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(Washington Times)   U.S. Department of Education drops the terms "mother" and "father" from its student aid forms. To be replaced by "MILF" and "Baby Daddy" most likely   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 118
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2013-05-11 07:55:27 AM
Stupid, subby? Changing to generic labels on a form?
 
2013-05-11 08:42:58 AM
What about "Sugar Daddy?"

/We're important too!
 
2013-05-11 08:52:07 AM
I'm ok with this.
 
2013-05-11 09:10:41 AM

LasersHurt: Stupid, subby? Changing to generic labels on a form?


Be fair, now. Subby was perusing The Washington Times when he/she submitted this, which in itself demonstrates a fairly high level of stupidity. But to his or her credit, the headline contains no glaring errors or typos, and even the "its" is used correctly. Which is to say that there may still be some hope for subby. We need to be encouraging, here, not harsh.
 
2013-05-11 09:31:47 AM
Which parent will successfully earn the prize that is the Parent 1 slot? What shame will come to the runner-up and occupant of the Parent 2 line?
 
2013-05-11 09:37:49 AM
How is this stupid? A federal agency is recognizing non-traditional marriages as valid. If anything, I see this helping movements such as gay marriage.
 
2013-05-11 09:38:00 AM
www.turnoffyourtv.com
 
2013-05-11 09:39:22 AM

Krieghund: I'm ok with this.


lh3.ggpht.com
/me too
 
2013-05-11 09:40:47 AM
BTW, my last comment was the first thing I thought of based solely on the headline; DNRTA.  I have no problem with non-traditional marriages being recognized by a federal institution.
 
2013-05-11 09:43:00 AM
Makes sense to. Several of my students have single parent households, a few have same-sex couples as parents, and others are with grandparents, not to mention step-parents or foster families for many. Assuming the heterosexual, nuclear family structure is a stagnant view for educators or those involved in education policy.
 
2013-05-11 09:43:43 AM

aevorea: If anything, I see this helping movements such as gay marriage.


Um, that is exactly what the poutrage is about.
 
2013-05-11 09:44:26 AM
wait. when did it switch to XML?
 
2013-05-11 09:44:46 AM

zabdorff: BTW, my last comment was the first thing I thought of based solely on the headline; DNRTA.  I have no problem with non-traditional marriages being recognized by a federal institution.


But isn't that hostile to traditional marriage?  You know, because the two sides are 'support traditional marriage' and 'support gay marriage'. You can't do both.
 
2013-05-11 09:44:53 AM
Hopefully no one will get shot for teaching anyone's kids this is okay.
 
2013-05-11 09:44:59 AM
If you think about it this is probably going to "hurt" more kids in a non-traditional family than it helps.  If you have two income earners in that household it wont matter if its mom and dad or mom and mom's special friend, both are going to count against you getting some of that sweet, sweet student loan money.
 
2013-05-11 09:45:49 AM
I feel bad for you, Subby. The Washington Times is something normal people avoid. It's really only read by cult members.
 
2013-05-11 09:46:17 AM
Yeah, I loved that 'no help for you because your father has a lot of money' policy. Unfortunately there is no 'Yeah but he's a selfish dickhole and I'd still like to have a life someday' clause.
 
2013-05-11 09:46:29 AM
It's probably going to cost billions of dollars to re-print all of those forms.

/creatin' jerbz
 
2013-05-11 09:46:44 AM

Fizpez: If you think about it this is probably going to "hurt" more kids in a non-traditional family than it helps.  If you have two income earners in that household it wont matter if its mom and dad or mom and mom's special friend, both are going to count against you getting some of that sweet, sweet student loan money.


undo this gay marriage immediately! give me back my pell grant!
 
2013-05-11 09:47:43 AM

MNguy: It's probably going to cost billions of dollars to re-print all of those forms.

/creatin' jerbz


xml just update the dtd.
 
2013-05-11 09:49:32 AM
What about "Gold-digger" and "Walking Wallet"? :)
 
2013-05-11 09:50:03 AM

Fizpez: If you think about it this is probably going to "hurt" more kids in a non-traditional family than it helps.  If you have two income earners in that household it wont matter if its mom and dad or mom and mom's special friend, both are going to count against you getting some of that sweet, sweet student loan money.


Only in states where gay marriage is legal, otherwise they will just put one parent on the form.
 
2013-05-11 09:51:03 AM

A simple change is made to a form because it wasn't flexible enough.


shut

DOWN

EVERYTHING
 
2013-05-11 09:51:23 AM
Should women even be signing forms?
 
2013-05-11 09:52:53 AM
Heh. This is more about Ed catching more 'household' income in their calculation for grants and federal aid than it is recognizing non-traditional households, that's just a side benefit.

/Bitter with the system
//Have to submit verification that this year, I am still an over 24 independent student
///Because apparently the fact that I was a 39 year old independent student last year wasn't enough
 
2013-05-11 09:53:56 AM
...but they're still requiring some kind of parents' information even though some students really just don't have parents. I have to assume this is intentional since this is such an obvious problem, do they (whoever made the regulation, or law) really want 18-year-olds to have no chance at college if they recently had a family disaster?
 
2013-05-11 09:54:41 AM

Abox: Should women even be signing forms?


gotta make those sammich's SOMEHOW.
 
2013-05-11 09:55:00 AM
as if most high school graduates can read.
 
2013-05-11 09:55:27 AM
Many Islands, Low Fares
 
2013-05-11 09:58:09 AM

utah dude: Abox: Should women even be signing forms?

gotta make those sammich's SOMEHOW.


Just go iron my shirt batch!
 
2013-05-11 09:59:08 AM
Yo subby! Ever been to a school open house or PTA meeting? The last one I attended, there were zero, I mean ZERO MILFs in that bunch!
 
2013-05-11 10:00:02 AM
I'd think that even the readership of the Moonie Times would look at this and say "So?  Why am I supposed to be offended by this?"

But if you're reading the Moonie Times, you're probably inclined to think that anything coming out of the Fartbongo Administration is meant to establish Sharia law and force your kids to gay marry a blah person and then put you in front of a death panel.
 
2013-05-11 10:00:11 AM

utah dude: Fizpez: If you think about it this is probably going to "hurt" more kids in a non-traditional family than it helps.  If you have two income earners in that household it wont matter if its mom and dad or mom and mom's special friend, both are going to count against you getting some of that sweet, sweet student loan money.

undo this gay marriage immediately! give me back my pell grant!


Yes .. a liberal changes that cuts government spending. Will be an interesting call for conservatives.
 
2013-05-11 10:00:26 AM

FARK rebel soldier: ...but they're still requiring some kind of parents' information even though some students really just don't have parents. I have to assume this is intentional since this is such an obvious problem, do they (whoever made the regulation, or law) really want 18-year-olds to have no chance at college if they recently had a family disaster?


If the parents are dead, they don't have any income to count against the kid, do they?

And there's always the emancipated minor option for parents who are complete dickholes.

But yeah, as far as this form change?  Should have happened years ago.  Stupid tag is for subby.
 
2013-05-11 10:06:18 AM
Damn, i was SO hoping to interpret this as a whisper of things to come WRT marriage equality at the Federal level, but year, "better idea of household income" is probably at least as valid as a reason for the change.
 
2013-05-11 10:07:16 AM
It's simpler just to have the space marked "Parent(s)."

But we've got to have the outrage over "ZOMG! TEH GHEYS!!1!"
 
2013-05-11 10:07:39 AM
How about "Enabler" and "Passive-Agressive Guilt Machine"?
 
2013-05-11 10:15:03 AM

jamspoon: Yes .. a liberal changes that cuts government spending. Will be an interesting call for conservatives.


i swear i'm bi-political at this point - i'm attracted to both parties... please tell me there's a word/party/aaffiliation for that?!?!
 
2013-05-11 10:15:07 AM
content9.flixster.com
Where's the fetus gonna gestate? You gonna keep it in the box?
 
2013-05-11 10:18:05 AM
Progress is not always denoted by the deconstruction of that which you are trying to help progress.  Sometimes you're just breaking sh*t to accommodate those whom you have failed and have no motivations to aspire to anything more.
 
2013-05-11 10:19:41 AM

utah dude: jamspoon: Yes .. a liberal changes that cuts government spending. Will be an interesting call for conservatives.

i swear i'm bi-political at this point - i'm attracted to both parties... please tell me there's a word/party/aaffiliation for that?!?!


I feel this pain.
Is there a "real person" party?

/someday...
 
2013-05-11 10:20:59 AM

utah dude: jamspoon: Yes .. a liberal changes that cuts government spending. Will be an interesting call for conservatives.

i swear i'm bi-political at this point - i'm attracted to both parties... please tell me there's a word/party/aaffiliation for that?!?!


What in the Hell do you find attractive about the Republican party?  Their hatred of women, gays, and minorities?  Their Christian dominionist agenda?  Their tendency to explode debt and drive us into recession whenever they take control, and them do everything in their power to hamper economic recovery when they are out of power?
 
2013-05-11 10:24:09 AM

bunner: Progress is not always denoted by the deconstruction of that which you are trying to help progress.  Sometimes you're just breaking sh*t to accommodate those whom you have failed and have no motivations to aspire to anything more.


That philosophy degree is really paying off for you, I have no idea what the hell you just said. And I'm a lawyer. Hat tip!
 
2013-05-11 10:24:34 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: What in the Hell do you find attractive about the Republican party?  Their hatred of women, gays, and minorities?  Their Christian dominionist agenda?  Their tendency to explode debt and drive us into recession whenever they take control, and them do everything in their power to hamper economic recovery when they are out of power?


no those are the things i HATE about the republican party, dawg. i LIKE THE 'REDUCED GOVERNMENT SPENDING'... agenda they half-push.
 
2013-05-11 10:28:14 AM

LasersHurt: Stupid, subby? Changing to generic labels on a form?


The government buys/prints forms in mass (even if the GPO does it, it costs money and gets charged by the GPO to the government agency getting the printing done). Wonder how many old forms are being trashed and what the cost of the new ones are? Yeah, stupid.
 
2013-05-11 10:29:25 AM

utah dude: LouDobbsAwaaaay: What in the Hell do you find attractive about the Republican party?  Their hatred of women, gays, and minorities?  Their Christian dominionist agenda?  Their tendency to explode debt and drive us into recession whenever they take control, and them do everything in their power to hamper economic recovery when they are out of power?

no those are the things i HATE about the republican party, dawg. i LIKE THE 'REDUCED GOVERNMENT SPENDING'... agenda they half-push.


Yeah, that's unfortunately something to which they only pay lip service. They just want the government spending spent on things OTHER THAN human services and mass transit, basically
 
2013-05-11 10:32:43 AM
Our school district has been parent/guardian for as long as we've been here.
 
2013-05-11 10:34:36 AM
Feel the butthurt flow through you, young fundie.
 
2013-05-11 10:37:51 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: LasersHurt: Stupid, subby? Changing to generic labels on a form?

The government buys/prints forms in mass (even if the GPO does it, it costs money and gets charged by the GPO to the government agency getting the printing done). Wonder how many old forms are being trashed and what the cost of the new ones are? Yeah, stupid.


How do you know they are not just buying the new ones going forward? How do YOU know how many are being "trashed"?
 
2013-05-11 10:38:05 AM
The Moonie TImes?  No.
 
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