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(The New York Times)   New NBC News President Deborah Turness says that "news is the best drama on television." Second best drama continues to be Matt Lauer's status on "Today"   (nytimes.com) divider line 28
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2013-05-13 10:53:35 AM  
And people wonder why the US press is awful
 
2013-05-13 11:00:19 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: And people wonder why the US press is awful


Done in one.  When you say crap like that Deb, then you wonder why Jon Stewart tears your news division a new one, you really have to start thinking about a new career path.
 
2013-05-13 11:09:41 AM  
Yet, most of the reporting is comedy
 
2013-05-13 11:10:01 AM  
Their purpose is to serve advertisers.
 
2013-05-13 11:15:42 AM  
Which is why I haven't watched the news in 10? 15? years.
 
2013-05-13 11:19:41 AM  
And she is British to boot
 
2013-05-13 11:20:15 AM  
This is why American "news" sucks, you idiotess.
If senior management thinks this way, the future is bleak, nay, black, for the stupid programs they unctuate regularly.

Ted Koppel on Nightline, ftw.
 
2013-05-13 11:29:24 AM  

Rwa2play: Peter von Nostrand: And people wonder why the US press is awful

Done in one.  When you say crap like that Deb, then you wonder why Jon Stewart tears your news division a new one, you really have to start thinking about a new career path.


Except, tragically, NBC News is the best of the bunch, and even Stewart admits it (although all complaints should sent to 30 Rockefeller Plaza, c/o Brian Williams).
 
2013-05-13 12:00:09 PM  

Rwa2play: Done in one. When you say crap like that Deb, then you wonder why Jon Stewart tears your news division a new one, you really have to start thinking about a new career path.


But Jon Stewart isn't a news anchor and he's not on a news show. It's like the Onion, only it's the viewpoints that are the joke. As in "See how silly this is, some people actually believe it!". The fact that people take him seriously is amusing.
 
2013-05-13 12:09:12 PM  

RevRaven: Rwa2play: Done in one. When you say crap like that Deb, then you wonder why Jon Stewart tears your news division a new one, you really have to start thinking about a new career path.

But Jon Stewart isn't a news anchor and he's not on a news show. It's like the Onion, only it's the viewpoints that are the joke. As in "See how silly this is, some people actually believe it!". The fact that people take him seriously is amusing.


....you never read "King Lear" have you?
 
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2013-05-13 12:10:27 PM  

RevRaven: Rwa2play: Done in one. When you say crap like that Deb, then you wonder why Jon Stewart tears your news division a new one, you really have to start thinking about a new career path.

But Jon Stewart isn't a news anchor and he's not on a news show. It's like the Onion, only it's the viewpoints that are the joke. As in "See how silly this is, some people actually believe it!". The fact that people take him seriously is amusing.



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2013-05-13 12:12:04 PM  

Trocadero: Rwa2play: Peter von Nostrand: And people wonder why the US press is awful

Done in one.  When you say crap like that Deb, then you wonder why Jon Stewart tears your news division a new one, you really have to start thinking about a new career path.

Except, tragically, NBC News is the best of the bunch, and even Stewart admits it (although all complaints should sent to 30 Rockefeller Plaza, c/o Brian Williams).


...and that's why I get my news from the BBC or Al-Jazeera.

You know, for all the higher education these execs get, you'd think a little "outside-the-box" thinking or common sense would be a difference-maker.
 
2013-05-13 12:36:49 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: And people wonder why the US press is awful


"Good evening, I'm Will McAvoy, this is News Night and that was a clip of Richard Clark, former counter terrorism chief to President George W. Bush, testifying before Congress on March 24, 2004. Americans like that moment. I like that moment. Adults should hold themselves accountable for failure. And so tonight, I'm beginning this newscast by joining Mr. Clark and apologizing to the American people for our failure - the failure of this program during the time I've been in charge of it to successfully inform and educate the American electorate.

Let me be clear that I don't apologize on behalf of all broadcast journalists, nor do all broadcast journalists owe an apology. I speak for myself. I was an accomplice to a slow and repeated and unacknowledged and unamended train wreck of failures that have brought us to now. I'm a leader in an industry that miscalled election results, hyped up terror scares, ginned up controversy and failed to report on tectonic shifts in our country, from the collapse of the financial system to the truths about how strong we are to the dangers we actually face. I'm a leader in an industry that misdirected your attention with the dexterity of Harry Houdini, while sending hundreds of thousands of our bravest young men and women off to war without due diligence.

The reason we failed isn't a mystery - we took a dive for the ratings.

In the infancy of mass communication, the Columbus and Magellan of broadcast journalism, William Paley and David Sarnoff, went down to Washington to cut a deal with Congress. Congress would allow the fledgling networks free use of taxpayer-owned airwaves in exchange for one public service. That public service would be one hour of airtime set aside every night for informational broadcasting, or what we now call the evening news.

Congress, unable to anticipate the enormous capacity television would have to deliver consumers to advertisers, failed to include in its deal the one requirement that would have changed our national discourse immeasurably for the better - Congress forgot to add that under no circumstances could there be paid advertising during informational broadcasting. They forgot to say the taxpayers will give you the airwaves for free and for 23 hours a day, you should make a profit, but for one hour a night, you work for us.

And now those network newscasts, anchored through history by honest-to-God newsmen with names like Murrow and Reasoner and Huntley and Brinkley and Buckley and Cronkite and Rather and Russert...now, they have to compete with the likes of me, a cable anchor who's in the exact same business as the producers of "Jersey Shore."

And that business was good to us. But News Night is quitting that business right now. It might come as a surprise to you that some of history's greatest American journalists are working right now. Exceptional minds with years of experience and an unshakable devotion to reporting the news. But these voices are a small minority now and they don't stand a chance against the circus when the circus comes to town. They're over matched. I'm quitting the circus, switching teams. I'm going with the guys who are getting creamed. I'm moved. They still think they can win and I hope they can teach me a thing or two.

From this moment on, we'll be deciding what goes on our air and how it's presented to you based on the simple truth that nothing is more important to a democracy than a well-informed electorate. We'll endeavor to put information in a broader context because we know that very little news is born at the moment it comes across our wire.

We'll be the champion of facts and the mortal enemy of innuendo, speculation, hyperbole and nonsense. We're not waiters in a restaurant, serving you the stories you asked for, just the way you like them prepared. Nor are we computers, dispensing only the facts because news is only useful in the context of humanity. I'll make no effort to subdue my personal opinions. I will make every effort to expose you to informed opinions that are different from my own.

You may ask who are we to make these decisions. We are MacKenzie McHale and myself. Ms. McHale is our executive producer. She marshals the resources of over 100 reporters, producers, analysts and technicians and her credentials are readily available. I'm News Night's managing editor and make the final decision on everything seen and heard on this program.

Who are we to make these decisions? We are the media elite."
 
2013-05-13 12:50:55 PM  
Who under the age of 35 regularly watches a measurable amount of television news? Forget whether it's network or cable news, FOX News or CNN, etc.

I'm on a computer all day and periodically get updates on my phone. Between being practically raised on the internet as a millennial and actively poking through various scrolls of current events well before I even get home, the last thing I feel like watching (especially on weeknights) is "news".

/news is in quotes because...well...you know...
 
2013-05-13 01:01:55 PM  
She has a face for radio.
 
2013-05-13 01:12:37 PM  
The best drama on TV?

WRONG.  WRONGWRONG

Fox News is the best COMEDY on TV.
 
2013-05-13 01:13:32 PM  

Killer Cars: Who under the age of 35 regularly watches a measurable amount of television news? Forget whether it's network or cable news, FOX News or CNN, etc.

I'm on a computer all day and periodically get updates on my phone. Between being practically raised on the internet as a millennial and actively poking through various scrolls of current events well before I even get home, the last thing I feel like watching (especially on weeknights) is "news".

/news is in quotes because...well...you know...


News is in the flux of change, and it's readily apparent that in the next few years televised news will probably cease to exist.  Outside of immediate coverage, it's utterly pointless and biased to a point where it does everything but inform, and that is its real reason to exist.

We can have a variety of overpaid people excusing their behavior, but the answer is that televised news is completely worthless.
 
2013-05-13 01:16:49 PM  
Does this mean NBC will no longer be showing YouTube videos on the Nightly News?
 
2013-05-13 01:17:31 PM  

Killer Cars: Who under the age of 35 regularly watches a measurable amount of television news? Forget whether it's network or cable news, FOX News or CNN, etc.

I'm on a computer all day and periodically get updates on my phone. Between being practically raised on the internet as a millennial and actively poking through various scrolls of current events well before I even get home, the last thing I feel like watching (especially on weeknights) is "news".

/news is in quotes because...well...you know...


I'm 38 and get most of my news from the internet, but I also watch PBS Newshour every night. They wrap up the events of the day in a thorough, organized way, whereas otherwise I might not receive a well-rounded synopsis of what transpired. Sometimes I watch Al Jazeera on weekends because I like that perspective, but too much of any 24hr TV news will rot your brain.
 
2013-05-13 01:20:43 PM  
Maybe on NBC it is.

/try making something that doesn't suck
 
2013-05-13 01:48:33 PM  
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2013-05-13 02:19:28 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Their purpose is to serve advertisers.


Sadly, this.

The question is; How do we fix it?
 
2013-05-13 03:39:37 PM  
Matt Lauer is so glib.
 
2013-05-13 03:44:10 PM  

AddictedToFoobies: Pants full of macaroni!!: Their purpose is to serve advertisers.

Sadly, this.

The question is; How do we fix it?


For decades I've been saying "gee wouldn't it be nice if there were either no advertising during the news or no ratings tracking of the news"... but that aint gonna happen.
 
2013-05-13 04:17:20 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Peter von Nostrand: And people wonder why the US press is awful

"Good evening, I'm Will McAvoy, this is News Night and that was a clip of Richard Clark, former counter terrorism chief to President George W. Bush, testifying before Congress on March 24, 2004. Americans like that moment. I like that moment. Adults should hold themselves accountable for failure. And so tonight, I'm beginning this newscast by joining Mr. Clark and apologizing to the American people for our failure - the failure of this program during the time I've been in charge of it to successfully inform and educate the American electorate.


I like The Newsroom, I really do - but it's in spite of that kind of utter bullshiat.

"successfully inform and educate the American electorate " so, the only news is politics...and you're going to tell your viewers how to think instead of simply reporting facts?  Go fark yourself.

Like the show - hate the liberal wet-dream "news shows should exist to fark the republicans up the ass" fantasy they venture into quite a bit.
 
2013-05-13 06:44:30 PM  
This is why I no longer watch the news. It's an entertainment show, not journalism. Journalism is dead.
 
2013-05-14 02:28:55 AM  
She meant on NBC.  Can you really argue with her there?
 
2013-05-14 07:30:02 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: UNC_Samurai: Peter von Nostrand: And people wonder why the US press is awful

"Good evening, I'm Will McAvoy, this is News Night and that was a clip of Richard Clark, former counter terrorism chief to President George W. Bush, testifying before Congress on March 24, 2004. Americans like that moment. I like that moment. Adults should hold themselves accountable for failure. And so tonight, I'm beginning this newscast by joining Mr. Clark and apologizing to the American people for our failure - the failure of this program during the time I've been in charge of it to successfully inform and educate the American electorate.

I like The Newsroom, I really do - but it's in spite of that kind of utter bullshiat.

"successfully inform and educate the American electorate " so, the only news is politics...and you're going to tell your viewers how to think instead of simply reporting facts?  Go fark yourself.

Like the show - hate the liberal wet-dream "news shows should exist to fark the republicans up the ass" fantasy they venture into quite a bit.


so, in one breath, you complained about the politisizing of the news, and then went ahead and politisized your complaint?

are you trolling? or are you just a twit?
 
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