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2013-05-12 03:37:55 PM
If hot teachers can be fired for having bikini pics found by students, dumb Principals should also be fired for having mugshots.
 
2013-05-12 04:05:20 PM

FirstNationalBastard: If hot teachers can be fired for having bikini pics found by students, dumb Principals should also be fired for having mugshots.


I don't support firing teachers for having a private life, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. You are absolutely correct - administrators should be held to an even higher standard than teachers.

Besides, this administrator is clearly a bully and an imbecile who doesn't understand student rights.
 
2013-05-12 04:21:16 PM
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2013-05-12 04:23:44 PM

Kimothy: FirstNationalBastard: If hot teachers can be fired for having bikini pics found by students, dumb Principals should also be fired for having mugshots.

I don't support firing teachers for having a private life, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. You are absolutely correct - administrators should be held to an even higher standard than teachers.

Besides, this administrator is clearly a bully and an imbecile who doesn't understand student rights.


This
 
2013-05-12 05:35:20 PM
I thought that Keandre Varner is a child rapist and has been known to eat babies.
This isn't libel because I am only thinking it. I am not saying that he is. But I think it would explain a lot.

/lol

Can someone explain to me how you are arrested and processed (mug shot) for "She had been arrested for missing a court appearance that merely concerned a speeding ticket. "?

nothing personal, but a society which arrests you for that needs to be burned to the ground and start all over.
 
2013-05-12 05:43:19 PM
He's guilty of libel so the little shiat is lucky he's getting off with a suspension.
 
2013-05-12 05:44:24 PM
As stupid as the administrator seems to be, the kid did claim she had been arrested for DUI when she was not. Obviously, he can not be arrested for it, but do libel laws apply to internet posting?
 
2013-05-12 05:49:33 PM

insano: As stupid as the administrator seems to be, the kid did claim she had been arrested for DUI when she was not. Obviously, he can not be arrested for it, but do libel laws apply to internet posting?


Popcorn Johnny: He's guilty of libel so the little shiat is lucky he's getting off with a suspension.


It depends on how it was phrased: Here's a mugshot of the principal after getting arrested for a DUI vs. Here's a mugshot of the principal, I think she'd been arrested for DUI.  One is likely libel, one is just stating an opinion.
 
2013-05-12 05:57:52 PM

insano: As stupid as the administrator seems to be, the kid did claim she had been arrested for DUI when she was not. Obviously, he can not be arrested for it, but do libel laws apply to internet posting?


of course they do
but
he is probably underage and in the end, what is the penalty for writing that your principal is a drunk?
LOL
 
2013-05-12 06:03:50 PM
It SHOULD be illegal to post mugshots of people who were not convicted.

The police are VERY fallible. They are not only not good at catching people, but they're very good at inflating charges. So when they drag you in for a mugshot, chances are you're probably not guilty of what you're there for, and so it should be illegal to have such a photo or display it publicly.
 
2013-05-12 06:12:23 PM

doglover: It SHOULD be illegal to post mugshots of people who were not convicted.

The police are VERY fallible. They are not only not good at catching people, but they're very good at inflating charges. So when they drag you in for a mugshot, chances are you're probably not guilty of what you're there for, and so it should be illegal to have such a photo or display it publicly.


walks of shame
releasing the names of arrested people
releasing why they were arrested
etc etc etc
 
2013-05-12 06:14:21 PM

Popcorn Johnny: He's guilty of libel so the little shiat is lucky he's getting off with a suspension.


When was he found guilty of libel?  Or do you mean you think he has libeled the principal?  Kind of like the student said he thinks the principal was arrested for DUI.
 
2013-05-12 06:14:46 PM

Kimothy: Besides, this administrator is clearly a bully and an imbecile who doesn't understand student rights.


Or traffic signs. Or court dates.
 
2013-05-12 06:15:53 PM
The comments on that article are ... wow.

God bless the Internet, where bigots no longer need to worry about shame.
 
2013-05-12 06:16:27 PM
Eh.. The student posted he she was arrested for DUI.. That's a hell of an accusation to make.. Especially since it wasn't true. Lesson learned for assuming..
 
2013-05-12 06:17:54 PM

timujin: insano: As stupid as the administrator seems to be, the kid did claim she had been arrested for DUI when she was not. Obviously, he can not be arrested for it, but do libel laws apply to internet posting?

Popcorn Johnny: He's guilty of libel so the little shiat is lucky he's getting off with a suspension.

It depends on how it was phrased: Here's a mugshot of the principal after getting arrested for a DUI vs. Here's a mugshot of the principal, I think she'd been arrested for DUI.  One is likely libel, one is just stating an opinion.


It's a guess, not an opinion.
 
2013-05-12 06:17:54 PM
I submitted this three days ago, late to the party submitter.

"Post your principal's mugshot on Instagram, that's a suspension"
 
2013-05-12 06:18:55 PM
The login name explains it all.
 
2013-05-12 06:20:28 PM

Hoopy Frood: timujin: insano: As stupid as the administrator seems to be, the kid did claim she had been arrested for DUI when she was not. Obviously, he can not be arrested for it, but do libel laws apply to internet posting?

Popcorn Johnny: He's guilty of libel so the little shiat is lucky he's getting off with a suspension.

It depends on how it was phrased: Here's a mugshot of the principal after getting arrested for a DUI vs. Here's a mugshot of the principal, I think she'd been arrested for DUI.  One is likely libel, one is just stating an opinion.

It's a guess, not an opinion.


Regardless, it's not stating that it's a fact.
 
2013-05-12 06:21:03 PM

optimistic_cynic: Kimothy: FirstNationalBastard: If hot teachers can be fired for having bikini pics found by students, dumb Principals should also be fired for having mugshots.

I don't support firing teachers for having a private life, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. You are absolutely correct - administrators should be held to an even higher standard than teachers.

Besides, this administrator is clearly a bully and an imbecile who doesn't understand student rights.

This


I was told when I was in high school that students had no rights.  They even took the stall doors off in our bathrooms so if you popped a squat everyone could see.
 
2013-05-12 06:21:23 PM
No sooner does one odd controversy erupt in our teen education centers than another appears like a tardy bus.

No you didn't
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-12 06:21:29 PM
timujin: It depends on how it was phrased: Here's a mugshot of the principal after getting arrested for a DUI vs. Here's a mugshot of the principal, I think she'd been arrested for DUI. One is likely libel, one is just stating an opinion.

"in the United States, first, the person must prove that the statement was false. Second, the person must prove that the statement caused harm. Third, the person must prove that the statement was made without adequate research into the truthfulness of the statement."

So, if she actually got arrested for a DUI, no case.
 
2013-05-12 06:21:47 PM

namatad: Can someone explain to me how you are arrested and processed (mug shot) for "She had been arrested for missing a court appearance that merely concerned a speeding ticket. "?


The whole story probably is, that she got pulled over with a failure to appear warrant for not paying her speeding ticket. so they took her in. If you forget to pay a speeding ticket and go to the court to rectify it you do not get arrested, if you ignore it you get arrested.
 
2013-05-12 06:21:59 PM
Apparently "Creating an Alt" isn't required learning in high school these days.
 
2013-05-12 06:22:45 PM
She should have bullied this student in an all-school assembly.
 
2013-05-12 06:22:48 PM
Everyone, including the writer, is a farkwit in this story.
 
2013-05-12 06:23:01 PM
Abuse of power, if she has a problem she can go through the courts but not using her own power over a person.
 
2013-05-12 06:23:23 PM
FTA:  "This is the Internet age. You're supposed to spread misinformation."

Many people today believe this.  The world is slowly turning into one big neighborhood full of gossiping housewives spreading idiotic rumors.
 
2013-05-12 06:23:34 PM

timujin: insano: As stupid as the administrator seems to be, the kid did claim she had been arrested for DUI when she was not. Obviously, he can not be arrested for it, but do libel laws apply to internet posting?

Popcorn Johnny: He's guilty of libel so the little shiat is lucky he's getting off with a suspension.

It depends on how it was phrased: Here's a mugshot of the principal after getting arrested for a DUI vs. Here's a mugshot of the principal, I think she'd been arrested for DUI.  One is likely libel, one is just stating an opinion.


I'm not saying that the principal got arrested for a DUI, I'm just asking questions.
 
2013-05-12 06:25:27 PM

lordargent: timujin: It depends on how it was phrased: Here's a mugshot of the principal after getting arrested for a DUI vs. Here's a mugshot of the principal, I think she'd been arrested for DUI. One is likely libel, one is just stating an opinion.

"in the United States, first, the person must prove that the statement was false. Second, the person must prove that the statement caused harm. Third, the person must prove that the statement was made without adequate research into the truthfulness of the statement."

So, if she actually got arrested for a DUI, no case.


But she didn't, so is there a case?
 
2013-05-12 06:26:18 PM

shoegaze99: The comments on that article are ... wow.

God bless the Internet, where bigots no longer need to worry about shame.


Hell, bigots can even be bronies and furries on the internet.
 
2013-05-12 06:26:18 PM
Mugshots and arrest records are public documents.
Sounds like Anonymous could have a field day with this one.
 
2013-05-12 06:27:21 PM
Meh. I was 100% in the student's camp until this:

Varner chose to add that he thought she'd been arrested for a DUI. This turned out not to have been the case.

Could have been libel if he'd worded his suspicions poorly, but at the very least he's initiating unfounded rumors. I can see why people might be pissed at him.
 
2013-05-12 06:27:47 PM

Tom_Slick: namatad: Can someone explain to me how you are arrested and processed (mug shot) for "She had been arrested for missing a court appearance that merely concerned a speeding ticket. "?

The whole story probably is, that she got pulled over with a failure to appear warrant for not paying her speeding ticket. so they took her in. If you forget to pay a speeding ticket and go to the court to rectify it you do not get arrested, if you ignore it you get arrested.


really?
cause the world I live in, they just keep sending you notices of a rescheduled court date. Hell, for my actual DUI I got 2-3 notices before I went and took care of it.
Of course that was 1985 aka the dark ages. I still cant imagine that a city would waste that amount of resources on a moving violation.
Dont they have real crimes they should be working on? like missing donuts?
 
2013-05-12 06:27:59 PM
Something tells me this principal is about to be introduced to the Streisand Effect.
 
2013-05-12 06:29:45 PM

FirstNationalBastard: If hot teachers can be fired for having bikini pics found by students, dumb Principals should also be fired for having mugshots.


One is usually voluntary, the other is usually not. Also, unless the arrest itself is somehow against school policy (for instance, if she'd had a felony conviction that she did not report before hiring and they specifically asked about such), then no; her criminal record would already have been known by the school system.
 
2013-05-12 06:30:20 PM
I think she was arrested for prostitution
 
2013-05-12 06:31:54 PM

lordargent: I submitted this three days ago, late to the party submitter.

"Post your principal's mugshot on Instagram, that's a suspension"


Yeah but you aren't TotalFark.   So you see, your headline was taken, modified and another link was found to steal your glory.   That's the the Farkin way.
 
2013-05-12 06:32:43 PM

God--: I think she was arrested for prostitution


Ewwwww....someone would actually pay for that?
 
2013-05-12 06:32:49 PM
This is why I will never have kids.  The second they find my mugshot with a simple search, my authority is instantly and forever undermined.  Nothing else I have ever done would matter.
 
2013-05-12 06:32:50 PM
It seems that your average school official is like the Queen of Hearts screaming "off with his/her head!", except it is "Suspension!"

Why, why do such totally brain-dead morons wind up with that job?

Don't they even stop to think that their actions are inviting ridicule by those who actually have a modicum of critical thinking skills?
 
2013-05-12 06:34:20 PM

timujin: But she didn't, so is there a case?


yes there is a case - but
http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/97/003/0055.htm
(random state, assuming that most states are similar)
'Any person who shall be convicted of writing or publishing any libel, shall be fined in such sum or imprisoned in the county jail for such term as the court, in its discretion, may adjudge, having regard to the nature and enormity of the offense, or be punished by both such fine and imprisonment. "

If she lost a multimillion dollar contract and suffer huge uproar nationally, which led to death threats, he might be in trouble.
If the school district fired her, she would probably have cause against them for wrongful termination. And the loss of income might be part of the libel suit against him.
But a rational judge would look at this and laugh. Find the kid guilty, couple hours of community service and a public apology.

but jail or prison? LOL no
and punitive damages? LOL no
compensatory? LOL not unless she gets fired and even then, he is a kid

He would have to be charged and tried as an adult for this to even begin to get traction.
Juvie court would just laugh at her.
 
2013-05-12 06:35:01 PM

ArcadianRefugee: FirstNationalBastard: If hot teachers can be fired for having bikini pics found by students, dumb Principals should also be fired for having mugshots.

One is usually voluntary, the other is usually not. Also, unless the arrest itself is somehow against school policy (for instance, if she'd had a felony conviction that she did not report before hiring and they specifically asked about such), then no; her criminal record would already have been known by the school system.


having someone snap a bikini pic while on summer vacation and having someone publish it against your will isn't really "voluntary"
 
2013-05-12 06:35:16 PM
Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, get promoted to principal.
 
2013-05-12 06:35:19 PM

namatad: Tom_Slick: namatad: Can someone explain to me how you are arrested and processed (mug shot) for "She had been arrested for missing a court appearance that merely concerned a speeding ticket. "?

The whole story probably is, that she got pulled over with a failure to appear warrant for not paying her speeding ticket. so they took her in. If you forget to pay a speeding ticket and go to the court to rectify it you do not get arrested, if you ignore it you get arrested.

really?
cause the world I live in, they just keep sending you notices of a rescheduled court date. Hell, for my actual DUI I got 2-3 notices before I went and took care of it.
Of course that was 1985 aka the dark ages. I still cant imagine that a city would waste that amount of resources on a moving violation.
Dont they have real crimes they should be working on? like missing donuts?


In Georgia it depends on the jurisdiction, the court can suspend your license, issue an failure to appear warrant, or reschedule the court date.  Small towns that thrive on ticket revenue tend be the hard ass warrant issuing type.

/A friend didn't pay a traffic ticket and went to Europe for 6 months he was arrested at the airport and taken to Fulton County Jail booked then transferred to the Fayette County Jail then allowed to bond out.  It took two days all this over a $88.00 speeding ticket in Tyrone GA.
 
2013-05-12 06:36:00 PM
doglover: It SHOULD be illegal to post mugshots of people who were not convicted.
 
In general the police shouldn't release mugshots at all unless there is an overriding reason.  When it's done to shame' people that's an issue because it's not the cops job to met out punishment, that's the judges job.
 
2013-05-12 06:36:50 PM
I really love how this backfired on her.  Thousands upon thousands of people know about her arrest now and have seen her mugshot.  I'm surprised she didn't think her cunning plan through before suspending him.  She's clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer... what a shame she's an educator.
 
2013-05-12 06:36:56 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Meh. I was 100% in the student's camp until this:

Varner chose to add that he thought she'd been arrested for a DUI. This turned out not to have been the case.

Could have been libel if he'd worded his suspicions poorly, but at the very least he's initiating unfounded rumors. I can see why people might be pissed at him.


Ding ding ding ding.

/at least question if the pricipal murdered and raped a girl in 1990
 
2013-05-12 06:39:24 PM
Reading that CNET article is to witness a genocide of the English language.  Those poor, poor words.
 
2013-05-12 06:41:15 PM
Schools should teach kids how to behave and what repercussions they can expect in the real world. What she should have done is taken him into her office and said, "what that is, is libel, do you know what that is? It's very serious, you could go to jail over it, so delete it, and replace it with an apology that sets everything straight and we'll go about our day". Kid learns, she gets what she wants, we don't have to read a terribly written article... but wait, guess what? Tired yet? There's, like, more! Gah, fark off!
 
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