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2013-05-12 02:56:15 AM
ldsingletary.xomba.com

"Oh really, doubtmitter?"
 
2013-05-12 02:58:19 AM
It's a frikkin car

/you need to turn it in and get on with your life
//what?
 
2013-05-12 03:03:25 AM
As soon as we met I fell for her warmth and her sweet gentle smile. It wasn't just the sex - which was amazing - as that she was so careful to make sure I had a good time.

Um, that just means she's really good at her job. Seriously, I think men need to be taken aside when they're 13 and explained the phenomenon that women who make a living in professions that depend highly on tips or other undefined income will become amazingly adept at making a man feel special. How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?

I took her to dinner one day and gave her a card with a poem I wrote just for her. I'm not much of a poet but I put my whole heart in those verses and rhymes.

I can almost picture the awkward silence that would've followed that moment.
 
2013-05-12 03:33:57 AM

miss diminutive: . How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?


None, because the hormones will fire anyway and the men will still be stupid.

We tell women all the time in every walk of life "Men only want sex." Sometimes that's not true, but 90% of male female conflict is women underestimating the male libido and the remaining 10% is them knowing exactly what's going on and exploiting it. Women still don't listen and wind up making the same mistakes over and over and over.

History repeats in a 100 year loop because that's about how long people live.
 
2013-05-12 04:56:02 AM
I'm going to write her a poem.

Biatches love poems.
 
2013-05-12 05:00:26 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
/Now with image
 
2013-05-12 05:01:45 AM

miss diminutive: I took her to dinner one day


 . . . that's the first time outside of a movie that I've heard of someone taking a prostitute out to dinner.  I'm pretty sure TFA is bad fiction.
 
2013-05-12 05:05:00 AM
DNRTFA

Is this actually her?

img.thesun.co.uk

If so, I only have one thing to say.

Her dress was a deep burgundy, the color of a fine wine ...
 
2013-05-12 05:07:15 AM

lordargent: DNRTFA

Is this actually her?


No - it's posed to "illustrate" the situation.
 
2013-05-12 05:10:33 AM
I think the guy should be asking his wife... "What is wrong with you woman?!"
 
2013-05-12 05:10:45 AM

HotWingAgenda: miss diminutive: I took her to dinner one day

 . . . that's the first time outside of a movie that I've heard of someone taking a prostitute out to dinner.


Well, I'm sure it'll happen quite a few times today, being mother's day and all.

/i keeeeed
 
2013-05-12 05:16:54 AM
Yeah marriage is great...most times i want to run away from my life and find a hippy chick in a sundress that refuses to wear underwear.
 
2013-05-12 05:29:53 AM

miss diminutive: HotWingAgenda: miss diminutive: I took her to dinner one day

 . . . that's the first time outside of a movie that I've heard of someone taking a prostitute out to dinner.

Well, I'm sure it'll happen quite a few times today, being mother's day and all.

/i keeeeed


ohyou.jpg
/LoL : )
 
2013-05-12 05:36:31 AM
I fell in love with a hooker, she laughed in my face, so seriously I took her, I was a disgrace....
 
2013-05-12 05:45:45 AM
i played guitar for a hooker and she left before i got to fark her
 
2013-05-12 05:58:40 AM
my leaflet, "you are a pathetic excuse for a human being", might just help you out.
 
2013-05-12 06:39:31 AM
thats why you never read a poem to a hooker before you haver her chained up.  You NEVER know how she'll react.
 
2013-05-12 07:06:09 AM
Thats why Amanda Berry escaped. It was all good till Ariel wrote her a poem.  We all know what happened next.  A man cant be too cautious when it comes to poetry.
 
2013-05-12 07:16:47 AM

miss diminutive: Um, that just means she's really good at her job. Seriously, I think men need to be taken aside when they're 13 and explained the phenomenon that women who make a living in professions that depend highly on tips or other undefined income will become amazingly adept at making a man feel special. How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?


Not just women in these professions. It's ALWAYS about the money. ALWAYS.
 
2013-05-12 07:20:18 AM
I forget how it goes: women who cheat do so because hubby's inadequate/men who cheat are total whores, or men who cheat are driven to it by shrewish wives/women who cheat are total whores...?
 
2013-05-12 07:22:27 AM
No doubt there are more escorts with the same name to easy his pain during divorce.
 
2013-05-12 07:25:13 AM
Also, what exactly is the difference between an escort and a prostitute? Or is one simply a subset of the other...
 
2013-05-12 07:29:05 AM

miss diminutive: Also, what exactly is the difference between an escort and a prostitute? Or is one simply a subset of the other...


I think escorts are studying to be lawyers, while prostitutes are just in need of a good lawyer.
 
2013-05-12 07:29:45 AM
How does this crap get greenlit?
 
2013-05-12 07:31:11 AM
it's never a good sign when you're not a rapist
 
2013-05-12 07:31:40 AM
How do they consider themselves to be men when they spend most of their lives raised as pigs?
 
2013-05-12 07:32:22 AM

doglover: miss diminutive: . How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?

None, because the hormones will fire anyway and the men will still be stupid.

We tell women all the time in every walk of life "Men only want sex." Sometimes that's not true, but 90% of male female conflict is women underestimating the male libido and the remaining 10% is them knowing exactly what's going on and exploiting it. Women still don't listen and wind up making the same mistakes over and over and over.

History repeats in a 100 year loop because that's about how long people live.


Both sexes also need to learn the difference between an exchange (all healthy relationships contain some exchanges) and a transaction, and how to be honest about which one is happening at any given time. There would be a lot less drama and bitterness.

Hell, that goes for just about all relationships, not just the ones involving naked time.
 
2013-05-12 07:34:14 AM

balisane: Both sexes also need to learn the difference between an exchange (all healthy relationships contain some exchanges) and a transaction, and how to be honest about which one is happening at any given time. There would be a lot less drama and bitterness.


I'm not familiar with how you're using those terms. Could you explain please?

/long and draining day, so not very clued right now
 
2013-05-12 07:43:29 AM

miss diminutive: As soon as we met I fell for her warmth and her sweet gentle smile. It wasn't just the sex - which was amazing - as that she was so careful to make sure I had a good time.

Um, that just means she's really good at her job. Seriously, I think men need to be taken aside when they're 13 and explained the phenomenon that women who make a living in professions that depend highly on tips or other undefined income will become amazingly adept at making a man feel special. How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?

I took her to dinner one day and gave her a card with a poem I wrote just for her. I'm not much of a poet but I put my whole heart in those verses and rhymes.

I can almost picture the awkward silence that would've followed that moment.


a growing boy needs to be taught that and a whole lot more. meanwhile there are families in which generations of children have no instruction or guidance in human sexuality or birth control. there are too many reasons for this neglect: thinking it's the education systems responsibility, using religion as an excuse, inhibited immature parents, parents/guardians that simply don't give a damn to do their job etcetera.

the wealthy powerful assclowns of politics that create an ever growing stack of laws and statutes with which to control us could care less if the children of the great unwashed are properly raised and informed. the power structure of the religions seem primarily concerned with mind and wallet control through inhibition and guilt. the schools are for teaching their curriculum of a well rounded knowledge base and are not a substitute for parental responsibilities.

the sooner the masses are enlightened to the plethora of knowledge viewed as commonplace by the educated the sooner mankind will begin to progress at an acceptable pace. we are clever enough to be able to provide instruction to the ignorant, to the young, to the next upcoming generation - as we should. yet the power of the politician and the pulpit rarely benefits those who pay the bill and are under their thumb. we need to demand and receive proper guidance on a country wide scale from these supposed leaders or crush them from existence as they have proven ineffective and detrimental to the good of mankind.
 
2013-05-12 07:50:24 AM
www.roxcalibur.com
 
2013-05-12 07:57:22 AM

Shedim: balisane: Both sexes also need to learn the difference between an exchange (all healthy relationships contain some exchanges) and a transaction, and how to be honest about which one is happening at any given time. There would be a lot less drama and bitterness.

I'm not familiar with how you're using those terms. Could you explain please?

/long and draining day, so not very clued right now


I'm not really using them in an empirically defined way, to be honest, but one borne out by reason and experience. Here, i'll try, and maybe we'll have to clarify:


An exchange of actions ultimately creates an emotional balance in a relationship, either right away or over time. You do the laundry this week; that makes me feel like you care about the household, and I feel better. I'll pick up the kid/milk/chore even though that's usually your job, and free up some of your time. One partner gives oral and in exchange gets a happier, more relaxed person to spend the weekend with. Yadda, yadda.


A transaction is a set value for a set outcome, whether one or both values are monetary or emotional. I pay an escort [x] dollars, she makes me feel like the center of her attention for the evening, sex included or no. I give a blowjob -only- if my partner does the laundry/buys a necklace/etc. A man who buys dinners and is polite with the expectation of being repaid in sex.


If people had a better idea of what they were getting into from the start, there would be fewer crossed wires. I don't see anything wrong with either, as long as all parties are honest about what they're seeking and accepting of the fact that others may not be seeking the same.
 
2013-05-12 08:02:36 AM
Jesus, this guy sounds worse than me when it comes to women.

Dude, she's a prostitute.  Did you even try OKCUpid or POF?  Seriously.

/first therapist appt. this week. yay.
 
2013-05-12 08:12:59 AM
Hooker Poetry; the 4th worst in the universe after:

3) Vogon Poetry
2) Azgoths of Kria
1) Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Essex, England
 
2013-05-12 08:14:31 AM
Oh freddled gruntbuggly/thy micturations are to me/As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.Groop I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes. And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"
 
2013-05-12 08:15:57 AM
i1162.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-12 08:20:08 AM

balisane: If people had a better idea of what they were getting into from the start, there would be fewer crossed wires.


I don't disagree with you here. However, don't you think that that's part of the whole thrill? Not knowing exactly what's going to happen, how the other person will react and/or reciprocate?
 
2013-05-12 08:26:49 AM

miss diminutive: Um, that just means she's really good at her job. Seriously, I think men need to be taken aside when they're 13 and explained the phenomenon that women who make a living in professions that depend highly on tips or other undefined income will become amazingly adept at making a man feel special. How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?


A lot of shy guys are manipulated by women, to get favours. At least with whores, it's an honest relationship. You pay £50, you get blown. Some girl that flirts with you to get her PC fixed is going to waste half a day of your life.

That's why, if I had a son, I would take him out to a brothel on his 18th birthday, so he didn't then marry some unsuitable girl just to get his oats, but could instead wait until he met someone he really wanted to marry.

It's why feminists hate whoring. Not because they care about women, but because it takes away their control.
 
2013-05-12 08:32:47 AM

ox45tallboy: balisane: If people had a better idea of what they were getting into from the start, there would be fewer crossed wires.

I don't disagree with you here. However, don't you think that that's part of the whole thrill? Not knowing exactly what's going to happen, how the other person will react and/or reciprocate?


Yes, but not if your basic goals are radically different. If you're looking for a marriage, and I'm looking for a casual sex partner, it might be fun for a short while, but we're both going to end up frustrated or having a very awkward conversation eventually. If you want to transact for attention on an evening-by-evening basis when we both have time in our schedules, and I want more emotional commitment than that, figuring that out is not very intriguing or exciting.
 
2013-05-12 08:35:51 AM

balisane: Shedim: 
An exchange of actions ultimately creates an emotional balance in a relationship, either right away or over time.
A transaction is a set value for a set outcome, whether one or both values are monetary or emotional.


So a transaction is an intention, and an exchange is an effect.
 
2013-05-12 08:36:23 AM
Writing love letters to an escort is crossing the professional boundaries. It's considered stalking behaviour.
 
2013-05-12 08:36:47 AM

farkeruk: miss diminutive: Um, that just means she's really good at her job. Seriously, I think men need to be taken aside when they're 13 and explained the phenomenon that women who make a living in professions that depend highly on tips or other undefined income will become amazingly adept at making a man feel special. How much potential heartache could be averted if this were simply common knowledge?

A lot of shy guys are manipulated by women, to get favours. At least with whores, it's an honest relationship. You pay £50, you get blown. Some girl that flirts with you to get her PC fixed is going to waste half a day of your life.

That's why, if I had a son, I would take him out to a brothel on his 18th birthday, so he didn't then marry some unsuitable girl just to get his oats, but could instead wait until he met someone he really wanted to marry.

It's why feminists hate whoring. Not because they care about women, but because it takes away their control.



I know you're prolly bored and trolling, but if not, I can see you have a seriously unhealthy view of women. please don't do what you're suggesting if you want your kid to be better than you.
 
2013-05-12 08:47:05 AM

wendolynne: balisane: Shedim: 
An exchange of actions ultimately creates an emotional balance in a relationship, either right away or over time.
A transaction is a set value for a set outcome, whether one or both values are monetary or emotional.

So a transaction is an intention, and an exchange is an effect.


Something like that. You can make an exchange with some intent, hoping for/somewhat expecting a given effect, but being okay with it when it doesn't happen, or you get something else, or maybe just a thanks. A transaction always has intent and always expects a given outcome.
 
2013-05-12 08:47:12 AM
Oh dear, we're going down the discussion path of "Men only want sex from women, women only want money from men, they just manipulate each other to get those things by pretending love exists and fooling the other person into thinking they are special and wanted." Then there are sage knowing nods and pats on the back for being truly brave enough to recognise how truly horrid and nasty everyone is deep down inside.

Next up, children and pets only pretend to love their parents/owners in order to receive nourishment and attention because they are little parasites and they all will eat your corpse before it cools if you fail in your duty.
 
2013-05-12 09:04:34 AM

FunkOut: "Men only want sex from women, women only want money from men, they just manipulate each other to get those things by pretending love exists and fooling the other person into thinking they are special and wanted."


Do you have the photos of when George Michael was arrested? I could be mistaken, but he was not looking for a woman or even a dude that looked like a lady . . .
 
2013-05-12 09:14:17 AM

Slappy McLongstockings: FunkOut: "Men only want sex from women, women only want money from men, they just manipulate each other to get those things by pretending love exists and fooling the other person into thinking they are special and wanted."

Do you have the photos of when George Michael was arrested? I could be mistaken, but he was not looking for a woman or even a dude that looked like a lady . . .


Just rehashing what gets said a jillion times by the cynical all knowing brigade. There's women who are convinced all men are just unfeeling evil penis machines and men convinced all women are money thirsty vampires and that no one ever has true fluffy wuffy feelings for one another. This apparently doesn't include gay people, who live in a magical loving world of either naked glitter disco orgies or dog breeder Subaru conventions.
 
2013-05-12 09:33:52 AM
Doesn't this guy know that her job is to assassinate his sexual identity?
~Thanks Louis
 
2013-05-12 10:07:11 AM
Rule #1 for men paying for escort:
They are there for the money, not friendship, not relationship, MONEY
Treat them as you would a friend, but get down to the business end ASAP.
AFTER business is done, feel free to offer her food, drink, conversation, etc., but more times than not they will talk briefly as they get dressed, kiss you on the cheek, and get the hell out.

Think of it as a food server. Be pleasant, order your food, eat your food, tip, pay your tab and do not occupy her station any longer than needed. They will be more than happy to serve you next time provided you are not a cheap-ass.
 
2013-05-12 10:23:34 AM

99.998er: Rule #1 for men paying for escort:
They are there for the money, not friendship, not relationship, MONEY
Treat them as you would a friend, but get down to the business end ASAP.
AFTER business is done, feel free to offer her food, drink, conversation, etc., but more times than not they will talk briefly as they get dressed, kiss you on the cheek, and get the hell out.

Think of it as a food server. Be pleasant, order your food, eat your food, tip, pay your tab and do not occupy her station any longer than needed. They will be more than happy to serve you next time provided you are not a cheap-ass.


or just MASTURBATE
 
2013-05-12 10:28:11 AM

miss diminutive: Also, what exactly is the difference between an escort and a prostitute? Or is one simply a subset of the other...


Um, there's not much difference in the technical sense (sex for money) but shiat you can say that's what I do too, and I don't use either of those titles because they don't fit what I do. Sex worker is the 'PC' title that many of us use. Many Dommes do not like to do it (Dominatrix) because it implies a different type of situation instead of the D/s power structure that is the main part.

Escorts typically advertise, or are found via word of mouth. Clients are screened through a variety of methods, this varies on the escort. Some craigslist 'escorts' who do not do this as their primary profession (but should be called escorts because they are pros and not novices just making a buck now and then) do not screen properly if at all. With an escort you'll get to see photos which should be of her (some lie, which is ...just so beyond dumb. Like the client isn't going to notice?! But I've seen porn actresses and fetish models pics used on escort sites where I *know* its not them (because I *know* the person who's material they've stolen). Anyhoo, prices are laid out. Any financial negotiation takes place prior to the meet. Screening is typically either have another vouch for you (I've referred two clients to an escort friend and vouched for my clients) or having them verify your info (sometimes even employment). This is to protect the escort because the client knows WE know who you are, and it also helps prevent them from getting arrested. If it's someone's first time, additional negotiation usually takes place as discussion prior may have been limited. Or the client may not know what the pornstar experience is, what the GFE is, etc.

Prostitutes are sex workers who work on the streets, or with an agency. They have essentially a 'pimp'. They may have no ability to screen clients other than by gut instinct in the instant. Or they may be sent on assignment and not know a damn thing about the client until they walk in.  Now there are people who call themselves prostitutes but they're really more escort-y. Sex workers are pretty much universally anti 'pimp'. Dommes always are, we find them to be the scum of the farking earth. :D

Hope that helps. There's no black and white on these terms. I've seen women call themselves Dommes...and they are so not. It's laughable. Then within that there are pro Dommes (people who do Domination with clients for money) and lifestyle Dommes (people who do it for their personal enjoyment and may or may not charge for it). It's also possible of course to be both a pro and lifestyle Domme.

Escort is also a higher class term. I suspect this is why some sex workers like to use the word 'prostitute' because it tends to have a lower and more negative meaning overall. It's a way of owning the word or retaking it.

But there's also a lot of snobbery in sex work too, there are those in one group who'll look down their noses at the others. I don't do this, but it's far from uncommon. :\
 
2013-05-12 10:39:12 AM
Also I just want to point out than an emotional connection is far from uncommon. I have been paid by clients to simply watch television shows with them. However they should be looking for someone who does 'sensual' or GFE work. For many sex workers intimacy on that level crosses boundaries, and can even be dangerous. Jealousy at knowing we are with other clients is common (and something I've talked about with, with many many many clients). I care deeply about the clients I work closely with though, and I do a lot of sensual domination work. After care is also important, and helps them deal with those feelings that may arise. I also do not take advantage of their feelings, unless it's a client who specifically enjoys such.

An example from my inbox this morning:

----------
I hope you will keep letting me pay for responses
[I charge him for email responses], it really makes me feel lesser, even when you are nice I feel like it's only for money. Erodes my arrogance, gives my negative self image a boost. Thanks! -------------

There's everything under the sun out there, and you'd be amazed at the variety and wonder of it all. ;)
 
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