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(Washington Post)   Well that didn't take long: guy who wrote the Heritage Foundation study claiming immigration reform would cost umpty-trillions of dollars resigns after being outed as a racist and contributor to white supremacist websites   (m.washingtonpost.com) divider line 199
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2013-05-11 02:09:48 PM
This is my shocked face  :-|
 
2013-05-11 02:20:57 PM
Rehired in 5, 4, 3...
 
2013-05-11 02:21:23 PM
This article didn't explicitly state that he was a contributor to whtie spremacist websites, but here's an article that did:

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=a rt icle&id=1170:heritage-foundation-study-co-author-can-also-be-found-on- white-supremacist-website&catid=29:us&Itemid=14&lang=en

He was a contributor to Alternative Right, which publicized itself as "dedicated to heretical perspectives on society and culture-popular, high, and otherwise-particularly those informed by radical, traditionalist, and nationalist outlooks."

It was founded by a guy named Richard Spencer who is now the "chairman of the Montana-based National Policy Institute, an organization that describes itself as a think tank for 'White Americans.'"
 
2013-05-11 02:22:07 PM
Damn, my typographical errors in that previous post are egregious.
 
2013-05-11 02:28:58 PM

RexTalionis: This article didn't explicitly state that he was a contributor to whtie spremacist websites, but here's an article that did:

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=a rt icle&id=1170:heritage-foundation-study-co-author-can-also-be-found-on- white-supremacist-website&catid=29:us&Itemid=14&lang=en

He was a contributor to Alternative Right, which publicized itself as "dedicated to heretical perspectives on society and culture-popular, high, and otherwise-particularly those informed by radical, traditionalist, and nationalist outlooks."

It was founded by a guy named Richard Spencer who is now the "chairman of the Montana-based National Policy Institute, an organization that describes itself as a think tank for 'White Americans.'"


Rachel's got some video at about 2:20. Pretty much what you'd expect.
 
2013-05-11 02:32:11 PM
FTA: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a tea party favorite who helped develop the immigration bill and denounced the Heritage study, noted that his own parents, who emigrated from Cuba, did not graduate from high school. "I would not say they were a burden on the United States," Rubio said. "My parents were a lot better off 25 years after they emigrated here than they were when they first got here."

I got mine, fark all the rest of you.
 
2013-05-11 02:43:44 PM
So another conservative has been outed as a racist?? *yawn*
 
2013-05-11 03:06:58 PM
 
2013-05-11 03:07:25 PM
Didn't the original article argue that hispanics are inherently dumber than other races?  This is not surprising.
 
2013-05-11 03:10:52 PM
What's his Fark handle?

(The answer will likely be apparent, later, in this thread.)
 
2013-05-11 03:32:40 PM
Has the Republican party said they'll reverse their policy positions on immigration. If not, they're abandoning the man (for now), but supporting what he said. "We're not racists. We're just doing the things a racist tells us to do."
 
2013-05-11 03:33:10 PM
This proves it.  Liberals are the real racists.
 
2013-05-11 04:30:12 PM

propasaurus: FTA: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a tea party favorite who helped develop the immigration bill and denounced the Heritage study, noted that his own parents, who emigrated from Cuba, did not graduate from high school. "I would not say they were a burden on the United States," Rubio said. "My parents were a lot better off 25 years after they emigrated here than they were when they first got here."

I got mine, fark all the rest of you.


This is about 95% of why Mexicans hate Cubans.

Go ahead, Republicans. Put your hopes on Rubio as your "brown guy" to get the "Hispanic" vote.
 
2013-05-11 04:44:03 PM

themindiswatching: Rehired in 5, 4, 3...


Fox Contributor in 5, 4...
 
2013-05-11 04:45:29 PM
As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?
 
2013-05-11 04:50:59 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: RexTalionis: This article didn't explicitly state that he was a contributor to whtie spremacist websites, but here's an article that did:

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=a rt icle&id=1170:heritage-foundation-study-co-author-can-also-be-found-on- white-supremacist-website&catid=29:us&Itemid=14&lang=en

He was a contributor to Alternative Right, which publicized itself as "dedicated to heretical perspectives on society and culture-popular, high, and otherwise-particularly those informed by radical, traditionalist, and nationalist outlooks."

It was founded by a guy named Richard Spencer who is now the "chairman of the Montana-based National Policy Institute, an organization that describes itself as a think tank for 'White Americans.'"

Rachel's got some video at about 2:20. Pretty much what you'd expect.


"Hispandering..."

I about fell out of my chair when Maddow quoted that.
 
2013-05-11 04:51:56 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.


I love how Malkin keeps putting the word racist in quotes, as though the word itself is somehow dubious.
 
2013-05-11 04:58:24 PM
Clicking some of those links = trip to blatent racism town

/not Kool you Krazy Kids
 
2013-05-11 04:59:53 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.


My favorite part is that the share buttons on the top of that article are all at 0. Literally nobody wants to share that sh*t.
 
2013-05-11 05:00:21 PM

coco ebert: As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?

IMHO that's a bigger scandal here:
Aming other things, Richwine posited that the different IQ scores among the races was genetically based. Since there is no genetic basis for race (two Kalahari Bush men from neighboring villages have greater genetic variation than say, an Irishman has from a Pacific Islander). How in the fark did that slip past the thesis defense panel?  That is, at best, sloppy scholarship, at worst the same line of eugenic thinking that was very popular among some mid-century German politicians
Apparently Harvard PhD's don't really mean what they used to
 
2013-05-11 05:02:42 PM

HighOnCraic: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.

I love how Malkin keeps putting the word racist in quotes, as though the word itself is somehow dubious.


Because she really thinks that Liberals are the real racists.
 
2013-05-11 05:03:16 PM
That is a hilarious sounding dissertation. I could see how there actually could be IQ differences between races, but Hispanic wouldn't be a race, neither would Latino, or Mexican, or anything that this guy could have used, or really anything realistically measurable i can think of
 
2013-05-11 05:08:30 PM
www.slate.comcdn-media.hollywood.com

one, two, three! Three ways to mis-interpret IQ in ways that are conducive to my racism! Ah ah ah!
 
2013-05-11 05:12:11 PM
"low-skilled immigrants have less education and lower IQs and will earn less money and need more benefits than average Americans."
that seems like a obvious and unambiguously factual statement.
also applies to people that are already citizens.
why are people butt devastated over this?
 
2013-05-11 05:12:14 PM

Zeppelininthesky: HighOnCraic: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.

I love how Malkin keeps putting the word racist in quotes, as though the word itself is somehow dubious.

Because she really thinks that Liberals are the real racists.


That's assuming "racism" exists!
 
2013-05-11 05:14:57 PM
So far, the organization has defended its methodology, which determined that low-skilled immigrants have less education and lower IQs and will earn less money and need more benefits than average Americans.


Republicans are now against a poorly educated permanent lower class, huh? They really do care about this country and its people!


The IQ thing, though, yeeesh. You could study human brains for your entire life and be the most respected human to ever live, but "lower IQs" would still sink your career faster than uhh... something that sinks fast... Fat people?
 
2013-05-11 05:16:01 PM

Magorn: coco ebert: As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?
IMHO that's a bigger scandal here:
Aming other things, Richwine posited that the different IQ scores among the races was genetically based. Since there is no genetic basis for race (two Kalahari Bush men from neighboring villages have greater genetic variation than say, an Irishman has from a Pacific Islander). How in the fark did that slip past the thesis defense panel?  That is, at best, sloppy scholarship, at worst the same line of eugenic thinking that was very popular among some mid-century German politicians
Apparently Harvard PhD's don't really mean what they used to


I got accused of playing "the racism card" when a concerned member of the previous discussion on Mr. Richwine tried to make the case that even the grandchildren of (specifically Hispanic) immigrants would be dumb because they'd inherit their ancestors' "low-IQ" genes.  Also for noting that this was essentially the official, stated position of the Third Reich.
 
2013-05-11 05:17:59 PM

IronOcelot: "Hispandering..."


Word of the year!
 
2013-05-11 05:19:23 PM
So much drop in this snoogle I don't know where to fnee.
 
2013-05-11 05:19:46 PM

RexTalionis: This article didn't explicitly state that he was a contributor to whtie spremacist websites, but here's an article that did:

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=a rt icle&id=1170:heritage-foundation-study-co-author-can-also-be-found-on- white-supremacist-website&catid=29:us&Itemid=14&lang=en



That website is awful. Truly, utterly awful.
 
2013-05-11 05:20:22 PM

Magorn: coco ebert: As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?
IMHO that's a bigger scandal here:
Aming other things, Richwine posited that the different IQ scores among the races was genetically based. Since there is no genetic basis for race (two Kalahari Bush men from neighboring villages have greater genetic variation than say, an Irishman has from a Pacific Islander). How in the fark did that slip past the thesis defense panel?  That is, at best, sloppy scholarship, at worst the same line of eugenic thinking that was very popular among some mid-century German politicians
Apparently Harvard PhD's don't really mean what they used to


Disgusting. I looked up his field and it appears to be public policy. I'm fairly positive that discipline still maintains some sort of rigorous social scientific standard. Perhaps he went full racist after he left.
 
2013-05-11 05:20:36 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.


from your link: "Haley Barbour immediately proclaimed that the Heritage assessment of government costs incurred by amnestied illegal aliens was "not serious." "

she's attacking haley barbour for not being right (enough) on immigration? good god.
 
2013-05-11 05:21:04 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.


So we can expect him back in three days?
 
2013-05-11 05:21:27 PM

coco ebert: As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?


Simple...they didn't actually read the document.
 
2013-05-11 05:21:36 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-11 05:22:38 PM

coco ebert: As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?


i have asked that in every thread about this subject. so far, nada.

WTF indeed Harvard.
 
2013-05-11 05:25:02 PM

Stone Meadow: coco ebert: As a PhD student, I'm just wondering how the fark that guy's dissertation got past his committee. And at Harvard? WTH?

Simple...they didn't actually read the document.


This is... so not shocking. :)
 
2013-05-11 05:26:28 PM
meh, I got to the part where it said Republican ThinkTank and I knew it was BS.
 
2013-05-11 05:26:45 PM

Zeppelininthesky: HighOnCraic: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Jesus Christ.

I love how Malkin keeps putting the word racist in quotes, as though the word itself is somehow dubious.

Because she really thinks that Liberals are the real racists.


Which will probably the next topic of her bullshiat lying projecting opinion piece.
 
2013-05-11 05:28:26 PM

Frozboz: IronOcelot: "Hispandering..."

Word of the year!


It was relatively popular around the time of the 2012 RNC. Basically every time they had a token up there spouting about their racial credentials it was labeled as "Hispandering".
One of the exceedingly rare sightings of conservative humor that was actually humorous. Probably a liberal plant.
 
2013-05-11 05:29:15 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: "low-skilled immigrants have less education and lower IQs and will earn less money and need more benefits than average Americans."
that seems like a obvious and unambiguously factual statement.
also applies to people that are already citizens.
why are people butt devastated over this?

The part where he suggested that racial IQ variants are genetically based and innate? 
The part where he thinks that "Hispanic" is a race?  The part where he thinks "white" is one?  Or that either have any scientific basis to their classifications?
 
2013-05-11 05:31:40 PM

Magorn: GF named my left testicle thundercles: "low-skilled immigrants have less education and lower IQs and will earn less money and need more benefits than average Americans."
that seems like a obvious and unambiguously factual statement.
also applies to people that are already citizens.
why are people butt devastated over this?
The part where he suggested that racial IQ variants are genetically based and innate? 
The part where he thinks that "Hispanic" is a race?  The part where he thinks "white" is one?  Or that either have any scientific basis to their classifications?


Look, you obviously haven't realized yet, white conservatives can't be racist, they're far too advanced compared to the mud races. This makes you the real racist for pointing out racism where none exists.
 
2013-05-11 05:32:41 PM

coco ebert: Disgusting. I looked up his field and it appears to be public policy. I'm fairly positive that discipline still maintains some sort of rigorous social scientific standard. Perhaps he went full racist after he left.


his advisers seem to be walking back an endorsement of his dissertation.
 
2013-05-11 05:33:41 PM

coco ebert: Disgusting. I looked up his field and it appears to be public policy. I'm fairly positive that discipline still maintains some sort of rigorous social scientific standard. Perhaps he went full racist after he left.


Nope.  Excerpts from his thesis were presented in a prior thread.  They looked like Free Republic with better grammar and spelling.
 
2013-05-11 05:37:30 PM
So how long till he gets a job at Fox News?
 
2013-05-11 05:39:42 PM
I'll be he did Nazi that reaction coming...
 
2013-05-11 05:40:17 PM

coco ebert: Perhaps he went full racist after he left.


Hard to get more "full racist" than trying to establish a correlation between the nebulous and abstract concept of "race" - which is not a very useful biological construct anyway - and the equally nebulous and abstract concept of "intelligence" - which I would argue does have biological components, but only insofar as it stems from a biological agent that actively interacts with and is affected by the environment. That he pulled that stunt in his doctoral dissertation is staggering. That his committee granted him the degree after that is beyond shameful.
 
2013-05-11 05:44:55 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers:
This is about 95% of why Mexicans hate Cubans.
Go ahead, Republicans. Put your hopes on Rubio as your "brown guy" to get the "Hispanic" vote.


Mexicans sound racist.

Sometimes I wonder why people seem to hate those most similar to them, but not similar enough to be the same. Muslim sects, Christian sects, Asians, Europeans, Africans, and so on. They may in general hate the other people, but damn do they hate those that are just slightly different from them.
Yes, I realize the historical part, that they would have had wars against such people, but even in times of peace it persists.
 
2013-05-11 05:45:36 PM

God-is-a-Taco: So far, the organization has defended its methodology, which determined that low-skilled immigrants have less education and lower IQs and will earn less money and need more benefits than average Americans.


Republicans are now against a poorly educated permanent lower class, huh? They really do care about this country and its people!


The IQ thing, though, yeeesh. You could study human brains for your entire life and be the most respected human to ever live, but "lower IQs" would still sink your career faster than uhh... something that sinks fast... Fat people?


Fat is less dense than water. Therefore, fat people sink more slowly than thin people.
 
2013-05-11 05:45:55 PM

Kome: coco ebert: Perhaps he went full racist after he left.

Hard to get more "full racist" than trying to establish a correlation between the nebulous and abstract concept of "race" - which is not a very useful biological construct anyway - and the equally nebulous and abstract concept of "intelligence" - which I would argue does have biological components, but only insofar as it stems from a biological agent that actively interacts with and is affected by the environment. That he pulled that stunt in his doctoral dissertation is staggering. That his committee granted him the degree after that is beyond shameful.


I didn't know that the dissertation was also characterized by such "findings". Unbelievable. His committee should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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