TommyymmoT: If I were the judge, not only would I kick the case out of court, I would award punitive damages against the casino.If the game is legit enough when the player was behind, then it is legit enough when he's ahead.They didn't seem to mind much when he was over $700k in the hole.
BStorm: Uzzah:Slot machines are deterministic -- that is, there is nothing random taking place within them. Every win or loss is pre-scripted before a player ever sits down at them.No they're not, unless they're rigged and therefore illegal. The casinos can set a general percentage for the overall win/loss ratio, but there's still a random element involved in each play, or at least that's the idea.Besides, trying to script each play in advance would be a tremendous waste of time and energy when the laws of probability are perfectly capable of making the casino plenty of money without any additional effort. I won't even get started on the potential for massive lawsuits if someone were to discover that the supposedly random results were actually scripted beforehand.
ha-ha-guy: Actually the rogue cards idea sounds kind of interesting. I'm thinking if you own some factory in China that spits them out, you could covertly mark them or find some crazy way to do it (like marking on the card that was only visible if you were wearing a contact lens with a filter on it). Track your customers and every so often drop in and win a few hundred thousand. As long as you didn't get greedy and never cleaned a place out, you could clean up fairly well and they'd never notice. Maybe just mark 1 in 20 decks and wander around the casino floor until you saw one of your marked decks in play, sit down, win a bit, move on.
Igor Jakovsky: Rwa2play: iron_city_ap: This. Casinos go from 0 to epic butthurt in record time. fark them. They openly exploit an advantage but cry foul when a player does the exact same thing. If he was playing within the rules of the game, its fair.This is why the only time I'll step in a casino is to go head-to-head against another human being that's NOT the house. They should just take it on the chin and move on. The alternative (read: they win; but then Ivey issues a persona non grata on the casino to his friends/fellow players, which will soon shut down) is pretty hideous to contemplate.You'd think bad publicity from a top world player wouldn't be worth the loss. I can't think of a worse reputation for a casino to have than being one that doesn't pay out.
Baron Harkonnen: I'm from Wisconsin, and I remember hearing about several cases where huge jackpots on slots were recalled because the machine was 'defective', and that stood up in court. Indian tribal laws had something to do with the ruling, but still: casinos are ruthless. They will cheat, lie and steal so that gamblers don't walk away with 'the casino's' money./didn't go to casinos when I lived in the US.
Rustico: AverageAmericanGuy: So what happens to casino cards after the day is over?Some are drilled (so they can't be substituted back into a live floor-game) or otherwise marred and sold In the gift shop.Some are destroyed.
AverageAmericanGuy: So what happens to casino cards after the day is over?
Relatively Obscure: "We played foolishly, so you don't win" should be illegal.
calbert: "In addition, the cards should be disposed of after each day's play, but Ivey apparently managed to convince the casino to keep the cards in play".yeah, this casino deserves the hit they took.
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