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2013-05-13 12:07:29 PM

nitefallz: Rwa2play: Walker: People want to see the superheroes of SHIELD, not the agents. I have no desire to watch this show.

Guess who hasn't read the wiki....

Link? Too lazy to look myself but will read


To cut to the chase:  Yes SHIELD's rank-and-file agents are human, but their most important agents are indeed super-powered or have meta-human abilities.

/Remember it from the "Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD" days
 
2013-05-13 12:12:37 PM

Rwa2play: nitefallz: Rwa2play: Walker: People want to see the superheroes of SHIELD, not the agents. I have no desire to watch this show.

Guess who hasn't read the wiki....

Link? Too lazy to look myself but will read

To cut to the chase:  Yes SHIELD's rank-and-file agents are human, but their most important agents are indeed super-powered or have meta-human abilities.

/Remember it from the "Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD" days



www.panelsonpages.com
 
2013-05-13 12:25:31 PM
I fully expect this to be a 'second-tier Super Hero of the week' thing, with them debuting different Marvel heroes to see which ones get to graduate to their own spin-off movie/series.

The SHIELD agents spend each week tracking down various people like Dr. Strange, Luke Cage, Moon Knight, Iron Fist..Give em a bit of time to show off with CGI goodness, and either recruit them, arrest them, or lose them.

The ones that get the biggest audience reaction get return appearances with a shot of a spin-off series or a full-blown movie if the audience appeal is high enough.
 
2013-05-13 12:27:25 PM

Mentat: feickus: EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.

Should be "Nobody stays dead except Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben"

Except the Wayne's came back during Flashpoint



It was just Thomas, Bruce and Martha were dead in his place.  Also it was an alternate timeline..
 
2013-05-13 12:45:39 PM

EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.


But in conservation of hero origin mortality, Aunt May will have to die.
 
2013-05-13 12:49:01 PM

feickus: EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.

Should be "Nobody stays dead excet Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben"


The best way to guarantee that a character stays good and dead is to be an integral part of the origin story. There was a spider-man comic a few years back where it showed that Ben comes back every year to watch a Mets game with Peter.
 
2013-05-13 12:51:48 PM

ShadowKamui: Uncle Pooky: Agent Coulson surviving/getting resurrected/however-they're-bringing-him-back is stupid.

Don't give me that "it happens all the time in comic books" shiat. Don't give me that "we didn't SEE him die" shiat.

Clone or android body


farm3.static.flickr.com

He needs to be vision, and he gets to bang the Scarlet Witch.
 
2013-05-13 12:52:25 PM

Fano: Aunt May will have to die.


Best idea ever.
 
2013-05-13 01:02:16 PM

BalugaJoe: Beta Ray Bill should get his own movie or TV show.


Throg deserves at least a cameo.

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-05-13 01:02:55 PM

Arthen: Peak comic book adaptation is here.


I hope you are wrong, I really, REALLy hope you are wrong.
 
2013-05-13 01:05:32 PM
Come to think of it, Cypher would have made a good SHIELD agent...
 
2013-05-13 01:14:31 PM

Parthenogenetic: BalugaJoe: Beta Ray Bill should get his own movie or TV show.

Throg deserves at least a cameo.


The Throg episode of Avengers: EMH was too awesome.

/I SAY THEE, *ribbit*
 
2013-05-13 01:21:36 PM

PizzaJedi81: Fano: Aunt May will have to die.

Best idea ever.


Last time they tried killing Aunt May, didn't it turn out the dead one was an actress impersonating her, that also somehow had all the memories of the real Aunt May, and no one knew until after she died?
 
2013-05-13 01:28:17 PM

feickus: It was just Thomas, Bruce and Martha were dead in his place.  Also it was an alternate timeline..


No, Martha was alive too. She was the Joker.
 
2013-05-13 02:02:13 PM

demonfaerie: ShadowKamui: Uncle Pooky: Agent Coulson surviving/getting resurrected/however-they're-bringing-him-back is stupid.

Don't give me that "it happens all the time in comic books" shiat. Don't give me that "we didn't SEE him die" shiat.

Clone or android body

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x469]

He needs to be vision, and he gets to bang the Scarlet Witch.


I just heard the Scarlet Witch is going be in the Avengers along with her brother
 
2013-05-13 02:15:06 PM
One word:  Alphas

Show was done really well, where a human worked with meta-humans to take out people who misused their powers.

If they come anywhere close to Alphas it could be really well done.
 
2013-05-13 02:31:59 PM

SillBinger: One word:  Alphas

Show was done really well, where a human worked with meta-humans to take out people who misused their powers.

If they come anywhere close to Alphas it could be really well done.


So we're looking at a reboot of Alphas Misfits Painkiller Jane Heroes The 4400 Misfits of Science, etc.

Yeah, I expect this show to go far, just like all the other shows it's cloning did. Don't get me wrong, I'd enjoy the show, and I'd like for it to succeed, but superhero shows that aren't animated or aren't flukes like Buffy don't seem to do very well.

/Alphas was almost exactly Painkiller Jane (the show) 2.0,
 
2013-05-13 03:25:42 PM

fatz3456: Uncle Pooky: Agent Coulson surviving/getting resurrected/however-they're-bringing-him-back is stupid.

Don't give me that "it happens all the time in comic books" shiat. Don't give me that "we didn't SEE him die" shiat.

Why get so uptight? It happens all the time in comic books. Besides, it's not like we saw him die.


IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION THAT COLSON WASN'T DEAD. THE RETRIEVAL OF THE BLOODY PLAYING CARDS FROM HIS LOCKER, AND THE COMMENT "THEY NEEDED AN INCENTIVE" AND I'M A TOOL FOR USING ALL CAPS.
 
2013-05-13 03:37:00 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION THAT COLSON WASN'T DEAD. THE RETRIEVAL OF THE BLOODY PLAYING CARDS FROM HIS LOCKER, AND THE COMMENT "THEY NEEDED AN INCENTIVE" AND I'M A TOOL FOR USING ALL CAPS.


I picture Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons saying this.
 
2013-05-13 03:42:12 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: fatz3456: Uncle Pooky: Agent Coulson surviving/getting resurrected/however-they're-bringing-him-back is stupid.

Don't give me that "it happens all the time in comic books" shiat. Don't give me that "we didn't SEE him die" shiat.

Why get so uptight? It happens all the time in comic books. Besides, it's not like we saw him die.

IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION THAT COLSON WASN'T DEAD. THE RETRIEVAL OF THE BLOODY PLAYING CARDS FROM HIS LOCKER, AND THE COMMENT "THEY NEEDED AN INCENTIVE" AND I'M A TOOL FOR USING ALL CAPS.



Hmm, interesting concept you propose.   I took the part about them needing an incentive being directly tied to the bloody cards, as if the bloody cards would be enough to get them to unite.  But if Fury was referring to the entire death of Coulson then, sure, maybe he isn't dead.   But it doesn't jive with Loki stabbing him unless life model decoys DO exist in the Marvel film universe like Stark says early on when Coulson is trying to reach him.  I've seen the decoys are almost identical to the real thing.

However all that seems extremely far-fetched, even for these movies/shows.   Which is probably why it's what will happen.
 
2013-05-13 04:33:44 PM

nitefallz: I took the part about them needing an incentive being directly tied to the bloody cards, as if the bloody cards would be enough to get them to unite. But if Fury was referring to the entire death of Coulson then, sure, maybe he isn't dead. But it doesn't jive with Loki stabbing him unless life model decoys DO exist in the Marvel film universe like Stark says early on when Coulson is trying to reach him. I've seen the decoys are almost identical to the real thing.

However all that seems extremely far-fetched, even for these movies/shows. Which is probably why it's what will happen.


So basically it boils down to three possibilities:

1) That wasn't really Coulson we saw Loki stab, e.g. it was an LMD

2) That was really Coulson we saw Loki stab, and somehow SHIELD saved him, e.g. Android body, elaborate previously unmentioned medical procedure with unforeseen side effects

3) That was really Coulson, he did die, and the guy in the trailer isn't really Coulson, e.g. it's now an LMD, or Coulson has an identical twin not previously mentioned

Personally I'd be happiest if they just decide that he wasn't fatally wounded after all and he got better. Anything else risks being a real anchor on the show.
 
2013-05-13 04:40:14 PM

Fano: feickus: EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.

Should be "Nobody stays dead excet Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben"

The best way to guarantee that a character stays good and dead is to be an integral part of the origin story. There was a spider-man comic a few years back where it showed that Ben comes back every year to watch a Mets game with Peter.


images3.wikia.nocookie.net
Ahem.
/All dead, all the time.
 
2013-05-13 04:44:54 PM

texdent: feickus: It was just Thomas, Bruce and Martha were dead in his place.  Also it was an alternate timeline..

No, Martha was alive too. She was the Joker.


SPOILER ALERT! I WANT TO SHOUT ALL THE LOUD FUNNY WORDS TOO!
 
2013-05-13 04:58:09 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Fano: feickus: EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.

Should be "Nobody stays dead excet Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben"

The best way to guarantee that a character stays good and dead is to be an integral part of the origin story. There was a spider-man comic a few years back where it showed that Ben comes back every year to watch a Mets game with Peter.

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 350x208]
Ahem.
/All dead, all the time.


Except for that time during Brightest Day when he was alive.
 
2013-05-13 05:33:59 PM

nitefallz: Mart Laar's beard shaver: fatz3456: Uncle Pooky: Agent Coulson surviving/getting resurrected/however-they're-bringing-him-back is stupid.

Don't give me that "it happens all the time in comic books" shiat. Don't give me that "we didn't SEE him die" shiat.

Why get so uptight? It happens all the time in comic books. Besides, it's not like we saw him die.

IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION THAT COLSON WASN'T DEAD. THE RETRIEVAL OF THE BLOODY PLAYING CARDS FROM HIS LOCKER, AND THE COMMENT "THEY NEEDED AN INCENTIVE" AND I'M A TOOL FOR USING ALL CAPS.


Hmm, interesting concept you propose.   I took the part about them needing an incentive being directly tied to the bloody cards, as if the bloody cards would be enough to get them to unite.  But if Fury was referring to the entire death of Coulson then, sure, maybe he isn't dead.   But it doesn't jive with Loki stabbing him unless life model decoys DO exist in the Marvel film universe like Stark says early on when Coulson is trying to reach him.  I've seen the decoys are almost identical to the real thing.

However all that seems extremely far-fetched, even for these movies/shows.   Which is probably why it's what will happen.


Why in the hell would Tony say 'life model decoy' if such things don't exist for him to know about?
 
2013-05-13 05:41:56 PM
This could be a great show if they pull it off right.

As the government agency that deals with superpowered people, there aren't many limits to where SHIELD can go or who they can fight.  For example they could deal with a lot of minor supervillians or superheroes that aren't big enough for the actual movies (or the movies just don't have time for).  Big name superheroes could then drop in from time to time as the budget allows.  Otherwise it would be a great opportunity to really flesh out the Marvel Cinematic Universe in ways that aren't practical in just movies.

As for Agent Coulson coming back alive.  It's a comic book show, there are about a thousand possible ways he could of come back, ranging from the mundane (ie "I was never actually dead in the first place, Director Fury just wanted the Avengers to think I was") to the insane (ie "A magical artifact from beyond the universe brought me back to life, you'd be surprised how many of those we got lying around").  My only stance on the matter is that the question needs to be answered right up front in the first episode.
 
2013-05-13 05:45:23 PM

PizzaJedi81: SQUEE!



WhippingBoy: The cast looks terrible (with the exception of Coulson). This unfortunately won't last.


You can tell all that from a 30 second trailer? And it's not on Fox, so there's hope.
 
2013-05-13 05:50:48 PM
toy-lines.com
 
2013-05-13 06:00:13 PM
He didn't know what the gun he shot Loki with did, so it was obviously a life stealing weapon and it put Coulson in a coma and healed him when he used it.  That's my deus ex guesstimate, and I'm right of course.
 
2013-05-13 06:21:43 PM
They should start the show with some one asking Phil

"didn't you die on the helicarrier?"

"No"

Then just carry on and never mention it again. It would be epic trolling.
 
2013-05-13 06:29:22 PM

Norfolking Chance: They should start the show with some one asking Phil

"didn't you die on the helicarrier?"

"No"

Then just carry on and never mention it again. It would be epic trolling.


I like this option. "The details are classified."
 
2013-05-13 07:29:37 PM
Where's the Hoff as Nick Fury?
 
2013-05-13 07:41:13 PM
Lots of comic characters stay dead. It just depends what universe you're talking about. What-if's and one-offs don't count.

616 Marvel (just a few of the many who have stayed dead)
Uncle Ben,  Captain Mar-Vell,Sentry,Ares,Abomination,Ant-Man (O'Grady),Baron Mordo,Banshee,Box,Brother Voodoo,Changeling,Destiny,Executioner,Foolkiller,Captain Stacy,Yinsen,Gwen Stacy,Iron Monger (Obadiah Stane),Jean DeWolff,Jean Grey (although her younger self is currently in the present),Mastermind, Miss America, Ned Leeds, Ben Reilly, Sin Eater, Spencer Smythe, Esme Cuckoo, Stonewall, Thunderstrike (Eric Masterson), Union Jack, Whizzer (Robert Frank)

Ultimate Marvel (Some big names here! Not a complete list.)
Abomination, Angel, Beast, Wolverine, Wasp, Uncle Ben, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), Bishop, Black Widow (Natasha), Blob, Cyclops, Dazzler, Doctor Doom, Daredevil, Doc Ock, Doctor Strange, Green Goblin, Gambit, Hank Pym, Harry Osborn, Juggernaut, Justin Hammer, Kingpin, Longshot, Nightcrawler

DC
Lots, but they'll retcon it again after New52 fails, so it's not worth listing them.
 
2013-05-13 07:45:15 PM

ZeroCorpse: Lots of comic characters stay dead. It just depends what universe you're talking about. What-if's and one-offs don't count.

Ultimate Marvel (Some big names here! Not a complete list.)
Abomination, Angel, Beast, Wolverine, Wasp, Uncle Ben, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), Bishop, Black Widow (Natasha), Blob, Cyclops, Dazzler, Doctor Doom, Daredevil, Doc Ock, Doctor Strange, Green Goblin, Gambit, Hank Pym, Harry Osborn, Juggernaut, Justin Hammer, Kingpin, Longshot, Nightcrawler,  Magneto, Professor X



Forgot two big ones. Jeez.
 
2013-05-13 07:45:22 PM

ZeroCorpse: Lots of comic characters stay dead. It just depends what universe you're talking about. What-if's and one-offs don't count.

616 Marvel (just a few of the many who have stayed dead)
Uncle Ben,  Captain Mar-Vell,Sentry,Ares,Abomination,Ant-Man (O'Grady),Baron Mordo,Banshee,Box,Brother Voodoo,Changeling,Destiny,Executioner,Foolkiller,Captain Stacy,Yinsen,Gwen Stacy,Iron Monger (Obadiah Stane),Jean DeWolff,Jean Grey (although her younger self is currently in the present),Mastermind, Miss America, Ned Leeds, Ben Reilly, Sin Eater, Spencer Smythe, Esme Cuckoo, Stonewall, Thunderstrike (Eric Masterson), Union Jack, Whizzer (Robert Frank)

Ultimate Marvel (Some big names here! Not a complete list.)
Abomination, Angel, Beast, Wolverine, Wasp, Uncle Ben, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), Bishop, Black Widow (Natasha), Blob, Cyclops, Dazzler, Doctor Doom, Daredevil, Doc Ock, Doctor Strange, Green Goblin, Gambit, Hank Pym, Harry Osborn, Juggernaut, Justin Hammer, Kingpin, Longshot, Nightcrawler

DC
Lots, but they'll retcon it again after New52 fails, so it's not worth listing them.


Killing ultimate Peter Parker was the worst idea ever. It's been all downhill in that universe since. If they HAD to kill him they should have had girl-peter take over his role and meet the family instead of the current stupid title.
 
2013-05-13 07:59:28 PM

ZeroCorpse: DC
Lots, but they'll retcon it again after New52 fails, so it's not worth listing them.


Bears repeating. Like that last scene on Game of Thrones seen over and over again.
 
2013-05-13 08:17:52 PM

Walker: People want to see the superheroes of SHIELD, not the agents. I have no desire to watch this show.


Your loss                http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hGrIAf1LUSg
 
2013-05-13 08:24:37 PM

gopher321: So..."Heroes" reboot then?


Pretty much looks that way.
 
2013-05-13 08:46:51 PM

feickus: Mentat: feickus: EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.

Should be "Nobody stays dead except Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben"

Except the Wayne's came back during Flashpoint


It was just Thomas, Bruce and Martha were dead in his place.  Also it was an alternate timeline..


No, Martha was the Joker in the Flashpoint timeline.
 
2013-05-13 09:35:11 PM
So anyone else think that Marvel should just put together a studio and release 2 anthology flicks a year? Commision a bunch of bad ass shorts and cobble them together like, oh, issues of a comic? Maybe one 45 minute showcase with 4 20 minute minisodes which parks you right at 125 minutes. Shameless use of cliffhangers encouraged.
 
2013-05-13 11:21:51 PM

drewogatory: So anyone else think that Marvel should just put together a studio and release 2 anthology flicks a year? Commision a bunch of bad ass shorts and cobble them together like, oh, issues of a comic? Maybe one 45 minute showcase with 4 20 minute minisodes which parks you right at 125 minutes. Shameless use of cliffhangers encouraged.


Done intertwined Vignettes,  ala  Sin City or Pulp Fiction, and depending on budgets for FX     Hell yeah!
 
2013-05-13 11:26:02 PM

drewogatory: So anyone else think that Marvel should just put together a studio and release 2 anthology flicks a year? Commision a bunch of bad ass shorts and cobble them together like, oh, issues of a comic? Maybe one 45 minute showcase with 4 20 minute minisodes which parks you right at 125 minutes. Shameless use of cliffhangers encouraged.


That would never bring in a billion dollars, so they won't do it. It'd make comic movies even more inaccessible to general audiences. Honestly, it's amazing that Marvel is doing what it's doing with movies and now the tv show and it's working. The rest of phase 2 with the more obscure characters is going to really be a test though.
 
2013-05-13 11:42:37 PM

walkenreeves: ZeroCorpse: Lots of comic characters stay dead. It just depends what universe you're talking about. What-if's and one-offs don't count.

616 Marvel (just a few of the many who have stayed dead)
Uncle Ben,  Captain Mar-Vell,Sentry,Ares,Abomination,Ant-Man (O'Grady),Baron Mordo,Banshee,Box,Brother Voodoo,Changeling,Destiny,Executioner,Foolkiller,Captain Stacy,Yinsen,Gwen Stacy,Iron Monger (Obadiah Stane),Jean DeWolff,Jean Grey (although her younger self is currently in the present),Mastermind, Miss America, Ned Leeds, Ben Reilly, Sin Eater, Spencer Smythe, Esme Cuckoo, Stonewall, Thunderstrike (Eric Masterson), Union Jack, Whizzer (Robert Frank)

Ultimate Marvel (Some big names here! Not a complete list.)
Abomination, Angel, Beast, Wolverine, Wasp, Uncle Ben, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), Bishop, Black Widow (Natasha), Blob, Cyclops, Dazzler, Doctor Doom, Daredevil, Doc Ock, Doctor Strange, Green Goblin, Gambit, Hank Pym, Harry Osborn, Juggernaut, Justin Hammer, Kingpin, Longshot, Nightcrawler

DC
Lots, but they'll retcon it again after New52 fails, so it's not worth listing them.

Killing ultimate Peter Parker was the worst idea ever. It's been all downhill in that universe since. If they HAD to kill him they should have had girl-peter take over his role and meet the family instead of the current stupid title.


I think the new Ultimate Spider-man is great.  So neener-neener.
 
2013-05-14 12:02:24 AM

walkenreeves: drewogatory: So anyone else think that Marvel should just put together a studio and release 2 anthology flicks a year? Commision a bunch of bad ass shorts and cobble them together like, oh, issues of a comic? Maybe one 45 minute showcase with 4 20 minute minisodes which parks you right at 125 minutes. Shameless use of cliffhangers encouraged.

That would never bring in a billion dollars, so they won't do it. It'd make comic movies even more inaccessible to general audiences. Honestly, it's amazing that Marvel is doing what it's doing with movies and now the tv show and it's working. The rest of phase 2 with the more obscure characters is going to really be a test though.


A thought strikes me; if Disney succeeds in their scheme to make a Star Wars movie a year for the next however many years, and these movies turn a profit, we may enter an age in which this very thing happens.

A return to serials in the theatre? Now I've seen everything!
 
2013-05-14 12:02:39 AM

AdrienVeidt: nitefallz: Mart Laar's beard shaver: fatz3456: Uncle Pooky: Agent Coulson surviving/getting resurrected/however-they're-bringing-him-back is stupid.

Don't give me that "it happens all the time in comic books" shiat. Don't give me that "we didn't SEE him die" shiat.

Why get so uptight? It happens all the time in comic books. Besides, it's not like we saw him die.

IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION THAT COLSON WASN'T DEAD. THE RETRIEVAL OF THE BLOODY PLAYING CARDS FROM HIS LOCKER, AND THE COMMENT "THEY NEEDED AN INCENTIVE" AND I'M A TOOL FOR USING ALL CAPS.


Hmm, interesting concept you propose.   I took the part about them needing an incentive being directly tied to the bloody cards, as if the bloody cards would be enough to get them to unite.  But if Fury was referring to the entire death of Coulson then, sure, maybe he isn't dead.   But it doesn't jive with Loki stabbing him unless life model decoys DO exist in the Marvel film universe like Stark says early on when Coulson is trying to reach him.  I've seen the decoys are almost identical to the real thing.

However all that seems extremely far-fetched, even for these movies/shows.   Which is probably why it's what will happen.

Why in the hell would Tony say 'life model decoy' if such things don't exist for him to know about?


Classic over the top Stark sarcasm.
 
2013-05-14 12:06:42 AM

mooseyfate: walkenreeves: ZeroCorpse: Lots of comic characters stay dead. It just depends what universe you're talking about. What-if's and one-offs don't count.

616 Marvel (just a few of the many who have stayed dead)
Uncle Ben,  Captain Mar-Vell,Sentry,Ares,Abomination,Ant-Man (O'Grady),Baron Mordo,Banshee,Box,Brother Voodoo,Changeling,Destiny,Executioner,Foolkiller,Captain Stacy,Yinsen,Gwen Stacy,Iron Monger (Obadiah Stane),Jean DeWolff,Jean Grey (although her younger self is currently in the present),Mastermind, Miss America, Ned Leeds, Ben Reilly, Sin Eater, Spencer Smythe, Esme Cuckoo, Stonewall, Thunderstrike (Eric Masterson), Union Jack, Whizzer (Robert Frank)

Ultimate Marvel (Some big names here! Not a complete list.)
Abomination, Angel, Beast, Wolverine, Wasp, Uncle Ben, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), Bishop, Black Widow (Natasha), Blob, Cyclops, Dazzler, Doctor Doom, Daredevil, Doc Ock, Doctor Strange, Green Goblin, Gambit, Hank Pym, Harry Osborn, Juggernaut, Justin Hammer, Kingpin, Longshot, Nightcrawler

DC
Lots, but they'll retcon it again after New52 fails, so it's not worth listing them.

Killing ultimate Peter Parker was the worst idea ever. It's been all downhill in that universe since. If they HAD to kill him they should have had girl-peter take over his role and meet the family instead of the current stupid title.

I think the new Ultimate Spider-man is great.  So neener-neener.


Yeah. I rather like Miles. He's a cool character. His appearances in Ultimates were pretty nifty, because they teamed him up with Jessica (Peter's female clone), and she was kinda miffed at first that someone would take Pete's place. She warmed up to him, though. Everyone does.

Still, I would have liked it if they'd given Spider-Woman a series. All the fun of Peter Parker, but now with boobs! WHEEE!!!
 
2013-05-14 12:19:15 AM

Mentat: feickus: Mentat: feickus: EponymousCowHerd: czetie: LonMead: [therealmcast.com image 500x375]

Nobody stays dead. Except Uncle Ben.

Used to be: "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd".   So we should probably expect Uncle Ben back sometime too.

Should be "Nobody stays dead except Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben"

Except the Wayne's came back during Flashpoint


It was just Thomas, Bruce and Martha were dead in his place.  Also it was an alternate timeline..

No, Martha was the Joker in the Flashpoint timeline.


I'm going to throw a flag on the play, re: Thomas and Martha Wayne were alive.

They were alive during a corrupted timeline that was reversed by the actions of Flashpoint. That isn't alive enough to truly count. There are several one-shots or short arcs where a character is alive, only to be eradicated again, within the same issue or arc. I can't truly count those.  Those are essentially "Monkey's Paw" moments.

Examples for Uncle Ben: Ben briefly appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #500; after Spider-Man played a vital role in preventing the resurrection of

Also, he's alive in House of M.

Turns out I was wrong in asserting he came back as a ghost to watch baseball with Peter. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/08/a-year-of-cool-co m ic-book-moments-day-128/ I got confused because he faded out like a ghost on Peter's memory of the last game he saw with Ben.
 
2013-05-14 12:30:42 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Yeah, yeah, yeah- now where's my freakin' Deadpool movie?

/it should feature a callous disregard for the fourth wall


Last I heard, it's coming and it does. (R rating, too.)
 
2013-05-14 01:03:30 AM

Bandito King: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Yeah, yeah, yeah- now where's my freakin' Deadpool movie?

/it should feature a callous disregard for the fourth wall

Last I heard, it's coming and it does. (R rating, too.)


Deadpool hack n slash video game comes out soon too, and supposedly does him well and plays well. I saw a preview for it on comicvine.com the other day.
 
2013-05-14 09:24:20 AM

walkenreeves: Bandito King: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Yeah, yeah, yeah- now where's my freakin' Deadpool movie?

/it should feature a callous disregard for the fourth wall

Last I heard, it's coming and it does. (R rating, too.)

Deadpool hack n slash video game comes out soon too, and supposedly does him well and plays well. I saw a preview for it on comicvine.com the other day.


This is the trailer that won me over. It seems just like Deadpool.
 
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