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2013-05-12 06:02:44 PM  

Stone Meadow: hardinparamedic: The Population of the United States is 312.8 million people. According to the Centers for Disease Control, 0.2 in 100,000 deaths were caused by firearms accidents. That's 719 people, roughly.

By contrast, 26,000 people were killed by falls in 2010.

Right there in the middle of the page you link to it says under All firearm deaths:
Number of deaths: 31,672Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.3


"Because someone calls you out and dissects your argument on - well, whatever - in a way that is factually accurate, and forces you to backpedal or further explain your belief in something, that does not make them a troll. That's actually what adults call debate. You precious little flower you. "

LOL
 
2013-05-12 06:03:00 PM  

Demetrius: Wall-to-wall coverage....

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Hey, did you hear about Benghazi...

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This is the right wing troll notification system.
 
2013-05-12 06:03:03 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!
 
2013-05-12 06:03:35 PM  

iq_in_binary: Iplaybass: hardinparamedic: birdmanesq: Guns were involved in 2/3 of the homicides in 2011. And that omits suicides and accidents.

The point called from Beijing, and said hi.  It's not just a gun problem. It's a complex, multifactorial issue. The idea that you can distill it down to a gun problem is an insane attempt at hiding your head in the dirt.

And the majority of those homicides involved drug and drug-related crimes, and were committed using semi-automatic handguns. Yet, somehow, blatantly banning all guns is going to solve the problems?

Let's not address the drug culture and problems with the laughable "War on Drugs".
Let's not address crippling poverty, lack of a single-payer healthcare system, or the failure of the system as it stands to care for mentally ill people.
Let's not address the fact there are reasonable measures that we can undertake to reduce gun violence, such as closing background loopholes.

But no. Let's ban the guns. That'll solve everything!

It's a complex, multifactorial issue that could be halted significantly with tightened gun laws. But no, you retards are too stupid to see that. Despite the fact that it's worked elsewhere.

No it hasn't. Nobody has successfully tried to reign in a pool of 250-300 million firearms in the hands of just as many people.

But keep pretending it isn't a pipe dream despite the mountains of evidence that say otherwise.


"Mountains of evidence". Bullshiat. You mean "mountains of propaganda from the NRA". Wake up to yourself.
 
2013-05-12 06:04:29 PM  

libranoelrose: "Because someone calls you out and dissects your argument on - well, whatever - in a way that is factually accurate, and forces you to backpedal or further explain your belief in something, that does not make them a troll. That's actually what adults call debate. You precious little flower you. "

LOL


Or, you could admit you're blatantly wrong.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-12 06:04:37 PM  

udhq: Noam Chimpsky: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 

Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!


They can't acknowledge that a line must be drawn somehwere and that it is ALWAYS arbitrary based on societal conditions, but I acknowledge your resilience against their strong mental deficiencies.
 
2013-05-12 06:05:06 PM  

coeyagi: iq_in_binary: coeyagi: super_grass: coeyagi: Dimensio: Nabb1: EVERYBODY PANIC: Hey, that's my hometown. Only a dozen injured? And this is news? Meh.

Local reports seem to indicate one gang member shooting at another in a crowd and hitting just about everyone else but the guy he wanted to shoot. But, hey, political circle jerk.

Gun rights advocates remain hopeful that some of the injured will eventually die so the NRA can go on the defensive and drive gun sales.

FTFY

That makes zero sense. If what you said was true then gun sales would jump after every local gangland drive-by.

Gun sales jumped after the shootings because suddenly politicians and news networks started talking about gun control. People decided to guy guns before it becomes harder/more expensive to do so.

It's the Streisand effect, not some NRA conspiracy.

Oh dear lord.  Sure, you just keep believing that if the NRA isn't stoking the fire of fear in gun owners, that the guns and ammo will be flying off the shelves at the rate they've been.

Follow the money.

1) Tragedy.
2) Call for gun control.
3) NRA stokes fear.
4) People buy guns / ammo.
5) More money in gun manufacturers' pockets.
6) More money to go to the NRA from gun manufacturers.

I am not saying they would do this, but given that model, it would be in the best financial interest of everyone if the NRA just armed all the school children it could.  But I am SURE they haven't every suggested anything remotely similar to that before...

That you think the NRA is funded by gun manufacturers shows just how little you know about the subject.

Now, I'm not saying that the whole fear stoking cycle doesn't exist--it is obvious that it does--but to say that it is some grand conspiracy on the part of gun manufacturers is wholly ignorant and just as desperately conspiratorial as the Alex Jones crowd tends to be.

The NRA is funded by dues, even the NRA-ILA's lobbying is funded almost entirely by member dues.

Yeah, you're actually wrong there chief ...


Jesus H Titty farking, Tap Dancing, Balls Deep In Mary Magdalene Christ crushing crackers on a pogo stick, did you read the farking article?

Over $200 Million raised, less than $15 Million contributed by gun manufacturers.

Way to prove my point for me.
 
2013-05-12 06:05:13 PM  

udhq: Noam Chimpsky: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 

Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!


It can be changed though, updated. And should be.
 
2013-05-12 06:06:15 PM  

Hebalo: Lol. Yes but anyone who thinks some street gang armed with pistols, or a bunch of loonies in Montana are going to stop Seal Team 6 when they come for your guns is delusional.


I have an otherwise not-an-idiot friend who believes this. He's not a racist or anything but he really believes that if the government does get out of line that he and his well armed friends will straighten shiat out and that's what the 2nd amendment is for.

I'm not against gun ownership. I have a Walther PPK myself. Because that's what James Bond uses and I go shooting with my dad. But just admit that it's a toy or for self defense in the highly unlikely situation where you're attacked does occur. Just knock off the "overthrowing the government" horseshiat.
 
2013-05-12 06:06:33 PM  
We need to ban Mother's Day, it's just too dangerous. We could replace it with Gun Day. For safety.
 
2013-05-12 06:07:04 PM  

Ebenator: Unrelated, but this was the cover of today's New York Post:
[img.photobucket.com image 400x187]

/classy


Free Jahar?? Wait a second, when did it go from Dzshokalal or whatever to Jahar?
 
2013-05-12 06:07:05 PM  

udhq: Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!


Technically, it's not infringment of a right. The SCOTUS has asserted that States and the Federal Government are able to regulate the arms a civilian can legally own that are not in common use - i.e. AAA guns.

Technically, as well, it's legal to own a 40mm Bofors AA gun if you buy the tax stamp for it and go through the documentation process. You could technically own a Rheinmetal 120mm Cannon off an M1 Abrahams and it be totally legal with that.

Fun fact: You could own a minigun today with that tax stamp, and be just like Arnie.
 
2013-05-12 06:08:37 PM  
Three suspects were spotted near a pressure cooker at an Asian Buffet on S Carrollton Ave.
 
2013-05-12 06:08:44 PM  

Mugato: Hebalo: Lol. Yes but anyone who thinks some street gang armed with pistols, or a bunch of loonies in Montana are going to stop Seal Team 6 when they come for your guns is delusional.

I have an otherwise not-an-idiot friend who believes this. He's not a racist or anything but he really believes that if the government does get out of line that he and his well armed friends will straighten shiat out and that's what the 2nd amendment is for.

I'm not against gun ownership. I have a Walther PPK myself. Because that's what James Bond uses and I go shooting with my dad. But just admit that it's a toy or for self defense in the highly unlikely situation where you're attacked does occur. Just knock off the "overthrowing the government" horseshiat.


Liberals aren't anti-gun. We're anti-gun-nut.
 
2013-05-12 06:08:52 PM  
I have figured out a way to reduce my argument, in this debate, to its smallest possible form. I think this explains my position (and that of many other people), quite well:

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2013-05-12 06:09:32 PM  

hardinparamedic: libranoelrose: "Because someone calls you out and dissects your argument on - well, whatever - in a way that is factually accurate, and forces you to backpedal or further explain your belief in something, that does not make them a troll. That's actually what adults call debate. You precious little flower you. "

LOL

Or, you could admit you're blatantly wrong.

[i.imgur.com image 330x139]


Why are we suddenly harping on  accidental gun deaths? I'm pretty sure these gunshots weren't accidental.
 
2013-05-12 06:09:44 PM  

simrobert2001: Dang it people, can we NOT have a reason for the gun grabbers to grab guns for a week? Seriously, what the hell?


Chances the guns used were legally purchased are minimal.
 
2013-05-12 06:11:17 PM  

WippitGuud: Why are we suddenly harping on  accidental gun deaths? I'm pretty sure these gunshots weren't accidental.


Directly addressing an argument that  ontariolightning made about accidental gun deaths. Apparently, somehow in there I psychically called someone a troll, or something.

a_real_human_being: I have figured out a way to reduce my argument, in this debate, to its smallest possible form. I think this explains my position (and that of many other people), quite well:

[img189.imageshack.us image 480x410]


Actually, it's quite legal to own a block of C4, either if you have a Federal Explosives license, or if you have a tax stamp for each individual block of explosive you have - they count as a destructive device.
 
2013-05-12 06:11:24 PM  

iq_in_binary: Watch how fast it gets buried if it turns out to be gang related.

Will Fox, MSNBC and CNN be covering this in a few hours? Will there be non-stop coverage for the next 3 days?

I'm guessing no. Nobody cares unless it's white people.


Foxnews has it up.  CNN, not so much.  But Foxnews is the one that's racist, right?
 
2013-05-12 06:12:16 PM  
Vital stats how white was their skin? Unimportant, just another inner-city drive-by thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtD6mrkSZ0 (They didn't get much play in the States, but this shiat is more relevant than ever)

/if God made man
//Sam Colt made him equal.
 
2013-05-12 06:13:06 PM  

Iplaybass: iq_in_binary: Iplaybass: hardinparamedic: birdmanesq: Guns were involved in 2/3 of the homicides in 2011. And that omits suicides and accidents.

The point called from Beijing, and said hi.  It's not just a gun problem. It's a complex, multifactorial issue. The idea that you can distill it down to a gun problem is an insane attempt at hiding your head in the dirt.

And the majority of those homicides involved drug and drug-related crimes, and were committed using semi-automatic handguns. Yet, somehow, blatantly banning all guns is going to solve the problems?

Let's not address the drug culture and problems with the laughable "War on Drugs".
Let's not address crippling poverty, lack of a single-payer healthcare system, or the failure of the system as it stands to care for mentally ill people.
Let's not address the fact there are reasonable measures that we can undertake to reduce gun violence, such as closing background loopholes.

But no. Let's ban the guns. That'll solve everything!

It's a complex, multifactorial issue that could be halted significantly with tightened gun laws. But no, you retards are too stupid to see that. Despite the fact that it's worked elsewhere.

No it hasn't. Nobody has successfully tried to reign in a pool of 250-300 million firearms in the hands of just as many people.

But keep pretending it isn't a pipe dream despite the mountains of evidence that say otherwise.

"Mountains of evidence". Bullshiat. You mean "mountains of propaganda from the NRA". Wake up to yourself.


You're talking to the one gunsmith on Fark who is not only rabidly anti-NRA, but rabidly pro gun control. Difference is I know what works and what doesn't. I proposed expanding the NFA to include basically everything, because that would work. Bans won't.

But because it doesn't include banning things that politicians from California hold up at rallies to stoke fear them damn selves, you lump me in with the NRA crowd.

Otherism is bad when the NRA does it, but not when you do?
 
2013-05-12 06:13:11 PM  
It's just a false Flag operation by the CIA to take our guns away. These guys were last seen there:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-12 06:13:37 PM  

LL316: Foxnews has it up.  CNN, not so much.  But Foxnews is the one that's racist, right?


Fox News is only interested in being able to spin this as more ammunition for the evil kenyan usurper to be able to march into YOUR HOUSE with his secret army and take your guns.
 
2013-05-12 06:14:42 PM  
Sheesh..... is it not now obvious we need to install a no-fly zone in Syria and bomb Chechnya for good measure?
 
2013-05-12 06:14:52 PM  

hardinparamedic: udhq: Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!

Technically, it's not infringment of a right. The SCOTUS has asserted that States and the Federal Government are able to regulate the arms a civilian can legally own that are not in common use - i.e. AAA guns.

Technically, as well, it's legal to own a 40mm Bofors AA gun if you buy the tax stamp for it and go through the documentation process. You could technically own a Rheinmetal 120mm Cannon off an M1 Abrahams and it be totally legal with that.

Fun fact: You could own a minigun today with that tax stamp, and be just like Arnie.


You seem like you might know. What's involved in a 'tax stamp'? As a for-instance, I'd like to own an FN P90, but in order to have the shortened bullpup barrel, you apparently have to have the tax stamp for it. I was never able to figure out what's involved in that, or how much it would cost.
 
2013-05-12 06:16:22 PM  
Time to buy stock in the companies that make penis replacements for gun nuts.
 
2013-05-12 06:18:04 PM  
Actually, I think grenades are a better comparison item than C4. Revised argument:

img195.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-12 06:19:14 PM  

Arachnophobe: You seem like you might know. What's involved in a 'tax stamp'? As a for-instance, I'd like to own an FN P90, but in order to have the shortened bullpup barrel, you apparently have to have the tax stamp for it. I was never able to figure out what's involved in that, or how much it would cost.


Unless you're a member of a LE or Government Agency, or you work for a security or protection company with a license from the State Department - like PMCs - to own one, you're not going to get an FN P90, as the company only sells to these agencies due to the nature of the 5.7mm round. (And if you own a FiveseveN pistol, getting ammo for it is a biatch). You can buy the civilian version of it, the PS90, and get a tax stamp to modify the barrel, but it'll be semi-auto only.

If you want a tax stamp, the ATF has an FAQ about it.

There are a few FARKers who also hold their Class III FFL license, and are able to sell them, so they might be able to help you more as well.
 
2013-05-12 06:19:18 PM  

udhq: Noam Chimpsky: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 

Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!


by that logic as long as the government keeps infringing your rights, then it is okay that they infringe on more of your right?
 
2013-05-12 06:19:29 PM  

Arachnophobe: hardinparamedic: udhq: Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!

Technically, it's not infringment of a right. The SCOTUS has asserted that States and the Federal Government are able to regulate the arms a civilian can legally own that are not in common use - i.e. AAA guns.

Technically, as well, it's legal to own a 40mm Bofors AA gun if you buy the tax stamp for it and go through the documentation process. You could technically own a Rheinmetal 120mm Cannon off an M1 Abrahams and it be totally legal with that.

Fun fact: You could own a minigun today with that tax stamp, and be just like Arnie.

You seem like you might know. What's involved in a 'tax stamp'? As a for-instance, I'd like to own an FN P90, but in order to have the shortened bullpup barrel, you apparently have to have the tax stamp for it. I was never able to figure out what's involved in that, or how much it would cost.


$200 and approval of the local sheriff or other equivalent LEO, plus a wait of several months.  If you live in a free state, that is.  Because SBRs are a scourge upon our cities and will lead to rivers of blood running down the streets, as evidenced by Canada's restrictions on SBRs.....
 
2013-05-12 06:19:34 PM  

Mazzic518: coeyagi: simrobert2001: Dang it people, can we NOT have a reason for the gun grabbers to grab guns for a week? Seriously, what the hell?

How many of your guns have the gun grabbers grabbed?

I grabbed one of my guns the other day


I'm "grabbing my gun" tight now!
 
2013-05-12 06:19:41 PM  

Triumph: Man, New Orleans will have a parade for anything.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-12 06:20:21 PM  

hardinparamedic: udhq: Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!

Technically, it's not infringment of a right. The SCOTUS has asserted that States and the Federal Government are able to regulate the arms a civilian can legally own that are not in common use - i.e. AAA guns.

Technically, as well, it's legal to own a 40mm Bofors AA gun if you buy the tax stamp for it and go through the documentation process. You could technically own a Rheinmetal 120mm Cannon off an M1 Abrahams and it be totally legal with that.


I don't think you can do the last one.  I seem to remember reading somewhere the largest caliber of live weapon you can own is 100mm.  Anything over that has to be deactivated.
 
2013-05-12 06:20:30 PM  

a_real_human_being: Actually, I think grenades are a better comparison item than C4. Revised argument:

[img195.imageshack.us image 492x559]


You can own grenades too.....
 
2013-05-12 06:20:38 PM  
We need more guns! More guns = more safety.

Remember only a good parade attendant can stop a bad parade attendant.
 
2013-05-12 06:21:05 PM  

a_real_human_being: Actually, I think grenades are a better comparison item than C4. Revised argument:

[img195.imageshack.us image 492x559]


Legal to own with a DD Tax Stamp, too. But you have to have an individual tax stamp for each grenade you own.

Technically, as long as you have a tax stamp for the launcher and for each missile, you could own a Javelin ATM, an RPG-7, or an AT-4 if someone was willing to sell it to you.
 
2013-05-12 06:23:01 PM  
Yo mama so shot...
She got both a doctor with a needle and a bartender with a small glass on speed dial.
 
2013-05-12 06:23:35 PM  

Caradoc: hardinparamedic: Given that this was NOLA, I doubt it was mentally ill and more gangbanger.

There's a difference?


Let's have an investigation to determine if Hillary Clinton knew it was one, but said the other, and why the police didn't send reinforcements in time.
 
2013-05-12 06:23:48 PM  

Arachnophobe: hardinparamedic: udhq: Which is why, according to the second amendment, I am free to own all the fully automatic and shoulder-mounted anti-personnel/aircraft arms I desire.

Oh wait, turns out that right CAN BE and frequently IS infringed!

Technically, it's not infringment of a right. The SCOTUS has asserted that States and the Federal Government are able to regulate the arms a civilian can legally own that are not in common use - i.e. AAA guns.

Technically, as well, it's legal to own a 40mm Bofors AA gun if you buy the tax stamp for it and go through the documentation process. You could technically own a Rheinmetal 120mm Cannon off an M1 Abrahams and it be totally legal with that.

Fun fact: You could own a minigun today with that tax stamp, and be just like Arnie.

You seem like you might know. What's involved in a 'tax stamp'? As a for-instance, I'd like to own an FN P90, but in order to have the shortened bullpup barrel, you apparently have to have the tax stamp for it. I was never able to figure out what's involved in that, or how much it would cost.


$200 Tax Stamp, but you're only going to be able to own the semi-auto version because the P90 was manufactured after the Hughes amendment. Now, if you want to own a select fire M16, again it's $200 but you're going to pay $30,000+ for one in good condition.

One of the stipulations of my proposal was a repeal of the Hughes amendment for that very reason.
 
2013-05-12 06:25:50 PM  

a_real_human_being: Actually, I think grenades are a better comparison item than C4. Revised argument:

[img195.imageshack.us image 492x559]


Completely legal to purchase and own, actually. Depending on state and local laws, of course. But at the Federal level, it's just a $200 tax stamp.

That you didn't know that shows how uneducated you are on the subject.
 
2013-05-12 06:26:53 PM  

iq_in_binary: Completely legal to purchase and own, actually. Depending on state and local laws, of course. But at the Federal level, it's just a $200 tax stamp.


I've dreamed about getting my Federal Explosives License because I could make and own those things without paying 200 bucks each. My family has a LOT of land in Middle Tennessee that is unoccupied, and I could blow a lot of holes in the ground without making anyone in danger.
 
2013-05-12 06:26:54 PM  

SurfaceTension: Mugato: Hebalo: Lol. Yes but anyone who thinks some street gang armed with pistols, or a bunch of loonies in Montana are going to stop Seal Team 6 when they come for your guns is delusional.

I have an otherwise not-an-idiot friend who believes this. He's not a racist or anything but he really believes that if the government does get out of line that he and his well armed friends will straighten shiat out and that's what the 2nd amendment is for.

I'm not against gun ownership. I have a Walther PPK myself. Because that's what James Bond uses and I go shooting with my dad. But just admit that it's a toy or for self defense in the highly unlikely situation where you're attacked does occur. Just knock off the "overthrowing the government" horseshiat.

Liberals aren't anti-gun. We're anti-gun-nut.


While, for the most part, this is true, there's a disturbing vibe in this topic that makes me think some people wanted some deaths out of this so there could be a renewed political debate.

For their part, the NRA and some of their more enlightened followers have done their best to dissuade me from owning a gun for the forseeable future. That said, damn, some of you idiots aren't helping. The amount of vitrol and rhetoric is outpacing the actual information and even the snark on an exponential level.
 
2013-05-12 06:26:55 PM  
Triple the tax on ammunition. Quadruple even.
 
2013-05-12 06:28:39 PM  

hardinparamedic: Arachnophobe: You seem like you might know. What's involved in a 'tax stamp'? As a for-instance, I'd like to own an FN P90, but in order to have the shortened bullpup barrel, you apparently have to have the tax stamp for it. I was never able to figure out what's involved in that, or how much it would cost.

Unless you're a member of a LE or Government Agency, or you work for a security or protection company with a license from the State Department - like PMCs - to own one, you're not going to get an FN P90, as the company only sells to these agencies due to the nature of the 5.7mm round. (And if you own a FiveseveN pistol, getting ammo for it is a biatch). You can buy the civilian version of it, the PS90, and get a tax stamp to modify the barrel, but it'll be semi-auto only.

If you want a tax stamp, the ATF has an FAQ about it.

There are a few FARKers who also hold their Class III FFL license, and are able to sell them, so they might be able to help you more as well.


This was educational, thank you. I'd assumed it was semi-auto, I have absolutely no reason to even handle a full auto and wouldn't want one anyway. So if I really wanted to do it, I'd get the civilian and get a gunsmith to modify it.

Just from a quick skim of that link you gave, it seems like the tax stamps are mainly provided to businesses? I'm starting to think it might be easier to just stick with the standard PS90. I suspect getting the ammunition for it will be enough of a hassle as it is.

Thanks again for the quick info.
 
2013-05-12 06:28:57 PM  

Jaicu: Triple the tax on ammunition. Quadruple even.


What tax?

And have you never heard of a Rock Chucker?
 
2013-05-12 06:30:13 PM  

Clutch2013: SurfaceTension: Mugato: Hebalo: Lol. Yes but anyone who thinks some street gang armed with pistols, or a bunch of loonies in Montana are going to stop Seal Team 6 when they come for your guns is delusional.

I have an otherwise not-an-idiot friend who believes this. He's not a racist or anything but he really believes that if the government does get out of line that he and his well armed friends will straighten shiat out and that's what the 2nd amendment is for.

I'm not against gun ownership. I have a Walther PPK myself. Because that's what James Bond uses and I go shooting with my dad. But just admit that it's a toy or for self defense in the highly unlikely situation where you're attacked does occur. Just knock off the "overthrowing the government" horseshiat.

Liberals aren't anti-gun. We're anti-gun-nut.

While, for the most part, this is true, there's a disturbing vibe in this topic that makes me think some people wanted some deaths out of this so there could be a renewed political debate.

For their part, the NRA and some of their more enlightened followers have done their best to dissuade me from owning a gun for the forseeable future. That said, damn, some of you idiots aren't helping. The amount of vitrol and rhetoric is outpacing the actual information and even the snark on an exponential level.


Upon rereading this, I get the sense I've committed grammatical manslaughter of some sort...
 
2013-05-12 06:31:00 PM  
What is a mothers day second line parade and why do they have it in an alley?
 
2013-05-12 06:32:03 PM  

Clutch2013: SurfaceTension: Mugato: Hebalo: Lol. Yes but anyone who thinks some street gang armed with pistols, or a bunch of loonies in Montana are going to stop Seal Team 6 when they come for your guns is delusional.

I have an otherwise not-an-idiot friend who believes this. He's not a racist or anything but he really believes that if the government does get out of line that he and his well armed friends will straighten shiat out and that's what the 2nd amendment is for.

I'm not against gun ownership. I have a Walther PPK myself. Because that's what James Bond uses and I go shooting with my dad. But just admit that it's a toy or for self defense in the highly unlikely situation where you're attacked does occur. Just knock off the "overthrowing the government" horseshiat.

Liberals aren't anti-gun. We're anti-gun-nut.

While, for the most part, this is true, there's a disturbing vibe in this topic that makes me think some people wanted some deaths out of this so there could be a renewed political debate.

For their part, the NRA and some of their more enlightened followers have done their best to dissuade me from owning a gun for the forseeable future. That said, damn, some of you idiots aren't helping. The amount of vitrol and rhetoric is outpacing the actual information and even the snark on an exponential level.


The NRA and its strictest adherents' level of crazy and retarded derp can be easily explained by the fact that the NRA is now a de facto base stroking organ of the Republican Party. They stopped representing gun owners over a decade ago. You could alleviate a ton of confusion and clear up many of the troubling nuances of these debate by simply replacing NRA with "Republican" in all future debates on the subject.
 
2013-05-12 06:32:08 PM  

hardinparamedic: iq_in_binary: Completely legal to purchase and own, actually. Depending on state and local laws, of course. But at the Federal level, it's just a $200 tax stamp.

I've dreamed about getting my Federal Explosives License because I could make and own those things without paying 200 bucks each. My family has a LOT of land in Middle Tennessee that is unoccupied, and I could blow a lot of holes in the ground without making anyone in danger.


I say gopher it.
 
2013-05-12 06:32:10 PM  
Yo mama so shot...
She don't even know how to put.
 
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