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2013-05-13 07:35:22 AM
4 votes:

Oldiron_79: Mao and Stalin have killed more people in the name of Atheism


Stalin wasn't an atheist. Neither was Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, or any other 20th century dictator. Noe once did any of them rant in any of their speeches that their enemies must be eliminated for the sake of secular humanism and rational inquiry. Rather, what they did was establish systems of moral absolutes with state theocracies, oppressive social obedience and strict political doctrine replacing scripture. Essentially: Political ideology as church, with themselves as God.

The whole "who committed more atrocities" argument is a mutually assured destruction debate tactic anyway. Do you really want to count them all up? Christians wiped out two entire continents and an entire race of people. And not only did they commit genocide to others, they committed genocide to themselves (the greatest enemy to Christians has always been other Christians: Quite possibly up to 50 million in just the wars of the Reformation....20 million in the 30 years war alone). But do these numbers make any argument better? Do you feel better about your side if you can tally it up and show that your beliefs only killed a few million less than their beliefs? Does that make it more right?

Today's Christians should not have to answer for every past atrocity done in the name of Christianity, just as today's atheists should not have to answer for every past atrocity done in the name of atheism (which is technically none...but even if you throw in Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot or anyone else who wasn't Christian or an atheist, that still doesn't justify either argument).
2013-05-13 09:44:59 AM
2 votes:
I am an Atheist and I am impressed by what the man did.
I am not impressed by the ignorance and bigotry of some of contributors to this thread.
2013-05-13 08:37:53 AM
2 votes:

Great Janitor: A friend of my explained to me when I was in my teens (older family friend, not another teenager) that prior to the Council of Nicea the Christian Church actually believed in reincarnation.


Let me stop you right here. Christianity is a diverse faith. It's always been a diverse faith. Prior to the Council of Nicea, some Christians believed in reincarnation. Many still do today. Some people had alternative gospels, including works such as those found in the Nag Hammdi Library that had alternative views of the characters in the Gospel myths. But they weren't universally recognized and confined to outlying sects.

To say that Christianity was uniform before the Council and that the Council changed that is wrong. It codified one set of beliefs into Orthodoxy, but different sects have always had and will always have different beliefs.
2013-05-13 07:13:49 AM
2 votes:
Oh and BTW--when your wife stop using a book to justify her actions that have led to the death of thousands so she can feel better about her life and pretend that she will see her loved ones once she is dead herself, perhaps there is an adult conversation to be had.
2013-05-13 07:08:30 AM
2 votes:

INeedAName: And as for the 'omg you're a Christian so you MUST ascribe to everything written in the bible' argument, it's trite and overplayed. If you want to have a genuine, adult discussion, let me know.


Can your wife tell me what parts of your book NOT to believe in?  It's a large book and I only have so much time to read it over again.
2013-05-13 05:58:07 AM
2 votes:

Pointy Tail of Satan: You mean the distorted, inaccurate Bible in English, written for those too lazy to learn to read in Hebrew, Latin and Greek?


I think they mean the Bible post Council of Nicea where they decided what was going to be in the Bible as we know it today, and what was going be considered non-canon.  A friend of my explained to me when I was in my teens (older family friend, not another teenager) that prior to the Council of Nicea the Christian Church actually believed in reincarnation.  The Council of Nicea ditched it because if your followers thought that they had another life, then they could screw around in this life and use the next one for a chance to get into Heaven.  Tell them that you have only one life and now they are determined to get into Heaven on their one and only chance.  He was also one of the first people to explain to me the possibility that Mary Magdaline wasn't a whore but a rather important woman in the church around the time of Christ.  The Council of Nicea purposely reduced her to a whore to keep women subservient.  Something that would be a bit difficult if the Bible explained that Christ had a woman who was as equal as the men in his company.  The Council also pretty much deleted everything from the holy texts that they didn't like or agreed with or could pretty much threaten their political standing.
2013-05-14 12:17:28 AM
1 votes:
What an idiot! That is all I can think...
2013-05-13 05:15:10 PM
1 votes:

Kurmudgeon: To be a theocracy, there has to be a deity that is worshipped.


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"People can learn to love _______. Through songs and slogans, through endless advertisements and posters and banners, through rallies and parades and processions, through hymns and chants and recitations, through games and community hikes and camps, through lectures and workshops and seminars and film shows, from squads of volunteers and spontaneous demonstrations, through enforcement of doctrine in elementary schools, circulated testimonials, photographs. The people really have no choice but to love _______.

"_______ is infallible and all-powerful. Every success, every achievement, every victory, every scientific discovery, all knowledge, all wisdom, all happiness, all virtue, are held to issue directly from his leadership and inspiration. His function is to act as a focusing point for love, fear, and reverence, emotions which are more easily felt toward an individual than toward an organization.

"Anyone can be brought to the bidding of their leaders through devotion and worship of a charismatic yet enigmatic figure who cannot die and no one has ever seen. His penetrating visage is everywhere, full of power and mysterious calm, the leader and guardian of everything that is right with the world. We should all voice our gratitude to _______ for the new, happy life which his wise leadership has bestowed upon us.

"_______ loves you. So you must love _______."

/now, am I talking about Jesus Christ or Joseph Stalin?
//Neither. This paraphrase is from Orwell's 1984, but you are free to fill in the blanks with whatever deity you love most
2013-05-13 10:14:16 AM
1 votes:

Ishkur: Stalin wasn't an atheist. Neither was Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, or any other 20th century dictator.


That's a new use of the No True Scotsman argument.
2013-05-13 09:41:38 AM
1 votes:

Inflatable Rhetoric: Oldiron_79: untaken_name: Slappy McLongstockings: stop using a book to justify her actions that have led to the death of thousands

Wait, what book? This one?

THIS, Mao and Stalin have killed more people in the name of Atheism than the Holocaust, the crusades, the conquest of the Americas, the Spanish Inquisition, and the witch hunts combined.

Actually, there's no reason to think Stalin and Mao had any interest in gods or religion or atheism.


Aside from, ya know, the dead religious people.
2013-05-13 09:09:32 AM
1 votes:

INeedAName: Great Janitor: Pointy Tail of Satan: You mean the distorted, inaccurate Bible in English, written for those too lazy to learn to read in Hebrew, Latin and Greek?

I think they mean the Bible post Council of Nicea where they decided what was going to be in the Bible as we know it today, and what was going be considered non-canon.  A friend of my explained to me when I was in my teens (older family friend, not another teenager) that prior to the Council of Nicea the Christian Church actually believed in reincarnation.  The Council of Nicea ditched it because if your followers thought that they had another life, then they could screw around in this life and use the next one for a chance to get into Heaven.  Tell them that you have only one life and now they are determined to get into Heaven on their one and only chance.  He was also one of the first people to explain to me the possibility that Mary Magdaline wasn't a whore but a rather important woman in the church around the time of Christ.  The Council of Nicea purposely reduced her to a whore to keep women subservient.  Something that would be a bit difficult if the Bible explained that Christ had a woman who was as equal as the men in his company.   The Council also pretty much deleted everything from the holy texts that they didn't like or agreed with or could pretty much threaten their political standing.


I didn't know Dan Brown was on Fark

While it's wonderful to have people in your life to educate you on things, did you bother to ever look any of this up? My wife just finished her first year of seminary and the amount of times during the week I find out that something someone once told me about the Bible turns out to blatantly false, is pretty interes
2013-05-13 08:54:59 AM
1 votes:
Im W8ing 4 d txt version
2013-05-13 08:44:06 AM
1 votes:
In the beginning, there was fail.
2013-05-13 08:23:52 AM
1 votes:

Slappy McLongstockings: PS....feel free to get your wife a Fark account


Oh look.  An account created May 2013.  Someone's scared to troll with his own account.
2013-05-13 07:33:33 AM
1 votes:
Are we just not going to talk about how infuriating it is that this article doesn't have a damn picture of the book?
2013-05-13 07:31:29 AM
1 votes:

Slappy McLongstockings: INeedAName: And as for the 'omg you're a Christian so you MUST ascribe to everything written in the bible' argument, it's trite and overplayed. If you want to have a genuine, adult discussion, let me know.

Can your wife tell me what parts of your book NOT to believe in?  It's a large book and I only have so much time to read it over again.


According to that same bible, his wife shouldn't be teaching anyone anything about it.
2013-05-13 07:18:11 AM
1 votes:

Slappy McLongstockings: stop using a book to justify her actions that have led to the death of thousands


Wait, what book? This one?

cdn.uberreview.com
2013-05-13 06:57:15 AM
1 votes:
godswillchurch.com
2013-05-13 06:19:16 AM
1 votes:
ULTIMATE TROLL: If he had timed it to be finished on the Mayan Apocolypse.
2013-05-13 05:54:45 AM
1 votes:
He should have made it a choose-your-own-adventure book:

-> If you'd like Samson to smite the Philistines by tying 100 foxes together and setting them on fire, turn to page 117.

-> If you'd like Samson to go biblical on a pagan temple using the jawbone of an ass, turn to page 843.
2013-05-13 05:47:57 AM
1 votes:

Pointy Tail of Satan: You mean the distorted, inaccurate Bible in English, written for those too lazy to learn to read in Hebrew, Latin and Greek?


Latin? LOL.
2013-05-13 05:47:18 AM
1 votes:
If he wanted to be a real Fark hero, he'd have handwritten a copy of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
2013-05-13 05:47:13 AM
1 votes:
And if he were to be paying attention while writing it, he, more than once, would have looked up and said "Now I know I wrote something that completely contradicts that..."
2013-05-13 05:39:40 AM
1 votes:
You mean the distorted, inaccurate Bible in English, written for those too lazy to learn to read in Hebrew, Latin and Greek?
2013-05-13 05:38:29 AM
1 votes:
Id' be impressed if he did it in braille.
2013-05-13 05:34:30 AM
1 votes:
Illuminating.
2013-05-13 12:56:06 AM
1 votes:
Gutenberg:  The world's first intellectual material pirate.
 
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