Dead for Tax Reasons: how about not pulling numbers out of your ass mr. button (and subby taking them as true)race fastest lapsf1: 1:26.217gp2: 1:33.337quali timesf1: 1:20.718gp2: 1:28.706seems like f1 times were just fine
Jensaarai: The massive butthurt over having to manage tire wear again started out funny, but is getting old fast.The best teams will adapt. Lotus has. Ferrari did by changing strategy. Redbull will throw millions of dollars at it and will be back by the end of the season. Midpack teams will continue to be a mixed bag, providing amusing highlights and lowlights. Dysfunctional groups like Mercedes and McLaren will shoot themselves in the foot all season, and wait for all the rules to get shuffled around next year.By this time next season, even if no changes are made to the tires, everyone will be biatching about the new thing that's "ruined" F1.
fatalvenom: One tire manufacturer/one basic car/one engine provider are things that are wrong with modern motorsports.
The Muthaship: Do the tires interfere with the radio transmissions that are used to set the finishing order?
Jensaarai: By this time next season, even if no changes are made to the tires, everyone will be biatching about the new thing that's "ruined" F1.
colinspooky: we don't want processional races either.
Cybernetic: A good craftsman never blames his tools.
WhyteRaven74: colinspooky: we don't want processional races either.When drivers are being told six laps into a stint to watch their tires, something is seriously wrong.Yep, sure is. Shame - but as I said, tough balancing act. We've had some fine races, and now a poor one - let's just hope the tyre tweak does the job. Also, subby didn't say that, Button did. And I don't stick up for subbies often......
WhyteRaven74: Cybernetic: A good craftsman never blames his tools.But a good crafstman has a choice in where to get his tools, F1 teams don't have a choice in where to get tires.
crotchgrabber: For anyone complaining about parade races, seriously, watch some indycar this year. It's been great.
Dead for Tax Reasons: crotchgrabber: For anyone complaining about parade races, seriously, watch some indycar this year. It's been great.maybe if they ran on something other than ovals and shiatty street circuitswatched part of the race at barber, and was good. then back on street circuit, watched a few laps, no thankssonoma and mid-ohio are the only other real tracks they run it seems
Norfolking Chance: Pirelli are doing exactly what the F1 management want them to.All the tyres are up to spec. The exessive wear is down to a combination of poor design specs, poor car design and poor driving.Don't blame Perelli, blame Bernie and co
Guelph35: If they weren't driving to a specific tire wear they'd be driving to a fuel consumption number.
Norfolking Chance: The exessive wear is down to a combination of poor design specs, poor car design and poor driving.
WhyteRaven74: Given they don't having refueling that's not too much of an issue.
Guelph35: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/03/24/2013-malaysian-grand-prix-revi ew /
WhyteRaven74: Also Pirelli has doubled down on the derp becuase of course the only alternative to teams making lots of stops and holding back on their cars lap after lap is processions http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/formula-1-pirelli-can-bring-back-p r ocessions-165556987.html
PowerSlacker: WhyteRaven74: Also Pirelli has doubled down on the derp becuase of course the only alternative to teams making lots of stops and holding back on their cars lap after lap is processions http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/formula-1-pirelli-can-bring-back-p r ocessions-165556987.htmlPirelli is acting to the instructions Bernie gave them.Also, they are right. With tires to support a one or two stop race, who beats Vettel?
PowerSlacker: With tires to support a one or two stop race, who beats Vettel?
WhyteRaven74: . Hell even Renault looks like they have a chance at it
WhyteRaven74: OtherLittleGuy: /ClarksonIs there really any other option?
Raging Whore Moans: I have Pirellis on my 2005 Scion xB
poughdrew: Raging Whore Moans: I have Pirellis on my 2005 Scion xBWatching this season of F1 has taught me a few things:1) Never buy Pirelli tires (or tyres if you will.)2) Never buy a Mercedes.3) Buy a Husqvarna lawn mower, they look pretty cool.4) Get rich and buy a Rolex!
WhyteRaven74: PowerSlacker: With tires to support a one or two stop race, who beats Vettel?There are two possible answers there, one is to say well we'd have to have such a race to find out, Ferrari certainly looks capable, McLaren and Mercedes look like they might be able to do it if they sort their cars out a bit. Hell even Renault looks like they have a chance at it. Keep in mind straight line speed isn't Red Bull's strong suit, by design, so at track where going fast is at a premium, Spain is one such track, the idea that Red Bull or more specifically Vettel could just walk away with it is a bit silly. The other answer, well if the other teams can't keep up with Red Bull, then that's their own problem, why should they look to dubious tires to even things out? It's not like Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes don't have the talent or budgets to get things worked out and F1 allows parts to be changed during the season, like new wing configurations etc.And it's not like Red Bull is anything like Williams or McLaren of the late 80s and early 90s. There's really no chance of them being so far ahead of everyone that they have no real shot at competing. For one the engine supply rules are different. Back in the day Williams and McLaren could rely on being the only teams with their particular engine. Today, Red Bull is one of four teams running the Renault engine and that engine is the same for all teams that use it, no having a "works" engine that is the latest and greatest for one team and a "customer" engine that's one revision behind for others. Given what an issue horsepower is in F1, mandating that engine suppliers have to sell the same engine to everyone does a lot to even things out. It's part of why Lotus is doing so well, they have the Renault engine. Same as Red Bull. The other two teams are Williams and Caterham, which makes Williams' issues all the more disconcerting since they're obviously not wanting for good engines.
UNC_Samurai: We're seeing strategic driving, team orders from everyone - and that's because of the cost of the sport.
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