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(Yahoo)   In 2005, a man wanted to take his life. He climbed over the railing of the Golden Gate Bridge and was ready to take a fatal jump when he heard a voice calling out to him from above. Eight years later, he met that voice   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 108
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2013-05-12 01:47:58 AM
"Met" him? Says right there in the article that they were "reunited", suggesting that they had already met.
 
2013-05-12 01:51:34 AM

Fallout Boy: I must either be lucky or because of where I live but all my experiences with police officers have been great. They all had a "well let's go easy on him and let em off the hook" attitude.

/must be a Canada thing
//last time I've heard of police brutality in Canada was when some dipshiat went trigger happy on the taser out west


Guess you didn't hear about the G20 in Toronto a while back. Or ever heard of the Surete du Quebec.
 
2013-05-12 01:55:41 AM

dickfreckle: When I was in college a guy jumped from the top of our dormitory, which was at appx. 20 stories IIRC. Aside from being horrified I remember wondering why someone would choose jumping as a method. This is America, and guns are easily available legally or not.

Like nearly anyone else I've contemplated what I would do in that situation. I always figured I'd wander into the woods or some other place that wouldn't horrify loved ones and leave a terrible mess. I've jumped from several airplanes and let me tell you - it's terrifying even with a parachute. Human brains aren't wired to fly, but knowing you'll survive (most likely) makes it fun. Knowing for a fact that I'm going to hit pavement or water that feels like pavement? Yikes.

Granted, no one but those who have tried and failed knows what really goes through the mind of someone intent upon shuffling from the mortal coil. When you're that desperate I imagine you don't really care as long as it 'works.'

Anyway, this is a cool story. Sometimes all you need in life is for someone to lend a caring voice.


Because, as a six-time attempter myself, once you've decided on a method, then that is the method you use. You weigh your options and pick and choose very carefully. The idea that someone is going through life and suddenly says "Well, f*ck it, guess I'll die now," grabs the nearest gun/razor/rope/bridge and does it, is foolishness. I mean, I suppose there are a few suicides like that; but there are not many of them.

The rest of us pick a method that seems like it will be 100% fatal and 100% immediate and painless (based on our experience and biases as to what constitutes "fatality", "immediacy" and "painlessness"), and after that it's a question of waiting till the time is right. But, as A. Alvarez says in his study "The Savage God," a person who has decided to jump off a bridge will never jump in front of a train. He may pass by convenient tracks a dozen times a day--but will wait till he can make the perfect leap from his chosen bridge.

If that makes no sense to others, well, it's because suicide as an act makes no sense to anyone else. And really, it's not supposed to, I guess.
 
2013-05-12 01:57:35 AM
Since when do cops care about black people?
 
2013-05-12 01:59:19 AM
Dusty rooms are dusty.
 
2013-05-12 02:03:16 AM

Mambo Bananapatch: "Met" him? Says right there in the article that they were "reunited", suggesting that they had already met.


They did.

On the bridge.

Before the guy would have jumped.
 
2013-05-12 02:08:28 AM

AGremlin: Apparently the Golden Gate bridge is the most popular place in the world to off yourself.


It has a very high success rate. Although one of my sisters knew a dude that jumped and lived.

If you jump off that bridge and live, you ain't supposed to die yet. Back to work.
 
2013-05-12 02:11:18 AM

HaveBeerWillTravel: But remember, all cops are dicks.


Many are. The CHPs have earned my respect though.
 
2013-05-12 02:13:01 AM
Guess they're nicer to bridge jumpers in San Fran than Seattle
 
2013-05-12 02:18:44 AM
Had a friend who got a bunch of bad news and he called none of his friends.


He jumped off the upper deck of the elevated expressway by the old Boston Garden.... I wish such a person as that CHP officer had been there, because I think of him every day.


And even taking into consideration all the bad news he got, I cannot figure out why he did it.
 
2013-05-12 02:20:19 AM
Such wondering is the wreck and wake of suicide.
 
2013-05-12 02:23:23 AM

phishrace: AGremlin: Apparently the Golden Gate bridge is the most popular place in the world to off yourself.

It has a very high success rate. Although one of my sisters knew a dude that jumped and lived.

If you jump off that bridge and live, you ain't supposed to die yet. Back to work.


They interview a guy in the film that apparently survived the impact and was fished out of the water, as someone in the thread already mentioned.  It might be the guy your sister knew...I can't imagine there would be many people that survive a fall like that.
 
2013-05-12 02:24:34 AM
As someone that has been near the end a handful of times, I can completely understand what drove this man to the bridge in the first place. Once I decided on my method, which happens to be that very bridge, it's been hard to look at it the same way again. Hell, I even bought the plane ticket and flew to SF one time with my final destination in mind. It has a very strong appeal to me. It's such a beautiful bridge with this incredible view towards the Pacific Ocean. It just seems so peaceful way to pass on, with the sun setting into the horizon.  Much better to me than the Coronado Bridge here in San Diego, though I know it is technically just as effective since you still hit terminal velocity from the mid span. I have never been able to explain why I know that I will one day take the jump from the Golden Gate.  BTW, Gyrfalcon, if you ever need someone to chat with, please don't hesitate.
 
2013-05-12 02:29:35 AM
If it had been NYC, the cop would have pepper sprayed him.
 
2013-05-12 02:31:59 AM

plushpuppy: I agree with NotTucsonreally.
My Aunt killed herself in 2010 and it hurts my mom(her sister) every single day.  It hurts her daughters and her grandsons every single day.  Get help before it is too late.  Talk to someone, remember that people love you and the hurt you will leave behind is never worth it.

There is no such thing as a painless suicide


Goddamn M.A.S.H. Alan Alda should be brought up on charges.

/ seriously :,(
 
2013-05-12 02:35:57 AM

EvilEgg: The ceiling cat does more than just watch me masturbate?


For you that is his full time job.
 
2013-05-12 03:20:37 AM
They could always adopt the Chinese method of preventing suicide via bridges.... Slavering the climbable parts in butter.

http://metro.co.uk/2009/08/27/bridge-smeared-with-butter-to-stop-suic i des-369449/
 
2013-05-12 03:23:24 AM
The solution is clearly to smother the bridge in butter like the Chinese did.

http://metro.co.uk/2009/08/27/bridge-smeared-with-butter-to-stop-suic i des-369449/
 
2013-05-12 03:54:38 AM

Coach McGirk: My dad was a cop in the East Bay for over 30 years. His entire career was in the police department of the city we lived in. He died in February of cancer.

He would have loved this story. Thanks, Subby.. I miss him terribly but this story made me smile.


My biological grandfather was a fire chief in the east bay for about 20. He passed away from lung cancer in 1990. I wonder if they met at some point.
 
2013-05-12 03:58:33 AM
Was it Gilbert Gottfried?
 
2013-05-12 04:00:14 AM
Right after 9/11 our National Guard unit was sent to keep 24-hour watch over the Golden Gate Bridge. We hung out on that motherfarker for 2 1/2 years. I never saw anybody who even remotely looked like they were going to blow it up with a bomb-laden U Haul, but I did unfortunately witness one or two grease spots on the concrete near Fort Point where people didn't walk out far enough (I guess) before taking the leap. Heartbreaking.One morning I was on a foot patrol near the earthworks on the South side. I ran into a couple of dudes setting up a camcorder aimed at the bridge. They told me they were filming a documentary about the neverending painting cycle that goes on at the Golden Gate. I radioed it in to Bridge Patrol and was told the cameras were going to be out there "for a while" and that they were permitted and for me to let them go about their business. I'm pretty sure it was the guys behind "The Bridge"./CSB
 
2013-05-12 04:02:03 AM

dickfreckle: Aside from being horrified I remember wondering why someone would choose jumping as a method. This is America, and guns are easily available legally or not.


My answer to this is, if you have ever seen just one person who has survived an attempted suicide by gunshot, and surviving is something that happens far too often, you would never consider it as a viable option. Living despite having your face blown off or half your head blown away would be one of my worst nightmares. It's mind boggling how hard it can be to successfully kill yourself. Bridges have a pretty good success rate.
 
2013-05-12 04:28:33 AM
Nidiot: My answer to this is, if you have ever seen just one person who has survived an attempted suicide by gunshot, and surviving is something that happens far too often, you would never consider it as a viable option. Living despite having your face blown off or half your head blown away would be one of my worst nightmares. It's mind boggling how hard it can be to successfully kill yourself. Bridges have a pretty good success rate.

Comments I've heard reported from a few people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge is as a way of dying it sucks big donkey balls.  You hit the water and that farks you up big time but neither kills you knocks you out, then you drown.

If anyone wonders, there isn't anything to stop you from climbing over the rail and jumping.  They've been talking about a net or higher railing for years, me I think big meat hooks would do it.  Yeah try and jump and hope you miss one of the ornate but sharp hooks on the way down.
 
2013-05-12 04:56:39 AM

Fallout Boy: I must either be lucky or because of where I live but all my experiences with police officers have been great. They all had a "well let's go easy on him and let em off the hook" attitude.

/must be a Canada thing
//last time I've heard of police brutality in Canada was when some dipshiat went trigger happy on the taser out west


I can't say I've personally spent a lot of time in small-town Ontario, but I've sure as shiat heard more horrible stories about OPP officers over the years than I care to hear. Not kill-you-with-a-taser bad, but bash-your-legs-and-drop-you-in-the-middle-of-nowhere bad. Or the good ol' sucker punch while sticking their badge an inch from your face. Or whatever else some bored cops come up with.
 
2013-05-12 04:58:31 AM
Farking pollen making my eyes water...
 
2013-05-12 05:53:25 AM

PistolGripPump: As someone that has been near the end a handful of times, I can completely understand what drove this man to the bridge in the first place. Once I decided on my method, which happens to be that very bridge, it's been hard to look at it the same way again. Hell, I even bought the plane ticket and flew to SF one time with my final destination in mind. It has a very strong appeal to me. It's such a beautiful bridge with this incredible view towards the Pacific Ocean. It just seems so peaceful way to pass on, with the sun setting into the horizon.  Much better to me than the Coronado Bridge here in San Diego, though I know it is technically just as effective since you still hit terminal velocity from the mid span. I have never been able to explain why I know that I will one day take the jump from the Golden Gate.  BTW, Gyrfalcon, if you ever need someone to chat with, please don't hesitate.


Having tried and failed it once i can safely say i understand too. It does not get easier.
 
2013-05-12 06:16:40 AM

PistolGripPump: I have never been able to explain why I know that I will one day

...

The specifics aren't the same for me, but damn if I don't know this feeling. I can't quite put my finger on it, I just feel like I know. I dunno why I'm drawn to things the way I am, but I'm not drawn to much else. Maybe it's the closest thing I have to faith. Who's to say.
 
2013-05-12 06:33:54 AM

AGremlin: Watch "The Bridge", it's a 2006 documentary about the large amount of suicides that occur at the Golden Gate bridge.  Very enlightening in a morose kind of way.  Apparently the Golden Gate bridge is the most popular place in the world to off yourself.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/


Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8

"The Aokigahara Forest is the most popular site for suicides in Japan. After the novel Kuroi Jukai was published, in which a young lover commits suicide in the forest, people started taking their own lives there at a rate of 50 to 100 deaths a year. The site holds so many bodies that the Yakuza pays homeless people to sneak into the forest and rob the corpses. The authorities sweep for bodies only on an annual basis, as the forest sits at the base of Mt. Fuji and is too dense to patrol more frequently. "
 
2013-05-12 06:56:18 AM
i can't imagine how anyone could ever even contemplate suicide. i must be extremely lucky, because some people not only contemplate it, but actually attempt it or even succeed.
 
2013-05-12 07:15:50 AM
I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend,
You could cut ties with all the lies,
That you've been living in,
And if you do not want to see me again,
I would understand
.
 
2013-05-12 07:17:18 AM

gibbon1: Comments I've heard reported from a few people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge is as a way of dying it sucks big donkey balls.  You hit the water and that farks you up big time but neither kills you knocks you out, then you drown.


It wouldn't be my method of choice because
a) it has a 98% success rate, which is high, but not high enough given how many injuries you'd suffer if you did survive, and
b) I'd be afraid a primal urge to live would kick in once I'd jumped and give me four seconds of sheer panic as the last thing I'd experience

My choice would be take something like Nembutal, go to sleep and never wake up. Nice and peaceful.
 
2013-05-12 07:26:43 AM

proteus_b: i can't imagine how anyone could ever even contemplate suicide. i must be extremely lucky, because some people not only contemplate it, but actually attempt it or even succeed.


Terrorist: Nothing to lose
Suicide: Nothing to look forward to.
Suicide bomb: 72 virgins.
 
2013-05-12 08:13:34 AM

AlwaysRightBoy: Great story. Both of these men... and the rest of us, can book  this as "being a human being".


The story says the cop has talked "hundreds" of people down from jumping. I wonder what percentage of those went on to turn their lives around, versus the percentage who ended up homeless, in prison, or otherwise limping through a painful existence coping (or not) with mental illness.
 
2013-05-12 08:19:19 AM

Baz744: AlwaysRightBoy: Great story. Both of these men... and the rest of us, can book  this as "being a human being".

The story says the cop has talked "hundreds" of people down from jumping. I wonder what percentage of those went on to turn their lives around, versus the percentage who ended up homeless, in prison, or otherwise limping through a painful existence coping (or not) with mental illness.


Excellent question. Without decent after care for these people, talking down jumpers becomes rather like pro-lifers who have no interest in what happens to the fetus after it is born.
 
2013-05-12 08:22:01 AM

Nidiot: gibbon1: Comments I've heard reported from a few people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge is as a way of dying it sucks big donkey balls.  You hit the water and that farks you up big time but neither kills you knocks you out, then you drown.

It wouldn't be my method of choice because
a) it has a 98% success rate, which is high, but not high enough given how many injuries you'd suffer if you did survive, and
b) I'd be afraid a primal urge to live would kick in once I'd jumped and give me four seconds of sheer panic as the last thing I'd experience

My choice would be take something like Nembutal, go to sleep and never wake up. Nice and peaceful.


You can still have a panic response when sleeping. Worse, the temporal distortion associated with dreaming could cause the panic response to feel like it lasts... forever...

"[[A]nd by a sleep, to say we end
The Heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks
That Flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die to sleep,
To sleep, perchance to Dream; Aye, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes Calamity of so long life:"
~~Hamlet
 
2013-05-12 09:08:29 AM

phishrace: AGremlin: Apparently the Golden Gate bridge is the most popular place in the world to off yourself.

It has a very high success rate. Although one of my sisters knew a dude that jumped and lived.

If you jump off that bridge and live, you ain't supposed to die yet. Back to work.


I love the 'back to work' part.
 
2013-05-12 09:10:27 AM

HaveBeerWillTravel: But remember, all cops are dicks.


No, it's just the 95% that make the rest look bad.
 
2013-05-12 09:16:13 AM

Nidiot: dickfreckle: Aside from being horrified I remember wondering why someone would choose jumping as a method. This is America, and guns are easily available legally or not.

My answer to this is, if you have ever seen just one person who has survived an attempted suicide by gunshot, and surviving is something that happens far too often, you would never consider it as a viable option. Living despite having your face blown off or half your head blown away would be one of my worst nightmares. It's mind boggling how hard it can be to successfully kill yourself. Bridges have a pretty good success rate.


Yep, there's a guy a few towns over who was a pretty prominent businessman/politician.  He learned his wife had an affair with pretty much half of the male population in the town, so he shot himself in the head.  Problem was that he angled the barrel of the gun just enough that he survived, but with hideous scars, and several pieces of his brain missing.  He has lived in a semi-conscious state for the past ten or fifteen years in a nursing home.

\don't know what wife is doing
 
2013-05-12 09:32:35 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Nidiot: dickfreckle: Aside from being horrified I remember wondering why someone would choose jumping as a method. This is America, and guns are easily available legally or not.

My answer to this is, if you have ever seen just one person who has survived an attempted suicide by gunshot, and surviving is something that happens far too often, you would never consider it as a viable option. Living despite having your face blown off or half your head blown away would be one of my worst nightmares. It's mind boggling how hard it can be to successfully kill yourself. Bridges have a pretty good success rate.

Yep, there's a guy a few towns over who was a pretty prominent businessman/politician.  He learned his wife had an affair with pretty much half of the male population in the town, so he shot himself in the head.  Problem was that he angled the barrel of the gun just enough that he survived, but with hideous scars, and several pieces of his brain missing.  He has lived in a semi-conscious state for the past ten or fifteen years in a nursing home.

\don't know what wife is doing


The other half of the town
 
2013-05-12 09:52:51 AM
We have a small bridge here in Toronto -- the Bloor/Danforth Viaduct -- which used to be a popular suicide bridge. Then, a few years ago, they put up a Suicide Barrier, and it's not any more.

I've often thought it would be funny to go to that bridge, sit on the sidewalk, and shoot myself in the head while wearing a sign that says, "F**k you and your suicide barrier."
 
2013-05-12 09:53:39 AM

dickfreckle: When I was in college a guy jumped from the top of our dormitory, which was at appx. 20 stories IIRC. Aside from being horrified I remember wondering why someone would choose jumping as a method. This is America, and guns are easily available legally or not.

Like nearly anyone else I've contemplated what I would do in that situation. I always figured I'd wander into the woods or some other place that wouldn't horrify loved ones and leave a terrible mess. I've jumped from several airplanes and let me tell you - it's terrifying even with a parachute. Human brains aren't wired to fly, but knowing you'll survive (most likely) makes it fun. Knowing for a fact that I'm going to hit pavement or water that feels like pavement? Yikes.

Granted, no one but those who have tried and failed knows what really goes through the mind of someone intent upon shuffling from the mortal coil. When you're that desperate I imagine you don't really care as long as it 'works.'

Anyway, this is a cool story. Sometimes all you need in life is for someone to lend a caring voice.


What I hear about those who jump and survive is that they pretty much all regret it as soon as they jump.
 
2013-05-12 10:02:32 AM

Mambo Bananapatch: We have a small bridge here in Toronto -- the Bloor/Danforth Viaduct -- which used to be a popular suicide bridge. Then, a few years ago, they put up a Suicide Barrier, and it's not any more.


At 500m long and 40m high, I don't think it qualifies as "small".  Anyway, it had the second highest suicide rate in the world after the Golden Gate bridge until they put the barrier up.

So now all the jumpers go to the Leaside bridge instead.
 
2013-05-12 10:05:02 AM

biscuitsngravy: Right after 9/11 our National Guard unit was sent to keep 24-hour watch over the Golden Gate Bridge. We hung out on that motherfarker for 2 1/2 years. I never saw anybody who even remotely looked like they were going to blow it up with a bomb-laden U Haul, but I did unfortunately witness one or two grease spots on the concrete near Fort Point where people didn't walk out far enough (I guess) before taking the leap. Heartbreaking.One morning I was on a foot patrol near the earthworks on the South side. I ran into a couple of dudes setting up a camcorder aimed at the bridge. They told me they were filming a documentary about the neverending painting cycle that goes on at the Golden Gate. I radioed it in to Bridge Patrol and was told the cameras were going to be out there "for a while" and that they were permitted and for me to let them go about their business. I'm pretty sure it was the guys behind "The Bridge"./CSB


There actually was a documentary on the neverending painting cycle of the GGB. I watched it. Interesting, but probably not as interesting as The Bridge.
 
2013-05-12 10:15:45 AM
damn it fark, you and your cop heros are trying to break me today.
 
2013-05-12 10:41:34 AM

NotTucsonreally: Bravo to these cops who do this job.

  Having lost a 24 year old step son to suicide I wished there would have been someone to talk to him and help him.

  I guess towards the end he, my stepson realized something...authorities told us that it looked like he tried to back out but it was to late.

  The hardest part was I was the first notifed and I had to go with a police officer and get my wife from work and tell her the news.....hardest thing I ever had to do.....ever.

  High levels of cocaine and alcohol and a very poor decision and a friend who laughed off his call at the end and now  he's gone... he was a great kid...great job...great girlfriend......................

  If you know someone who needs help please do what you have to do to get them help....listen.....my son confided to his friends the last few weeks of his life that things weren't right in his head....they all took it as a joke....listen.

 Suicide ain't painless to the survivors.....I needed to do this...sorry.


Don't be sorry. 1 year ago this weekend one of my closest friends committed suicide after a spectacularly bad breakup with her fiancee, it's been kind of a rough week this year, definitely not painless.
 
2013-05-12 10:42:06 AM
Right in the feels.
 
2013-05-12 10:43:59 AM
Yeah - but what if you convince someone really evil to not kill themselves?
 
2013-05-12 10:52:30 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Yeah - but what if you convince someone really evil to not kill themselves?


Really evil people never kill themselves. They stay alive as long as possible and spread misery as far and wide as they can.

/Nice find, subby.
 
2013-05-12 10:57:20 AM

Cybernetic: Fark_Guy_Rob: Yeah - but what if you convince someone really evil to not kill themselves?

Really evil people never kill themselves.


I can think of a counterexample to that, but can't mention without Godwinning the thread...
 
2013-05-12 11:37:46 AM
Gyrfalcon: as a six-time attempter myself

Damn girl, perhaps that's an indicator that you're supposed to live.
 
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