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(Mother Jones)   Even more E.Coli in your burger? It's more likely than you think   (motherjones.com) divider line 24
    More: Scary, E. coli, Kansas State University, United States Department of Agriculture, human form, human forms, hamburgers, ethanol, renewable fuels  
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2013-05-12 05:03:22 PM
Oh God. Not E.Coli. Does it have the enterohemorrhagic production genes? Is it pathogenic? Does it produce shiga-toxin? Is it in your peehole?

These are IMPORTANT questions.

/technically, you could shiat in your hand and gobble it down, and be perfectly okay.
//Google Fecal Transplantation.
 
2013-05-12 05:15:05 PM
Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?
 
2013-05-12 05:51:57 PM

hardinparamedic: Oh God. Not E.Coli. Does it have the enterohemorrhagic production genes? Is it pathogenic? Does it produce shiga-toxin? Is it in your peehole?

These are IMPORTANT questions.

/technically, you could shiat in your hand and gobble it down, and be perfectly okay.
//Google Fecal Transplantation.


This is not how fecal transplants work.
 
2013-05-12 05:56:25 PM
You'll get over it.  Unless you don't.   In that case, bring along a good book or tablet w/ a strong battery for your dialysis session.
 
2013-05-12 06:27:47 PM

meanmutton: This is not how fecal transplants work.


It's more like a syringe puts the shiat into a NG tube, but details, details....
 
2013-05-12 06:35:40 PM
Suggest being kind to the people that make your food.
 
2013-05-12 06:40:50 PM

neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?


shut up sense maker. there is not room for that here.
 
2013-05-12 06:41:31 PM

neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?


Ayup. Cook your farking meat and wash your goddamn hands.
 
2013-05-12 06:44:20 PM

fusillade762: neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?

Ayup. Cook your farking meat and wash your goddamn hands.


In that order, or the reverse?

Wash your meat and cook your hands?

/so confused
/typical American
 
2013-05-12 06:52:33 PM

neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?


yes and no, while it will kill off the bacteria it won't destroy the toxins they produce.(think yeast-alcohol). The internal temp most cook their burgers isn't high enough to destroy them.
 
2013-05-12 06:55:01 PM

fusillade762: neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?

Ayup. Cook your farking meat and wash your goddamn hands.


Alternatively, they could just feed the cows farking grass, even just near the end of their lives, and I could have a medium burger.
 
2013-05-12 07:04:20 PM
Alternatively, they could just feed the cows farking grass, even just near the end of their lives, and I could have a medium burger.

what are you, some kinda socialist?
it's corporations god-given american right to poison consumers
 
2013-05-12 07:51:03 PM

meanmutton: hardinparamedic: Oh God. Not E.Coli. Does it have the enterohemorrhagic production genes? Is it pathogenic? Does it produce shiga-toxin? Is it in your peehole?

These are IMPORTANT questions.

/technically, you could shiat in your hand and gobble it down, and be perfectly okay.
//Google Fecal Transplantation.

This is not how fecal transplants work.


I think you need two girls and one cup.
 
2013-05-12 08:11:29 PM

lewismarktwo: fusillade762: neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?

Ayup. Cook your farking meat and wash your goddamn hands.

Alternatively, they could just feed the cows farking grass, even just near the end of their lives, and I could have a medium burger.


Virtually all Alberta beef is finished with grass. Do they not do that down there?
 
2013-05-12 08:27:06 PM

Shazam999: lewismarktwo: fusillade762: neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?

Ayup. Cook your farking meat and wash your goddamn hands.

Alternatively, they could just feed the cows farking grass, even just near the end of their lives, and I could have a medium burger.

Virtually all Alberta beef is finished with grass. Do they not do that down there?


Down here you practically have to pay an arm and a leg for them to say (though not necessarily actually do it) they let the cow ingest something that wasn't a growth hormone and/or ground-up cow.

In all seriousness, "grass-finished" is a thing - though I suspect the cow-farming types drop a single blade of grass in a giant vat of corn-cow slurry, kick the FDA rep in the breadbasket, and demand the certification.
 
2013-05-12 08:27:22 PM
I eat farking e coli for lunch!
 
2013-05-12 09:20:12 PM
Do any of these E. things consumer say 200-300 calories per burger so's I can have fries or a shake with that?
 
2013-05-12 10:00:37 PM

Tymast: neuroflare: Isn't this type of problem averted by cooking the burger?

yes and no, while it will kill off the bacteria it won't destroy the toxins they produce.(think yeast-alcohol). The internal temp most cook their burgers isn't high enough to destroy them.


This. So many people think it is about "killing the bacteria" but that is simply wrong. Even if all the germs are killed the toxins remain in the food and the toxins are in some ways worse. The body has via its immune system a way to kill the bacteria but the only way to get rid of the toxins is by flushing them out of the body, as they poison organs along the way. And for the record, some toxins in food cannot be cooked away at any temperature that would be reached by a conventional home appliance. The saying does not go, when it doubt cook it some more; the saying is when in doubt throw it out.
 
2013-05-12 10:46:43 PM
so irradiate the feed, the beef, etc.

or stop using corn for ethanol since it's really just a way to make republicans rich.

n-butanol. 2 more carbons, acceptable energy density.
 
2013-05-13 11:50:49 AM
Dear Liberals:

Thank you, so very much, for being stupid! This situation would never have arisen without your agitation for governanny to "subsidize" ethanol. Had the matter been left to the market, this wouldn't have ever happened.

Liberals really ought not be let out without adult supervision.
 
2013-05-13 03:39:57 PM
How about the processors take the time to slaughter and cut cleanly rather than putting shiat in your hamburger in the first place?

That's something industry is unwilling to do.

To-temp cooking and irradiation would be unnecessary if your hamburger didn't have shiat in it to begin with.
 
2013-05-13 05:22:42 PM

Silly_Sot: Dear Liberals:

Thank you, so very much, for being stupid! This situation would never have arisen without your agitation for governanny to "subsidize" ethanol. Had the matter been left to the market, this wouldn't have ever happened.

Liberals really ought not be let out without adult supervision.


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2013-05-13 10:33:17 PM

hardinparamedic: Oh God. Not E.Coli. Does it have the enterohemorrhagic production genes? Is it pathogenic? Does it produce shiga-toxin? Is it in your peehole?

These are IMPORTANT questions.

/technically, you could shiat in your hand and gobble it down, and be perfectly okay.
//Google Fecal Transplantation.


No... Google "the fecal oral route"

I don't remember much from my pathogenic bacteriology route, but I remember the prof saying that phrase a bunch, when disease vectors were discussed....
 
2013-05-13 11:30:52 PM

dforkus: hardinparamedic: Oh God. Not E.Coli. Does it have the enterohemorrhagic production genes? Is it pathogenic? Does it produce shiga-toxin? Is it in your peehole?

These are IMPORTANT questions.

/technically, you could shiat in your hand and gobble it down, and be perfectly okay.
//Google Fecal Transplantation.

No... Google "the fecal oral route"

I don't remember much from my pathogenic bacteriology route, but I remember the prof saying that phrase a bunch, when disease vectors were discussed....


Hey that's how polio's transmitted.  Your grandma did ATM!
 
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