It's got THREE wolves.
 
2013-05-13 08:53:29 PM  

FrancoFile: Bumblefark: santadog: People like to biatch about anyone/thing different from them.  Fact.

Nah, fark that. Hipsters are annoying. And not because they're "different." Today's hipster is just an over-eager and painfully self-aware parody of the bohemian culture that took form about a half-generation back. That was pretty much my reference group growing up.

I think I get them just fine. I just don't like them...

With trust funds.  Don't forget the trust funds.


Yep. Actually, watching the hipster scourge unfold reminds me of when grunge went mainstream. Funny as hell watching a bunch of bourgeois brats shelling out big bucks at upscale clothing stores for that "authentic" Northwest, underground look...

...when that "look" had nothing to do with much of anything except the fact that the Northwest is cold, it's logging country, and it's poor. So, shiat like flannel shirts are going to be about 90% of what you find in your average thrift store, which is where poor artist/musician types are going to have to do their shopping....
 
2013-05-13 09:07:43 PM  

NMTurtlelady: The Flexecutioner: i googled NBA hipster and evidently it means having large red glasses.

but i also remembered this and didnt realize it was now on a t-shirt.

i kind of want it.  kind of.

[skreened.com image 760x760]

Oh god damn it! I'm trying to remember that guy's name! Kurt.... Damn it! Why am I so old?! And he was actually my hero when he played for the Lakers. Go Nerdy White Guy!!!


Wow, cant believe some on here didnt give you an answer to the t-shirt.  It's Kurt Rambis and he was one of my favorites on a team I hated at the time (was a celtics fan).  but i wore glasses and had to wear a strap to keep them on and the teasing i got was royally awful. but he kept me going until i quit basketball a year later for swimming.  i was 10 and terribly uncoordinated anyway so it all worked out.  and i was already prepared for goggles with my glasses straps.
 
2013-05-13 09:10:53 PM  
I also have a BMW motorcycle.  I've owned it since long before it never became mainstream.
 
2013-05-13 10:09:37 PM  
I don't even know what a hipster is. I don't get that song about dressing like hipsters.
 
2013-05-13 10:20:27 PM  

TheGogmagog: I don't even know what a hipster is. I don't get that song about dressing like hipsters.


It's Taylor Swift mocking a certain subset of people who don't like her songs. It's not meant to be taken seriously or a critique of hipsterdom.
 
2013-05-13 11:25:06 PM  
This post is hip
 
2013-05-14 12:05:28 AM  

NostroZ: thomps: Tatsuma: NostroZ: Probably the same 42% that thinks they will have to use guns to defend against those big city folk.

Mate, I like you, but you really need to drop bringing the right/tea parties into everything.

i  think that the broader point is valid though - "hipster" is just this amorphous word that people use to describe a general idea of something they hate, like "liberals" and "conservatives"

Yeah.  I've vistied people in West Virginia and personally I'm cool with fiscal conservatives.

Hipster is a deragatory word that's used to describe people that are the 'other'... in my neighborhood hipsters are usually artists, theater, music, culinary, beer, fashion interested people.  No body in their right mind would call each other a hipster, we describe one another by our interests.

What I was trying to say is it's an insult and even the survey is VERY biased to use a term like SOULLESS.
"soullessly appropriate cultural tropes from the past for their own ironic amusement."

It's an old person insulting the youth, saying that when THEY appropriated the old culture, it was SOULFUL.
But now, it's done SOULLESSLY.,, it's an insult by someone who does not know who a hipster is really.


tl;dr
 
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2013-05-14 01:34:17 AM  
Are hipsters those asshats that feel that they they need to experience an art museum by viewing through their iphone as they step in front of everyone else looking at the paintings, so that they may snap photos of every goddamn painting in the place...then post the painting online as they walk to the next painting, stepping in front of the people viewing the paintings....and on and on.... I swear, I just want to start slapping phones out of these farker's hands and scream at them "LIFE IS OUT HERE, NOT IN THERE!". end of rant...
 
2013-05-14 03:49:00 AM  

TheGogmagog: I don't even know what a hipster is. I don't get that song about dressing like hipsters.


First time I heard that song I thought she said "dress up like hamsters". That would have been more interesting.
 
2013-05-14 05:24:57 AM  
So I go back to my hometown and stop by an old dive bar I used to frequent cause they used to have $1.50 well drinks.  I go in and it's.... well it went hipster.  They've now got 175 different kinds of bourbon which was good because I wanted a double bourbon and coke to get a buzz started.  Handlebar mustache behind the bar doesn't want to "ruin" the bourbon with sugary mixer.  I grew up close enough to a distillery to smell the mash every single day of my childhood.  I've forgotten more about bourbon than this twait will ever know.  But I wanted a cheap drunk and he's being petulant about his precious elixer being adulterated.  So I ask him if he's so particular, why is everyone there drinking farking Stroh's and PBR?  He said that different those are "blue collar beers".  So I told him to make me a blue collar highball before I shaved his mustache the hard way.  He came to his senses after that.
 
2013-05-14 06:21:10 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: LewDux: DarkSoulNoHope: Nice, instead of responding to my post with an intelligent retort of why in your opinion that I'm "wrong", you instead show a scene from Naked Gun 33 and 1/3. I really love trolls, they make arguments so much easier with their ...

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results =

You're still not replying to the point I made, instead you're just putting out links. Plus you're trolling in the same manner you did in the thread you linked to. But at least we're both consistent, I make a long and detailed description of why I believe "Post-Punk" is a shiatty title to infer to musical styles, and how they're used by hipsters to mislabel some bands and you do This.


Farkers more eloquent than me explained it to you in at least 2 threads
/Post-punk : Goth :: Midwestern United States : Ohio
 
2013-05-14 09:15:00 AM  

Ebbelwoi: So I go back to my hometown and stop by an old dive bar I used to frequent cause they used to have $1.50 well drinks. I go in and it's.... well it went hipster. They've now got 175 different kinds of bourbon which was good because I wanted a double bourbon and coke to get a buzz started. Handlebar mustache behind the bar doesn't want to "ruin" the bourbon with sugary mixer. I grew up close enough to a distillery to smell the mash every single day of my childhood. I've forgotten more about bourbon than this twait will ever know. But I wanted a cheap drunk and he's being petulant about his precious elixer being adulterated. So I ask him if he's so particular, why is everyone there drinking farking Stroh's and PBR? He said that different those are "blue collar beers". So I told him to make me a blue collar highball before I shaved his mustache the hard way. He came to his senses after that.


So you went to a place of business, and when the owner of the place said that they didn't serve what you wanted, you threatened physical violence until you got it?

Do you realize how much of a huge asshole that makes you look like? We're talking
i.imgur.com
here.
 
2013-05-14 10:49:44 AM  

LewDux: DarkSoulNoHope: LewDux: DarkSoulNoHope: Nice, instead of responding to my post with an intelligent retort of why in your opinion that I'm "wrong", you instead show a scene from Naked Gun 33 and 1/3. I really love trolls, they make arguments so much easier with their ...

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results =

You're still not replying to the point I made, instead you're just putting out links. Plus you're trolling in the same manner you did in the thread you linked to. But at least we're both consistent, I make a long and detailed description of why I believe "Post-Punk" is a shiatty title to infer to musical styles, and how they're used by hipsters to mislabel some bands and you do This.

Farkers more eloquent than me explained it to you in at least 2 threads
/Post-punk : Goth :: Midwestern United States : Ohio


Why don't you link me directly to their responses that you believe you agree with? Or just copy them and post them on this thread then so you can "win" the argument with barely any work at it whatsoever! (because in the threads you mentioned, I haven't seen anyone make a comment on what particular common *style* Post Punk portrays in a similar manner to each band that apparently plays it) As for Hipsterism and what it is, since you and Tats love saying "No one knows what it really is, so they don't know what they're making fun of", I'll just leave this here since you like links. (forgive his William Shatner impression though, lol)
 
2013-05-14 12:04:14 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Why don't you link me


Tatsuma: ... post-punk is a specific style of music, it doesn't related to a certain period.


DarkSoulNoHope: I'll just leave this


Too much irony
 
2013-05-14 12:17:00 PM  

LewDux: Too much irony


Yeah I mean the stupidity of associating post-punk with a certain period rather than musical genre broke my brain to the point I couldn't even write that sentence without the end going 'it doesn't related'.

I swear this is one of the stupidest things I've seen on Fark, and someone just accused me of saying that Ricky Gervais has been struggling doing something funny since Extras because he's not a zionist.

Yet the post-punk shiat is even more retarded.
 
2013-05-14 12:24:33 PM  
Damn, you won again:(
 
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2013-05-14 12:35:13 PM  
At the Stanley Kubrick exhibit at LACMA...actually at the gift shop grabbing a couple of cheap blue rays of Kubrick films. Hipster couple walks up, picks up a copy of Lolita. Girl hipster says "I'm gonna buy this." Guy hipster scoffs and tells the girl "No way, that's not nearly obscure enough."   My internal reaction was simply curiosity, wondering how I had stumbled upon buffoons who were so blatantly proving stereotypes to be real...then the guy says "Surely we can find some Kubrick films online, on VHS or something, that no one knows about."  I laughed audibly at them. They were confused. I was entertained.
 
2013-05-14 12:36:33 PM  

VTC: At the Stanley Kubrick exhibit at LACMA...actually at the gift shop grabbing a couple of cheap blue rays of Kubrick films. Hipster couple walks up, picks up a copy of Lolita. Girl hipster says "I'm gonna buy this." Guy hipster scoffs and tells the girl "No way, that's not nearly obscure enough."   My internal reaction was simply curiosity, wondering how I had stumbled upon buffoons who were so blatantly proving stereotypes to be real...then the guy says "Surely we can find some Kubrick films online, on VHS or something, that no one knows about."  I laughed audibly at them. They were confused. I was entertained.


Yeah that story never happened.
 
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2013-05-14 12:41:23 PM  
Doubt all you want. I was shocked at the whole scene myself....It didn't feel like reality, but in fact was. Oh, maybe I'm supposed to have an IPHOne and film it, or else it didn't really happen....?
 
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2013-05-14 12:59:27 PM  
HAHAHAHA! Tatsuma...I just noticed that you posted the contents of your ipod on your fark profile. LOL! Is that supposed to count as hipster street cred? Are you going to list your 8 track collection next? HAHAAHHAAHHHAAAA!
 
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