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2013-05-10 09:04:00 PM
What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.

It's not like you're hurting his feelings.
 
2013-05-10 10:40:45 PM
72 of them.
 
2013-05-10 10:53:02 PM

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?


No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.
 
2013-05-10 11:57:30 PM
Just like John Adams on a list of US Presidents
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-05-11 01:22:09 AM
Where's the WBC?
 
2013-05-11 01:33:55 AM
There is a lesson to be learned here.

DON'T die as a virgin.
There are terrorists up there just waiting to have their way with you.
 
2013-05-11 01:38:12 AM
Most of the rejection was from fear of troublemakers, a reasonable assumption.
 
2013-05-11 02:06:25 AM
Headline should have been "... 72 virginians (at least)".

I'm not angry... I'm just disappointed.

hehehehe
 
2013-05-11 02:06:29 AM

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


And what would that accomplish? He's dead, all you're doing is burying some rotting meat.  We're the civil ones here.
 
2013-05-11 03:02:39 AM

snuff3r: And what would that accomplish?


You don't have to be nice to be civilized. The dude blew up an 8 year old. He's garbage. Let's toss him away like the garbage he is.

You want a burial a decent person would get? Die a decent person.
 
2013-05-11 04:24:48 AM

doglover: snuff3r: And what would that accomplish?

You don't have to be nice to be civilized. The dude blew up an 8 year old. He's garbage. Let's toss him away like the garbage he is.

You want a burial a decent person would get? Die a decent person.


I understand the sentiment, i have an 8 year old myself, just seems redundant to be upset about his burial. He will be remembered a monster and that will never change.  Personally, he should been cremated or simply buried at sea. I can't imagine much grief being assuaged through wasting your time worrying about the craphead's body. Healing and moving on is complicated enough.

But meh, everyone deals with tragedy in their own way ;p
 
2013-05-11 04:39:14 AM

snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial


It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.
 
2013-05-11 06:09:10 AM
Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved
 
2013-05-11 06:10:16 AM

snuff3r: doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.

And what would that accomplish? He's dead, all you're doing is burying some rotting meat.  We're the civil ones here.


Same reason why his brother has a good chance of getting the death penalty. Humans crave revenge, no matter how irrational.
 
2013-05-11 06:14:17 AM

hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved


Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.
 
2013-05-11 06:17:00 AM
Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.
 
2013-05-11 06:18:55 AM
I hope they dumped a couple of truckloads of concrete on the grave.

/where was the Sandy Hook shooter buried? No one seemed to make a big deal about it
//How about Aurora?
 
2013-05-11 06:21:56 AM
I am not a person who believes that people are entitled to very much just for existing, but for the body to be properly disposed of does make my list. Not so much because of anything about the deceased, but because it's a "what you are in the dark" moment for ourselves and our society. There are not many cases where a person can want something but never know if they got it, and I think it's good for the public mental health to routinely carry one of those out.

That said, it's worth noting that his parents wanted him to be buried in Russia, and he seems to have expressed no particular wishes himself, so he should have been buried there. The person who found him a plot doubtless meant well, but she went against the wishes of his family.
 
2013-05-11 06:22:16 AM
Slappy McLongstockings:

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.

The ones that get aborted?
 
2013-05-11 06:22:24 AM
What was the point of all the fuss about keeping his burial spot secret, then disclosing the location?

Even calling it "an Islamic cemetery in central Virginia" (as I heard the network newsbots read it) is really narrowing it down. How many Islamic cemeteries could there possibly be in that part of the country? It's like saying he's buried near a seafood restaurant in the Oklahoma panhandle.

Whitey Bulger is disappoint that nobody in Massachusetts knows of any discreet places to dump a body.
 
2013-05-11 06:25:04 AM

EvilEgg: //How about Aurora?


He's still alive.
 
2013-05-11 06:26:50 AM
People that have done much worse than he did are also buried in various cemeteries around the country. Lets dig them all up! May we take them to Hawaii and throw them all in a volcano or something.

News Flash: He's dead. He's no longer the "Boston Marathon bomber". He's a sac of rotting skin. Worm food, if you will. Let it go and move on to the next step with the one that can actually be punished.
 
2013-05-11 06:26:56 AM
Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.
 
2013-05-11 06:29:40 AM

Gulper Eel: Even calling it "an Islamic cemetery in central Virginia" (as I heard the network newsbots read it) is really narrowing it down.


NPR went further: they said it's in Doswell. I think they even gave the name of the cemetery, though I don't remember it off the top of my head.
 
2013-05-11 06:29:56 AM

EvilEgg: //How about Aurora?


And where did they bury the survivors?
 
2013-05-11 06:30:16 AM
...aaaaand ninja'd.
 
2013-05-11 06:41:02 AM
They should have brought Tsarnaev's body to Boston and hung it from the lamp post, so he would have seen what it felt like
 
2013-05-11 06:41:21 AM
Times like these require remedial reading about the golden rule and its reverse the dumbass rule.
If you don't want him to be buried then that says you would rather have your own corpse dumped along the side of the road when you die for the buzzards to eat.
 
2013-05-11 06:44:08 AM
Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.
 
2013-05-11 06:44:32 AM

robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.



Says the Internet tough guy in brownbackistan.

Go commit your own crimes.
 
2013-05-11 06:47:28 AM

Gulper Eel: What was the point of all the fuss about keeping his burial spot secret, then disclosing the location?


This. That was the dumbest possible move. The people who are most likely to suffer the ramifications are the families of everyone else buried in that plot, because any of the brilliant minds that come to do shiat to Tsarnaev's grave aren't likely to stop there.

It would be nice to see us Americans take the high road and just leave him in the ground to return to nature, unremarked, but I may as well be wishing for unicorns and rainbows.
 
2013-05-11 06:49:43 AM

rev. dave: Times like these require remedial reading about the golden rule



The main problem here is wherever his ass is planted it WILL be vandalized repeatedly.

So, it's unfair to put him near places where people will be bringing innocent corpses to bury because they'll have to step over the vandals' handiwork to get to their legit ceremony.

Hence we should have just lost the body, like with Bin Laden.
 
2013-05-11 06:51:42 AM

chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.


Is that a relative of the "no true scotsman" argument?
 
2013-05-11 06:53:33 AM
FTA: "There were also four unmarked plots, one of which presumably contained Tsarnaev's body."

I'm guessing his is the one next to Arch Stanton's. At least that's what Bill Carson told me.
 
2013-05-11 06:54:56 AM

thisone: chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.

Is that a relative of the "no true scotsman" argument?


nvm found the caveat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman#Examples
 
2013-05-11 06:56:09 AM
Burial at sea should become a de facto policy of disposing of terrorist bodies.
 (After a proper legal review ....)
This eliminates the cemetery plot becoming a future shrine for other would be followers.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

I hear that.
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-11 06:56:43 AM
+1 subby. The perfect headline.
 
2013-05-11 06:56:59 AM

thisone: chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.

Is that a relative of the "no true scotsman" argument?


Not a true one.
 
2013-05-11 06:57:06 AM
So he really is in hell.
 
2013-05-11 06:57:58 AM

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


Wrong. Are you scared of a dead body? Do you think he cares if you piss on his corpse?

Or are you going to behave like a scared child?
 
2013-05-11 06:58:04 AM

chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery?


Because his body sat in a funeral home for more than a week, which was picketed every day by people who thought punishing a business for doing it's job and disrupting other people's funerals and moments of grief was far less savage than blowing up an 8 year old and was therefore okay, until someone who ran a Muslim cemetery read about it and stepped in.

It's just a guess, but I'm betting his Uncle spent that week trying to send the body to Russia and being told by various Russian officials to fark off and deal with it himself.
 
2013-05-11 06:59:22 AM

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.

It's not like you're hurting his feelings.


What I came to say, in the Boobies.

Done.
 
2013-05-11 07:02:18 AM

Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.


This. Not to mention, we would need to dig up *every* murderer and rapist and throw them in a landfill. Unless this is different...because TERROR? 2003 all over again.
 
2013-05-11 07:03:07 AM

doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.


That's not what you were originally advocating. Which is good as you are headed in the right direction.

The only thing that desecrating a corpse proves is that terrorist attacks will provoke a excessive response, which is exactly the point of terrorism.
 
2013-05-11 07:03:11 AM
WTF am I writing? Fark you autocorrect!

All done in the Boobies (some how converted to boobies).
 
2013-05-11 07:03:28 AM

kim jong-un: Do you think he cares if you piss on his corpse?


No, but the owners of the cemetery and the families of the people buried next to him will care when people all over come and vandalize the place over and over again.

Parisians aren't thrilled about what happened at Jim Morrison's grave, and people liked him. This guy's body will get much worse treatment, and who has to pay to clean that up? If you said the owners of the place he's stuck, you win the prize.

Hence just dispose of him completely. No muss, no fuss. Can't desecrate what isn't interred there.
 
2013-05-11 07:04:16 AM

Whole Wheat: WTF am I writing? Fark you autocorrect!

All done in the Boobies (some how converted to boobies).


Twice?

ALL DONE IN THE Boobies!!!!
 
2013-05-11 07:06:18 AM
Boobies.
 
2013-05-11 07:07:05 AM
I give up.
 
2013-05-11 07:09:33 AM
Whole Wheat I am laughing so hard right now.
 
2013-05-11 07:11:31 AM

doglover: Hence just dispose of him completely. No muss, no fuss. Can't desecrate what isn't interred there.


How about people just not be immature, vengeful assholes? What he did was terrible, but other people certainly wouldn't be showing how they are more civilized, or even compassionate, if they go raiding this cemetery to vandalize his and other graves in the process.
 
2013-05-11 07:11:47 AM
Lesson of the day:

"Boobies" = Boobies
 
2013-05-11 07:11:52 AM

Whole Wheat: Boobies.


Read the faqs, you boobiehead.
 
2013-05-11 07:12:26 AM

Mrtraveler01: Lesson of the day:

"Boobies" = Boobies


Damn, thought I could get around the filter.
 
2013-05-11 07:12:46 AM
Boobies.
Whole Wheat is done in them.
 
2013-05-11 07:13:40 AM
Dammitsomuch! My one day to sleep in and my wife gets ready like a pack of red-arsed monkeys at 6AM.

Then the Boobies filter TORTURES ME before I even have a cup of coffee. Tamerlan got off easy.
 
2013-05-11 07:13:56 AM
Boobies everywhere. Oh the Boobmanity!
 
2013-05-11 07:15:31 AM

UDel_Kitty: How about people just not be immature, vengeful assholes?


Good luck with that. It's been 1000's of years since history was recorded and in no single epoch has human nature been fundamentally different.
 
2013-05-11 07:16:00 AM
He paid for his crimes with his life (yes he still owes a lot more) but now he is Regardless of what he did while he was alive he still should be buried as a human.

If we don't bury terrorists properly what are we going to do with republicans????
 
2013-05-11 07:17:57 AM
Anybody who pickets a funeral or screams and shouts about this sort of thing really doesn't deserve a seat at the adults' table.
 
2013-05-11 07:22:40 AM

YoOjo: Boobies.
Whole Wheat is done in them.


Thank you. You just made my weekend.
 
2013-05-11 07:32:32 AM
Way to sweep the actions of Martha Mullen (you know, one of those rare Christians who actually try to emulate Christ), who did this because we are called to love our enemy, to instead interview a bunch of slack-jawed yokels for more petty vitriol and a few local pols for empty, pandering bluster.

Is the government ever supposed to have a say in where a corpse is buried (presuming that, like here, that "where" is legal cemetery)? How is that not a separation of church and state issue?

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a complete asshole, that doesn't mean we all need to be, too. It seems Antigone needs to be required reading.
 
2013-05-11 07:33:37 AM
It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."

i40.tinypic.com

Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.
 
2013-05-11 07:41:01 AM

Blasphemous Knave: Way to sweep the actions of Martha Mullen (you know, one of those rare Christians who actually try to emulate Christ), who did this because we are called to love our enemy, to instead interview a bunch of slack-jawed yokels for more petty vitriol and a few local pols for empty, pandering bluster.

Is the government ever supposed to have a say in where a corpse is buried (presuming that, like here, that "where" is legal cemetery)? How is that not a separation of church and state issue?

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a complete asshole, that doesn't mean we all need to be, too. It seems Antigone needs to be required reading.


No! We should drag his corpse around the capital, draw and quarter him and impale his head on a pike on the White House lawn.

That's the CIVILIZED thing to do.
 
2013-05-11 07:41:09 AM
The story of the lady that orchestrated the burial is here: Link

A true Christian.
 
2013-05-11 07:42:09 AM

Blasphemous Knave: Way to sweep the actions of Martha Mullen (you know, one of those rare Christians who actually try to emulate Christ), who did this because we are called to love our enemy, to instead interview a bunch of slack-jawed yokels for more petty vitriol and a few local pols for empty, pandering bluster.

Is the government ever supposed to have a say in where a corpse is buried (presuming that, like here, that "where" is legal cemetery)? How is that not a separation of church and state issue?

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a complete asshole, that doesn't mean we all need to be, too. It seems Antigone needs to be required reading.


"Slack Jawed Yokels"?  The BBC story on it says that the people most angry are the local Muslims and their imam who have to share a cemetery with him, and that's mainly because they had a notorious terrorist interred amongst their loved ones.  Not only do they not like the implications, they don't want to deal with the people who are going to be attracted to the grave.
 
2013-05-11 07:42:43 AM
Boobees.
 
2013-05-11 07:44:20 AM
Fark party to go piss on his grave?
 
2013-05-11 07:44:30 AM

Whole Wheat: The story of the lady that orchestrated the burial is here: Link

A true Christian.


Dammitsomuch this morning. Her story is here:
http://news.yahoo.com/va-woman-no-regrets-over-role-burial-064738508 .h tml
 
2013-05-11 07:46:11 AM

robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.


I am not eating that bacon. Six words I prayed I'd never say.
 
2013-05-11 07:46:22 AM

doglover: UDel_Kitty: How about people just not be immature, vengeful assholes?

Good luck with that. It's been 1000's of years since history was recorded and in no single epoch has human nature been fundamentally different.


Said, philosophically, the guy who openly suggested relgiously-motivated desecration of Tsarnaev's body like an hour ago. Give it a rest.

Those who talk of grace at any time should focus on this opportunity to exemplify it. No matter what else he was, Tamerlan was a person - he had a mother and a father, he lived in a town and went to a school not unlike our own, and somehow all of his experience led to him wanting to kill as many people as possible (probably due to some amount of mental illness). To attempt to deny his humanity in death is, I can't help but think, an attempt to escape the thought that he is more like each of us than he is different. People did this to people. We should dwell on that as we bury him, and wonder what we can do to prevent people from feeling so estranged from their fellow man - and once they do, what we can do to rescue them (and everyone) from their demons.
 
2013-05-11 07:48:23 AM

Kibbler: This. Not to mention, we would need to dig up *every* murderer and rapist and throw them in a landfill. Unless this is different...because TERROR? 2003 all over again.


There are many that would be happy to dig up all the Europeans that came to this land...pro bono
 
2013-05-11 07:49:39 AM
These are not true boobies
 
2013-05-11 07:49:59 AM
Who gives a shiat what happens to a CORPSE? I understand on some level the need for revenge and the tendency for people to want to dehumanize those who commit heinous crimes, but he's dead, he has ceased to be, he has no idea what is happening anymore, bury him somewhere and be done with it.

An unmarked grave is probably a good idea if he'll be anywhere near other gravesites to avoid incidental damage to surrounding graves by vandals (which is another issue in itself - he's dead, desecrating a grave is pretty pointless).

/The only grave desecration I might support would be a non-stop gay sex orgy on the grave of Fred Phelps, whenever that old coont bites it - still ultimately pointless, but you gotta admit it would be pretty damn funny.

//also Whole Wheat's epic filter pwn made my morning :-)
 
2013-05-11 07:52:08 AM

Somebody Else: These are not true boobies


(regarding Whole Wheat's trouble posting):
 WTF am I writing? Fark you autocorrect!

All done in the Boobies (some how converted to boobies).


Twice?

ALL DONE IN THE Boobies!!!!
 
2013-05-11 07:52:10 AM

snuff3r: doglover: snuff3r: And what would that accomplish?

You don't have to be nice to be civilized. The dude blew up an 8 year old. He's garbage. Let's toss him away like the garbage he is.

You want a burial a decent person would get? Die a decent person.

I understand the sentiment, i have an 8 year old myself, just seems redundant to be upset about his burial. He will be remembered a monster and that will never change.  Personally, he should been cremated or simply buried at sea. I can't imagine much grief being assuaged through wasting your time worrying about the craphead's body. Healing and moving on is complicated enough.

But meh, everyone deals with tragedy in their own way ;p


Lets have a fark party and piss on the grave after we all drink kegs of beer
 
2013-05-11 07:52:45 AM

Whole Wheat: Boobies.


You've been filterpwned!

/Needed that laugh, it was a long night!
 
2013-05-11 07:57:43 AM
Whole Wheat - seriously?  You have been here since '04 and didn't know about the filter?  THAT made my damn day good sir, thank you!
 
2013-05-11 08:00:32 AM
I live in Virginia. Should I be upset about this and go piss on his grave?  They could have buried Bin Laden in my backyard and I wouldn't have cared. Don't most religions even believe that once you die, your soul is no longer connected with the body?  That the body is an "empty shell"?
 
2013-05-11 08:02:33 AM
The administration has a vested interest in letting this guy go, so it wouldn't surprise me if nobody has seen him dead.  Sure there's a coroner's report but that could be fabricated easily and the last person to allegedly see him alive is Dzhokhar and he has a lot of incentive to tell the official side of the story.

Nice shell game with where he's actually buried.  It wouldn't surprise me if he's on a plane back to Chechnya with a "job well done" briefcase full of cash.
 
2013-05-11 08:03:08 AM

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-11 08:04:15 AM

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


Let it go, you will live longer.
 
2013-05-11 08:07:48 AM
My fellow massholes disappointed me on this - I won't say he should of been buried in the Granary Burying Ground, but they should of just found a spot and been done with it.  The people protesting the funeral home in Worcester for just doing their job are pretty pathetic.

Getting so upset about where someone turns into compost gives them more power then they deserve.  A quiet burial in some random western mass graveyard would of been fine.

Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

We are better than this Massholes
 
2013-05-11 08:09:29 AM
If you think that the type of people who would come to desecrate his grave would stop at one (whether Muslim or Christian) you are kidding yourself.
 
2013-05-11 08:10:14 AM
I'm sure he's giving a shiat...
 
2013-05-11 08:20:30 AM
Feel bad for the folks whose beloved grandma is now sharing a final resting place with Captain Terrortard Steroidpants. Sure they are not amused.
 
2013-05-11 08:27:55 AM
he's dead, stop giving him power.

Monitor the site
  1) those who come to desecrate: Arrest
  2) those who come to praise his deeds: Put on the "List"

I think we'll see more of #1
 
2013-05-11 08:28:22 AM

robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.


You can't eat pigs that have eaten a human being.


In the end, who cares? Lots of people who have committed awful atrocities are buried in some graveyard or other. Why the fuss now?Where's Tim Mcveigh? Or like someone said, the guy who shot up sandy Hook?If they're dead...who cares.

Once someone is dead they can't harm anyone.
 
2013-05-11 08:29:33 AM

Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.


oh_you.jpg
 
2013-05-11 08:34:04 AM

violentsalvation: 72 of them.


Damn you! :)
 
2013-05-11 08:36:03 AM
And that is my hometown.


Weird sh*t.
 
2013-05-11 08:36:12 AM

Slam Bradley: My fellow massholes disappointed me on this - I won't say he should of been buried in the Granary Burying Ground, but they should of just found a spot and been done with it.  The people protesting the funeral home in Worcester for just doing their job are pretty pathetic.

Getting so upset about where someone turns into compost gives them more power then they deserve.  A quiet burial in some random western mass graveyard would of been fine.

Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

We are better than this Massholes


Agree on the burial, but as to the feds, our local guys may not have had much choice, legally speaking.  And, they may not have even wanted to fight it; the feds have the trump card of the death penalty.  I'm opposed to it, but it's a pretty big hammer for getting someone to plead guilty...and possibly roll over on any terror-buddies remaining in his network (if any...I think they were probably basically a pair of knuckleheads, but I'm fine with the feds investigating the crap out of anyone they ever exchanged email with.)

Plus, the state can still step in if the feds drop the ball somehow on prosecution.
 
2013-05-11 08:39:35 AM
"But those actions, we're not to be judges of that," he said. "That's between him and God."

FTFA - sums up all we need to know about these peoples' mentality.
 
2013-05-11 08:41:30 AM

Loneman1: Whole Wheat - seriously?  You have been here since '04 and didn't know about the filter?  THAT made my damn day good sir, thank you!


Because I think there is no bigger attention whore than someone who types "Boobies" in the Boobies. Today is the first day I came across it, when I was legitimately referring to the Boobies.
 
2013-05-11 08:41:56 AM
s24.postimg.org
 
2013-05-11 08:47:19 AM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-05-11 08:48:47 AM

robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.


What was buried was the container.  The person is hopefully rotting in hell.. The burial site is about 1/2 hour away from here.. and I have no problems with that, only with those that won't let it go.... need the required quote now.. " He,s dead, Jim "...
 
xcv
2013-05-11 09:01:04 AM

octopied: robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.

You can't eat pigs that have eaten a human being.


In the end, who cares? Lots of people who have committed awful atrocities are buried in some graveyard or other. Why the fuss now?Where's Tim Mcveigh? Or like someone said, the guy who shot up sandy Hook?If they're dead...who cares.

Once someone is dead they can't harm anyone.


McVeigh was cremated IIRC.

I think it's normal for people from a Christian background to be anxious about the bomber's burial site becoming a shrine for Islamists and an inspiring rallying point for other jihdaists in America, but I'm pretty sure that venerating grave-sites is explicitly forbidden by the Wahhabi ideology and fundamentalist Muslims aren't going to start making pilgrimages to Virginia any time soon.
 
2013-05-11 09:03:20 AM
While those consumed with passion and hatred, or the very young, made a big deal out of his burial place, I sorta think no matter where he's buried that in six months or so no one will care. Far worse people throughout history have had graves that attracted followers or haters for a short time, but even after ten short years most people have moved on and the gravesite is as ignored as all the rest.
 
2013-05-11 09:04:08 AM

o5iiawah: The administration has a vested interest in letting this guy go, so it wouldn't surprise me if nobody has seen him dead.  Sure there's a coroner's report but that could be fabricated easily and the last person to allegedly see him alive is Dzhokhar and he has a lot of incentive to tell the official side of the story.

Nice shell game with where he's actually buried.  It wouldn't surprise me if he's on a plane back to Chechnya with a "job well done" briefcase full of cash.


What the high-pitched fark with a question mark are you on about?
 
2013-05-11 09:05:21 AM

OlderGuy: robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.

What was buried was the container.  The person is hopefully rotting in hell.. The burial site is about 1/2 hour away from here.. and I have no problems with that, only with those that won't let it go.... need the required quote now.. " He,s dead, Jim "...


Noble, considering you actually live near it and get to comment.

Myself, I thgink most fear passing and being forgotten. His grave will be unmarked, not become a shrine, (the good locals will not allow that I'm sure, no snark intended) his family will not even visit. Humanity has washed their hands of you.

Bye now.
 
2013-05-11 09:07:39 AM
Were we a society which did not fear his body, which did not feel the want to desecrate his corpse or burial in some final act of violence we wish we could act out on the living, we would be a society with fewer incidents to cause such grief and turmoil.
 
2013-05-11 09:12:29 AM
 They should have embalmed him and displayed him at King's Dominion theme park. They could have used him as a dart game or on a water tank drop.
  I trust my neighbors just down I95 will do the right thing: Disinter him and hang him in effigy.
 
2013-05-11 09:15:05 AM
FFS, people, the corpse was buried according to the wishes of his family!  They claimed it according to MA law, which does NOT allow the coroner to withhold a corpse for desecration.   What in Hell makes you all assume that "we, the People" had any claim to it or say in what to do with it?
 
2013-05-11 09:16:46 AM

TommyymmoT: There is a lesson to be learned here.

DON'T die as a virgin.
There are terrorists up there just waiting to have their way with you.


Solid advice.
 
2013-05-11 09:19:07 AM
Someone will dig his ass up and perform a proper disposal.
And someone else will violate his wife.

Then justice will be served.
 
2013-05-11 09:24:38 AM

hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved


Isn't there a place in TN where they put bodies in a wooded area to rot to teach forensics? That could work
 
2013-05-11 09:28:53 AM
Mix them in with the cat litter, let Fluffy tend to them respectfully when taking a shiat
 
2013-05-11 09:34:52 AM
Hope someone threw some pork in his grave with him.
 
2013-05-11 09:38:09 AM
Came for the Virginians, stayed for Whole Wheat's filter pwnage.

Leaving satisfied. ^_^

\ Boobies.
 
2013-05-11 09:47:51 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."



Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.


Or right by the exit on the Tilt-A-Whirl.

BLARRRRPPP
 
2013-05-11 09:50:52 AM

doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.


That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.
 
2013-05-11 09:55:33 AM

dave2198: doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.

That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.


The name of the cemetery is already online; it is a small place with less than 2 dozen grave sites. The local town government is saying they're trying to find any laws that were broken so they can force them to remove the body. I'll be amazed if someone doesn't vandalize the place within 12 months.
 
2013-05-11 09:56:03 AM

dave2198: doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.

That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.


Not sure about the effectiveness of unmarked graves.  There will be four in this cemetery, so maybe all of them will be vandalized.

Perhaps a decoy grave would be wiser.  Put his name on it and leave it empty.
 
2013-05-11 10:02:16 AM

SomeoneDumb: While those consumed with passion and hatred, or the very young, made a big deal out of his burial place, I sorta think no matter where he's buried that in six months or so no one will care. Far worse people throughout history have had graves that attracted followers or haters for a short time, but even after ten short years most people have moved on and the gravesite is as ignored as all the rest.


except that Wahabism has a "it's ok to break the rules if it is done in the name of Allah and to further the cause"  see 911 hijackers shaving off their beards,  going to peeler bars,  etc.
 
2013-05-11 10:03:27 AM

Jacobin: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Isn't there a place in TN where they put bodies in a wooded area to rot to teach forensics? That could work


Yes, there is.

LINK
 
2013-05-11 10:08:22 AM

Carth: dave2198: doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.

That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.

The name of the cemetery is already online; it is a small place with less than 2 dozen grave sites. The local town government is saying they're trying to find any laws that were broken so they can force them to remove the body. I'll be amazed if someone doesn't vandalize the place within 12 months.


And? People will get over it. People always get over it. There are people who are buried who have committed far worse atrocities, and they don't need security on the grave site. You put up with the vandals for a couple months (years?), then it goes away.
 
2013-05-11 10:08:51 AM

Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.


One might argue the stupid. Completely overlooking the many that devote themselves to helping others in the field of medicine, education, research, volunteers who help the homeless and the masses who somehow get from cradle to grave without causing others undue misery in between and you've got something.
 
2013-05-11 10:10:54 AM

Millennium: I am not a person who believes that people are entitled to very much just for existing, but for the body to be properly disposed of does make my list.


So do I...but that doesn't imply a burial plot in the ground to me (not saying it does to you, either). There are 310,000,000+ living persons in America now, with 4,000,000+ new ones born every year (that's 11,000+ EVERY DAY). More to the point, there are nearly 7,000 deaths every day in America. To bury them all adds about 2 acres of cemetery space daily, or more than a square mile a year.

To me that's ridiculous. I think we should be a little more efficient and environmentally conscious. To me that means the dead who are not used for medical research should be cremated, and if the ashes are not claimed by the family, disposed of in the nearest land fill. Done.
 
2013-05-11 10:11:49 AM

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.

It's not like you're hurting his feelings.


This.  I can understand not doing it in Massachusetts- but why do people in Virginia care?  The man is dead- he can't bomb them anymore.  Get over it.
 
2013-05-11 10:12:11 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."

[i40.tinypic.com image 850x552]

Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.


My guess would be that it's behind that row of trees.
 
2013-05-11 10:13:33 AM

nathanjr: FTA: "There were also four unmarked plots, one of which presumably contained Tsarnaev's body."

I'm guessing his is the one next to Arch Stanton's. At least that's what Bill Carson told me.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Have a name?  A number?  Don't die yet, I'll get you water. You can die later.
 
2013-05-11 10:13:57 AM

KrispyKritter: Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.

One might argue the stupid. Completely overlooking the many that devote themselves to helping others in the field of medicine, education, research, volunteers who help the homeless and the masses who somehow get from cradle to grave without causing others undue misery in between and you've got something.


Note that only CEOs are people in Slappy's world.
 
2013-05-11 10:14:46 AM
 
2013-05-11 10:14:54 AM
farm2.staticflickr.com
Whole Wheat Boobies? (nsfw image)
 
2013-05-11 10:15:18 AM
Oops, I meant to write that at this point, you can't do anything else to the man, the only people you are hurting are his family by not letting them bury the body.  Why should they suffer any more than a family of a victim did?  They will always carry that stigma forever.  Don't give them grief about burying a rotting corpse.
 
2013-05-11 10:16:28 AM

Slam Bradley: Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.


Just because he is facing Federal charges first does not mean the state could not come after him afterward. But let's face it, barring some huge cooperation deal with the Feds that reveals a giant Chechen terrorist network, this kid is headed for the gurney and another unmarked grave. Trying the dead was given up after James exhumed and tried Cromwell wasn't it?
 
2013-05-11 10:19:21 AM
The only thing Doswell is known for is Kings Dominion. News reports from the cemetery show the roller coasters in the background. Don't worry guys, we've got this. Road trip fellow Virginians to dig him up and throw his body into a pig pen? Don't worry about it being an "unmarked grave". The various news reports had reporters standing right in front of his grave so it will be easy to find by studying the video. We just have to wait until the deputy stops parking there. Give it a few months.
 
2013-05-11 10:20:29 AM

Kibbler: +1 subby. The perfect headline.


Thank you.  *bows*

Oh, and  Whole Wheat?

i759.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-11 10:22:37 AM
 
2013-05-11 10:23:45 AM

rev. dave: Times like these require remedial reading about the golden rule and its reverse the dumbass rule.
If you don't want him to be buried then that says you would rather have your own corpse dumped along the side of the road when you die for the buzzards to eat.


Actually, I would be cool with knowing my corpse gets passed around like some kind of slow moving game of hot potato.

/Probably not the best person to ask
 
2013-05-11 10:23:48 AM
My only problem with this is that they should have kept their goddamn mouths shut about it.  WTF is wrong with people that they can't, for the sake of good order, just NOT FARKING SAY ANYTHING?
 
2013-05-11 10:24:00 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Not sure about the effectiveness of unmarked graves. There will be four in this cemetery, so maybe all of them will be vandalized.


It's the one next to the grave marked Arch Stanton!

/Why is everyone having such a hard time typing "first post"?
 
2013-05-11 10:24:13 AM
Wow, people are assholes. He's never been more than a suspect. Never had a trial. Never actually convicted of anything. And even if he was - his body shouldn't be buried? Seriously? It's not like someone gave him a shrine and a parade, just the simple custom of burying the dead. Everyone needs to get over themselves on this one.
 
2013-05-11 10:26:32 AM
Eternity? A couple of weeks maybe.
 
2013-05-11 10:29:40 AM

OlderGuy: robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.

What was buried was the container.  The person is hopefully rotting in hell.. The burial site is about 1/2 hour away from here.. and I have no problems with that, only with those that won't let it go.... need the required quote now.. " He,s dead, Jim "...


They buried this moron 4 miles from my house.  Been nothing but news crews hanging around trying to get quotes from locals.  I'm sure they will grab a few choice ones because my neighbors (all two of them within five miles) are pretty upset about it.

It doesn't bother me.  Cemeteries aren't for the dead, they are for the living.  This guy's family and friends who didn't have anything to do with the bombing somehow have to resolve his terrible final act with the person he was.  Keeping him above ground for no reason other than spite just punishes them simply for being related to a monster.

He's dead.  You can't punish him any more than he already has been.
 
2013-05-11 10:30:13 AM
i3.ytimg.com

Mmmm... freshly baked whole wheat boobies...
 
2013-05-11 10:37:47 AM

DesktopHippie: Mmmm... freshly baked whole wheat boobies...


STAHP!!!!

I've already been biatchslapped by the filter, now I'm a meme.
 
2013-05-11 10:59:52 AM

Whole Wheat: DesktopHippie: Mmmm... freshly baked whole wheat boobies...

STAHP!!!!

I've already been biatchslapped by the filter, now I'm a meme.


There, there.

i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-11 11:06:17 AM

CheatCommando: Slam Bradley: Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

Just because he is facing Federal charges first does not mean the state could not come after him afterward. But let's face it, barring some huge cooperation deal with the Feds that reveals a giant Chechen terrorist network, this kid is headed for the gurney and another unmarked grave. Trying the dead was given up after James exhumed and tried Cromwell wasn't it?


I hear what you and PunGent are saying, I just wished they'd of made some amount of stink about it before handing him over.  And not because we don't have a death penalty here either.
 
2013-05-11 11:08:49 AM

xcv: octopied: robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.

You can't eat pigs that have eaten a human being.


In the end, who cares? Lots of people who have committed awful atrocities are buried in some graveyard or other. Why the fuss now?Where's Tim Mcveigh? Or like someone said, the guy who shot up sandy Hook?If they're dead...who cares.

Once someone is dead they can't harm anyone.

McVeigh was cremated IIRC.

I think it's normal for people from a Christian background to be anxious about the bomber's burial site becoming a shrine for Islamists and an inspiring rallying point for other jihdaists in America, but I'm pretty sure that venerating grave-sites is explicitly forbidden by the Wahhabi ideology and fundamentalist Muslims aren't going to start making pilgrimages to Virginia any time soon.



Do what?
 
2013-05-11 11:09:36 AM
Millennium:

That said, it's worth noting that his parents wanted him to be buried in Russia, and he seems to have expressed no particular wishes himself, so he should have been buried there. The person who found him a plot doubtless meant well, but she went against the wishes of his family.

Did the parents offer to buy the plot in Russia and ship the body over?
If not, then too bad
They can save up and dig up the body later and bury it over there when they can afford to
 
2013-05-11 11:13:47 AM
One day, when whole wheat boobies is synonymous with filter pwnage, you can say "I was there".
 
2013-05-11 11:15:48 AM

Walker: The only thing Doswell is known for is Kings Dominion. News reports from the cemetery show the roller coasters in the background. Don't worry guys, we've got this. Road trip fellow Virginians to dig him up and throw his body into a pig pen? Don't worry about it being an "unmarked grave". The various news reports had reporters standing right in front of his grave so it will be easy to find by studying the video. We just have to wait until the deputy stops parking there. Give it a few months.


You won't get anywhere near it.  It's a small plot of land in the middle of what counts as "relatively populated" around here.  There are about 15 houses nearby.

For the 3,000 people in Caroline county, there are 34 police officers and an additional 17 state police officers assigned to the county.  They don't have much to do.
 
2013-05-11 11:19:47 AM

EvilEgg: I hope they dumped a couple of truckloads of concrete on the grave.

/where was the Sandy Hook shooter buried? No one seemed to make a big deal about it
//How about Aurora?


The Aurora shooter is still alive
 
2013-05-11 11:22:16 AM
Should've tossed him in the ocean. He doesn't deserve a grave on U.S. soil.
 
2013-05-11 11:37:36 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."

[i40.tinypic.com image 850x552]

Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.


If you look at the aerial, the cemetery is off to the left and well behind that high tension pole, actually.  But truth be told, I agree with the upthread idea of burial at sea.  Since you have people who either want to worship there or defecate or otherwise desecrate there, having an actual spot to do so, even if it is 527 miles from the bombing sites, is not a good idea.  Which is very sad, really, more for the latter group's existence than the former's; I don't get the existence of the latter group at all.  But it's just how I'm wired, I guess.
 
2013-05-11 11:39:40 AM
Whomever told the media about his burial site is the ultimate troll.
 
2013-05-11 11:48:42 AM
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2013-05-11 11:59:34 AM

Clemkadidlefark: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 646x244]

/obligatory


Make sure this one is right up front:
3.bp.blogspot.com

/Are nuns and priests still supposed to abstain in the afterlife? If so, Heaven sucks
 
2013-05-11 12:22:49 PM
Someone who hated the US government and killed people from Boston and China is buried in Virginia.  Hero, right?  Oh, wait, he's Muslin?  Outrage!
 
2013-05-11 12:28:01 PM

nuke666: Millennium:

That said, it's worth noting that his parents wanted him to be buried in Russia, and he seems to have expressed no particular wishes himself, so he should have been buried there. The person who found him a plot doubtless meant well, but she went against the wishes of his family.

Did the parents offer to buy the plot in Russia and ship the body over?
If not, then too bad
They can save up and dig up the body later and bury it over there when they can afford to


So a minute ago, we were going to stick it to 'em by not letting him be buried here... and now we're going to stick it to 'em by making him be buried here.

o.O
 
2013-05-11 12:32:40 PM

Walker: The only thing Doswell is known for is Kings Dominion. News reports from the cemetery show the roller coasters in the background. Don't worry guys, we've got this. Road trip fellow Virginians to dig him up and throw his body into a pig pen? Don't worry about it being an "unmarked grave". The various news reports had reporters standing right in front of his grave so it will be easy to find by studying the video. We just have to wait until the deputy stops parking there. Give it a few months.



I live about half an hour from the place, and I couldn't be bothered to piss on him or hate him.  If you're spending this much time and effort thinking about him, then you're doing it wrong.

I'm not sure whether you're a Hatfield or a McCoy, but we who live here really don't want you stopping by central Virginia to visit his grave, REGARDLESS of your intentions.  You are no more encouraged to visit him than the conspiracy theorists or wanna-be jihadis would be.

/buncha savages
 
2013-05-11 12:41:03 PM
I read where his gravesite is visible from a roller coaster at King's Dominion. I suggest the riders render an appropriate salute (aka "The FlyingTamerlan") as they crest the top in sight of his grave.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-11 12:43:03 PM

doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.


You say that, yet you are vehemently opposed in your posts. Which is it?
 
2013-05-11 12:43:24 PM
I'll help buy the guy a nice headstone if I get to choose it.

unitedsiteservices.com
 
2013-05-11 12:51:51 PM

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


He's dead and out of the picture. He has no more contracts. What we do with him now says nothing about him and everything about the rest of us.
 
2013-05-11 12:56:02 PM
i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.
 
2013-05-11 01:23:39 PM
I think they should have just left his rotting corpse in the jail cell with his brother, and tell the younger brother that he can be put to death once he eats his brother's remains.
 
2013-05-11 01:44:18 PM

Nick Nostril: TommyymmoT: There is a lesson to be learned here.

DON'T die as a virgin.
There are terrorists up there just waiting to have their way with you.

Solid advice.


Never trust a virgin male
// very obscure
 
2013-05-11 01:54:36 PM
DNRTFA but I just knew Obama would find a way to bury this guy at Arlington National Cemetery...

Monster!

/ducks for cover
 
2013-05-11 02:07:05 PM

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


Virginia has more class than you it seems. Don't you have a large soda to ban you statist coward?
 
2013-05-11 02:07:31 PM
He's not the first to kill a kid.  He's not the first premeditated killer.  He's not the first with a political agenda.

/ but there sure are a whole lot of indignant assholes out there these days
 
2013-05-11 02:08:47 PM
THIS THREAD IS BOOBIES!
 
2013-05-11 02:17:32 PM

Slam Bradley: My fellow massholes disappointed me on this - I won't say he should of been buried in the Granary Burying Ground, but they should of just found a spot and been done with it.  The people protesting the funeral home in Worcester for just doing their job are pretty pathetic.

Getting so upset about where someone turns into compost gives them more power then they deserve.  A quiet burial in some random western mass graveyard would of been fine.

Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

We are better than this Massholes


No you're not. Maybe you individually but Boston shut down from a aqua teen light bright once. You're cowards.
 
2013-05-11 02:28:19 PM

boozehat: i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.


Whether the sentiment is silly or not the idea to desecrate his body isn't about punishment, but deterrence. The theory is people who are alive now might care what happens to their body and if they see that committing a horrible crime has implications for their dead body or family it might influence their actions (particularly if a religion belief is very important and requires their body to be disposed of a certain way).

I don't think any rational person is going to say "hey I don't want to become a terrorist because they won't let me be buried where my family can visit" but if where your body ends up is important to you I can see why people would project that value onto other people.
 
2013-05-11 02:38:24 PM

Carth: boozehat: i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.

Whether the sentiment is silly or not the idea to desecrate his body isn't about punishment, but deterrence. The theory is people who are alive now might care what happens to their body and if they see that committing a horrible crime has implications for their dead body or family it might influence their actions (particularly if a religion belief is very important and requires their body to be disposed of a certain way).

I don't think any rational person is going to say "hey I don't want to become a terrorist because they won't let me be buried where my family can visit" but if where your body ends up is important to you I can see why people would project that value onto other people.


:|   I, ......     What you just wrote....., how in the......

good god, my brain hurts.  you just hurt my brain.     I will pray for you tonight, and I'm an athiest.
 
2013-05-11 03:07:34 PM
And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?
 
2013-05-11 03:13:20 PM

bratface: And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?


Yes, that part of the world that hates us would never stoop to desecrating bodies.

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2013-05-11 04:37:17 PM
Yeah, I just have to say,... I love this headline. +72, subby.
 
2013-05-11 04:41:14 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: bratface: And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?

Yes, that part of the world that hates us would never stoop to desecrating bodies.

dead_contractors_dragged_around_in_iraq.jpg
nick_berg_head.jpg


Oh, so we're gong to start behaving like Iraqis?

Or are we going to behave like Americans?
 
2013-05-11 05:36:30 PM

dave2198: Prank Call of Cthulhu: bratface: And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?

Yes, that part of the world that hates us would never stoop to desecrating bodies.

dead_contractors_dragged_around_in_iraq.jpg
nick_berg_head.jpg

Oh, so we're gong to start behaving like Iraqis?

Or are we going to behave like Americans?


Americans... like Jersey Shore Americans?  Or bible thumping Americans?  Or the Amish Americans?  Or the Mexican Americans?  Or the black ones (you know...)?  Or the house wives of Orange County ones?
 
2013-05-11 05:45:00 PM
I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.
 
2013-05-11 06:12:11 PM

oldtaku: I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.


who is "they"?
 
2013-05-11 06:23:15 PM

boozehat: oldtaku: I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.

who is "they"?


The people of the town who will have to keep dealing with this guy's body and all the surrounding butthurt for years to come. If they're lucky it'll just slowly calm down, otherwise they can look forward to vandalism and pilgrimages.
 
2013-05-11 07:05:40 PM
Good thing he's dead, then. That would truly be cruel and unusual punishment.
 
2013-05-11 07:07:23 PM

oldtaku: boozehat: oldtaku: I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.

who is "they"?

The people of the town who will have to keep dealing with this guy's body and all the surrounding butthurt for years to come. If they're lucky it'll just slowly calm down, otherwise they can look forward to vandalism and pilgrimages.


So let me get your logic straight.  In your scenario:

A family brings a corpse to a funeral home and buys a plot at a cemetary.
The "people of the town" somehow intercept the body.
The "people of the down" then go out and charter a boat.
They need the boat to take them 300 miles off the coast with a corpse on board.
They dump the body into the ocean and then return.
A 600 mile run in a private charter with a dead guy on board.....
All funded by some random peole in Virginia.

You're wondering why this didn't happen?
 
2013-05-11 07:09:14 PM
i hate when i type town and it comes out as down.
 
2013-05-11 07:23:01 PM
boozehat:
So let me get your logic straight.  In your scenario:

There's also the first 'they' there. These guys: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/08/182267402/police-chief - we-are-not-barbarians-bury-bombing-suspect  They're the original 'they' who were desperate to get rid of it and should have dumped the body in the sea.  Finding someone willing to do that in Boston should not be hard. Now there's the second 'they', the town who find the body's mysteriously appeared there, who are having to deal with it.

Sorry, I assumed people had been following along, should have been clearer.
 
2013-05-11 07:42:22 PM

oldtaku: boozehat:
So let me get your logic straight.  In your scenario:

There's also the first 'they' there. These guys: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/08/182267402/police-chief - we-are-not-barbarians-bury-bombing-suspect  They're the original 'they' who were desperate to get rid of it and should have dumped the body in the sea.  Finding someone willing to do that in Boston should not be hard. Now there's the second 'they', the town who find the body's mysteriously appeared there, who are having to deal with it.

Sorry, I assumed people had been following along, should have been clearer.


So the people of Boston are responsible for finding and paying for a burrial?
 
2013-05-11 08:18:19 PM

boozehat: Carth: boozehat: i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.

Whether the sentiment is silly or not the idea to desecrate his body isn't about punishment, but deterrence. The theory is people who are alive now might care what happens to their body and if they see that committing a horrible crime has implications for their dead body or family it might influence their actions (particularly if a religion belief is very important and requires their body to be disposed of a certain way).

I don't think any rational person is going to say "hey I don't want to become a terrorist because they won't let me be buried where my family can visit" but if where your body ends up is important to you I can see why people would project that value onto other people.

:|   I, ......     What you just wrote....., how in the......

good god, my brain hurts.  you just hurt my brain.     I will pray for you tonight, and I'm an athiest.


You not understanding what he said isn't because he wrote something stupid. It is because yoare.
 
2013-05-11 08:56:16 PM

boozehat: oldtaku:

Sorry, I assumed people had been following along, should have been clearer.

So the people of Boston are responsible for finding and paying for a burrial?


So you think gay unborn jewish muslims should rape puppies to finance bad american beer and cyclists who don't pay attention to traffic laws but run down pitbulls?
 
2013-05-11 09:58:36 PM
Officials in the county where the remains of suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev have been buried say they were stunned to learn of the burial and they are looking into whether the law was followed in the process. nothing because it's none of their concern.

Look, I think religious rights are ridiculous but I also know that they are held so dear. I respect the woman who got the burial plot because of her religious (and Christian, mind you) convictions, and I appreciate the reverence that is shown for the dead. County officials should give even less of a shiat than I do; this is not a government issue.
 
2013-05-11 10:12:38 PM
I didn't go through all of the comments, so please excuse me if it's already been mentioned.  Why couldn't he just be buried at sea the way Osama was.  If it's good enough for Osama, it should be good enough for any other Muslim.
 
2013-05-11 10:31:23 PM

ogle5431: I didn't go through all of the comments, so please excuse me if it's already been mentioned.  Why couldn't he just be buried at sea the way Osama was.  If it's good enough for Osama, it should be good enough for any other Muslim.


Because he wasn't a ward of the US government.  His body was turned over to the family.  Even if they wanted to bury him at sea, they'd still have to find someone to do it, just like they'd have to find someone to sell them a grave.
 
2013-05-12 12:41:54 AM
Superstition mixed with your run-of-the-mill "not in my back yard" mentality.  Oh lowest common denominator, I love you!
 
2013-05-12 01:40:39 AM

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.


Can't we scatter his ashes at a landfill or something?
 
2013-05-12 01:55:52 AM
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Agrees.

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2013-05-12 08:52:47 PM
Let him be buried and forgotten. I understand why some people would be bothered but what is alternative, leave his body on the streets? Are people that barbaric?
 
2013-05-12 09:19:18 PM

Shahab: Let him be buried and forgotten. I understand why some people would be bothered but what is alternative, leave his body on the streets? Are people that barbaric?


Apparently so.  I drive past that cemetery on the way to work (I had no idea it was even there) so I'm going to grab some photos on Monday.  There were too many news crews and police on Friday to get close.
 
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