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(Digital Spy)   The twenty-five greatest movie villains of all time. Why so serious?   (digitalspy.com) divider line 62
    More: Scary, Darth Vader, Joker, villains, Heath Ledger, J.J. Abrams  
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2013-05-12 10:40:10 PM  
Sheleen Strawn
 
2013-05-12 10:42:09 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: Darth_Lukecash: FirstNationalBastard: doglover: Heath Ledger's Joker was nice, but if he hadn't died no one would remember.

Not to mention, he wasn't playing The Joker.

Could you see Ledger's Joker creating and using Joker Fish?

No?

Then he's not The Joker, just some LOOK AT ME, I'M CRAAAAAAAAAZY attention whore in bad make-up... kind of like a Jersey Shore castmember.

Normally we're on the same page on comic things-but you are wrong about Heath Ledgers Joker. Nolan's films weren't the traditional comic style adaptations, they were interpretations of the mythology that kept the spirit of the characters. For example: Ras still "came back from the dead" but in a more logical way. He also had the same burn earth tactics on solving a problem, except it was on crime...not the ecology.

So in that context, Ledgers Joker was perfect. And not only that, he was actually pretty dam funny in a wrong way.

Sorry bro, but I think you're dead wrong.

Not even in the context of that universe does Ledger's generic psycho even begin to capture who and what Joker is.

The right honorable gentleman upthread is right. If Ledger hadn't died and Americans didn't have such an unhealthy fetish for mythologizing drugged out losers who die young, nobody would remember that stupid portrayal.


Ledger dying I think was what made that portrayal sacrosanct for about a year or so. Personally, I liked Batman Begins better than Dark Knight, and I hate origin story movies. It was annoying for that year where Dark Knight was treated as the best Batman thing EVER done; even though the Joker's plot was probably the lamest I'd ever seen.

I'll still put him in second place for live action Jokers after Cesar Romero; at least they tried to do something different that wasn't terrible. He still had some pretty good, quotable scenes.
 
2013-05-12 10:58:50 PM  

Mugato: buckeyebrain: No love for Dickless?

[thefwoosh.com image 400x235]

Ghostbusters...the movie that made the guy from the Environmental Protection Agency with a valid complaint against three guys with unlicensed nuclear accelerators the bad guy. And to add insult to injury, he was accused of not having a dick.


Is this true?
 
2013-05-13 12:54:59 AM  
Sheleen Strawn
played by Lee Marvin?
 
2013-05-13 01:38:39 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mugato: buckeyebrain: No love for Dickless?

[thefwoosh.com image 400x235]

Ghostbusters...the movie that made the guy from the Environmental Protection Agency with a valid complaint against three guys with unlicensed nuclear accelerators the bad guy. And to add insult to injury, he was accused of not having a dick.

Is this true?


Yes, it's true. This man has no dick.
 
2013-05-13 03:39:14 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: I dunno, Fano. We're usually on the same page, but this time...

Fano: Ledger's Joker was perfect for the Nolanverse.

In as much as I think the Nolanverse has as much to do with Batman as Die Hard, I don't even think Ledger's portrayal fit that universe. Joker isn't a nihilist and nihilism isn't something Batman generally deals with. Joker doesn't have agendas, he has punchlines. And Joker doesn't set up weighted dilemmas - that's Two Face (which makes that plotline all the more out of place in that movie).

Joker is a sadist and a delusional psychopath. He's dangerous to everyone around him and he's obsessed with Batman. Joker does what he does because he thinks it's funny - he doesn't care about the outcome beyond his joke being ruined and it certainly doesn't go to further some grander scheme. He doesn't think that far ahead. He can't. Joker is so crazy, not even *HE* knows what he's going to do. He's equally likely to kiss you gently on the lips as eat your face off.

Hamill's Joker is the Joker to end all Jokers - you're damned right about that. After that, I give equal props to Caeser and Jack. Caeser's captures the 'Clown Prince of Crime" part, where he's actually funny, enjoys a good laugh and is actually a thief and not just a murderer. And Jack's focuses on Joke's sadistic side, and how mean-spirited his sense of humor is.

None of that was evident in Ledger's portrayal.


Yeah but the comics version of the Joker is an incredibly lame villain. The entire concept of him is so campy it could only come from a comic book. The Nolan version, on the other hand, is a scary motherfarker because he seems like something that could actually exist. He's the kind of foe you need a Batman to fight. The cops can handle a sociopathic thief who wears a clown costume. Nolan's version of the Joker is so dangerous because he's a master manipulator, has no concept of empathy or remorse, and is both brilliant and completely unpredictable--and has no discernible goals other than gleefully watching people destroy each other. He's chaos incarnate.

It may not be true to the original idea of the character, but it's a vast improvement.
 
2013-05-13 04:29:07 AM  
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2013-05-13 08:08:34 AM  

relaxitsjustme: [www.madmaxmovies.com image 400x460]

I'll shoot that list in the tire


In the pantheon of Mohawked villains, Magua will beat Wez every farkin' time:

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Don't get me wrong:  Wez is pretty bad-ass for a gay dude (NTTAWWT).  But it doesn't compare to cutting out a man's heart in order to *EAT* it, along with attempting to wipe out his children in order to wipe his seed off the face of the Earth.
 
2013-05-13 08:35:07 AM  
1) Nurse Ratchet is Hot

2) those of a certain age might find this the greatest villain

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2013-05-13 09:04:24 AM  

Cheron: 1) Nurse Ratchet is Hot


Yes, yes she is.

2) those of a certain age might find this the greatest villain

In line with #1, I find this villian's employer to be hot also:

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2013-05-13 05:26:24 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: Sheleen Strawn
played by Lee Marvin?


Creeped me the fark out with that metal nose. (If I am remembering it correctly)
 
2013-05-13 06:44:55 PM  
It rubs the lotion on its skin.
It does this whenever it's told.
It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.
Now it places the lotion in the basket.
 
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