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(AP News)   AP: And by "low level employees" inappropriately targeting conservative groups, what the IRS meant was "the commissioner" - but this is okay because your guy is in charge. Heckuva job you're doing keeping a straight face while you tell yourself that   (m.apnews.com) divider line 413
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2013-05-11 05:05:36 PM  
FINALLY the GOP will shut up about Benghazi now that there is a real scandal.
 
2013-05-11 05:12:01 PM  

cman: FINALLY the GOP will shut up about Benghazi now that there is a real scandal.


Don't put money on it.
 
2013-05-11 05:22:41 PM  
Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

i701.photobucket.com

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.
 
2013-05-11 05:41:47 PM  
Lerner instructed agents to change the criteria for flagging groups "immediately," the report says.

It's an OUTRAGE!!!!1
 
2013-05-11 06:04:57 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: cman: FINALLY the GOP will shut up about Benghazi now that there is a real scandal.

Don't put money on it.


Also, not really a scandal.
 
2013-05-11 06:11:55 PM  

Dinki: Lerner instructed agents to change the criteria for flagging groups "immediately," the report says.

It's an OUTRAGE!!!!1


1) She's not the commissioner, as TFA makes clear.
2) She changed the criteria only in tone, so that they'd be less flagrantly political - as you would have known had you continued for three more grafs. The groups targeted remained the same.
 
2013-05-11 06:16:04 PM  

Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.




Nixon did it. He quit because of it too
 
2013-05-11 06:36:55 PM  

Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.


Pretty sure we're done here
 
2013-05-11 06:42:22 PM  
I think subby may have some unresolved childhood issues he needs to work through.
 
2013-05-11 06:43:16 PM  
Unless they find some memo or something from the White House directing the IRS to target these groups I dont see the scandal here.

But how do we find a document like that? hummmmmm maybe an investigation? Remember "The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it's the seriousness of the charge that matters"
 
2013-05-11 06:51:45 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus:  Remember "The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it's the seriousness of the charge that matters"

Wasn't it Republicans who said that during one of the Clinton investigations?
 
2013-05-11 06:52:34 PM  
I'm a little late to this story but is the outrage over the fact that the people who collect taxes were watching groups consisting of people who believe they don't have to pay taxes?

This is like when the mailman kept hassling me for pooping in mailboxes. What business of it was his?
 
2013-05-11 06:58:17 PM  

Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.


You can't look as dumb as you seem, the IRS is under the direct control of the president. If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only. Well Mr Einstein?
 
2013-05-11 07:01:03 PM  

maxalt: Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.

You can't look as dumb as you seem, the IRS is under the direct control of the president. If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only. Well Mr Einstein?


False flag operation to make it appear as if 0bama was trying to persecute his political enemies.
 
2013-05-11 07:04:05 PM  

Mentat: The Stealth Hippopotamus:  Remember "The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it's the seriousness of the charge that matters"

Wasn't it Republicans who said that during one of the Clinton investigations?


It was during the Clarance Thomas hearings
 
2013-05-11 07:14:58 PM  

Karac: maxalt: Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.

You can't look as dumb as you seem, the IRS is under the direct control of the president. If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only. Well Mr Einstein?

False flag operation to make it appear as if 0bama was trying to persecute his political enemies.


He said in a speech that he would attack enemies with the IRS more than 5 times. but I guess he was just kidding. He is a lying monster that should be back on the mean streets of Chicago.
 
2013-05-11 07:18:11 PM  
Throw that Bush appointee out now!
 
2013-05-11 07:22:24 PM  

EnviroDude: Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.

Nixon did it. He quit because of it too


Um, no.  You GOPers want payback for Watergate, but it's not quite as simple as you want it to be.

Tricky Dick's Taint
What: Nixon's legacy of outright treason, rat-farking, dirty tricks, blackmail, enemies lists, burglary, bribery, wire tapping, McCarthyism, red-baiting, misuse of the IRS, corporate payoffs, money laundering, electoral and voter fraud, perjury, mafia ties, domestic spying by the CIA, anti-Semitism, racism, and war crimes.
Who: Taint carried by members of Nixon's administration who continue to infect others.  Such as
Roger Ailes (Der Leader of Fox News)
Pat Buchanan (Chardonnay-drinking, Brie-eating culture warrior)
Robert Bork (invented "original intent" as cover for reactionary social engineering and judicial activism)
Antonin Scalia (SCOTUS wild man)
Dick Cheney (war criminal)
Donald Rumsfeld (war criminal)
George H.W. Bush (took money from illegal Nixon slush fund and later gave us Clarence Thomas)
Karl Rove (member of CREEP and current GOP bagman)
David Gergan
John Warner
William Safire (a congenital liar)
Alan Greenspan (Ayn Rand devotee who enginered the housing/banking bubble)
Gerald Ford (eaten by wolves)
Warren Burger
Alexander Haig (war criminal)
George Schultz (has tatoo on his ass)
Caspar Weinberger (war criminal)
Spiro Agnew (a nattering nabob of negativity and outright racist)
William Renquist (Bush v. Gore)
Henry Kissinger (war criminal)
Ben Stein (creationist nutbag)
Hank Paulson (the Wall Street bailout was his idea)
Peter Peterson (Peterson Foundation and balanced budget jihadist)
G. Gordon Liddy (bagman and burglar turned propagandist)
E. Howard Hunt
Richard Helms (lied to Congress and given medal by Ronald Reagan)
H.R. Haldeman (crook)
John Ehrlichman (crook)
Charles Colson (convicted felon & advocate of theocracy)
 
2013-05-11 07:47:09 PM  
Gee, a bunch of groups who explicitly say they don't believe in paying taxes are unfairly targeted for audits? If part of their motto wasn't 'taxed enough already' and their party stance wasn't 'civil disobedience by not paying taxes and voting for people who hide income in shell companies' maybe there would be a real problem here.
 
2013-05-11 07:49:41 PM  

Bucky Katt: EnviroDude: Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation. So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.

Nixon did it. He quit because of it too

Um, no. You GOPers want payback for Watergate, but it's not quite as simple as you want it to be.



Payback for watergate?  Because expecting governments to operate under the law is too much to ask for if you have a D in the whitehouse.

got it
 
2013-05-11 07:52:35 PM  

maxalt: Karac: maxalt: Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.

You can't look as dumb as you seem, the IRS is under the direct control of the president. If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only. Well Mr Einstein?

False flag operation to make it appear as if 0bama was trying to persecute his political enemies.

He said in a speech that he would attack enemies with the IRS more than 5 times. but I guess he was just kidding. He is a lying monster that should be back on the mean streets of Chicago.


With that handle, you're just not going to get too many bites on the weekend. Maybe during the week
 
2013-05-11 08:09:21 PM  
Reagan had the most criminal administration in modern history. Obama has a long way to go before he even gets halfway.
 
2013-05-11 08:13:43 PM  
There has been a surge of politically active groups claiming tax-exempt status in recent elections - conservative and liberal. Among the highest profile are Republican Karl Rove's group Crossroads GPS and the liberal Moveon.org.

These groups claim tax-exempt status under section 501 (c) (4) of the federal tax code, which is for social welfare groups. Unlike other charitable groups, these organizations are allowed to participate in political activities, but their primary activity must be social welfare.


Do crossroads GPS and MoveOn.org operated soup kitchens, daycare centers or women's shelters that I am unaware of?

What a fkn joke.  Tax ALL of those clowns.
 
2013-05-11 08:14:53 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: maxalt: Karac: maxalt: Karac: Shulman was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican. His 6-year term ended in November.

[i701.photobucket.com image 500x500]

President Barack Obama has yet to nominate a successor.

The position of IRS commissioner requires Senate confirmation.  So I'm sure that position will get filled sometime right after the heat death of the universe.

You can't look as dumb as you seem, the IRS is under the direct control of the president. If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only. Well Mr Einstein?

False flag operation to make it appear as if 0bama was trying to persecute his political enemies.

He said in a speech that he would attack enemies with the IRS more than 5 times. but I guess he was just kidding. He is a lying monster that should be back on the mean streets of Chicago.

With that handle, you're just not going to get too many bites on the weekend. Maybe during the week


Not looking for "bites" just out to piss off the democriers and the repulaliers. But you people on the weekend think for some reason you are more intelligent than the week dayers. You are a fool.
 
2013-05-11 08:17:37 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mentat: The Stealth Hippopotamus:  Remember "The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it's the seriousness of the charge that matters"

Wasn't it Republicans who said that during one of the Clinton investigations?

It was during the Clarance Thomas hearings


Ah.  Way to pull out the contemporary reference.  Are you going to reference Alger Hiss next?
 
2013-05-11 08:18:04 PM  

ykarie: Gee, a bunch of groups who explicitly say they don't believe in paying taxes are unfairly targeted for audits? If part of their motto wasn't 'taxed enough already' and their party stance wasn't 'civil disobedience by not paying taxes and voting for people who hide income in shell companies' maybe there would be a real problem here.


Also, based on ads that play between segments of conservative radio, a lot of them probably owe back taxes.
Which is hilarious because the ads always seem to play between segments of Rush et al. biatching about degenerates that aren't paying taxes.
 
2013-05-11 08:18:16 PM  

maxalt: If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only.


You're laboring under the delusion that Bush was some kind of small-government libertarian or true-believing conservative.
 
2013-05-11 08:18:51 PM  
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2013-05-11 08:20:40 PM  
I'm still trying to understand what the big deal happens to be.

If the IRS properly investigated who it needs to investigate in this nation, I'd BET MONEY that 80% or more of non-profits that don't deserve non-profit status are linked to conservative organizations.
 
2013-05-11 08:21:03 PM  

dr_blasto: Reagan had the most criminal administration in modern history. Obama has a long way to go before he even gets halfway.


Well, he could secretly sell weapons to North Korea.  But we'll need to find an appropriate group to give the proceeds to.  "Anti-Communist" murder/rape squads aren't as prevalent as they were in the 80s.

I'm sure if Obama just claims that he doesn't remember any of that happening, Congress will let it slide.
 
2013-05-11 08:21:41 PM  
"Profiling" doesn't feel so hot when it's directed at you, does it conservatives.
 
2013-05-11 08:24:20 PM  
And, again, I don't see "conservative" groups being specifically targeted, I see "TEA Party" groups specifically being targeted. Gee, why would that matter? What does TEA stand for?

Oh, and yes, people who are not simpletons can see how the word "Patriot" has also been... misappropriated in recent years.
 
2013-05-11 08:26:22 PM  

maxalt: Not looking for "bites" just out to piss off the democriers and the repulaliers. But you people on the weekend think for some reason you are more intelligent than the week dayers. You are a fool.


Well, I can't argue with that.

I definitely think I'm more intelligent than the guy who came up with 'repulaliers'.
 
2013-05-11 08:29:43 PM  

puffy999: I'm still trying to understand what the big deal happens to be.


Well, you're a liberal so I can see how you wouldn't understand what a bad thing political targeting by the IRS really is, likely because of your second-rate public education.   So let the Washington Post editorial board explain it to you.
 
2013-05-11 08:36:03 PM  
Good thing the Tea Party is full of independents, not Republicans. It's not potential intimidation, just a fraud investigation right Fox?
 
2013-05-11 08:37:38 PM  

Gulper Eel: maxalt: If Bush appointed them why would they attack conservative groups only.

You're laboring under the delusion that Bush was some kind of small-government libertarian or true-believing conservative.


 Absolutely not, Bush was just another unelected puppet for the real ruling class. As soon as the people come to understand that the fight between the right and left is nothing more than an expensive example of bread and circus or modern day wrestling the better off we all will be. Oh poor Obama he only had a veto proof first two years and what did he do? He passed the largest most intrusive tax increase in Americas history. And OH BOY the Supreme Court said it was legal, HUGE surprise. What about all his other promises? Well he fulfilled them, bring troops home, create jobs, balance the budget. No different than any president since FDR, and if they want real change, they are killed JFK, RFK shot Reagan, that governor from Alabama. Don't open your eyes it is easier to watch WWW.
 
2013-05-11 08:43:04 PM  
Drudge link claims they were also targeting people who are good with money.
 
2013-05-11 08:45:01 PM  
Too bad the GOP farked the chicken with Benghazi so hard that most people don't care about the real scandals.
 
2013-05-11 08:48:10 PM  
In a sane world this headline would read: "Political groups falsely claim to be charities. IRS lets them withdraw paperwork, takes no further action."
 
2013-05-11 09:02:28 PM  

Karac: maxalt: Not looking for "bites" just out to piss off the democriers and the repulaliers. But you people on the weekend think for some reason you are more intelligent than the week dayers. You are a fool.

Well, I can't argue with that.

I definitely think I'm more intelligent than the guy who came up with 'repulaliers'.


Eh, I've been called worse by better (democriers, that is)
 
2013-05-11 09:09:43 PM  

Karac: maxalt: Not looking for "bites" just out to piss off the democriers and the repulaliers. But you people on the weekend think for some reason you are more intelligent than the week dayers. You are a fool.

Well, I can't argue with that.

I definitely think I'm more intelligent than the guy who came up with 'repulaliers'.


OK OK Republican lies. Democrat cries, feel better now.
 
2013-05-11 09:20:44 PM  
We could solve all the world's energy problems if only we could harness the limitless power of Republican outrage and butthurt. Should start working on my TED talk...
 
2013-05-11 09:24:52 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm a little late to this story but is the outrage over the fact that the people who collect taxes were watching groups consisting of people who believe they don't have to pay taxes?

This is like when the mailman kept hassling me for pooping in mailboxes. What business of it was his?


Yeah the anti-government group is getting mad about the government looking at their finances
 
2013-05-11 09:29:31 PM  

maxalt: He said in a speech that he would attack enemies with the IRS more than 5 times. but I guess he was just kidding. He is a lying monster that should be back on the mean streets of Chicago.



i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-11 09:38:05 PM  

ykarie: Gee, a bunch of groups who explicitly say they don't believe in paying taxes are unfairly targeted for audits? If part of their motto wasn't 'taxed enough already' and their party stance wasn't 'civil disobedience by not paying taxes and voting for people who hide income in shell companies' maybe there would be a real problem here.


I agree.  Plus, with the links between the tea party and the sovereign citizens and white supremacists, it just make sense to dig a little deeper.  If anything, the only problem is that the person who authorized it didn't come right out and say "Of course we looked into it, it's just common sense, these people are nutjobs".
 
2013-05-11 09:48:05 PM  

themindiswatching: Too bad the GOP farked the chicken with Benghazi so hard that most people don't care about the real scandals.


There's that weirdly consistant 20% of survey respondents. They'll probably still care.
 
2013-05-11 09:49:27 PM  

Triumph: Drudge link claims they were also targeting people who are good with money.


The IRS is in the business of collecting money.  Do you expect them to audit the homeless?
 
2013-05-11 09:57:08 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: ykarie: Gee, a bunch of groups who explicitly say they don't believe in paying taxes are unfairly targeted for audits? If part of their motto wasn't 'taxed enough already' and their party stance wasn't 'civil disobedience by not paying taxes and voting for people who hide income in shell companies' maybe there would be a real problem here.

I agree.  Plus, with the links between the tea party and the sovereign citizens and white supremacists, it just make sense to dig a little deeper.  If anything, the only problem is that the person who authorized it didn't come right out and say "Of course we looked into it, it's just common sense, these people are nutjobs".


That's the issue I see, as well. When you link yourself to people who claim that this is the way to change the world, you investigate them. It's the same profiling they demand of every mosque.
 
2013-05-11 09:57:33 PM  
Sounds like the Republican commissioner didn't want the Tea Party screwing up his party's chances.
 
2013-05-11 10:02:19 PM  

Ambivalence: "Profiling" doesn't feel so hot when it's directed at you, does it conservatives.


Ding ding ding! We have a winner here folks. The GOP advocates profiling every day, but only against people who aren't white enough. Let's see these Tea Party charities open their books.
 
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