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2013-05-11 12:22:49 PM  
Someone who hated the US government and killed people from Boston and China is buried in Virginia.  Hero, right?  Oh, wait, he's Muslin?  Outrage!
 
2013-05-11 12:28:01 PM  

nuke666: Millennium:

That said, it's worth noting that his parents wanted him to be buried in Russia, and he seems to have expressed no particular wishes himself, so he should have been buried there. The person who found him a plot doubtless meant well, but she went against the wishes of his family.

Did the parents offer to buy the plot in Russia and ship the body over?
If not, then too bad
They can save up and dig up the body later and bury it over there when they can afford to


So a minute ago, we were going to stick it to 'em by not letting him be buried here... and now we're going to stick it to 'em by making him be buried here.

o.O
 
2013-05-11 12:32:40 PM  

Walker: The only thing Doswell is known for is Kings Dominion. News reports from the cemetery show the roller coasters in the background. Don't worry guys, we've got this. Road trip fellow Virginians to dig him up and throw his body into a pig pen? Don't worry about it being an "unmarked grave". The various news reports had reporters standing right in front of his grave so it will be easy to find by studying the video. We just have to wait until the deputy stops parking there. Give it a few months.



I live about half an hour from the place, and I couldn't be bothered to piss on him or hate him.  If you're spending this much time and effort thinking about him, then you're doing it wrong.

I'm not sure whether you're a Hatfield or a McCoy, but we who live here really don't want you stopping by central Virginia to visit his grave, REGARDLESS of your intentions.  You are no more encouraged to visit him than the conspiracy theorists or wanna-be jihadis would be.

/buncha savages
 
2013-05-11 12:41:03 PM  
I read where his gravesite is visible from a roller coaster at King's Dominion. I suggest the riders render an appropriate salute (aka "The FlyingTamerlan") as they crest the top in sight of his grave.

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2013-05-11 12:43:03 PM  

doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.


You say that, yet you are vehemently opposed in your posts. Which is it?
 
2013-05-11 12:43:24 PM  
I'll help buy the guy a nice headstone if I get to choose it.

unitedsiteservices.com
 
2013-05-11 12:51:51 PM  

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


He's dead and out of the picture. He has no more contracts. What we do with him now says nothing about him and everything about the rest of us.
 
2013-05-11 12:56:02 PM  
i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.
 
2013-05-11 01:23:39 PM  
I think they should have just left his rotting corpse in the jail cell with his brother, and tell the younger brother that he can be put to death once he eats his brother's remains.
 
2013-05-11 01:44:18 PM  

Nick Nostril: TommyymmoT: There is a lesson to be learned here.

DON'T die as a virgin.
There are terrorists up there just waiting to have their way with you.

Solid advice.


Never trust a virgin male
// very obscure
 
2013-05-11 01:54:36 PM  
DNRTFA but I just knew Obama would find a way to bury this guy at Arlington National Cemetery...

Monster!

/ducks for cover
 
2013-05-11 02:07:05 PM  

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


Virginia has more class than you it seems. Don't you have a large soda to ban you statist coward?
 
2013-05-11 02:07:31 PM  
He's not the first to kill a kid.  He's not the first premeditated killer.  He's not the first with a political agenda.

/ but there sure are a whole lot of indignant assholes out there these days
 
2013-05-11 02:08:47 PM  
THIS THREAD IS BOOBIES!
 
2013-05-11 02:17:32 PM  

Slam Bradley: My fellow massholes disappointed me on this - I won't say he should of been buried in the Granary Burying Ground, but they should of just found a spot and been done with it.  The people protesting the funeral home in Worcester for just doing their job are pretty pathetic.

Getting so upset about where someone turns into compost gives them more power then they deserve.  A quiet burial in some random western mass graveyard would of been fine.

Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

We are better than this Massholes


No you're not. Maybe you individually but Boston shut down from a aqua teen light bright once. You're cowards.
 
2013-05-11 02:28:19 PM  

boozehat: i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.


Whether the sentiment is silly or not the idea to desecrate his body isn't about punishment, but deterrence. The theory is people who are alive now might care what happens to their body and if they see that committing a horrible crime has implications for their dead body or family it might influence their actions (particularly if a religion belief is very important and requires their body to be disposed of a certain way).

I don't think any rational person is going to say "hey I don't want to become a terrorist because they won't let me be buried where my family can visit" but if where your body ends up is important to you I can see why people would project that value onto other people.
 
2013-05-11 02:38:24 PM  

Carth: boozehat: i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.

Whether the sentiment is silly or not the idea to desecrate his body isn't about punishment, but deterrence. The theory is people who are alive now might care what happens to their body and if they see that committing a horrible crime has implications for their dead body or family it might influence their actions (particularly if a religion belief is very important and requires their body to be disposed of a certain way).

I don't think any rational person is going to say "hey I don't want to become a terrorist because they won't let me be buried where my family can visit" but if where your body ends up is important to you I can see why people would project that value onto other people.


:|   I, ......     What you just wrote....., how in the......

good god, my brain hurts.  you just hurt my brain.     I will pray for you tonight, and I'm an athiest.
 
2013-05-11 03:07:34 PM  
And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?
 
2013-05-11 03:13:20 PM  

bratface: And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?


Yes, that part of the world that hates us would never stoop to desecrating bodies.

dead_contractors_dragged_around_in_iraq.jpg
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2013-05-11 04:37:17 PM  
Yeah, I just have to say,... I love this headline. +72, subby.
 
2013-05-11 04:41:14 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: bratface: And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?

Yes, that part of the world that hates us would never stoop to desecrating bodies.

dead_contractors_dragged_around_in_iraq.jpg
nick_berg_head.jpg


Oh, so we're gong to start behaving like Iraqis?

Or are we going to behave like Americans?
 
2013-05-11 05:36:30 PM  

dave2198: Prank Call of Cthulhu: bratface: And we wonder why the majority of the world hates americans?

Yes, that part of the world that hates us would never stoop to desecrating bodies.

dead_contractors_dragged_around_in_iraq.jpg
nick_berg_head.jpg

Oh, so we're gong to start behaving like Iraqis?

Or are we going to behave like Americans?


Americans... like Jersey Shore Americans?  Or bible thumping Americans?  Or the Amish Americans?  Or the Mexican Americans?  Or the black ones (you know...)?  Or the house wives of Orange County ones?
 
2013-05-11 05:45:00 PM  
I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.
 
2013-05-11 06:12:11 PM  

oldtaku: I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.


who is "they"?
 
2013-05-11 06:23:15 PM  

boozehat: oldtaku: I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.

who is "they"?


The people of the town who will have to keep dealing with this guy's body and all the surrounding butthurt for years to come. If they're lucky it'll just slowly calm down, otherwise they can look forward to vandalism and pilgrimages.
 
2013-05-11 07:05:40 PM  
Good thing he's dead, then. That would truly be cruel and unusual punishment.
 
2013-05-11 07:07:23 PM  

oldtaku: boozehat: oldtaku: I also have to wonder why they didn't just dump his carcass 300 miles out to sea. Problem solved. Now they've just got an infected boil.

who is "they"?

The people of the town who will have to keep dealing with this guy's body and all the surrounding butthurt for years to come. If they're lucky it'll just slowly calm down, otherwise they can look forward to vandalism and pilgrimages.


So let me get your logic straight.  In your scenario:

A family brings a corpse to a funeral home and buys a plot at a cemetary.
The "people of the town" somehow intercept the body.
The "people of the down" then go out and charter a boat.
They need the boat to take them 300 miles off the coast with a corpse on board.
They dump the body into the ocean and then return.
A 600 mile run in a private charter with a dead guy on board.....
All funded by some random peole in Virginia.

You're wondering why this didn't happen?
 
2013-05-11 07:09:14 PM  
i hate when i type town and it comes out as down.
 
2013-05-11 07:23:01 PM  
boozehat:
So let me get your logic straight.  In your scenario:

There's also the first 'they' there. These guys: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/08/182267402/police-chief - we-are-not-barbarians-bury-bombing-suspect  They're the original 'they' who were desperate to get rid of it and should have dumped the body in the sea.  Finding someone willing to do that in Boston should not be hard. Now there's the second 'they', the town who find the body's mysteriously appeared there, who are having to deal with it.

Sorry, I assumed people had been following along, should have been clearer.
 
2013-05-11 07:42:22 PM  

oldtaku: boozehat:
So let me get your logic straight.  In your scenario:

There's also the first 'they' there. These guys: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/08/182267402/police-chief - we-are-not-barbarians-bury-bombing-suspect  They're the original 'they' who were desperate to get rid of it and should have dumped the body in the sea.  Finding someone willing to do that in Boston should not be hard. Now there's the second 'they', the town who find the body's mysteriously appeared there, who are having to deal with it.

Sorry, I assumed people had been following along, should have been clearer.


So the people of Boston are responsible for finding and paying for a burrial?
 
2013-05-11 08:18:19 PM  

boozehat: Carth: boozehat: i'm just about the most passive-aggressive person i know, and i honestly don't know what the big deal is.

he was killed, end of story.  who the hell cares what happens to his body?  dragging him through the streets, where his body ends up, blah blah blah.... it really doesn't matter, does it?  If he's burried here or there or whatever, it's not like that changes anything.

why not ruin his credit score while you're bitaching about where to put his  body?  that will teach him!!!!

take away his high school diploma!!

revoke his drivers license!!!

make a fake yelp account in his name and post how  much he likes to eat at arbys!

Seriously, the debate over a rotting hunk of meat is stupid in my opinion.

Whether the sentiment is silly or not the idea to desecrate his body isn't about punishment, but deterrence. The theory is people who are alive now might care what happens to their body and if they see that committing a horrible crime has implications for their dead body or family it might influence their actions (particularly if a religion belief is very important and requires their body to be disposed of a certain way).

I don't think any rational person is going to say "hey I don't want to become a terrorist because they won't let me be buried where my family can visit" but if where your body ends up is important to you I can see why people would project that value onto other people.

:|   I, ......     What you just wrote....., how in the......

good god, my brain hurts.  you just hurt my brain.     I will pray for you tonight, and I'm an athiest.


You not understanding what he said isn't because he wrote something stupid. It is because yoare.
 
2013-05-11 08:56:16 PM  

boozehat: oldtaku:

Sorry, I assumed people had been following along, should have been clearer.

So the people of Boston are responsible for finding and paying for a burrial?


So you think gay unborn jewish muslims should rape puppies to finance bad american beer and cyclists who don't pay attention to traffic laws but run down pitbulls?
 
2013-05-11 09:58:36 PM  
Officials in the county where the remains of suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev have been buried say they were stunned to learn of the burial and they are looking into whether the law was followed in the process. nothing because it's none of their concern.

Look, I think religious rights are ridiculous but I also know that they are held so dear. I respect the woman who got the burial plot because of her religious (and Christian, mind you) convictions, and I appreciate the reverence that is shown for the dead. County officials should give even less of a shiat than I do; this is not a government issue.
 
2013-05-11 10:12:38 PM  
I didn't go through all of the comments, so please excuse me if it's already been mentioned.  Why couldn't he just be buried at sea the way Osama was.  If it's good enough for Osama, it should be good enough for any other Muslim.
 
2013-05-11 10:31:23 PM  

ogle5431: I didn't go through all of the comments, so please excuse me if it's already been mentioned.  Why couldn't he just be buried at sea the way Osama was.  If it's good enough for Osama, it should be good enough for any other Muslim.


Because he wasn't a ward of the US government.  His body was turned over to the family.  Even if they wanted to bury him at sea, they'd still have to find someone to do it, just like they'd have to find someone to sell them a grave.
 
2013-05-12 12:41:54 AM  
Superstition mixed with your run-of-the-mill "not in my back yard" mentality.  Oh lowest common denominator, I love you!
 
2013-05-12 01:40:39 AM  

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.


Can't we scatter his ashes at a landfill or something?
 
2013-05-12 01:55:52 AM  
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Agrees.

www.vancouversun.com
 
2013-05-12 08:52:47 PM  
Let him be buried and forgotten. I understand why some people would be bothered but what is alternative, leave his body on the streets? Are people that barbaric?
 
2013-05-12 09:19:18 PM  

Shahab: Let him be buried and forgotten. I understand why some people would be bothered but what is alternative, leave his body on the streets? Are people that barbaric?


Apparently so.  I drive past that cemetery on the way to work (I had no idea it was even there) so I'm going to grab some photos on Monday.  There were too many news crews and police on Friday to get close.
 
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