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(Portland Press Herald)   Signs that spring has arrived in Maine: Flowers start blooming, Lawnmowers start purring and authorities start recovering bodies of all the snowmobilers who fell through the ice on lakes over the winter   (pressherald.com) divider line 45
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2013-05-11 06:47:40 PM  
They're not dead till they're warm and dead
 
2013-05-11 07:52:43 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: They're not dead till they're warm and dead


If youve been cold and dead for months Im preety sure you're dead.
 
2013-05-11 07:53:42 PM  
You left one sign of Spring out.

They are able to bury everyone that's died since the ground froze last Fall.
 
2013-05-11 07:55:01 PM  

Oldiron_79: Peter von Nostrand: They're not dead till they're warm and dead

If youve been cold and dead for months Im preety sure you're dead.


It's a saying in EMS. Using it jokingly here, though I should assume most people haven't heard of it
 
2013-05-11 08:00:26 PM  
Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?
 
2013-05-11 08:01:18 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Oldiron_79: Peter von Nostrand: They're not dead till they're warm and dead

If youve been cold and dead for months Im preety sure you're dead.

It's a saying in EMS. Using it jokingly here, though I should assume most people haven't heard of it


Well Ive heard it before, but that doesnt mean many or most have.

Cold and "alive"... you mean like Zombies?
 
2013-05-11 08:02:46 PM  

Oldiron_79: If youve been cold and dead for months Im preety sure you're dead.


It all depends on your species.  Humans have been fully revived from hypothermic deanimation after seven hours, bacteria can go for several hundred million years.
 
2013-05-11 08:05:17 PM  
So 4 Maineiacs all died the same day snowmobiling on the same unfrozen lake. Ayup, in Maine they call that a Monday.
 
2013-05-11 08:06:34 PM  
past "best used date" humancicles...

yech
 
2013-05-11 08:08:11 PM  

2xhelix: Oldiron_79: If youve been cold and dead for months Im preety sure you're dead.

It all depends on your species.  Humans have been fully revived from hypothermic deanimation after seven hours, bacteria can go for several hundred million years.


So could the thawee count to Potato?
 
2013-05-11 08:08:55 PM  
darwin's trophy room?
 
2013-05-11 08:18:42 PM  

Yogimus: darwin's trophy room?


Ugh, I'm going to hell for laughing at that.
 
2013-05-11 08:21:37 PM  

wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?


about.com:
In 1927, the first patent for a snowmobile was issued to Carl J. Eliason of Sayner, Wisconsin. The patent listed Eliason's invention as a snow machine.
Between the years of 1927 and 1962, thirteen patents were granted to inventors for snow vehicles considered the predecessors to the modern snowmobile.
In 1958, Joseph-Armand Bombardier designed the modern snowmobile. Bombardier is considered the father of snowmobiling who began commercial production and marketing of the Ski-Doo snowmobile in 1959. Joseph-Armand Bombardier was the first person to successfully market snowmobiles. He was granted a Canadian patent in 1960 and a U.S. patent in 1962 for his endless track vehicle aka snowmobile.
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I can understand sympathies for those in the 1959-1962 'they are really booming on the market and we're learning how incredibly easy it is to kill ourselves doing stupid shiat with these toys' learning curve. Sadly it is repeated annually because some people are pinheads. Year after year, leaving widows and young children to fend for themselves. No surprise these are often the same guys that are too cheap or stupid to have a nice fat insurance policy all paid up so the remaining family can eat and not become homeless after the funeral.

Just like the drunken no-helmet dooshbags that ruined the incredibly fun and safe 3 wheel Honda ATC for anyone who ever wanted to own and enjoy one. Every year a given amount of yahoos would kill themselves driving drunk right into a tree Jack Daniels to the wind and not a piece of safety equipment in sight. Killed that fun for everyone. thanks a lot, dooshbags.
 
2013-05-11 08:22:17 PM  

Oldiron_79: So could the thawee count to Potato?


There's no brain damage.  In the seven hour case, it was a skier who got trapped in a waterfall.  She later went on to become a radiologist.  It's the same concept as bears going in and out of hybernation.  It has to do with hydrogen sulphide binding with oxygen receptors on cells, which permits animals to go into suspended animation without tissue damage.  Here's Mark Roth's TED talk on his research in the area.  It's fascinating shiat.
 
2013-05-11 08:24:38 PM  
So they have a number of kobolds in the area...
 
2013-05-11 08:28:10 PM  

wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?


To sum up: no.
 
2013-05-11 08:29:53 PM  

wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?


Dude, it was  DECEMBER 31st.  Do you think there was open water?

/drtfa
 
2013-05-11 08:35:57 PM  
aah yuup, can't get theya from he-ya in the springtime.
 
2013-05-11 08:46:21 PM  
I read the headline and could hear Vivaldi playing in my mind.
 
2013-05-11 09:03:59 PM  
i think the suburban snow mobile owners who take their toys on a ride around town when a freak storm hits are funnier. something about them getting decapitated by a telephone pole support cable as they zig zag from roads to trespassing on private properties with large yards hits my funny bone.
 
2013-05-11 09:07:00 PM  
John Spencer, 41, of Litchfield.

Clearly he's massing an undead army.
 
2013-05-11 09:14:33 PM  
I used to live in Houghton, MI, which was a big tourist spot for snowmobilers.  Every winter those redneck douchebags would come up decked out in their FXR gear and act like they were entitled to special treatment from the locals and police because they brought their tourism money into that little podunk town.  They were completely inconsiderate of the locals, and would do stuff like get sloppy drunk and then drive their loud, obnoxious machines past apartment buildings and people's houses at 1:00am on weeknights.  Every year at least one of them, more likely several of them, would end up killing themselves by wrapping themselves around a tree while going 80mph through the woods at night, or finding that weak or open patch of ice out on the canal or lake.  A lot of them died around the bridge supports, where there were many signs warning people to keep out because of unstable ice.  It was like Darwin's playground for asshats.
 
2013-05-11 09:20:45 PM  
Lt. Kevin Adam of the Maine Warden Service said there was still a helmet on Glenn Henderson's body

Dibs
 
2013-05-11 09:29:36 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lt. Kevin Adam of the Maine Warden Service said there was still a helmet on Glenn Henderson's body

Dibs


So apparently helmets  don'tsave lives.
 
2013-05-11 09:38:17 PM  
An old joke...

Bob, Bill and John are fishing on a northern lake one August when John falls overboard. "Grab him," Bill yells. "He can't swim." But Bob is too late and John sinks. So Bob strips down to his briefs, jumps overboard and dives underwater. He comes up empty handed and says "Can't find him, too dark." Bill says: "You have to find him, he's our best friend. What would we tell his wife?" So Bob tries again and comes up, shoves the body over the side of the boat, and Bill starts CPR. After a few minutes of trying without success to revive their pal, Bill says "I don't recall ever noticing John had such bad breath before."
"Yeah?" replies Bill. "Well I don't remember him wearin' that snowmobile suit neither."
 
2013-05-11 09:38:25 PM  
And I thought subby was being facetious.
 
2013-05-11 09:41:55 PM  
So Glenn went with a helmet instead of a survival suit.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-11 10:05:09 PM  

nytmare: And I thought subby was being facetious.


In the Temperance Brennan books by Kathy Reichs (aka creator of the Bones TV show which is loosely based on the books), she mentions in at least two of them how they always find a few corpses after the spring thaw. Pretty much anywhere north of PA, I expect there's going to be a few every spring.
 
2013-05-11 10:06:44 PM  

KrispyKritter: wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?

about.com:
In 1927, the first patent for a snowmobile was issued to Carl J. Eliason of Sayner, Wisconsin. The patent listed Eliason's invention as a snow machine.
Between the years of 1927 and 1962, thirteen patents were granted to inventors for snow vehicles considered the predecessors to the modern snowmobile.
In 1958, Joseph-Armand Bombardier designed the modern snowmobile. Bombardier is considered the father of snowmobiling who began commercial production and marketing of the Ski-Doo snowmobile in 1959. Joseph-Armand Bombardier was the first person to successfully market snowmobiles. He was granted a Canadian patent in 1960 and a U.S. patent in 1962 for his endless track vehicle aka snowmobile.
-------
I can understand sympathies for those in the 1959-1962 'they are really booming on the market and we're learning how incredibly easy it is to kill ourselves doing stupid shiat with these toys' learning curve. Sadly it is repeated annually because some people are pinheads. Year after year, leaving widows and young children to fend for themselves. No surprise these are often the same guys that are too cheap or stupid to have a nice fat insurance policy all paid up so the remaining family can eat and not become homeless after the funeral.

Just like the drunken no-helmet dooshbags that ruined the incredibly fun and safe 3 wheel Honda ATC for anyone who ever wanted to own and enjoy one. Every year a given amount of yahoos would kill themselves driving drunk right into a tree Jack Daniels to the wind and not a piece of safety equipment in sight. Killed that fun for everyone. thanks a lot, dooshbags.


Life insurance policies are issued with riders that exclude coverage from such activitie especially if you are dumb enough to say yes when they ask if you ride motorcycles, snow mobiles or ATVs. When I was selling insurance I always explained that they consider that when answering questions. I can't tell someone to lie, but I don't know if they are telling me the truth when they say "No." And if a year down the line I find that they do, I will congratulate them on their new purchase.

Because if they say "yes" then their widows will be awfully pissed to find out that those premiums didn't result in anything for them.
 
2013-05-11 10:14:14 PM  
My care level is even less than the cut and pasting of the don't care meter.
Mr. Gump already has this situation covered.
 
2013-05-11 10:50:06 PM  
Holy shiat, the wardens have their own remotely operated drone capable of fishing out a body.  When the wardens feel the need to shell out money for that kind of device it suggests the locals aren't particularly good at water safety.
 
2013-05-11 11:26:54 PM  

ski9600: wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?

Dude, it was  DECEMBER 31st.  Do you think there was open water?

/drtfa


Yes.

The warden service search began Tuesday with the use of sonar in the area where the snowmobilers are thought to have fallen into open water on the then-partially frozen lake in late December

...


Searchers initially found helmets and gloves while searching for Dawn Newell, 45, of Yarmouth, who went into the lake the night of Dec. 30 while snowmobiling with her son.

She rode her snowmobile into open water hours before the others were reported missing. Her body was recovered Dec. 31
 
2013-05-11 11:33:06 PM  
Ski9600

Yes, there was open water. Maine's larger lakes frequently remain liquidy until January.
 
2013-05-11 11:41:43 PM  
The dead motorcyclist will soon be filling the local papers in Maine but until then I give you a wild turkey into the windscreen of a pickup. Happened on I-95 down near Freeport today.

http://i.imgur.com/gP1fGju.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gP1fGju.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q9eKIzo.jpg
 
2013-05-11 11:43:07 PM  
Oops, uploaded the same pic twice. This is the money shot.

http://i.imgur.com/zG61RwR.jpg
 
2013-05-11 11:55:07 PM  

The Asshole Guy: Oops, uploaded the same pic twice. This is the money shot.

http://i.imgur.com/zG61RwR.jpg


blog.commodorecrush.com
Should get royalties every time the phrase 'money shot' is used.
 
2013-05-12 01:38:15 AM  

wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?


This. These fools believe if the are fast enough, they will jump open water.
 
2013-05-12 03:58:32 AM  
I knew a woman who was riding her snowmobile what got runned over by a damned old train.
See eight threads above.
 
2013-05-12 05:30:25 AM  

filter: wingnut396: Am I supposed to be feel sympathy for idiots that drove SNOWmobiles across open water?

This. These fools believe if the are fast enough, they will jump open water.


They can. And quite well even.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AApGZECbHwU

In fact, the record is around 80 miles on open water fool.
 
2013-05-12 02:02:39 PM  

HortusMatris: I used to live in Houghton, MI, which was a big tourist spot for snowmobilers.  Every winter those redneck douchebags would come up decked out in their FXR gear and act like they were entitled to special treatment from the locals and police because they brought their tourism money into that little podunk town.  They were completely inconsiderate of the locals, and would do stuff like get sloppy drunk and then drive their loud, obnoxious machines past apartment buildings and people's houses at 1:00am on weeknights.  Every year at least one of them, more likely several of them, would end up killing themselves by wrapping themselves around a tree while going 80mph through the woods at night, or finding that weak or open patch of ice out on the canal or lake.  A lot of them died around the bridge supports, where there were many signs warning people to keep out because of unstable ice.  It was like Darwin's playground for asshats.


If there were Pulitzers for Fark commentary, you would receive one.
See also: ATVers.
 
2013-05-12 02:41:46 PM  

Emo Jeezus: HortusMatris: I used to live in Houghton, MI, which was a big tourist spot for snowmobilers.  Every winter those redneck douchebags would come up decked out in their FXR gear and act like they were entitled to special treatment from the locals and police because they brought their tourism money into that little podunk town.  They were completely inconsiderate of the locals, and would do stuff like get sloppy drunk and then drive their loud, obnoxious machines past apartment buildings and people's houses at 1:00am on weeknights.  Every year at least one of them, more likely several of them, would end up killing themselves by wrapping themselves around a tree while going 80mph through the woods at night, or finding that weak or open patch of ice out on the canal or lake.  A lot of them died around the bridge supports, where there were many signs warning people to keep out because of unstable ice.  It was like Darwin's playground for asshats.

If there were Pulitzers for Fark commentary, you would receive one.
See also: ATVers.


Well thank'ee kindly, sir.  And I agree about ATVers.  Now I live in Oregon, and small coastal towns near dunes have to put up with those guys.  Luckily I live much further inland and don't have to deal with that myself.
 
2013-05-12 02:42:07 PM  
The only thing surprising about this is that the corpses are in their 40s. I think the papers in Ontario have a template they dust off as soon as the snow starts falling that goes "Rescuers have called of the search for _______________,a male between the ages of 16 and 25, who drove his snowmobile onto open water/thin ice late Saturday night after telling his friends 'hey guys, watch this.' Alcohol was involved."
 
2013-05-12 04:49:39 PM  
Strike snow machine and edit in jet skis and this article works for me. Hate those retards.
 
2013-05-12 05:42:01 PM  

The Asshole Guy: The dead motorcyclist will soon be filling the local papers in Maine but until then I give you a wild turkey into the windscreen of a pickup. Happened on I-95 down near Freeport today.

http://i.imgur.com/gP1fGju.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gP1fGju.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q9eKIzo.jpg


As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could avoid the interstate.
 
2013-05-12 09:30:29 PM  
Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
Lt. Kevin Adam of the Maine Warden Service said there was still a helmet on Glenn Henderson's body

Dibs

Forget the helmet, I know where 5 snowmobiles are for the taking.
 
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