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(Chicago Sun-Times)   A cop heard a call come in about a burning apartment, and since he was a block away he ran in and rescued seven residents while the building crumbled around him   (suntimes.com) divider line 93
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2013-05-12 06:44:46 AM  
What's really impressive about this is that the guy didn't even had time to go to a phone booth to switch to his real identity.
 
2013-05-12 06:46:18 AM  

bindlestiff2600: on a semi serious note - i hope he doesn't lose his job for violating safety procedures and putting himself at unnecessary risk.

(yes some bad attitude in there - but really, i hope he is rewarded and not harmed by this )


I'm a bit more jaded than you.  I only hope that he doesn't end up being the arsonist.
 
2013-05-12 07:08:34 AM  

bindlestiff2600: on a semi serious note - i hope he doesn't lose his job for violating safety procedures and putting himself at unnecessary risk.

(yes some bad attitude in there - but really, i hope he is rewarded and not harmed by this )


I was thinking something similar. He had no SCBA or PPE, no extinguishing agent, no entry or extrication tools, no backup, and no one outside knew he was in there.

Not to mention he didn't have a warrant.
 
2013-05-12 07:16:57 AM  

Bucky Katt: so no roast pork?


Nice

/also, surprised this was in Chicago
//one of the few pigs out there
///he deserves his 15 minutes
 
2013-05-12 07:18:04 AM  
Ogden District Officer Edward Leighton... knocked in the door and found a mother helping her 8-year-old son with his homework. Leighton said Zabrina Washington, 33, told him she'd seen smoke but didn't realize the fire was coming from her building.

"What? There's a fire?", he said.

.
/no point in planting that blow now
//(i keed)
 
2013-05-12 07:19:32 AM  

Notabunny: Maybe. I'm one of the libbiest libtards who ever libbed, and I'm pro-cop.


There's really no contradiction in being a liberal and being pro-cop. The pro-big-government end of the spectrum usually favors government workers.
 
2013-05-12 07:24:15 AM  

justoneznot: There's really no contradiction in being a liberal and being pro-cop. The pro-big-government end of the spectrum usually favors government workers.


I think marijuana muddies the waters for a lot of people
 
2013-05-12 07:59:25 AM  
Meanwhile 5 other cops in the neighborhood stood around and said "Not my job."

(It WOULD be true...)
 
2013-05-12 08:17:12 AM  

gerbilpox: Not to mention he didn't have a warrant.


You do know there are certain exception to needing a warrant to enter premises.  A burning house is basically a textbook case of the "emergency" exception.
 
2013-05-12 08:29:51 AM  
I am going to poke at the mom in this story.  Why would you not leave the house when it is on fire?  'Oh, it just smoke.  We continue with life as if the smoke can't be a sign of fire.'  Everytime I smell smoke I atleast check it out.  Especially when you can tell the difference between leaves burning or man made materials.  Bugged a neighbor once because we smelled burning plastic coming from her house.  Turned out it was intentional burning, but I would've felt terrible if we had done nothing and lost our neighbor.

/although the kid may have had one of those teachers that don't take a house burning down as an excuse for late homework
 
2013-05-12 08:33:27 AM  
Thumbs up, bro. And I agree with you. I did fire suppression for 7 years as a volunteer. I won't lie when I say I was terrified each and every time I had to go in and make an interior attack. Not only because of the conditions, but because without glasses I looked like Velma from Scooby Doo, minus the pot.

justoneznot: Notabunny: Maybe. I'm one of the libbiest libtards who ever libbed, and I'm pro-cop.

There's really no contradiction in being a liberal and being pro-cop. The pro-big-government end of the spectrum usually favors government workers.


You can be pro-cop and decry and outright hate the people who abuse their authority and their badge. This is something that many "FARK Liberals" and "FARK Libertarians" seem unable to wrap their heads around. And it's something that many "FARK Republicans" can't understand when you don't suck cop dick 24/7. (When their guy is in office. When their
 
2013-05-12 08:45:32 AM  

Silverstaff: gerbilpox: Not to mention he didn't have a warrant.

You do know there are certain exception to needing a warrant to enter premises.  A burning house is basically a textbook case of the "emergency" exception.


Yeah, I was joking. It's "exigent circumstance," at least in regard to whether found evidence would be admissible. I don't know if it's something different to simply enter for a rescue, IANAL


/ Or is it I♥ANAL?
 
2013-05-12 09:24:24 AM  
I wish we would stop turning ever thread involving police into a cop hate debate thread.

*gets on knees and dramatically reaches for the sky*

Must we make everything so black and white?! Can we not accept that there are both paragons and corrupt people employed in every profession?! That there is good and bad in everyone?!

*gets back up*

And before anyone says it,

welcometofark.jpg
 
2013-05-12 09:31:45 AM  

Ronin_S: Must we make everything so black and white?! Can we not accept that there are both paragons and corrupt people employed in every profession?! That there is good and bad in everyone?!


Part of it on both sides is hero worship. We're taught by the media, our parents, and our schools that, from a very early age, cops and firemen and nurses and doctors are heroic people who we expect to be infallible and utterly morally upright in their decision making processes. This is manifest on both sides - either cops can do no wrong, or cops are all corrupt, murdering sociopaths. People don't see them as human beings and individuals with their own motivations, personality, and moral upbringings.

So instead of using critical thought, it's easier to stereotype (or be inflammatory) by promoting the belief that it is EITHER one or the other, and that anyone who says differently is X.
 
2013-05-12 09:34:38 AM  
Wow, look at all the nitter natter about cops.

Anyway, he goes to the second floor and finds a woman who said she didn't really pay attention to where the smoke was coming from and didn't know the building was on fire...a 33 year old woman with 6 kids, 5 dogs, and a cat.

I'd be surprised if she managed to notice a simulatanous earthquake, tornado, and flood.
 
2013-05-12 09:36:42 AM  
Glad to hear he was able to avoid tripping over his massive steel balls while rescuing those folks.

/Yes, most cops are assholes
//There are a few who care
///Here's to you, Mr. Can't Breathe My Ass Is On Fire Cop-Fire Rescue Guy!
 
2013-05-12 09:58:53 AM  
This guy exemplifies (by contrast) one of my complaints about society. Most people pass the buck to anyone else. People go shopping and pass corrals full of shopping carts. I tried to report a piece of faulty equipment at my gym and I got "Oh, that's facilities responsibility" our of the staff.

This man had authority, had a sense of duty, and applied himself because the buck stopped at him.

www.greenbookblog.org
 
2013-05-12 10:13:04 AM  
Hero

no slight this time, a good man a heroic act and I'm happy that all the people he helped escaped
 
2013-05-12 10:30:05 AM  

Ronin_S: I wish we would stop turning ever thread involving police into a cop hate debate thread.

*gets on knees and dramatically reaches for the sky*

Must we make everything so black and white?! Can we not accept that there are both paragons and corrupt people employed in every profession?! That there is good and bad in everyone?!

*gets back up*

And before anyone says it,

welcometofark.jpg


The corrupt dude working at FoodMax will over charge me and pocket the difference.
The corrupt cop can kill me and get away with it.

See the difference?
 
2013-05-12 10:39:47 AM  

Psycoholic_Slag: The corrupt dude working at FoodMax will over charge me and pocket the difference.
The corrupt cop can kill me and get away with it.

See the difference?


So both are bad and should be punished.

That automatically means that everyone in a specific profession is a thief or a murderer.

ecimages.kobobooks.com

Just like all Islamics are terrorists, all Christians are abortion clinic bombers, all Republicans are racist klansmen, etc....
 
2013-05-12 10:58:48 AM  

Flumple: It's the police state americans seem to be welcoming with open arms that's the problem more so police in themselves. Policing style in Western Australia is so different then what I saw in NYC.


Doesn't Australia have super strict gun laws?

How much of a police state is America when I can go into Wal-Mart and pick up a rifle along with a carton of milk and a loaf of bread?

Can you do that in Australia?
 
2013-05-12 11:05:50 AM  

mekki: Flumple: It's the police state americans seem to be welcoming with open arms that's the problem more so police in themselves. Policing style in Western Australia is so different then what I saw in NYC.

Doesn't Australia have super strict gun laws?

How much of a police state is America when I can go into Wal-Mart and pick up a rifle along with a carton of milk and a loaf of bread?

Can you do that in Australia?


www.achievemore.com.au

Hey mates. What are those things on the right hips of those Aussie cops?

It's almost as if the police there are armed for some reason. FASCISM!
 
2013-05-12 11:08:08 AM  

mekki: Flumple: It's the police state americans seem to be welcoming with open arms that's the problem more so police in themselves. Policing style in Western Australia is so different then what I saw in NYC.

Doesn't Australia have super strict gun laws?

How much of a police state is America when I can go into Wal-Mart and pick up a rifle along with a carton of milk and a loaf of bread?

Can you do that in Australia?


Nope, to Walmart too thankfully ;) that said we don't get shot by army surplus totting police on no knock warrants either, so there's that.
 
2013-05-12 11:17:55 AM  

Flumple: Nope, to Walmart too thankfully ;) that said we don't get shot by army surplus totting police on no knock warrants either, so there's that.


You must not pay too much attention to the news, then.


/apologies for the daily fail link.
 
2013-05-12 11:28:09 AM  

hardinparamedic: Flumple: Nope, to Walmart too thankfully ;) that said we don't get shot by army surplus totting police on no knock warrants either, so there's that.

You must not pay too much attention to the news, then.


/apologies for the daily fail link.


I'm just about to go to sleep so forgive me for being slow.. But isn't that link to a story about a no knock wrongful shooting by police in America... And therefore supports my statement?
 
2013-05-12 11:32:22 AM  

Flumple: mekki: Flumple: It's the police state americans seem to be welcoming with open arms that's the problem more so police in themselves. Policing style in Western Australia is so different then what I saw in NYC.

Doesn't Australia have super strict gun laws?

How much of a police state is America when I can go into Wal-Mart and pick up a rifle along with a carton of milk and a loaf of bread?

Can you do that in Australia?

Nope, to Walmart too thankfully ;) that said we don't get shot by army surplus totting police on no knock warrants either, so there's that.


Army surplus toting? Have you seen our bad guys? They're not exactly the sling shot carrying kind. They are the high powered rifle with armor piercing bullets carrying along with IEDs and a cart full of grenades kind. What do you suggest the cops carry? A strongly worded letter?
 
2013-05-12 11:37:21 AM  

mekki: Flumple: mekki: Flumple: It's the police state americans seem to be welcoming with open arms that's the problem more so police in themselves. Policing style in Western Australia is so different then what I saw in NYC.

Doesn't Australia have super strict gun laws?

How much of a police state is America when I can go into Wal-Mart and pick up a rifle along with a carton of milk and a loaf of bread?

Can you do that in Australia?

Nope, to Walmart too thankfully ;) that said we don't get shot by army surplus totting police on no knock warrants either, so there's that.

Army surplus toting? Have you seen our bad guys? They're not exactly the sling shot carrying kind. They are the high powered rifle with armor piercing bullets carrying along with IEDs and a cart full of grenades kind. What do you suggest the cops carry? A strongly worded letter?


Well, I guess that's another argument for gun control. Then police can be trained in useful skills instead of pew pew pew!
 
2013-05-12 11:45:27 AM  

Flumple: I'm just about to go to sleep so forgive me for being slow.. But isn't that link to a story about a no knock wrongful shooting by police in America... And therefore supports my statement?


Sorry. Maybe these are more interesting to Aussies.

Victoria Police shoot 15 year old and then try to have it declared a suicide.

Mentally ill woman shot by police after calling them because she was being attacked.
 
2013-05-12 11:54:21 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

/Oblig Foo
 
2013-05-12 12:02:55 PM  
Ah, good old Victoria, armpit of Australia. Still, prefer that then the Yes. Sir. No. Sir how high do you want me to jump sir relationship between civilians and police I saw in NYC.
Hell, the police in Japan are iiintense, but with the respect flowing both ways.authority doesn't have to be a boot your throat and one hand in federal government via the armies pocket and one hand in the private prison industries pocket.... Police can do positive things when they aren't inside a toxic system.
 
2013-05-12 12:36:35 PM  
Another imperialist pig breaking into a home without a warrant.

FOURTH AMENDMENT 4EVA
 
2013-05-12 12:37:35 PM  

Flumple: Ah, good old Victoria, armpit of Australia. Still, prefer that then the Yes. Sir. No. Sir how high do you want me to jump sir relationship between civilians and police I saw in NYC.
Hell, the police in Japan are iiintense, but with the respect flowing both ways.authority doesn't have to be a boot your throat and one hand in federal government via the armies pocket and one hand in the private prison industries pocket.... Police can do positive things when they aren't inside a toxic system.


Well, as long as you have the toxic nationalism and the "It's not bad when we do it" attitude, bonus points for the "police never do positive things" comment.

10/10 with the comment about Japanese police, too.

The "private prison industry" controls less than 10% of prisons across the United States, as well. Hardly the nefarious conspiracy you suggest.

It's almost as if you're taking stereotypes and talking about them like you know something about a country you're not even in, just to get a rise out of people.
 
2013-05-12 12:59:02 PM  

Flumple: mekki: Flumple: mekki: Flumple: It's the police state americans seem to be welcoming with open arms that's the problem more so police in themselves. Policing style in Western Australia is so different then what I saw in NYC.

Doesn't Australia have super strict gun laws?

How much of a police state is America when I can go into Wal-Mart and pick up a rifle along with a carton of milk and a loaf of bread?

Can you do that in Australia?

Nope, to Walmart too thankfully ;) that said we don't get shot by army surplus totting police on no knock warrants either, so there's that.

Army surplus toting? Have you seen our bad guys? They're not exactly the sling shot carrying kind. They are the high powered rifle with armor piercing bullets carrying along with IEDs and a cart full of grenades kind. What do you suggest the cops carry? A strongly worded letter?

Well, I guess that's another argument for gun control. Then police can be trained in useful skills instead of pew pew pew!


Wait, you are going on about the police state and the over reaching arm of the government with one breath and going on about gun control with the next. Are you that not self-aware?
 
2013-05-12 02:03:13 PM  

shanrick: If you think cops are pigs, next time you need help, try calling a hippie.


To be fair, when you need help, 99% of the time, you're not gonna get it for hours.

/had my house burglarized a year ago, cops took 4 hours to stop by... I could see seven or eight of them a block away running a speed trap... apparently that was more important.
 
2013-05-12 02:30:09 PM  
He'll be fired. Because current police practice is to establish a perimeter and wait for federal agents to arrive; deny anything's wrong; allow the first to destroy everything and then pronounce the evidence implicates the Tea Party.
 
2013-05-12 02:38:09 PM  
grouchoreviews.com
It was bowling night.
 
2013-05-12 02:40:46 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: He'll be fired. Because current police practice is to establish a perimeter and wait for federal agents to arrive; deny anything's wrong; allow the first to destroy everything and then pronounce the evidence implicates the Tea Party.


You poor, poor persecuted soul. The Jews in Nazi Germany had nothing compared to your persecution in the United States of Socialst Kenyan Usurpers.
 
2013-05-12 03:04:32 PM  

hardinparamedic: Ronin_S: Must we make everything so black and white?! Can we not accept that there are both paragons and corrupt people employed in every profession?! That there is good and bad in everyone?!

Part of it on both sides is hero worship. We're taught by the media, our parents, and our schools that, from a very early age, cops and firemen and nurses and doctors are heroic people who we expect to be infallible and utterly morally upright in their decision making processes.


I think being 'morally upright' is expected of ALL people, not just cops and firemen and nurses and doctors.

This is manifest on both sides - either cops can do no wrong, or cops are all corrupt, murdering sociopaths

I see plenty of 'cops can do no wrong' people, but I've never seen anyone say "cops are all corrupt, murdering sociopaths". On the other hand it is true that SOME cops are "corrupt, murdering sociopaths" (um... let's just say "bad cops", okay?), and some cops are NOT 'bad cops'. The problem is, all the 'not-bad cops' who don't do anything about the 'bad cops' are complicit.

Basically, there are some bad cops, a few really good cops, and the vast majority that aren't 'bad' by themselves, but don't do anything about the bad cops. Which makes them complicit with the bad cops, and thus 'bad' themselves. But they aren't "corrupt, murdering sociopaths".

People don't see them as human beings and individuals with their own motivations, personality, and moral upbringings.

Once they put on that uniform, they are supposed to leave personal baggage behind.
 
2013-05-12 03:54:16 PM  
I'm just hoping this isn't updated in a week with new information that the cop started the fire... seems to be a LOT of THAT type of thing nowadays (civil servant wishing they could be heroes, then ultimately deciding to "create" a situation where they "become" the hero).

Just playing devil's advocate-
 
2013-05-12 04:07:10 PM  

shanrick: If you think cops are pigs, next time you need help, try calling a hippie.


+eleventy
 
2013-05-12 08:33:49 PM  

hardinparamedic: Flumple: Ah, good old Victoria, armpit of Australia. Still, prefer that then the Yes. Sir. No. Sir how high do you want me to jump sir relationship between civilians and police I saw in NYC.
Hell, the police in Japan are iiintense, but with the respect flowing both ways.authority doesn't have to be a boot your throat and one hand in federal government via the armies pocket and one hand in the private prison industries pocket.... Police can do positive things when they aren't inside a toxic system.

Well, as long as you have the toxic nationalism and the "It's not bad when we do it" attitude, bonus points for the "police never do positive things" comment.

10/10 with the comment about Japanese police, too.

The "private prison industry" controls less than 10% of prisons across the United States, as well. Hardly the nefarious conspiracy you suggest.

It's almost as if you're taking stereotypes and talking about them like you know something about a country you're not even in, just to get a rise out of people.


USA has the highest rate of incarceration in the industrialised world. Clearly that's a negative thing, americans are not more inherently criminal... Oh and before you ou say "but but it's easy for homogeneous countries" that's rubbish Australia and many other countries are multicultural too and clearly get by just fine without sending excessive amounts of its population to prison. Interesting how you flipped police CAN do positive things in your head to that they CANT.

Police here are still a service, not a force, I've been impressed the couple of times I've interacted with them.

You lose community policing and mutual respect as soon as you start arming police with surplus military gear and prosecute a endless drug war against your own people
 
2013-05-13 12:35:20 AM  

hardinparamedic: Clemkadidlefark: He'll be fired. Because current police practice is to establish a perimeter and wait for federal agents to arrive; deny anything's wrong; allow the first to destroy everything and then pronounce the evidence implicates the Tea Party.

You poor, poor persecuted soul. The Jews in Nazi Germany had nothing compared to your persecution in the United States of Socialst Kenyan Usurpers.


fdnyretiree.com

:-)
 
2013-05-13 09:19:17 AM  
I've made this comment multiple times here, and as of now no one has given it any notice.  But it's damned relevant.

1- Had one friend who was a cop for 15 years.  He never did any of this stupid shiat, was generally laid back.

2- Had on cousin who was a cop in a larger city.    For years, every time the family got together for a holiday I had to listen to him brag about how they beat this one guy up, or someone tried to run and they put him in the hospital, or how one perp tried to kick out the window of the squad car (from inside)....so they dragged him out (still cuffed) and five officers nearly beat him to death.  Oh, and for a little icing on the cake - all the officers lied to IA when questioned about the incident.

So listen up....this was NOT a couple of isolated incidents.  It was RAMPANT throughout the department.  They beat the crap out of people on a regular basis, and what's more THEY ENJOYED IT.

I really try not to make snap judgements about people, but after listening to endless stories of "we beat the crap outta this one guy" I can't help but view people who have power over others with anything less than a cynical eye.
 
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